Ann Coulter Claims There's an Epidemic Of Racial Profiling Hoaxes
By Heather Saturday Aug 01, 2009 6:00pm
Ann Coulter does her best job of cherry picking what she says were racial profiling hoaxes to basically insinuate that racial profiling never happens in the United States. She claims that "liberals" can never find a case that wasn't a hoax. I hate to tell you this Ann, but just because something isn't Al Sharpton's latest photo-op du jour or the media hasn't talked about it, it doesn't mean that it's not happening. Your argument is completely ridiculous. And Henry Gates never should have been arrested for disorderly conduct in his own home.
Ann I just don't know how all the bigots would get by without the likes of you and your other right wing hate mongers doing your best to make them feel better about themselves.
INGRAHAM: And now for the top story. What exactly is that teachable moment in all the recent racial banter? Joining us from us Florida with her provocative take as always is Ann Coulter, author of the huge bestseller "Guilty: Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America."
And Ann, I have to say I watched a competing cable channel. I had it DVR'd somewhere. I watched you last night with Sharpton. Okay? And just the look on his face when you came out and said well, what racial profiling? And I'm sure African-Americans across the country were saying what is this woman talking about? Explain.
ANN COULTER, CONSERVATIVE COLUMNIST: It's not that it's never happened. I've just been watching, you know, the gusher of cliches on television about this. I mean, this -- clearly there was no racial profiling in this case in Boston unless you're talking about Professor Gates racially profiling an Irish cop and assuming he must be a racist. There was some racial profiling that way.
But you know, I write about this in "Guilty". And I only give an abbreviated list in "Guilty" although it goes on for pages and pages of all of the alleged acts of racism or racial profiling that turn out to be hoaxes.
And I mean, as far as back in our lifetime as the Tawana Brawley case there was the case with the Exeter kid. And at first, you have to read all the headlines at first. You know, why would this Exeter have mugged an undercover cop. And then, you know, all the facts come out. They got witnesses. They got - have the autopsy. Yeah actually, the Exeter honor student on his way to Stanford did mug an undercover cop and the grand jury acquitted.
You have the one with a black kid who was carrying a machete. The cop thought it was a gun. Again acquitted by the grand jury after hysterical headlines throughout "The New York Times." You got the Clermont and the kennel woman. A white woman. A lot of these times, these are whites who are.
INGRAHAM: Yeah.
COULTER: .seeking racial reconciliation. And they claim they come under attack. The Claremont professor who vandalized her own car with anti Semitic and racist graffiti. There are witnesses who saw her doing it.
INGRAHAM: Right.
COULTER: You bring it right up to recently Columbia University, the black professor who hung the noose, suspiciously, it seems that she's probably the one who hung the noose.
INGRAHAM: Yeah, I remember that one.
COULTER: And the case quietly goes away to the Duke lacrosse case where, yeah, there was racial profiling. There was athletic profiling of the allegedly rich young frat boys.
So I'm just saying, you know, before -- every time one of these comes up, you have liberals saying well, okay, it wasn't true in this case, but we still have an epidemic of racial profiling. Well, they got to start having their cases not turn out to be hoaxes before they can say that. What we seem to have a rash epidemic of.
INGRAHAM: What about the ACLU lawsuit, Ann, yeah, what about the ACLU lawsuit against Maryland state police? And the ACLU sued and there was a settlement. An out-of-court settlement essentially an admission.
COULTER: Right.
INGRAHAM: .on the part of Maryland that they do stop African-American drivers in some type of pattern that I guess some people believe is profiling.
COULTER: Right. What they compare these thoughts to is the percentage of blacks in the population, which if you know, if think about it is obviously absurd. I mean, just to take one example in another category, shootings in an article by Heather McDonald this week. She releases the astonishing statistic that 82 percent of the shootings in New York City, the shooter is black. Less than 1 percent is the shooter white. And that's with more whites than blacks in New York City.
So cops are looking for if there's been a shooting, the witnesses are probably very likely to say it was a black who did the shooting. It turns out it's the same thing with these highway patrols. There is an absolute scientific study in New Jersey. And I don't think blacks are slowing their cars down when they get from New jersey to Maryland, where they did the same thing. They compared the black numbers in the population to the number of blacks speeding.
INGRAHAM: Finally.
COULTER: Finally, the highway patrol got so fed up with being called racist and by everyone, especially the Clinton administration, they encouraged the attorney general of New Jersey to conduct a scientific survey of this.
So what the scientific survey did, rather than just comparing numbers in the population, they set up a camera. And they clocked cars, photos of the drivers as they are going by and what the speed was. They had one group of people determine what the race of the driver was. They -- without knowing what the speed was. And it turns out if anything, the New Jersey highway patrol was stopping not enough blacks. Blacks speed more. Now, you know, it could be because blacks tend to be a younger demographic and you get younger people.
INGRAHAM: Yeah.
COULTER: .who speed more.
INGRAHAM: Yeah.
COULTER: But the point is it wasn't racial profiling.
INGRAHAM: There is a disparity though, right. And it's so explosive even to have this conversation because once you start having this conversation, people, you know, people from, you know, all, you know, walks of life start to say oh, you can't believe. This you can't really belief what you're saying because my black friends say they have been stopped and they've been stopped unfairly. So there is a perception issue even if it's not grounded I think what you're saying in the reality of what the cases are.
Can I ask you about the Crowley issue, yesterday the big beer summit and so forth? He didn't get apology from either Gates. Apparently Gates won an apology from Officer Crowley. Crowley didn't give it. Gates didn't give it. And Obama didn't give it. So what was the teachable moment very quickly?
COULTER: Right. I think the teachable moment should be applied to the cop who did send an email in intemperate moment, exploding at a journalist. I mean, he turns out to be the Emanuel Goldstein for the week. Liberals are bitterly disappointed that Sergeant Crowley -- they couldn't find anything on him suggesting he's a racist. So they get this one cop who sends a stupid, immature intemperate email.
INGRAHAM: Right.
COULTER: And now he's apologizing all over the place. If Gates isn't going to apologize, how about a little fairness for this guy doing something immature and irrational, too?
INGRAHAM: Ann, thanks a lot. Good to see you.
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Ingraham couldn't get a word in edgewise. Not that that's a bad thing.
Any chance of giving Coulter the Abdul Louima treatment?
Would she be the stick?
Not Abdul.
What's the Abdul treatment then? Doing too many drugs and telling people they can't go to Hollywood?
Yeah right. What a joke.
Two utterly repulsive beings.
She had to find some where more suitable for spiting her hatred.
You must have missed this.
Al did a pretty good job of destroying her with one comment.
"That's just Ann being Ann."
He begun every rebuttal with that.
He just reduced her to the small minded individual she is.
She had the nerve to say Police should pull over more blacks.
Once again Al just dismissed her.
"That's just Ann being Ann." Then he just smacked her with facts.
May I say I'm not an AL fan but he totally showed you how to deal with her.
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/31/coulte...
I'm surprised she got through that segment without calling Sharpton a n*gger like she called John Edwards a f*ggot. Of course we found out later, as if having the wife and kids wasn't a clue, that Edwards was not in fact a f*ggot but hey, that never stopped a bigoted homophobic conservatives from slandering folks and being wrong before.
because of this fucked up shaming system we have.
but he had coulter dead to rights last nite
in order to show that racial profiling doesnt occur, she brings in cases that have nothing to do with racial profiling
she is a lying skank
see it as him having her as dead to rights.
Uncle Joe, you hit it right on! If you're going to try to disprove racial profiling, at least use examples where racial profiling was brought up as an element of the case. I got the idea while listening to her ramble that she has no idea what racial profiling means. She went too far to prove her point. When she said that %82 of shootings were done by blacks she made herself sound ridiculous. That she quoted a column doesn't give creedence to the argument at all. I could make a ridiculous claim and point to the fact that it was in Coulter's book, which is full, I'm sure, of a lot of looney "facts". I would imagine it just about killed her to say that it does happen before she spewed her list of non-profiling cases to disprove racial profiling.
I'd love to know how she would feel if I was able to explain to her that I've been pulled over twice in the last week and told that my plates came back to the same car in a different color (the result of a DMV error). In both instances, the officers matched the VIN number on the registration to that on the vehicle and told me to have a nice day without ever asking for my license or mentioning any other violation. I would like to ask her what prompted them to run my plates in the first place. I'm sure she would come up with a really good reason, though.
Is it just me, or does Coulter have a way of saying "blacks" that makes you cringe a little bit? And I'm not overly-sensitive, trust me! When she says it she makes it sound so negative. Then again, it may be because you know how she feels about the "blacks" when she says it.
Sometimes its hard to tell.
Actually she was a lawyer. Can't you tell?
The grand jury does not "acquit" anyone. That implies the GJ is a trier of fact. They aren't. They either "no bill" or "true bill," meaning hand down (also known incorrectly as 'hand up,' popular in the MSM) an indictment based on hearsay and basically what the asst. DA or US Attorney want, either a trial or not. Coulter said it twice, so it was meant as deception or proves anyone who wants her legal opinion is a really rich, white winger or a suicidal criminal.
Grades and Scores don't mean a damn thing when it comes to real life. Coultergeist is a dumb-assed lawyer, can't you tell?
Ann Coulter reminds me of Susan "Sadie Mae Glutz" Atkins of the Manson Family and Laura Ingraham is another Patricia Krenwinkel.
Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham viciously kill others with their tongues and that rhetoric has already resulted in deaths of their "political opponents."
So, yes, Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham are killers in verbal tone and rhetoric, if not in the deed itself.
By the way, most of the Manson Family women came from similar middle-class backgrounds of which both Coulter and Ingraham came from.
Ann--Charles Manson is proud of you today because he was also a known racist himself who wanted a race war. You right wingers have so much in common with Charles Manson from his hate of Hollywood to the justifying of murders of others. Manson also was a bible thumper like the right wing loons as well.
Not either
and treating her like a human
"the grand jury acquitted ... Again acquitted by the grand jury"
Apparently not only does Ann Coulter not believe in the reality of racial profiling, she also doesn't believe in innocent until proven guilty.
Why does Ann Coulter hate the US judicial system?
> Why does Ann Coulter hate the US judicial system?
Another question that comes to my mind is: Why does she get so much airplay on this site? Aren't there any good, solid, logical liberal clips that could be put up instead?
And know who originated them. So when someone drops this shit in line at the grocery store, at the corner pub or at work, you can say, "Hey, why didn't you tell people that you got that idea from the lurvely Ann Coulter?"
Yes, let's DO remain ill-informed about the big picture, and refuse to learn what's being said by the people we disagree with. Because, dammit, we're right, and everything else is irrelevant. I can't be bothered hearing what other people have to say.
Unless you are a criminal, justice is the last thing you get from it.
People often claim that the Republicans only ever see things in black and white. That's patently unfair. They only see things in white.
That's because everything appears white when there's a sheet over your head.
And blonde.
Can't stand that sight or sound of those two harpies.
Seeing one of them alone is bad enough but together is just unbearable. What a couple of right wing cretin slags.
I know a few slags, and they're quite wonderful breakfast companions.
It ain't pancakes your eating then:)
There goes my joke!
alleging that today's liberal women are angry and abrasive sounding, some of their reichwing pinup girls have some of the most grating and abrasive voices on the planet, esp. these two. :S
First thing in the morning? No way I was going to watch them.
Who cares what these douchebags think?
At least we know rabid right wing Republican cretins don't just viciously personally attack Dems, they will eat their own. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9zlHHqAxY4
2 Cs in a K ( 2 Cs in a kitchen), a device used in ads, where you have 2 women in a kitchen discussing the attributes of the product being sold.
Is it a prerequisite if you are a "woman" to be on FOX that you be a bleach bottled blonde?
They like the occasional woman of color, such as Michelle Malkin, as long as she talks the way they like. And it obviously doesn't hurt to have cocaine eyes.
Michelle as a bleached blonde, too?? Eww-e-ww-www.
Saline filled lips...
Is that witch having a conversation with her broomstick?
And we all know what the broomstick represents.
In Victorian illustrations, they had Witches riding side-saddle.
You can follow these two on "Twatter"
Ok, that's it, I'm outta here!
same long ugly face
same giant dentist made teeth (love caps)
same fake bleached blonde hair
same giant forehead
anyone think they were both cloned in the same evil mad scientist's lab?
when your dentist is also your gynecologist
Um...I have a giant forehead.
I have to buy hats 2xlarge.
Skanks makes my penis sad.
:(
What else can I say?
Is that what that tear is?
of either and not trying to be holier than thou, but I really don't care what someone looks like. Their looks can't do damage to me. Their thoughts acted upon and policies can.
I would like to know more about this HP research into speeding and race and more about the shootings in NYC and race.
Are those legit studies or more right wing bullshit?
Since we are talking about race, it sure would be interesting to know if any of us harbored any internal feelings that may lean in a negative manner toward one race versus another.
Oh. Well, here it is - https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/
Project Implicit.
Good luck everybody.
On the race test, I am slightly more likely to ascribe negative connotations to a black person as compared to a white person.
I remain...a work in progress.
I guess maybe that shows that you actually DO care what someone looks like....?
"....I am slightly more likely to ascribe negative connotations to a black person...." ^
Is to scare off other GOP vampires? I'll bet they get real pesky given this Kill Granny stuff. Also very surprised Coulter did not recoil in horror.
go to the site and take the test. You will know what the test indicates as it compares color to certain responses.
I describe an affinity via the test. I don't then come on message boards and bash what people look like.
Then you need to read 'Stupid White Men' by Michael Moore and skip to chapter 4 Which opens with "I don't know why, but every time I see a white guy walking toward me, I tense up." Guaranteed, you'll find whitey to be much more terrifying than you thought before.
Excellent book.
The Implicit test is eye-opening and does what I think needs to be done from time to time. Look at oneself in a more objective manner. That is difficult to do. The test is an assist in that direction.
The study, in and of itself, is legit. But like many studies, it doesn't necessarily answer all questions, and I'm afraid that Coulter is giving it credit for saying a lot more than it says.
Now, don't get me wrong. I worked with cops for way too many years to believe that they're all out there running amuck, looking for an opportunity to abuse people. Yeah, there are some cops with an attitude - around here, other cops call it having a heavy badge. You see the same mindset in dozens of professions, incidentally, people who seem to be just WAY too impressed with their own importance. Most of the young cops outgrow it as they grow into their job.
Anyway, I don't think that most cops are egregiously profiling, and I think that a lot of the incidents lumped into the category of "profiling" are not (and sadly, the term 'profiling' has been mutated far away from the original practice & intent). BUT Coulter is being more than a little disingenuous to claim that one study that seems to indicate that the racial disparity shown in one area is not related to racial bias in law enforcement somehow means that bias never exists.
A blonde, brunette and redhead passed away in a car accident.
They arrive at the pearly gates and they are told they will be told a joke every 10 steps and they must make it up 100 steps. If they laugh they will not able to get in.
The brunette went up 30 steps and laughed. The redhead went up 50 steps and laughed. The blonde got up all the way to the top and then started laughing hysterically.
When asked "Why did you laugh when you got to the top?" The blonde replied, "I just got the first joke!"
A hoax? And she would know this how? Being white and blond, she has probably never been stopped by the cops ever, unless she was speeding and even then she probably was only issued a ticket and let go.
"And it turns out if anything, the New Jersey highway patrol was stopping not enough blacks."
I almost choked on my tea when Ann let this gem out.
Does any one remember the 1970's film Watermelon Man where the white bigot goes to sleep only to wake up black the next day.
This needs to happen to Ann.
I do.
1970 starred Godfrey Cambridge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJvEVeVMC-8
make my ears bleed.
Excuse me for profiling, but Coulter is a white bread screecher who has made her living playing to a now dying (but still paying) base. Malkin is of the same ilk. Beck, Hannity and O'Reilly as well (hence my profiling. Yes, Malkin is white bread. Filling, but insubstantial.). They're scared to death that they will not only get old (especially in Coulter's and Malkin's case, too late in O'reilly's) and irrelevant, but that they will also be proven wrong again and for all time. But, hell, they made a good buck out of it. If only they can keep things from getting better. Yeah, there's a legacy.
Ugh. Those two at the same time. I'd rather listen to Fran Drescher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngJHEXWO5AQ
Don't think she is ready to play prime time politics, but she was funny as heck on the TeeVee.
Ann Coulter reminds me of Susan "Sadie Mae Glutz" Atkins of the Manson Family and Laura Ingraham is another Patricia Krenwinkel.
Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham viciously kill others with their tongues and that rhetoric has already resulted in deaths of their "political opponents."
So, yes, Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham are killers in verbal tone and rhetoric, if not in the deed itself.
The most important thing that crosses my mind when I see her and you really have to wonder DOES SHE SWALLOW. This Bimbo and her Racist Nazi Party (RNC) can't say any thing to me. What a IDIOT
Are there nonracist Nazis?
Actually when Gates was arrested for little more than ordering the police off his property, I saw shades of DWB.
I could just see those two
At the corner malt-shoppe
As they gaze longingly into each others smouldering eyes
While they share
A bucket to puke in.
Let's look at this. Here are two women, neither of whom is talking about sex or wearing provocative clothing. This is a supposedly political and professional context, and all you asshats can do is talk about how fuckable or not these two women are.
It is bizarre to see you have hysterics about these two having a bigoted attitude toward AAs and gays and then forge right ahead leering and using frat-boy terms at them.
I'm no fan of Ingraham, Coulter, or Malkin, or I wouldn't be on this blog. But reducing ANY woman who attempts to talk politics to their least common denominator of whether they make your penis happy or sad, suck or swallow, or bleach their hair sends a clear message to all women that they should not even bother to try to be heard here.
C&L a place for liberals to discuss topics? I think NOT. Hypocrites and frat-boys, sure. But ISN'T THIS WHAT YOU ARE PURPORTEDLY AGAINST??!!!
What DO you stand for, anyway?
why would you, in defending women's rights bring up their clothes ("...neither of whom is...wearing provocative clothing...)? It implies that had they been wearing 'provocative clothing' that the trash talk you object to would have been ok by you.
Intention: Great.
Execution: Not So Great.
Here's a noodle-scratcher:
How does one argue that racial profiling doesn't exist or is not a problem
By claiming reverse racial profiling?
So the above comment is okay, but "racist comments" are automatically deleted? What is the deal? I don't GET it.
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I hate both those women, but was anything Coulter said false? Check Dept. of Justice stats, blacks shoot and kill a far greater percentage of people than their ratio in the overall population would suggest.
that facts should actually assist in our view of the issues at hand.
Somebody mentioned that Michelle Malkin often describes Progressives as "hate-filled libs".
Going by the comments on this thread, her statement gains traction for the opposition.
Hers or ours?
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSaDdXNmYys
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