Real Time New Rules Oct. 2, 2009
By Heather Saturday Oct 03, 2009 6:00am
Real Time's New Rules for Oct. 2, 2009.
Real Time's New Rules for Oct. 2, 2009.
Real Time's New Rules for Sept. 25, 2009.
Maher: And finally if America can't get off its back and get something done it must lose the bald eagle as our symbol and replace it with the You Tube video of the puppy that can't get up. As long as we're pathetic, we might as well act like it's cute.
Real Time's New Rules for Sept. 18, 2009.
Real Time's New Rules for Sept. 11, 2009. Bill wants everyone to get off the couch and get out there and protest. I hate to break this to him, but there is a movement out there by the left doing the same thing as the tea baggers. The media has just decided not to cover it and they don't have Fox's Griff Jenkins going along for the ride and Fox Noise promoting it night after night.
I do agree that more people taking to the streets would help. Maybe we can get Bill to agree to cover it so there's not a complete media blackout since he thinks it's so important. Perhaps he can have one of his "Real Time Real Reporters" ride along with the Reform Now bus.
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Maher: The Democrats just never learn. Americans don’t really care which side of an issue you’re on as long as you don’t act like p#&$ies. When Van Jones called the Republicans assholes, he was actually paying them a compliment. He was. He was talking about how they can get things done even when they’re the minority as opposed to the Democrats who can’t seem to get anything done even when they control both houses of Congress, the Presidency and Bruce Springsteen.
You know I love Obama’s civility, his desire to work with his enemies… he’s positively Christ-like. In college he was probably the guy at the dorm parties who made sure the stoners shared their pot with the jocks.
But we don’t need that guy now. We need an asshole. Mr. President, there are some people who are never going to like you. That’s why they voted for the old guy and Carrie’s mom.
You’re not going to win them over. Stand up for the 70% of Americans who aren’t crazy.
And speaking of that 70%, when are we going to actually show up in all this? You know tomorrow Glenn Beck’s army of zombie retirees are descending on Washington. It’s the million moron march. Although they won’t get a million of them of course because many will be confused and drive to Washington State.
But they will make news because people who take to the streets always do. They’re at town hall meetings screaming at the Congressmen. We’re on the couch screaming at the T.V. You know especially in this age of Twitters and blogs and Snuggies, it’s a statement just to leave the house.
But leave the house we must because this is our last best shot for a long time to get the sort of serious health care reform that would make the United States the envy of several African nations.
Bill Moyers visited the set of Real Time, and had an honest discussion about why we're going to be lucky to see any real reform on health care with all of the money being thrown at both the Republican and Democratic parties from the insurance industries, big pharma, and Wall Street. Bill is exactly right here, and this needs to be looked at as a moral issue, and not what's in the interest of corporate profits or a good business model.
Thom Hartmann talks to Jeremy Scahill about his run in with Chuck Todd on Real Time with Bill Maher this past Friday.
It appears Chuck Todd didn't take too kindly to Jeremy Scahill's drubbing he received on Real Time the other night. From Glenn Greenwald:
According to Scahill (via email), Todd approached him after the Maher show and the following occurred:
Right as we walked off stage, he said to me "that was a cheap shot." I said "what are you talking about?" and he said "you know it." I then said that I monitor msm coverage very closely and asked him what was not true that I said on the show. He then replied: "that's not the point. You sullied my reputation on TV."
Media stars are so unaccustomed to being held accountable for the impact of their behavior -- especially when they're on television -- that they consider it a grievous assault on their entitlement when it happens.
Check out the entire post where Glenn's got much more on some similar events going on lately besides just his own dust up with Chuck Todd. Joe Klein got into it with Aimai of NoMoreMisterNiceBlog who happens to be I.F. Stone's granddaughter. Glenn and Marcy Wheeler had an ongoing feud with Marc Ambinder of The Atlantic. And now we've got Scahill and Todd's back and forth on Real Time.
Glenn summed all of this up much better than I could ever hope to:
Todd's condescending responses illustrate the same point as the above episodes with Klein and Ambinder: in the eyes of Beltway mavens, those who warned about and worked against the radicalism and lawbreaking of the Bush administration are the fringe, crazed, out-of-touch radicals. While Todd was fiddling around with pretty colored maps and fun polling games, Scahill was courageously investigating one of the most corrupt, dangerous and lethal private corporations in the world, yet it's Todd who understands and must solemnly explain the hardened realities of politics to Scahill, the confused and silly Leftist.
There's little question that when people look back at this period in American history, it will be difficult to comprehend what happened in the Bush era -- and especially how we blithely started a devastating war over complete fiction, while simultaneously instituting a criminal torture regime and breaking whatever laws we wanted. But far more remarkable still will be the fact that, other than a handful of low-level sacrificial lambs, those responsible -- both in politics and the establishment media -- not only suffered no consequences, but continued to wield exactly the same power, with exactly the same level of pompous self-regard, as they did before all of that happened. Looking back several decades or more from now, who will possibly be able to understand how that happened: the almost perfect inverse relationship between one's culpability and the price they paid for what they unleashed?
In fairness to Chuck Todd, he was not one of the ones out there cheerleading for the war and I really liked him when I'd see him on C-SPAN's Washington Journal about every morning when he was working for The Hotline. He's a numbers guy. He was one of the best in the business at reading and sorting through the numbers on how our elections were going to turn out. I don't think coming to MSNBC however, has been good for Chuck Todd.
And now he's on there with the rest of them repeating the narrative of how terrible for the Democrats it would be if any investigations are allowed to happen, and if anyone from the Bush administration is held accountable. It's all politics to Chuck.
Here are my thoughts on that. One of the reasons it would be turned into a game of politics is because Chuck Todd and the rest of the beltway media would report it as such, instead of a legal matter. What Chuck Todd is relaying is what the Republican Party would like to see happen if the Democrats or this Department of Justice goes after the law breaking. It would be the choice of those in the media to validate the Republicans' sniping, which would inevitably follow (and already has for that matter), or to dismiss them as playing partisan politics in order to cover up law breaking for political gain.
Of course since the media was part and parcel in allowing the atrocities of the last eight or nine years, that's never going to happen.
Real Time's Real Reporter Dana Gould goes from a town hall protest with angry right wingers carrying Obama is Hitler signs and mad as hell, to a Remote Area Medical clinic, where the people waiting in line were polite and hopeful. Gould's response at the end of the segment is priceless, and not safe for work.
Real Time's New Rules for Aug. 7, 2009.
Maher: Now, before I go about demonstrating how easy it is to prove the dumbness that is dragging us down, let me just say that ignorance has life and death consequences. On the eve of the Iraq war, 70% of Americans thought Saddam Hussein was personally involved in 9-11. Six years later, 34% still do. Or look at the health care debate going on now. At a recent town hall meeting in South Caronlina a man stood up and told the Congressman to "keep your government hands off my Medicare!".
Which is kind of like driving cross country to protest highways. This country is like a college chick after two Long Island iced teas. We can be talked into anything, like wars. And we can be talked out of anything, like health care. We should forget the town halls, and replace them with study halls.
Listen to some of these statistics. A majority of Americans cannot name a single branch of government, or explain what the Bill of Rights is. 24% could not name the country America fought in the Revolutionary War. More than 2/3 of Americans don't know what's in Roe vs Wade. 2/3 don't know what the Food and Drug Administration does.
Some of this stuff you should be able to pick up by simply being alive.
Bob Baer, a former CIA officer visits the set of Real Time and explains why torture doesn't work and why waterboarding is torture. Baer also notes that we haven't even seen the worst of what happened because there are ninety two CIA cases that were destroyed because what was in them was so horrific.
John Amato:
It's very annoying that we still have to bring people out to explain over and over again that waterboarding is torture and "torture is bad.
We have to blame the media on this in reality because torture apologists will do and say anything to cloud the truth, but the media endlessly debates the same things over and over again. It's settled law and has been settled for decades. Torture is illegal and torture is a crime.
Cenk takes Erin Burnett to task for her appearance on Bill Maher's Real Time last Friday and her defense of Wall Street.
After listening to Joe Queenan chide him about the need to "let it go" with harping on Sarah Palin, Bill responds with his "clip" of how Fox News reacted to Obama's victory on election night. I'm still waiting for this to happen on Hannity's show before the next four years are over.
The Real Time Oct. 24, 2008 panel weighs in on McCain's awful comments about abortion during the debate. Comedian Carol Liefer raises some great points about the term "partial birth abortion" being something made up by the religious right to further their agenda of overturning Roe V Wade. It's actually a "late term abortion." And that abortion staying legal in this country is hanging on by a thread.
Apparently Matt Dowd hasn't been to any Palin rallies lately if he thinks no one cares about this issue any more. It will always be a huge money maker for the James Dobson wing of the Republican party. The money quote:
"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."
McCain gets a "zero" rating from NARAL and Planned Parenthood.
From Real Time Oct. 24, 2008 the panel of Tim Robbins, Carol Liefer, Matt Dowd and Arthur Laffer discuss how things will go for the Democrats if they do win the Presidency and large enough majorities in the House and the Senate to make the Republicans irrelevant. Matt Dowd of course thinks that for any Democrat to be successful in office they have to govern from the "center" which Bill Maher does a great job of shooting down.
UPDATE: by John Amato
This is becoming a prevailing theme from the Villagers. That America is a Conservative nation and if Obama wins the election he better not use liberal ideas to govern or he will pay a heavy price for it. Where is the outrage over the eight years of Conservative governance that has destroyed this country while all these so called Conservatives in Congress rubber stamped Bush's policies throughout his entire presidency?
Here's John Meacham's latest. Get used to it.
America remains a center-right nation—a fact that a President Obama would forget at his peril.Why doesn't Meacham hold Conservative ideology up for public scrutiny and then tell me why we're a Conservative nation? What have they done that has helped the 300 million plus Americans in their quest for better lives? We are creating less jobs for the economy, families are losing income per house household except for the ultra rich and the American dream is being crushed because of the greed that de- regulation has fostered. What the evidence shows is that we've just witnessed the greatest financial melt down since the Depression, but Obama should take heed and not govern with his own policies. To be continued...
Bill Maher has new rules for political "soulmates", gay French ambassadors, Amy Winehouse and any American who is considering voting for a candidate who seeks healing from witch doctors.
And finally, new rule: You can’t be President if you practice a violent, Middle Eastern religion and worship a genocidal desert god. Which is why Sarah Palin can’t be President. Now all the churches that Sarah Palin has attended, and she’s been to almost as many churches as she has colleges, have one thing in common: a belief that the Bible is literally true. She’s not “Country First”, she’s “Bible First”. And not just the New Testament. That’s the happy half of the book: the baby in the manger, Jesus doing magic tricks, long romantic walks on the water that turn into fishing trips with the guys and a generally positive message. Jesus, after all, preached love and forgiveness, not shooting wolves from an airplane.
The problem is Gov. Avon Lady, she takes the Old Testament literally too, and in that one, God is an insecure, rage-filled hybrid of Bobby Knight and Suge Knight. He’s been alive forever and He has anger issues. He’s like John McCain if John McCain could fart hail. He’s pro-slavery, pro-polygamy and homophobic and he’ll kill you for masturbating. More people get stoned in the Old Testament than in my Jacuzzi. That’s what I have to tell you guys… If there was a video of Barack Obama standing in front of his congregation being healed by a black witch doctor, this election would be over.
But there is that video of Sarah Palin.
By the way, for those of you keep track, Jane congratulates Bill for his "Religulous" kicking "An American Carol"'s tail on opening weekend. Considering that AAC wouldn't preview the film for critics, I think it's safe to say it's about as funny as the 1/2 Hour Comedy Hour.