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During their first debate for the Delaware Senate race, Republican candidate Christine O'Donnell proved that conservatives are incapable of understand irony and sarcasm and have no clue what Marxism is. That or she was fully aware of what she was doing and just decided to get a cheap shot in on Democratic candidate Chris Coons by pretending she didn't know full well the article he wrote years ago where he called himself a bearded Marxist was sarcasm aimed at his Republican friends.

We've been through this already but here is the post from Media Matters debunking the attack on Coons from the wingnuts -- Un-bearded: Chris Coons did not describe himself as a "Marxist".

You've got to give whoever coached O'Donnell credit. They had her ready to be a right wing talking points regurgitation machine for this debate, even if she get tripped up on occasion.

BLITZER: Let's give you a chance to respond to some of the things she said because in a television appearance back in 1998 on Bill Maher's show you said evolution is a myth. Do you believe evolution is a myth?

O'DONNELL: I believe that the local -- I was talking about what a local school taught and that should be taught -- that should be decided on the local community. But please let me respond to what he just said.

BLITZER: We'll let you respond but answer the question. Do you believe evolution is a myth?

O'DONNELL: Local schools should make that decision. I made that remark based on --

BLITZER: What do you believe?

O'DONNELL: What I believe is irrelevant.

BLITZER: Why is it irrelevant?

O'DONNELL: Because what I would support ...

BLITZER: Voters want to know.

O'DONNELL: What I will support in Washington, D.C. is the ability for the local school system to decide what is taught in their classrooms and what I was talking about on that show was a classroom that was not allowed to teach creationism as an equal theory as evolution. That is against their constitutional rights and that is an overreaching arm of the government.

But, please allow me at least the full minute to respond to what he said because he said these statements that we made should be taken into consideration when casting your vote. So then I would be remiss not to bring up the fact that my opponent has recently said that it was studying under a Marxist professor that made him become a Democrat. So when you look at his position on things like raising taxes, which is one of the tenets of Marxism; not supporting eliminating death tax, which is a tenet of Marxism -- I would argue that there are more people who support my Catholic faith than his Marxist beliefs, and I'm using his own words.

KARIBJANIAN: We're going to clarify that.

BLITZER: Because a lot of people remember, because they've learned in last few weeks you did once describe yourself when you were in college a long time ago as a bearded Marxist.

COONS: Great question, Wolf. I hope folks will go and read the article. It's an article that I wrote as a senior the day of our commencement speech and the title and the content of that clearly makes it obvious that it was a joke. There was a group of folks who I had shared a room with, my roommates junior year, who are in the Young Republican Club and who thought when I returned from Kenya and registered as a Democrat that doing so was proof that I had gone all the way over to the far left end, and so they jokingly called me a bearded Marxist. If you take five minutes and read the article, it's clear on the face of it, it was a joke. Despite that, my opponent and lots of folks in the right wing media have endlessly spun this. I am not now, nor have I ever been, anything but a clean-shaven capitalist.

O'DONNELL: Well, I would -- I would stand to disagree because, first of all, if you're saying what I said on a comedy show is relevant to this election, then absolutely you writing an article, forget the bearded Marxist comment, you writing an article saying that you learned your beliefs from an articulate, intelligent Marxist professor and that's what made you become a Democrat, that should send chills up the spine of every Delaware voter because then if you compare that statement to your policies --

COONS: If it were accurate, if it were true, I'd agree. But it's not accurate. It's not true.

O'DONNELL: You said that on MSNBC just a few weeks ago. You said that on MSNBC.

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Auximinus's picture

Why is this on CNN? First, O'Donnell is gonna lose. End of story. Secondly, this should be on tv IN DELAWARE. This is NOT a national race.
I REALLY hate the media in this country.

eroded47095's picture

political races?

I shouldn't be influencing races in other states.

It's not ethical when Saudi Arabia does it, and it's not ethical when the Great Orange Satan tries to do it, or when the Great Orange Satan sells my email address to others who solicit my involvement in it.

It's not ethical for a guy in my state to swing an election his way in another state.

It's unethical.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

Blue Lensman's picture

If the GOP gets control of the Senate, I think it has implications for all of us. So why wouldn't you care?

eroded47095's picture

Majority Rule, Deck Them Halls and Ho Ho Ho.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

brantl's picture

that you're not making sense. It would be even more of a shame if you're making sense to yourself.

eroded47095's picture

The real problem is the deep ugliness of the American People surfacing in the platform of the Republican Party.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

cpinva's picture

Majority Rule, Deck Them Halls and Ho Ho Ho.

CT is a pimple, on the total populations buttocks. only because the constitution requires 2 senators for every state, do states of CT's small size, have such an outsized effect on the rest of the country. majority rule has nothing to do with it.

don't get me wrong, i'm not suggesting the constitution should be amended, i'm merely pointing out the fallacy of your comment.

metman's picture

CT may be a small state geographically, but if you want to find states with real outsized representation, look to the midwest. There you will find entire states with populations smaller than a single burough of NYC or even moderately sized cities in non-fly-over states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._sta...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_S...

CT's largest cities combined are of greater population than VT or WY. Hell, the 2 largest cities in the country have larger populations than about 60% of the states. The bottom 12 states all have smaller populations than the top 5 cities. So yes, the Constiutional compromise essentially gave outsized influence to rednecks.

Auximinus's picture

...if it looked like O'Donnell had a snowballs chance in hell of winning. She doesn't though. All they are doing by putting her on national television is giving her a platform to increase her celebrity standing, ensuring that even after she gets whupped by Coons that she will be still be around spewing her idiocy on a national level. She is a worthless candidate that should be ignored outside of the state that is about to overwhelmingly give her the finger.

LockeNessMonster's picture

As bad as CNN's ratings are, this is probably this biggest thing they have been able to feature in awhile. People are going to tune in for a possible preview of the next SNL skit.


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

snore's picture

She turned me into a Newt!

Burn her!

Auximinus's picture

...

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

So does that mean she IS a Witch?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Rich H's picture

entertaining.

glogrrl's picture

a candidate for the United States Senate make a fool out of herself?

OK.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

Rich H's picture

But these comments and clips are entertaining (to me). She doesn't seem to be as mean spirited as Palin or Bachman, just a complete loon.

glogrrl's picture

skull is completely empty.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Does your ass blink lights in the dark?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

appnzllr's picture

Making her a right-wing tea-bagging regurgitating machine is what they did to Palin. Not a pretty sight.

Can O Whoopass's picture

in Afghanisbush. We're gonna git them Marxists in Bushdad, next. Then we're gonna git Castro in...
the Castro District.

This morning while dicussing last night's debate(?) with morning anchor Tony Harris, Fox Jr's Blitzer claimed O'Donnell won because "She exceeded very low exspectations" I almosted had a heart attack.

award winning "journalists" covered politics, the Pittsburgh Pirates would win every game just by taking the field.


"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor

taller ghost walt's picture

it's not hard to exceed it.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

glogrrl's picture

lie down on the floor and she would have exceeded it.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

fastfeat's picture

all the children can drink without IDs...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Bluestocking's picture

...that only opera singers who have already succeeded in establishing their excellence get applause for merely clearing their throats...and metaphorically speaking, O'Donnell isn't even a member of the chorus yet.

(I must have opera on the brain as a result of reading that the great diva Joan Sutherland passed away earlier in the week.)


Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.

pinkobait's picture

Blitzer is a mook.
Watching him get his ass kicked on Jeopardy was hilarious.


"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "

-Jack Handy

paixa3's picture

Just another empty head.

cund_gulag's picture

war versus the Soviets in Afghanistan in the '80's and '90's.
Everybody remember that? WWIII?
Yeah, me neither.
And then she said how after all that time, we can't abandon the country because it would... I don't know - some f*cking gibberish.
Uhm, Ms. O'DUMBnell, the Soviet Union wasn't even around anymore.in the '90's. And it was a PROXY war in the '70's and '80's between us and the USSR. And WE supported the Mudjahadeen.

If there was a show, "Are You Smarter than a 1st Grader," she wouldn't qualify.

eroded47095's picture

In my navel.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

I like scratching lint out of my navel

But it makes my left leg dance up-and-down....


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

eroded47095's picture

.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

glogrrl's picture

cat does!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Pick at your navel?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

glogrrl's picture

! No, his spontaneous leg dance when he's scratched in a certain place.

Clearer?


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

eroded47095's picture

reflexology thing.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

taller ghost walt's picture

a Marxist is someone who enjoys Richard Marx. Which is still a prejorative, I suppose.

glogrrl's picture

!


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

JonJon's picture

Any of his brothers

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Without society artificially supporting her, she would never have lasted this long.


Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine

Blue Lensman's picture

To turn the debate into a he-said/she-said argument instead of a detailed policy discussion. She can be easily dismissed but at the same time, this looks like another case of a Dem bringing a knife to a gun fight.

metman's picture

"I believe that local schools should be able to decide on what they teach in thier classrooms." Oh really? What if those local schools decide they want to teach white supremisist beliefs? Or, if public schools in heavily Muslim districts want to turn in to liberal madrassas? Or if they want to teach armed insurrection against the government? Go back to your little backwards hate hole, you hypocritical wench.

Rucka's picture

Did she compare her religious beliefs with political dogma??? "... his marxist beliefs with my my catholic..." and no one challenged her?

Samson-'s picture

when this palin stepford wife swatted at coons with that comparison there was an audible moan from the crowd that had, up to that point, heeded the call for silence pretty well. imo, it spoke volumes about how the people, at least in the audience, felt about o'donnell's absurd attack

glogrrl's picture

in the audience with enough brains or knowledge to do so.

If they were CNN watchers, I'm not surprised.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

tgovostis's picture

that the catholic church's official stance is that evolution is real. Yes they feel god created everything, but science is the mechanism to explain how it functions.

So denying evolution is actually at this point at the very least a bit heretical. If she really is a catholic.

OMFG. Can't find a job, run for office.

Rucka's picture

or is the world not round in certain districts? Evolution is a Proven Scientific Theory not a facile fantasy like 'creationism'

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

roberb7's picture

Exactly.

glogrrl's picture

never let facts get in the way of racist, ignorant dogma.

That's why they are all supported by Faux Noise....that's Faux's stock in trade.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Yes, but she loves Jeeeeeezus!!!!!

*snark off*

That seems to be the only thing some people care about... Goddess help us...

Hey, Jesus... just a favor... could you protect us from your followers?


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

derekthered's picture

between a theory and a hypothesis, much less know how to analyze the word "hypothesis".

which would be the reasoning underlying the thesis? kind of like a hypodermic needle goes underneath the skin, or dermis? something like that? don't ask me, all i have is a high school edgucashun..

bushsucks12's picture

The first reason is .....That Christine O'Donnell is being considered for a Senate seat anywhere is America and that she is pulling 30% of the vote.

The second reason is ....That Coons is not mopping up the floor with her idiocy...mocking her at every turn and exposing her for the looney tune that she is. For instance when she said something about we are still fighting the Russians in Afghanistan check out Coons reaction my jaw would have dropped my eye brow would have arched...I would have jumped right on the idiocy of her statement not to mention her inability to mention any current supreme court decisions that she might have an opionon on. All I can say is that it is a good thing the Teabaggers knocked out Castle.

Believe me I am hopeful that Coons is going to beat this clown but really shouldn't she bet polling in the 20's? Of course there is no understanding the mindset of America and I guess I never will.


stephen

metman's picture

20's? If this country had a normal incidence of insanity and IQ distrobution, I would expect single digets.

....condesended to O'Donnell during the debate. How can one not talk down to this complete fool?

Another dumb Republican woman who doesn't know any recent Supreme Court rulings but yet wants to represent America, including 8th graders who could have answered that question.

glogrrl's picture

In a battle of wits, you don't really want to beat up on an unarmed opponent.

Or, maybe he just was so stunned, he could not bring himself to stoop that far to her level?

Take your pick.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

ixnay's picture

Seriously, what's gonna take for a Dem politician to actually stop enabling their opponents in debates?

You don't have to enable stupid. Just say the fact and tell her flat out that she is wrong. If she tries to go on a tangent on bullshit, don't let her get away with it. Rinse, repeat. If she starts trying to complain she is being "bullied" by someone daring using facts in order to appeal to victim status and do what they always do: try to win the debate via the empathy angle. Simply state if that is how she is gonna represent Delaware in the senate, by cowering and crying when the going gets tough...

No mercy, no breathing room, put them into a corner, these idiots will self implode every single time, and there will be plenty of national TV cameras there to witness. There will be no room for them to spin it.

Sometimes, I swear the Dems in some of these debates somehow look like ringers playing for the same team as the GOP. "Oh, shit... I am running too fast and I may win the race, let me slow down so she catches up."


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Bluestocking's picture

And she wasn't even on FOX News at the time!

Boys and girls, can you say "desperation"? Because this is what it looks like. She knows she's losing to Coons in the polls, so she's grasping at any straw she can reach.


Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.

Fish's picture

is all the republican candidates can do. Republicans would lose big time if they actually told the truth.


Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.

character first's picture

I am tired of hearing these teabaggers questioning others patriotism.

I am a direct descendant of an American Patriot. He put his life, reputation, and property on the line for America. The teabaggers have not. In excess of 80% of the teabaggers never served to defend their rights or freedoms. Fucking Cowards.

Christine O'Donnell never served. None of her siblings ever served. I doubt if her 70 year old Daddy, Bozo, ever served. What right does she have to questions others patriotism.

If you are going to talk the talk then walk the walk.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Nathan Hale is one of my ancestors...

Another was a Scottish Lord that had the distinction of being the last person beheaded by axe in the British isles.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ron's picture

I don't think the voters are that concerned about what she said about evolution.

LockeNessMonster's picture

As an athiest, these holy science-is-junk people both piss me off and scare me. If you don't believe in evolution, which is probably based on what you believe from reading the Bible (or having someone else interpret it for you), what else do you or don't you believe in? Prayer in schools? End of the world in this generation? Freedom of religion? Topics like that can reveal much more about a candidate than their take on, say, economic theory which was probably spoon fed by a handler.
In other words, you take something written thousands of years ago as the "truth" and are not even open to alternative explanations or viewpoints. If that is not of concern I don't know what is.


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

ron's picture

I;m more concerned about her views of the job of a Senator.

LockeNessMonster's picture

interest, either. That worked out really well. I don't get the fact that she doesn't believe in evolution isn't an issue, and how the reasons for that (the Bible) would no doubt influence how she approaches that "job as a Senator." See Rick Santorum for an example.


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

LockeNessMonster's picture

science can produce such a viewpoint instead of the simple "God created everything in the universe in six days." (Too bad the Bible does not mention just how great that creation was and give proper credit, with all the galaxies and planets and different types of stars, the millions of species of plants and animals and microbes that had to be created then...talk about simplification.)


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

fastfeat's picture

for their comments regarding her "winning" this AM. Kinda reminds me of becky fawning all over palin.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

derekthered's picture

point 2 of the manifesto

"A heavy progressive or graduated income tax."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Manifesto

along with a bunch of other good stuff, if you check the link.

this is a perfect demonstration of what is wrong with the democrats, all rolled up into a gift wrapped package, which also demonstrates what an ignorant backwoods rube ms. o'donnell is, thrown in for good measure.

a person has to be rather perverse and make a real effort to ignore the evidence for evolution when we have evidence of neanderthals burying their dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanidar_Cave

on the other side we have Chris Coons running away from the charge about the income tax, and a bit later declaring what a committed Capitalist he really is, simply amazing.

we have the largest disparity in income since the Great Depression, tens of millions of people out of work, and this frigging moron has Coons back-pedaling? i fear for our country, and my sanity.

fastfeat's picture

she didn't call him a 'coon...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

gladnottobeamerican's picture

RIGHT!!!

NavSpecWarVet's picture

What is really astounding is that in a state with a population of 885,122 that this is the best that the Republicans could do? A nitwit who has never held a real job. Has no grasp of the issues, seems to not understand how government works, how it is structured or have any knowledge of history.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Wolfie, "Ah Miss O'Donnell can you tell me what a Marxist is?"
Miss O'Donnell. "Can you give me one little bitty hint?"

paixa3's picture

This woman probably has no clue about what the definition of Marxist is.

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Just like those who are voting for her...

Just like a huge number of voters here in Texas... they don't read anything beyond the "This Present Darkness" type of books, they only listen to those who reinforce their preconceptions...

again, "the common clay of the new west... you know... morons."

Once again, hey Jesus... little favor here... could you please find it in your heart to protect us from your followers? Thank you so much.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

Roninkai's picture

...she's a witch!

Why did he not throw that out there?

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

She would have no idea what a real witch is...

Gee... ain't that the same as a Satanist? (according to Ms. O'Dumbass and those who think like her)


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

ixnay's picture

And we know we couldn't have a Dem affect in the slightest the sensitivity of a Republican.

It was such a low hanging fruit, I just don't get it.


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Bonkers's picture

does she weigh the same amount as a duck?


I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.

theWalrus's picture

would make a great running mate for Sarah Palin in 2012.

Tom Servo's picture

This woman is clueless- it is clear she has NO idea what Marxism means- she's just another right winger with an IQ of 65. This woman is just a Sarah Palin clone...

metman's picture

No, the one thing I can say is she seems to have a better vocabulary and command of English grammar and syntax than most "folksy" republicans. That's about the only good thing to say about her though. Well, I guess she's kind of cute as long as she keeps her mouth shut.

gonbald's picture

and a bag over her head.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

A used puke bag?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

gonbald's picture

that sara belived in cloning.
THIS IS SCARY.

DamOTclese's picture

These insane Christian terrorists and traitors have no idea what Marxism is, what Socialism is, what Fascism is, or what Communism is. These insane right wing terrorist traitors *are* theofascist ******** loons.

FreeDUMB's picture

Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate, Jim Jones, the list goes on. Yes, there are objective measures of truth.

ThankGodImAnAtheist's picture

Do you really need to have an IQ below zero to be a republican candidate un the Unitred States ???

gonbald's picture

0 is too high for republicans. -000 is closer.

what to teach locally, then she must be against standardized testing. See, no-one is wrong about everything.

liberalbiasboy's picture

Between tenet and tenant. Someone should give her dumb ass a dictionary.


Reality has a liberal bias

shooter's picture

Christine, what a coward! If you believe the creation myth in the bible is how the Universe and life came into existence, say it! Have you no courage of our convictions. Odd that you would hedge on what is probably one of our core beliefs. She is quickly becoming a sterotype politician, trying to appease everyone.

cpinva's picture

in front of a tv camera? i don't what's more embarrassing, blitzer acting like o'donnell should be taken seriously, or o'donnell being allowed on tv, and being treated seriously. either way, they both owe coons an apology, for forcing him to keep a straight face throughout the "debate".

yakfitguy's picture

would be the dumbest candidate I would ever see run for office in my lifetime.

I guess I thought wrong.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

sixandseveneights's picture

the teabagger wing of the GOP ups the ante.

Alien_Overlord's picture

... when O'Donnell talks about "the Constitution" she MEANS "the CONFEDERATE Constitution" - they(Tea Party-ers) all do !!!

And IF they win, MAKE NO MISTAKE they will SWAP it with the CONFEDERATE version.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking
Republicans for Voldemort
Government does work, just not for YOU. Government work ONLY on the behalf of the Tycoons
Repeal stupid

Centrocitta's picture

Texans Larry Johnson and Karl Rove, please take note. Christine would not get my vote but the girl from Delaware is obviously a lot smarter than your girl from Alaska.

albabe's picture

Be serious... She so entangled and entrenched in her own megalomania and hubris that when the audience laughed at her for not knowing that the Separation of Church and State was in the Constitution... she thought they were laughing "with her..." not "at her."

She's even stupider that the Avon Governator.


~albabe (The Writer/Artist Formally Known As Al Gordon)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gordon

albabe's picture

A friend of mine quoted her, "She says has the Public's ear."

Of course she does. She's a Witch. It's in the jar next to the Eye Of Newt (Gingrich).


~albabe (The Writer/Artist Formally Known As Al Gordon)

http://www.comicon.com/gordon/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gordon

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