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Sen. John McCain believes that President Barack Obama must drop his support for a public insurance option before Republicans will consider supporting reform. "I believe that one of the fundamentals for any agreement would be that the president abandon the government option," McCain told ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

McCain defended Sarah Palin for claiming that Obama's health care goals include "death panels." McCain argued that "the way that [that clause] was written made it a little ambiguous."

"There was a provision in the bill that talks about a board that would decide what are the most effective measures to provide health care for people, okay?" McCain explained. "So what does that lead to? Doesn't that lead to a possibility of rationing?"

McCain went on to say that Sen. Edward Kennedy's absence from the Senate is damaging prospects for health care reform. McCain said that the Senate would be a "very different place today" if Kennedy were participating.



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from McFuckKnuckle?

the msm also pulled out LIEberman, too. there must be a fire sale on bullshit.

Have done their damage using the blue dog republicans to destroy single tax payer or a public option..

The hens are now coming out to crow...

That's is what I say, why is this fuckhole stinking up the place?

Fly boy says we must appease him, Salomi, Baloney!

Ya, like we're going to drop the public option just because we must to save Mr. McCain and what's left of his dismal career and his dismal party.
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perhaps mcfuckhead is willing to drop his
free public option health care paid by all of
us and better yet, he could do us all a service
and just drop dead, spewing bs is stressful, or
does he not know that?

And I always thought assholes who embarrass their party by losing an all important Presidential election usually go on a guilt/anger saturated hiatus.

McCain defended Sarah Palin for claiming that Obama's health care goals include "death panels." McCain argued that "the way [that clause] was written made it a little ambiguous."

Senator, everything seems more than a little ambiguous to Sarah Palin.

Also Senator McCain, please stop with the GOP crocodile tear mantra of "we just want to be heard." Your party is being heard loud and clear . . . No to everything from President Obama.

Along with the blue dogs, this amounts to "if we don't get out the talking points of our donors, they might not give us so much the next time!"

Is drop this sorry old bastard along with all the other old republican bastards from our government!
republicanism is a mental illness!

How about the MSM drop having this useless loser, whose views the American people soundly repudiated almost a year ago, yapping meaninglessly on their shows all the time?

can't get over the fact that the republicans lost. They continue to have more right wingers than progressives who always have a negattive view on what the democratic progressives try to do. Every day I get more disgusted with them. If it was just rightwing talk radio and Fox, I could tolerate it a little more but when it is all of the MSM, I get more disgusted.

the media owners hate the truth and they have old reliable McCaeiount and LIEberman to trot out like they did today.

thinks the blogers don't fact check. Well Tweety, how's my comment for fact? Fact check how many rightwingers are on your show compared to progreesives.

I thought he was taking them all on a rafting trip.

why don't we 'drop McCain'!!!!!!!!!!!

)O(

Isn't it time for mcgramps to hook up with another woman half his age

Like Grandma Moses?

He did help building the ark you know.

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Screw this old fart and the horse he rode to the Grand Canyon on.

so shut up and get off MY lawn!

This from a man who has been covered by government provided health insurance his entire fucking life! First, as the son of an enlisted man, then as an enlisted man himself, then as a veteran, and now as a U.S. Senator. It's good enough for him, but not for the huddled masses.

Actually he was an officer and son of an officer, to be more accurate. I get your meaning, though, they both did enlist.
Technically though, enlisted personnel are non-officers.

not change the fact that he is a hypocrite.

and much more

for setting me straight on that.

McStain did not make the grade to become Admiral, then further disappointed Dad by getting captured and then sucking up to his captors in fromt of the entire world.

Dad

and Granddad. McCain III is a major disappointment.

entire life!!!!!! A M E N

McCain is a yutz...if I may say that here. Unless that's a slam against yutzes!

a yutz?

)O(
)O(

What is the fast food industry's stance on health care reform?

I seem to recall some discussion about imposing a sin tax on "junk food."

And when you have large numbers of teenagers and twenty something already with diabetes, high cholesterol, heart conditions, arthritis, and even going deaf...where in for some deep doo-doo.

but them. they won't be able to hear the repugs pulling the plug on their life support machines.

Last November. Enough "news" from this miserable cretin.

If the country would just do the opposite of everything McCain advocates, we would be in better shape.

Every time she puts in her two cents on anything, she reinforces how screwed this country would be if the fighter pilot would have won the election. I do not blindly stand behind President Obama. But I feel that he can be a start in the progression of a better future of this country.

"Sen. John McCain believes that President Barack Obama must drop his support for a public insurance option before Republicans will consider supporting reform."

Which is exactly why we should do this WITHOUT GOP support. The bipartisan talk is over, and the GOP has shown time and again that they are not interested in it.

The GOP still talks about it, though they have already said they have no interest in it.

Now if we could just get the Democrats (especially the head of their party) to stop talking about it, as it's obviously going nowhere.

It is like listening to your kids wanting to stay up late the night before the first day of school. You just ignore them. BTW,,, tomorrow is the first day of school for the kids here in my part of Florida.

McCain : American Middle and Lower Class :: $5 Crack Whore's Pimp : (??)

Fill in the blanks, Kids! You can color all the money around McCain and the Pimp bright green!

Color the Americans and your answer pale, sickly and broke.

Write this in the balloon over McCain's head:

"Oh, look! Here comes another customer! Get up and get to work, Americans! Lips together, teeth apart!"

Funny but true.

Who cares what this angry demon thinks. He should resign and give his daughter a chance to run for his seat.

)O(

"Incest is best when kept in the family."

McCain's only legacy will be bringing Sarah Palin onto the national scene. The proof of his divisiveness is the fact that he will not renounce any of the stupidity that comes out of her mouth.

I wish McCain would have to live a year or two without health insurance. Although, it wouldn't matter now because Old As Dirt qualifies for medicare, so he's good to go.

Jerk.

His legacy is me wanting to jump out of a perfectly good flying airplane.

He did have great health care while donging out secrets to the Viet Cong with the long stick.

I have no respect and refuse to listen to the advice of anyone who thought Sarah Palin was ready to be vice president of the United States. If I were a Republican I would be pissed as hell to know that McCain thought she was the best the party had to offer.

They realize "death panel" was a shark jumping phrase so they erased that and use "rationing" now. Same idea but a saner word. Of course it's all bullshit, but what about the republican party right now isn't?

don't allow a progressive to rebut the lies but refuse to rebut the lies themselves.

I totally agree POP. Fuck McCain!

As if...

NOW, the Rs want ANY reform of the insurance industry. Never did, never will.

As if...

they didn't demonize Teddy K 24/7, but NOW that he's infirm, he's just what they need. BS!

As if...

he doesn't know how full of shit comparing end of life consultation with death panels rationing healthcare is.

Let me be clear. FUCK JOHN MC CAIN!!!

How about the death panel convened for Terry Schiavo? Let's keep government out of our lives,,, right.

Obama doesn't MUST have to do anything

He's the president

And you're a loser.

)O(

It's amazing that a guy who made boosh look like a good pilot

Who cooperates with the enemy

Who divorced his sick wife after she waited for him for years to return from the military

To marry a rich woman young enough to be his daughter, and basing his political runs on her money

Made from America's vice with beer

Is gonna tell a duly elected president to ignore the desires of the public they're supposed to represent.

What a pathetic example of a human being. He has had "the public option" all his life since birth. His father was in the military as were his grand father. They have always had socialized medicine, but now he does not want other to have the same benefit. He needs to retire, his brain is as dead as his heart.

)O(

Actually I think military health care could be considered single-payer.

I'm not sure about FEHB plans, but they are at the least public-option.

He ran for president knowing that he was born outside teh USA. Birth certificate indeed. And if his head with its brain inside is in the place I think it is,,, he will have rectal cancer soon enough.

The fact that this puke still walks the earth is a credit to government health care...from the care he received in the military, to the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's received in VA (government) health care and cash benefits, to medicare and onward to the government provided health insurance benefits he receives as a living member of congress.

If you ever find a more ungrateful and more hypocritcal prick than McCain, I'd like to meet him because I don't think one exists.

You forgot the fact that he owes the North Vietnamese for his existence too. The health care he got from them must be good too.

I am so sick of concern troll McCain and the fawning attention the sunday shows give him. Did anyone give a damn what Gore or Kerry had to say after their losses? McCain sold his soul during the Bush years and has nothing to say worth hearing.

I would support Federal legislation requiring McCain to begin every one of his sentences with, "Although a recent referendum of the American people decisively refuted me on this point..."

"So what does that lead to? Doesn't that lead to a possibility of rationing?"

I've got news for you, Senator. We have rationing NOW. If you were anywhere close to the real world at all, you'd know that. But because you've spent the last 70+ years with a silver spoon up your ass, you have no idea how much health care costs and how many people are struggling for access to it. Dumbass.

THE CONSERVATIVES, the right wing,the republicans did not win the election, they lost, mcCain lost and he lost big time. both houses lost and lost big time. yet they continue to dictate what needs to be done according to republican dictum and the dems put their tail between their legs and continue to say yes massah. it's time to stand up...for something, for anything. at least the scummy republican party continues with its scummy agenda, while the dems stand for nothing. will obama play the middle of the road apologist right to his demise, or will he too finally stand for something. it's really time to stand up to them. i refuse tro be behind pelosi and reid. yellow cowards that they are.

You are so correct. I too am over this "let's get along BS" It is time to say to those opposed to step aside. Now I myself am wanting for single-payer,,, but am willing for this reform issue hoping that it will lead to better things in the future. It is now time for those who want to make change to say,"This is my game,,, if you don't like it,,, then I am sure you ain't going to like this bat up your a@@!!!"

McCain and Leiberman ... corporately owned and operated.

and pathetic.

Regipizan Dead Enders.

Reverso-Zombies.

McCain and LIEberman, you may want out, but you don't know how to cut ties with the GOP crime family. Get protection. Get out, and save yourselves. Get out, and get on with your lives, before it's too late for you.

you were a dirtbag loser in school, you were a dirtbag loser in the military, you've been a dirtbag loser ever since except for what you're rich wife bought you. So sit down and SHUT THE F**K UP! No one cares what you think.

I think we should take away McCain's and Leiberman's publicly paid for health insurance until the rest of the population has the same benefits.

to function without their prescription drug altered brains. Oh wait, they don't function now.

Perfect hypocrisy coming from a guy who has benefited from a lifetime of public health care. It's good enough for him, which means it's too good for regular Americans.

he dropped a record number of planes from the sky... heck he almost dropped an entire aircraft carrier to the bottom of the China Sea.

He dropped his faithful wife, who stood by him during his ENTIRE captivity... to get a new better looking model.

He dropped the ball choosing the most unqualified running mate in recent American history.

So I understand that McCain is giving friendly advice from his position as drop meister...

)O(

When his drill instructor told him to drop and give him twenty, he asked if he had change for a hundred.

often in Annapolis, that may explain why he dropped to the bottom of his graduating class at Navy.

I am still surprised that with such bad graduating standing he got to be an aviator, even with the family pulling all those strings. I am actually mortified that at some point, both McCain and Bush were flying planes.

be the reason we lost in Viet Nam? Just saying.

Who says we lost?

It depends on what the goal was. Military budget went up. GE and Lockheed's stock went up. Nixon got re-elected.

Sure "we" lost, but it depends on which "we" you're talking about. If "we" wanted to win, "we" should have left in 1963.

he did put us in a bad worldview position by confessing to bombing civilians.

The dead and maimed civilians were kind of evidence already, yes?

)O(

My understanding was with his record, both performance and academic, he was unqualified for aviation school.

McCain's qualifications far exceeded those of GW Bush!

... I thought only the very top graduating peeps in each navy class get to have their first choice of service considered, aviator positions being the most competitive. In fact, the selection process for flying personnel in navy is even more competitive since they have to land a plane on a wobbling post stamp in the middle of the ocean. To the point that it doesn't matter how many strings you pull out, it becomes a matter of safety... to make sure you only put the people qualified enough behind the controls of a jet on an aircraft carrier.

McCain somehow managed to bypass hundreds of people in the waiting list, and he crashed enough jets that under normal conditions he would have been grounded. I think his track record is one jet per year of flying career. In fact, he continued flying even after his plane literally caused one of the worst (if not the worst) accident in US navy history. The Vietnamese seemed to actually have done us a favor by permanently grounding McCain.

I find fascinating this jackass got to have a career at all. Never mind he almost became president of the USA.

Speaking of flyboys, my brother was organizing my dad's archives.... and he actually found a pic of my old man with Rumsfeld in the 70s. My father was one of the SAC PI's for the B1 program. I think it was taken in Edwards. Weren't you deployed there YS?

Didn't he bring down enough planes to qualify as an Ace?

Just because they were your planes shouldn't disqualify him, details like that are for the sons of not-admirals.

)O(

Indeed...
Sun, 08/23/2009 - 14:17 — Tyler Durden
___________________________________________________

p>1978--1982.

I met Goldie Hawn while working as an extra on Private Benjamin.

Do tell...

:P

)O(

Most of the extras were Army, some Marines, but I was in the scene where one of the girl soldiers was caught with an officer and ran out topless (but with her hands over her naughty bits). We were just supposed to howl and scream like we were horny.

And some of the survival training scenes, where the major's troops are captured by Goldie's.

You really can't see much of any of us in the background.

But when we had to march in formation down a small hill, I was so unused to having a backpack (even packed with styrofoam), and an M-16 while marching, with our pants bloused over the tops of our boots with straps, that I lost my balance and skidded down.

They had to reshoot the scene and I felt stupid that it came to that, but would probably stop it before I came to that hill again. Well, they kept shooting, and I got all the way to the hill, and I was prepared to step over it again when they yelled cut. The had the whole sequence, but out of order.

The grunts were later making fun of me. They claim I did it on purpose. I showed them my torn up palms from where I tried to brake myself on the way down. I then found out Hal Williams (Goldie's drill sergeant), was on the camera platform with the cameraman, and he had tapped the guy's shoulder to film me skidding down.

It either ended up on the cutting room floor, because the scene was supposed to be of sharper troops, or they couldn't use it elsewhere except maybe as a larf at the wrap party.

Good one.

He makes Jackie Smith(super bowl XIII) a hero.

i will not fall for this warm/compassionate bullshxt. the "death panel" interpretation was a strategy. the
right know it's deception. the "public option" has to happen otherwise more damage is going to be done. health care insurance cos. don't want competition. this is much more than health care cost. the (r)
are concerned the (d)'s, specifically obama will have long favorable legacy unlike bush. they're concerned the "public option" will be effective.

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Dear Senator McCain,
Why do you think 50 million Americans DO NOT deserve affordable health care?

If you are afraid of ambiguously misleading "DEATH PANELS" then you should be against the status quo, where pencil pushers in cubicles in some gawd forgotten building are making decisions IF the company they work for will cover life saving treatments. Because that's your "death panel" that "rations" care based on how much THEY can profit.

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since i don't watch these shows, did the idiot that interviewed mccain ask him about the fact that he's had govt. health ins. his whole life?

I'm sure that if Obama dropped the public option, Olympia Snowe might consider revising her position from "hell no" to simply "no". Who does McCain think he's kidding. Not a single Repube will vote for health insurance reform. Certainly not more than two in the senate. Does he think that's bipartisan?

Who are we going to get to cross? Cornyn? Crapo? Kyl? Inhofe? The Republicans in the Senate are overwhelmingly mouth-breathers.

At least the bathroom is where I keep the band-aids. Just saying!

Well, Old John, I give you the public option already in operation here in the US:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/22/opinion/22d...

But if the public option is dropped, there's no point at all in health insurance reform -- take away the proposed public option in the proposed legislation, and there's nothing that would require anything substantial regarding coverage for the uninsured at affordable rates. And if the insurance companies don't have the competition of a low-cost government plan, they'll keep their profits sky-high with citizens paying for it. It will be an utter waste of Congress's time.

is not competition the backbone of capitalism. Seems very unusual for those spouting the right of a free market to decry competitors. After all,,, big business got NAFTA, CAFTA,,,,and we got SHAFTA

)O(

Why is it that so many conservatives who didn't care whether mcgramp's military record was ever unsealed or not

Insist on Obama birth certificate?

Are you suggesting there is a reason besides the obvious?

Probably those conservatives are reacting to a combination of what Jeebus tells them and Obama's somewhat darker hue.

How about GWB's driving record or his DD214(may need help on the one as I believe that form outlines one's service in the military)

Weird how Republicans can't tell the difference between the two and continuously attempt to compare them. Ubber FAIL.

)O(

And his being a war "hero" should've been first and foremost on our minds and deserving of our respect

But not John Kerry or Max McClelland?

Bill Clinton, er... blow job... CLENIS!!!!

Because I did,,,, explain to me what exactly did Ron Reagan do in the military?

Or Capt. Max Cleland , A patriot in the truest definition

Sounded like he said "sexability."

)O(

Sounds like a new hit song for Prince.

You can buy it. Sold in the men's public restroom at any major airport. Can you stance it!

)O(

And why didn't ann colter accuse the supporters of mcgramps/palin of being jock and

Or

Panty shield sniffers?

)O(

Well I'm off to do my recycling

Swim

And get a haircut

Because that's all I have left

A hair.

And after all this time no one posted/asked to the location of said hair? Not trying to flame you up over it,,,, but it did make me smile. Hope it did the same. Made me LOL

How about if we just drop Johnny and the GOP instead of the public option? Why do we even need to have a conversation with these rebranded Whigs? Better to get rid of public enemies like the GOP than a public option that would help 47 million Americans.

a public option could help a lot more than the 47 million without health insurance. There are millions more that are paying excessive premiums for the coverage they have. The savings could spur the economy which woould help more than 300 million.

Right now,,, my wife's employee sponsored health care provider has changed again. Of course, less coverage,,, more $$$$. A few years ago,,,my doctor took the provider for a ride. ordered two tests that out my pocket cost of 200 dollars. He and the others in on the swindle billed Blue Cross to the tune of over 15k. Then they say,,, its all good..... see you in six months.

So I am for public option,,,, but really wanting medi-care for all. Give me what these congress people get.

Good points---thanks.

(quote from Robin Hood: Men in Tights)

Fuck John McCain, he lost any credibility he had in the last election, and the sane people of this country are not interested in what he has to say. Certainly not me!

I can speak with a veteran's accent!

*

I can inflect my voice to sound like Paul Hogan,,, and Hulk Hogan too.

McCain hardly stood a chance against Obama in the election last year. The GOP is in such turmoil, and their only solidity is their white evangelical Christian base, as well as many of those red-staters in 2008 (of course, not all those who voted for McCain necessarily think that "Obama is Hitler"). - Like Bill Maher said, "not all racists are Republican, but if one is racist, he is probably a Republican."

Even the racists are disgusted with the GOP, they're just as likely to vote independent or libertarian.

Sign of the times I guess.

I know even Limbaugh was dissatisfied with the GOP nominee, so I wonder if he really voted this past election. Probably wouldn't really matter to the rest of us, though.

Must have not gotten the memo. Please forward it to me,,,, you now,,, the one that says Hitler=black

is pronounced "Kay-no"

We already know where you maverickly stand, thank you very much. By the way, Fuck you John McCain!

Eh?

Mr. Magoo lost because,

George W. Bush's vacation time (grand total):
487 days at Camp David
490 days at Crawford Ranch
43 days at Kennebunkport Compound
Total: 1020 days, more than 1/3rd of his presidency.
Bush set the record for most vacation time taken by president.
- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/11/pol...

Now STFU, Magoo.

Bill Maher said on Real Time last Fri. that Bush had been on vacation 8 years of his presidency.

Bush has been on vacation since he was born on third base and thought he hit a home run!

-Thanks, Ann Richards.

Grampy McClueless doesn't seem to under stand that single-payer plans really do work such as in Canada, Europe, Japan, etc.

As for the overall health care front thus far, why doesn't the American public vote on whether to have either a single-payer health plan or public option? After all, the American public can vote on whether to allow or disallow gay marriage.

More snippets from McCain:

"Our economy, I think, is still -- the fundamentals of our economy are strong." --Jacksonville, Fla., Sept. 15, 2008

"I might have to rely on a vice president that I select’ for expertise on economic issues." --GOP debate, Nov. 28, 2007

"I think she's most qualified of any that has run recently for vice president, tell you the truth." --on Sarah Palin, interview with Don Imus, Oct. 22, 2008

"She needed the clothes." --explaining to reporters why the RNC spent $150,000 on clothes and accessories for Sarah Palin and her family, Florida, Oct. 23, 2008

"I think -- I'll have my staff get to you. It's condominiums where -- I'll have them get to you." --after being asked how many houses he and his wife, Cindy, own, interview with Politico, Las Cruces, N.M., Aug. 20, 2008

All of which brings up the question: why would anyone even listen to this idiot?

McCain has a lot of bad judgment like when he said "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" on the same day the market lost over 500 points. He also probably made the worst VP pick ever, perhaps worse than Al Gore's VP pick in 2000.

If lindbergh/edison/mark twain/jefferson,,,, heck,,, george jefferson would have picked Al Gore as VP, Mccain would be president.

And I say that with love.

In the infinite words of Michael Palin:

SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB YOU TIT!

he lost.

Oh, right, I guess he did. You wouldn't know it, from all the face time he gets.

won?

My questions for McCain :

The Commonwealth Fund estimates that average health care premiums will rise 94% over the next decade, if there is nothing done.

How can this be good for the average person, employer, or the economy?



If we insure the uninsured, and they go right into the private insurance companies' rolls, if there is no competitive deterrent, how will the Commonwealth Fund estimates not be true, in fact, not be too conservative?

Would you support removing the exception to the anti-trust laws that these insurance companies currently enjoy?



If there is no effective competitor within the insurance framework (i.e., public option), would you favor oversight legislation that would et and cap insurance company profits at a yearly level that would guarantee their viability but would slow down these increases?

... told his wife: "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you ****." Whose only claim to fame is having destroyed 4 Navy fighter planes, costing several $millions each, being involved, arguably caused, the death of some 134 sailors on board of the Forestal aircraft carrier, causing many more $millions in damages, shortly thereafter got himself shot down over Vietnam, did not conform to the military code of conduct securing for himself special treatment including a reported, unconfirmed, offer to be released.

Why in the f#&k are we listening to this clown?

The repugs' interpretation of 'bi-partisanship' appears to be stripping Health Insurance Reform of the single, most important component to make it work.

The hell with the repugs! Go it alone, and if necessary fly in Kennedy and Byrd, even if on a stretcher.

To bring on the big dog. Hillary can fume from the outside. What has she done lately? Bring on Bill to frame out this cause. He is the political giant right now. President Obama is cognizant that he is no match for Bill Clinton. He should be so lucky to have him on his side. I am curious as to why it is Hillary and not Bill being Sect. of State. The dog would also be able to get some repubs on board too.

What will it take for America to realize that health care reform isn't (necessarily) socialism?

... the concept of Medicare is 'social' and is one of several of the most successful programs run by the government.
Health Insurance Reform seeks to expand the program to allow anyone to join - the operative word is 'allow', not 'force' - the program.

The claim that the system is broke, as Ron Paul keeps trumpeting, is due to the fact that:

"... the Treasury uses the surplus Medicare Hospital Insurance revenue to pay down the debt. If the federal budget outside these trust funds is in deficit, the Treasury uses the surplus revenues to help fund general government operations." Link

that the General Fund has been siphoning off Medicare surpluses for many years and should be returned, and if Medicare deductions rose at the same level as private insurance premiums, Medicare would be opulently swimmng in dough.

Traitor Joe stabbing Obama in the back by attempting to stall to kill health care reform.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090823/ap_on_go_...

This fucker thrusted Sarah Palin upon America. Hasn't he done enough damage?

Ken Starr has done more.

Amazing that Palin, as unintelligible as she is, was a heartbeat away from being POTUS! We should thank God that not only did McCain not become POTUS, but Palin didn't succeed him...I don't know what Palin has done good for this country, but she doesn't deserve our attention, and given all these sentiments by her, Limbaugh, Beck, et al., the GOP should be on the verge of going out of relevance and existance. Mike Papantonio said that the more the right wing point-talkers spew their misinformation, the more irrelevent they become. So, the question then is, are progressives the new "great silent majority"? If so, Nixon would be self-pitied in his grave for coining the phrase "great silent majority."

This is what can be found regarding her IQ: http://cousinavi.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/...

To him. Why!!! He lost in a landslide. Why does the MSM give him any credence. The MSM is losing its creds by the day. The sunday newspaper cannot even be curled up and swat a fly with anymore. Have to save up a few weeks worth to kine the birdcage with now.

beyond hypocrisy, beneath contempt.

More proof (if proof were ever needed) that the right man won the election last time around.

Get out of the Way!

It is clear they won't lead, they are now making it clear they won't follow. Time for them to get the bleep out of the way.

/it's a military thing
//though I hear he was bad at it then too

John McCain,,,, the ONLY reason to jump out of a perfectly running aircraft. Parachute optional.

I don't care what Mr. plane crasher has to say. In fact, whatever he says, there's a 95% chance he is flat wrong - that's his record!

Screw Mr. McCain and the boat he came over on!

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