Joe Scarborough Thinks Dick Cheney Should Run in 2012
By Heather Tuesday Nov 17, 2009 7:00pm
Man did Joe Scarborough drink himself a heavy dose of Cheney Kool-Aid before this Monday's show. After hearing Liz toss out the idea of her daddy running in 2012 on Fox News Sunday the day before, Scarborough argues that Cheney running would be a wonderful idea and that no one could take him on in a debate. Jonathan Alter points out that the Bush administration was not exactly popular with the American public but that doesn't seem to phase Scarborough one bit. He wants Cheney out there fear mongering for the GOP and says at much at the end of the clip.
Rough transcript:
Scarborough: By the way I'm glad she did that because I have been pressing, by the way the buttons for like a couple of months-Cheney 2012.
Brzezinski: (laughter)
Scarborough: What's so funny?
Brzezinski: Ah...just the thought...makes me a little tired. That's all I'm going to say.
Scarborough: Tired in a way like you're going to be so excited and you can almost sense the confetti falling in your hair? I know you're excited about it too.
Meacham: But you know what? Dick Cheney running for President would be a principled experienced way of having the debates that we're having in sort of a fake way I think with Palin. He has a strong point of view.
Scarborough: You know Dick Cheney also; Dick Cheney has from time to time been turned into a cartoon character over the last decade... And remember he was turned into a cartoon character back in 2000, and everybody thought Joe Lieberman was going to mop him up in the 2000 debate. Didn't happen...Dick Cheney...all I'm going to say is. And I will guarantee you--I would make this guarantee--it would never happen, but if you had Dick Cheney sitting here and Barack Obama sitting here debating foreign policy, debating Gitmo, debating bringing terrorists into New York City, politically that would not end well, Jonathan Alter for Barack Obama.
Alter: Oh I think he'd hold his own okay. That Dick Cheney's the most deceptively ambitious guy we've seen. Remember when he was running Bush's search in 2000? "Oh I'm not interested in being Vice President", but he ends up Vice President. Then he has this whole independent operation, basically his own White House as Vice President, all the time saying "I'm the first Vice President in history who hasn't wanted to be President" so...
Brzezinski: Yeah.
Alter: ...I'm above politics, you know, you can't go after me because I don't have any ambitions.
Scarborough: Yeah exactly. (crosstalk)
Halperin: There's an emerging profile of the kind of Republican who I think, whom Barack Obama might be vulnerable in reelection. Cheney has a lot of his elements. First and foremost experience making the argument we let this guy in and he wasn't up to the job, this is an adult who's ready to come back in. Dick Cheney's not the right person though to be that... (crosstalk)
Scarborough: Hold on for a second though. I know that there was a problem, you're right. There is a problem with over the past ten years a lot of people have problems with Dick Cheney, but you look at him. He's always been fiscally conservative. I'm talking about let's get the Darth Vader mask over for a second. Here's a guy, he's got the Republican strengths on, on foreign policy issues he drives progressives crazy, but remember when he went out talking about Gitmo and some of these other issues he was sitting at 19% because he'd stayed quiet, let the press define him. Now his approval rating is above, it's in the 30's.
Halperin: And he could get Rachel Maddow's endorsement because he's pro-gay marriage.
Scarborough: And he's pro-gay marriage.
Brzezinski: There you go.
Scarborough: Exactly.
Meacham: But let's be clear. He designed, forged and put on the Darth Vader mask. I mean this is an image to some extent that he has cultivated particularly since the inauguration and my point is let's, if he wants to continue to weigh in on these questions, let's get him in the arena and adjudicate this in the public debate.
Scarborough: I would have loved to see any administration official, and any administration official sit down for 90 minutes no commercials across the table with Dick Cheney where they don't have certain people in the press putting the Darth Vader mask on him and I would like to see how any one of them would hold up. I would guess if you took a flash poll afterwards it would not be good for the Democratic official taking him on.
Halperin: And Biden would whoop his butt.
Scarborough: Yeah. (crosstalk)
Alter: Look the idea of his being a fiscal conservative after that administration... (crosstalk).
Scarborough: I was talking about when he was in was, when he was in the House.
Alter: Yeah, when he's associated with that administration and it was not exactly one of the more popular administrations...
Scarborough: No... well listen. I understand--I'm just saying, I'm trying to give the other side, because again these are the type of guys that sneak up on people in Washington...
Brezezinski: That's true.
Scarborough: ...and everybody again turns him into a cartoon character, but when he gets out and gets his say there are more than a few independents out there that go "Okay you know what, that guy makes a lot more sense than the guy saying let's bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to New York City.
Brezezinski: Then you look at the polls of the country because incumbents right now are facing a very tough line...
Scarborough: I'm just saying I'm afraid of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed so work your fear magic on me Dick Cheney.
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That'd be awesome!
I would love to see Cheney/Gingrich v. Palin/Plumber in 2012! Republican Old school v. Rouge New skool!!! Oh please, please, please. Keep cheering Joe and you'll make my dreams come true!
Heck, if they run either of those tickets there's a real chance Kucinich could win for once.
git real
these fuckers are all fucked up in the head
Amen!
That Msnbc is a liberal...
I have not seen one liberal or as far as that goes Democratic news station anywhere..
Msnbc Meet the Press was Cheney and the republicans go to news outlet for eight years..
Matthews was a loyal Bush/ Cheney fan for over 6 years.
Chris calls the left a bunch of Looney's...
Joe the republican kid is as much republican as you can get..
Also Chris , Ed , Olbermann and Rachel does the democrats no favors when they just keep showing the no bodies like Palin and Cheney 24/7 even when they do not make any statements.
When they do , it is repeated so much you have nightmares about it..
... in 2012 and if elected, almost 72 when he would take office. We all saw how well having a septuagenarian at the top of the ticket worked last year for the GOP. Can the party afford to continue to be seen as the party of really old white guys and Cheney's case, really old CHICKENHAWK white guys? Cheney's health is not the best anyway. While Cheney-Palin would be a dream ticket for the Democrats, I doubt it would happen.
god, i loath that smug sob. bill oreilly's little brother -- he's such a fucking bully
I'm sure O.J. Simpson, Robert Blake, Phil Spector would agree with Killer Joe regarding champion murderer/liar Cheney..
Run in front of a Locomotive.
You are stoopid.
Hopefully Msnbc cancels this turd of a show ASAP. Move 'Morning Meeting' in to replace it.
Please NO! These maroons are off air at 6 AM PST. It's perfect for us west coasters. We can actually keep our breakfast down.
When all you do is lie, and the moderator (U.S. press) is so spineless that if they found a spine all they'd do is ask it what it thinks about Lindsey Lohan.
I don't know a single person - re=Thug and dems alike - that doesn't think that it would be OUTSTANDING if the noxious blood-sucking leech would run for the top job.
OUTSTANDING! ARE YOU LISTENING ... D.I.C.K.??
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Cheney / Palin 2012 ! LMAO ! Cheney ? Damn , what next from these people ? They are absolutely off their friggin rockers ... to the point that it's a bit frightening really . It's like a sci fi movie only they are for real .
Palin won't be anyone's second. She's going for the big tiara baby. No runner up for this one. Nosiree bob.
'cause, ya know, she woulda won in 2008 if she didn't have McCain draggin her down. Also.
Oh my god. I haven't laughed that hard in a really really long time. Oh god, Cheney,BBBBBBBBBBBBHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH,
Palin, HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA No really STOP your killing me...
I for one, will be estatic when this damn 'beauty' pageant is over..............
I see Rachel Maddow as a one dimensional, single issue voter. I'm sure she'd be first in line to endorse The Dick for his [alleged] pro-gay-marriage--erm--stance. Because everyone knows even if his daughter WEREN'T gay, he'd still be for it.
My Dick, what a wide stance you have.
She's not.
I see.
missed it.
you haven't listened to Rachel Maddow.
Mephistopheles/Palin 2012? Nu uh.
Oh and Halperin is a misogynist/heterosexist douchebag.
And no one's ever explained the dead body of Lori Klausutis, his Congressional aide, being found in his office.
That sort of thing obviously fucks a guy up.
mind-blowing case of the crazy! :S
She worked there. She had a bad mitral valve. Her injuries were consistent with hitting her head on the side of a desk as she fell after her heart most likely went into a bad rhythm because of the valve. She might well have died from the heart malfunction had she not hit her head. I don't buy the conspiracies on this one.
http://www.allhatnocattle.net/9-1-01_klausuti...
to the one paper in america that ran any stories on the incident.
For christ's sake, this is for you too.
That would help remind people what kind of lying extremists are running the republican't party, give them a reminder of 8 years of unbroken failure and lying to the American public for cheap political gain. It would be the best thing to happen to America.....not so great for the republican'ts however as they will lose yet another election.
That according to CNN and the NY Times told Senator Leader Tom Dashle on 01/2002:
"Tuesday's discussion followed a rare call to Daschle from Vice President Dick Cheney last Friday to make the same request.
"The vice president expressed the concern that a review of what happened on September 11 would take resources and personnel away from the effort in the war on terrorism," Daschle told reporters."
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/01/2...
What Cheney really wanted to know is how Daschle managed to avoid inhaling the anthrax.
Dick Cheney IS Darth Vadar in his HEART.
Republicans don't get this.
The rest of us KNOW IT TO BE TRUE.
This isn't about The Scar -- it is about Chrissie Matthews. His obsession with calling Cheney "Cheeney" has gone from the absurd to the truly obsessed.
Today, he had on a GOP operative. (I forget his name, but he is on quite often.) He made it a point to call him "Cheney" like 99.99% of people do. It was obvious he was doing it to get Chrissie's goat -- and it worked. Not laughing, Chrissie said, "WHY do you call him CHENEY? He pronounces it CHEENEY!" The guy just kept laughing. Someone really should tell Chrissie he is being laughed AT, not WITH.
and I'm not sure what's more irritating. His obsession with "Cheeney" or how much Sarah Palin "sparkles" and being so cock sure she's going to run for President. I was going to do a mash up of his Palin nonsense and I couldn't bring myself to listen to him again.
I'll ask her how it is pronounced.
Check back here in a couple of days.
Matthews even admits the rest of the family pronounces it CHENEY. Is he afraid if he says CHENEY, Cheney will shoot him?
pronounces it CHEENEY. So, Matthews does too. No big mystery, there. Even a stopped clock is right, occasionally.
Joe's eyes are too close together ... he's stupid like that.
OK, maybe he should be -- but would he be less afraid of him if he were never convicted?
Is Cheney less scary than KSM? Which of the two has more blood on his hands?
Would Cheney run for emporer or patron saint of government contractors?
Well if Joe wants The Dick to run then maybe Joe should join him.
We could call it the Dick and Prick Ticket. Its short and sweet and
nobody wants to see it.
Cheney he put the CON. IN CONservative.
LOL!
Hehe! Thanks for my morning chuckle....
The one thing you can always count on Joe for, is when it comes to STUPID, he can really bring it. People have had a good long time to form their opinions about DICK. Lowest approval ratings EVER. What difference does it make what anybody thinks of him now? He's history. DONE. FINI. He's sending his idiot daughter around to remind everybody that the person they find so repulsive is her DADDY. WHO CARES?
Hey Joe shuttup and go dance with your skeletons in your closet you freak.
Maybe Joe is just looking to set up easy opponents for his own primary run in 2012? Surely Joe would LOVE to run against Cheney in the RNC primaries, no?
Brzezinski: Ah...just the thought...makes me a little tired. That's all I'm going to say.
Scarborough: Tired in a way like you're going to be so excited and you can almost sense the confetti falling in your hair? I know you're excited about it too.
No, Joe, I think Mika's "tired" in a way that says "Lord Jesus, I am TIRED of having to put up with this scumbag and the shit that dribbles from his pretty-boy mouth."
Joe's is right; the country needs a real criminal to run it. He won't take s _ _ t, from anyone, especially wimpy Americans. He'll
torture slap those bitches into line and there will be no more whining about civil rights, liberty, and worst of all the Constitution. Joe knows that tyranny is where it's at. Think of all the money saved by corporations when they won't have to sell their agenda and sneak it into legislation that they write; they'll be able to simply command what they want by fiat. Cheney and his buds can finally end the silly game of pretending anyone in power wants a democratic republic; it's soooo.... inefficient.
Amen!
I can just hear the Blackwater Marine band playing "Hail to the DICK!"
By outsourcing the Marine Band to his cronies, who will make 6 times more in wages than normal Marines, big DICK will be saving the taxpayers money. What a guy.
Joe and Cheney have the same problem - they don't remember the Bush debacle - too tramatic for their little brains to handle.
Bush doesn't care
cheney doesn't recall
"Halperin: And he could get Rachel Maddow's endorsement because he's pro-gay marriage.
Scarborough: And he's pro-gay marriage.
Brzezinski: There you go."
yes, i can see maddow rolling over for cheney just for the single pro-gay marriage issue.
she'd totally ignore warrentless domestic wiretapping, outing plame, wmd's, haliburton, secret oil deals, torture Я us, secret rendition, and old geezer shoots.
one (on their part). 'Cause the sheep that Scarborough and Halperin appeal to, I think, tend to be more likely to be single-issue
idiotsvoters than well-rounded progressives...Just sayin'...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZBevXohCI
Has he not lived on the same planet as the rest of us all though the 1st decade of the century? Cheney got us into a war in Iraq. He was a holder of A LOT of stock in Haliburton. He was all about torture. HE SHOT HIS FRIEND IN THE FACE and then tried to make the man apologize to him.
AND...he's not what you'd call healthy.
Joe needs to get serious or get off the air.
see D*I*C*K convicted of treason.
He drank a little something, alright. Look at the size of his nose.
But I think the size of his nose has more to do with his head being so far up cheney's ass. Kinda of rimming as it goes in and out!
Cheney/Palin!
It would surely be the final stake in the GOP's triple-bypass, pacemaker-supported, vampire heart.
Oh please, God, make it so!
Cheney/Cheney 2012. That is where this is heading.
to an antichrist as you can get....
See, if war criminal Dick Cheney makes like he running for president, then any attempts to start prosecuting him for the war crimes he committed can be called "political prosecutions" by guys like Joe Scarborough.
That is sooooo clever!
The threads are coming loose on cheney's teflon tuxedo and patches have now worn through.
now in the light of day, Cheney's just another white collar crook
well, we knew it all along didn't we.
fazed!
Cheney is exhibiting classic guilty behavior. Of coarse if he were smart enough to realize that and stop, he wouldn't be Cheney.
For Chrisakes it's a fuckin' COMEDY show!
What? Oh it isn't?
Nevermind.
Just when you think there might be a glimmer of sanity among some conservative pundits, they come up with zingers like this which quickly remind you as to how crazy these people are.
The thought of DICK Cheney (or Sarah Palin) within 500 yards of the White House is quite disturbing. But then again, never, ever, underestimate the stupidity of American voters!
that republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness that is killing America!
How much more proof do you need? Think about it nixon that towering pillar of virtue of the republican party said chenny was crazy and should not be allowed into a powerful position!
Then we get eight years of what could only be seen as pure insanity with the unholy bush/chenny cabal funded and backed by corporate america thru the MSM! This asshole thinks it would be a good thing for the insane old fool to run for the presidency?
These people are stark raving/batshit CRAZY!
They are getting sicker by the day. That's the give away that it's illness and not plain ol' stupidity.
try to run that little shitsucker. I don't think that he could win any primary, much less the general election, but let them try.
please, please, please run!! Pretty please with baby heads on top?
No one with a pacemaker is going to be elected to the nation's top office.
Yes suspension of the US Constitution, repeal of the Habeas Corpus and total Corporation domination.
Here is a Clown that would be the worst thing ever for this Country.
I would except that challenge of this CLOWN going against President Obama and NOT using preset questions or the Anti American Noise net work.
This Buffoon would fall on his face.
I'm not sure he can even manage a trot
Without Dr. Frankenstein zapping his electrodes every few feet.
Mika contributes absolutely NOTHING to the conversation either.
Anyone but Palin.
Aww, come on let's make up a serious list.
Palin/Dobbs
Cheney/Prejean
Guiliani/Joe the P
Gingrich/Bachmann
Limbaugh/some horrible extreme militia right wing turd we haven't heard of yet.
Hole.
Just like he threw Lori Klausutis and his own unexpected resignation from Congress shortly after spending a small fortune getting elected down the memory hole.
Why is this a-hole still on my tv?
In the age of Obama, actually any age, people like Dobbs and Morning Moron should not be in the public square. Dobbs said it himself.
I think Dick Cheney should GET the runs in 2012...in 2010 and 2011 too.
...Dick Cheney will be dead by 2012. I mean just how long is that pump of his - he has no heart, by the way - gonna keep ticking? Cause it's been way too long as far as I'm concerned. If it had called it quits ten years ago, this country, and the world, would be far better off.
And further, if the Devil, again, assuming there is one, decides it's time to 'call the note' on Scarborough's 'soul-selling' deal, we'll be shed of his sorry ass by then as well.
I desperately hope Dick Cheney runs for president in 2012.
And I hope Sarah Palin is his running mate.
When I heard Liz Cheney say something about running a Cheney in 2012 I thought she was talking about herself. Like LiZ Cheney 2012. The funny thing is that nobody took it that way and if she was talking about herself maybe she was shot down in one hunting trip. i sure hope she was talking about herself. That would be funny.
There is not a chance in hell Dick Cheney would be elected President. He's one of the most despised men in the country.
there should be an investigation into the death of that young woman found dead in Joe's office.
Ya, the banged their head on the coffee table excuse is getting old.
Please let the cardiac asshole run again and get slaughtered.
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