March 04, 2011 10:23 PM
New Rule: IOKIYAR
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Other than his tasteless joke about Ellen at the end of this, kudos to Bill Maher for reminding us of just how many Republicans like Newt Gingrich who's still pretending he wants to run for president are huge flaming hypocrites when it comes to having the audacity to tell Americans that they're still the party of "family values."
Right?
5 minutes of sexual humor is fine, but one crack about Ellen is tasteless?
Pull the plug out dear, pull the plug out.
I have to agree and I don't think Ellen would have been offended either. Maybe Bill can invite Ellen onto the show sometime.
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She probably laughed her ass off. Gay people aren't that super-sensitive about everything, just HATE speech (etc.).
OH. And, BINGO Mr. Maher.
far left loon >.<
...was tasteless. Not because it's Ellen, but because it was unrelated to the topic. Maher is correct in his assessment of IOKIYAR, but, as usual, he's a smug bastard who doesn't understand when he's gone too far--or how he got there.
when discussing Ensign's hush money to his mistress that his bag man, Deacon Doctor Coburn, has now pronounced Newt morally unfit to be President.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Thought you'd be more offended at the blacks can't canoe part.
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I should have whacked him for that one as well or for nothing offensive he said at all. Mark it up to me being a bit tired when I put this up last night.
Other than his tasteless joke about Ellen at the end of this,
As the great Mel Brooks once put it, "Oh, blow it out your ass, Howard."
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I'm not sure that is as offensive as the LL Bean schtick Gump mentions.
No mention of Larry Craig. That's disappointing.
not all martyrs see divinity
Well, technically Larry Craig is no longer a Senator. He "chose" not to run again after the scandal broke.
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But as it's still socially acceptable to make fun of transgendered people but no longer so to make fun of lesbians, by all means Heather, display your bias as proudly as Maher.
I guess it's okay to bring up the old "black people and water sports" stereotype too is it? And calling plain women "dogs" is okay as well? Let's see if I got this straight: according to Heather, it's okay to get really rude and personal about transgendered people, blacks and less attractive women but you'd better not say anything even slightly off color about lesbians.
Yeah, that makes sense. I'd suggest that it's you who have a double standard Heather, seeing as how it's only the two word lesbian joke that offends you. Bill Maher is a comedian and he makes a living from being a tasteless one. Either you find all of that stuff offensive or all of it funny or you're guilty of what Maher is accusing the Republicans of.
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Edward's mistress was a cheap shot as well, and no, I don't endorse that kind of talk, but I don't think the shot at Giuliani was a shot at transgendered people as much as it was a shot at the Republicans and Rudy in general for being huge hypocrites. As I said in my response to Gump, had I not been ready to hit the sack and just wanting to highlight him hitting the hypocrisy of the GOP cheaters and their double standards that he ranted on about, I'd have done a longer post on this. Given the response to it, I'm sorry I posted it at all.
..isn't that what blogging is all about?? And, Bill's focus on the media's failure to condemn the Repukes as much as the Dems is important - too bad others don't point it out more often.
The folks who are moaning are just exposing their own hypocrisy and their penchant for one-upsmanship.
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Rudy is indeed a hypocrite. It was the part about the Congressman who "judges women by the blackness of their penis", that I found off color, (pun unintended). Still, that wasn't the point of my comment. I'm not bitching about what Maher said because that's what Maher does, that's who he is. What I find startling is what you found offensive about it and what you apparently didn't. I suggest though if you are uncomfortable with anything other than sycophantic head nodding, that you may want to give up blogging. As a member of the LGBT community, (the flavor is unimportant), I point out the double standard when I see it. Pointing out John Aravosis' bigotry towards transgendered Americans was why I left Americablog after a long association, because he couldn't hear the truth, though I was just as mild in my rebuke as I'm being here. Transgendered people are people too but, like lesbians, they have no special dispensation from humor like Maher's. Personally I can take Maher or leave him. I like the fact that he's openly atheist and sometimes he is so very spot on but the man is a coward and sees more "terrorists" than all of the plastic heads at FOX "News" combined. Maybe I'm wrong about you. I don't spend a lot of time at Crooks&Liars and less time commenting here, though I've been around since it's inception. People who know me on FDL, here and at my old home at Americablog know me to be intellectually honest and very direct but I'm not a troll that comes along and criticizes for the sake of disruption. If I didn't think it was important, I wouldn't have wasted my time saying anything. I hope you can take it in the spirit it is offered.
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I'm cisgender, but I'm also queer and a person with disabilities. I hate when people think that they have a right to decide what should and shouldn't be offensive to folks in groups that they aren't a part of. That's usually a sign of unearned privilege. The "joke" about transgender women and their penises and the transgender = man in a dress line wasn't just tasteless nor was it just humor that's not to my liking. It's opportunism. It's othering people who are transgender in order to give the audience a reason to see him (Maher) as one of them.
We have not been scuffling in this waste-howling wildness for the right to be stupid.
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Bill is a slug
nice to see the double standard on the right called out though
thoroughly disgusted at Mike Fuckabee's bitching about poor Natalie Portman and her joy that she and her fiance are having a baby in a few months?
At least Natalie's a grown woman who isn't ruining her life by getting pregnant, and there's a good chance she will marry the father after the baby gets here. And if she doesn't, so what!
That's more than you can say for Bristol Palin (although personally I'm glad that B. Palin didn't go through with getting married...since I live in the conservative teen pregnancy capital of California, I have seen way too many teenage girls further compound their problems by marrying the father of the child just to satisfy the adults in their family and stop the pressure).
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Ellen joke? Didn't offend me. Didn't really make me laugh, but I didn't see it as tasteless or offensive. It was just a silly play on how Charlie Sheen and Ellen Degeneres are alike.
The trans jokes? Actually, didn't offend me, and I'm rather outspoken about how transgender people are the last remaining demographic liberals think it's okay to trash. I didn't actually hear anything anti-trans in the humor.
Crude sexual images invoked throughout? Oh, fuck me, who cares? How else are you going to make this subject funny?
But you know what did offend me? The line about how Edwards is a dog-catcher. The thrust of the joke was: Look at this woman. She's ugly. Ha ha.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
None of it offended me. Just sayin'.
(member of LGBT community here)
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Plenty of straight people here who "know a gay person" to be offended for you.
Always is.
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and his moral high horse re: Natalie Portman so I didn't watch the video (yet), so as another member of the GLBT community I don't know if it would offend me. But my Maternal Unit likes to watch Ellen's show everyday, so it will be interesting to find out when I get home from college Monday afternoon if Ellen doesn't maybe decide to play the clip of Maher's joke. From the sounds of it, she might replay the clip for a good chuckle. :)
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I laughed, but perhaps my sense of humour is unconventional (?).
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Annaleigh, it was one of Maher's throw-away lines I think. We all know which way Ellen swings, so I doubt that she'd be offended by it. Just a reference to Charlie Sheen and Ellen wanting: "To make people laugh....and pussy".
certainly nothing wrong with that joke.
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Bill really seems to resent being dragged by guests out of his "comfort zone", continually interupting guests to return to a subject that was covered but that HE introduced (yeah, I know, it's his show). I was a little disapponted that Gavin Newsome didn't just say the reason the roads in California suck is because there's no fucking money to fix them. Instead we got this academic treatise about real debt and road debt being the same thing yada yada as eyes glazed over.
Tracy Uhlman was practically mute, the writer was the epitome of the space cadet-liberal prof that the right thinks they all are. He basically said nothing the least bit interesting, or relevent, or even entertaining. Ezra Klein seemed struggling along with Gloria Steinman to get out a complete sentence uninterrupted by Maher.
For a man who professed "not to give a fuck" about Charlie Sheen, he seemed remarkedly obsessed by the subject.
Jesus H. Christ, Bill. I want a good discussion, not Chelsey Lately. Tastelessness I don't mind (after all, its Bill Maher), but your committing the cardnial sins lately, you're boring, cranky and decidedly not funny. On the bright side, we were spared the weekly rant on Islam.
Bill's getting to an age where his worry's about "hip" should center more on breaking one than being one.Given the low-hanging fruit in the talk biz, a little maturity and prep time could go a long way.
Maher is totally wrong. Gingrich's lack of values still matter to a great many people. It's good of liberals, even atheists like Maher, to note the hypocrisy. Republicans are not super humans immune to the morals of of human beings. It is damn stupid for Democrats to say the idiotic phrase itsokifyouareblablabla. We hold the moral high ground, we know it, we always have. Maher is an idiot, but this piece of crap idea in the blogospere needs to die like yesterday.
morals of of human beings.
No, but they should learn to keep their mouths shut and not sanctimoniously judge others when they can't keep it in their pants....and I don't think they should should have the audacity to run for the highest office in the land, either. I prefer not to have a skank as POTUS.
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I disagree. I never thought much of him till I saw religious.
Now he's a hero of mine.
There is no such thing as moral high ground. For any of us...
Gingrich;s comments matter because he is running for president and because he held such a high office and he feigned outrage about Clinton's extramarital affair at the same time he himself was having one. I don't think anyone views republicans as super humans just super liars, misinformers, and shills. Republicans do not hold a moral high ground. That is the most absurd statement of your opinion based tirade. How can it be moral to kick people off unemployment insurance when they have little hope to find a job and no longer any income? How can it be moral to get rid of welfare for families who struggle in order to provide ends meet? There are many poor people in this country because of republican economic policies that stretch the income disparity gap even further. It's incredulous to think just by writing republican know they hold the moral high ground when in fact they do no such thing. I can think of so many other things that are so telling of why republicans do not hold any such moral high ground over any one issue. You're writings are blasphemous to those people who have suffered because of republican policies and to deny this means you lack morals. Next time, you need to clarify your arguments a bit better instead of writing platititudes that are meaningless in reality and just cause you may think that Bill Maher is an idiot doesn't mean he is. I can say the same thing about you.
"There are many poor people in this country because of republican economic policies that stretch the income disparity gap even further." I'm pretty sure that democrat policies are worse.
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I'm not sure where he gathers his facts that trade liberalization will lift 540 million people out of poverty within a few years. I am in the process of reading a book written by Joe Stiglitz, I believe he was one of the heads of the World Bank, I'm sure you don't know what that is because you didn't personally say anything besides an opinion in your argument. Let's just think about what you said and I'll point to 2 examples of how you're wrong. The Great Depression was due in large part to the Hoover Administration's contractionary policies and the Federal Reserve's poor policy initiatives. Two economists of the 1920s, Waddill Catchings and William Trufant Foster, popularized a theory that influenced many policy makers, including Herbert Hoover, Henry A. Wallace, Paul Douglas, and Marriner Eccles. It held the economy produced more than it consumed, because the consumers did not have enough income. Thus the unequal distribution of wealth throughout the 1920s caused the Great Depression. Another Example is W. You don't even need to look further than Greenspan and Gramm. The two largest deregulators in any sort of power. The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act led to deregulation that, among other things, allowed for the creation of giant financial supermarkets that could own investment banks, commercial banks and insurance firms, something banned since the Great Depression. So just cause you write that democrats policies are more responsible and you don't provide shit for evidence makes you a supreme idiot and a troll.
but Bill nailed it. All of it.
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the former home of the braves....
but out in the world, America is not known for its' thick skin....
or its' precious little moral high ground....
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