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Bill O'Reilly caught a really bad case of selective amnesia on his show this Monday night, when he pretended he didn't have any idea that his fellow host at Fox had gone on the air, not once, but at least three times, blaming the shooting at the elementary school in Newtown, CT on the "removal of god" from our schools.

Bill-O had his regular guest, flame thrower Bernard Goldberg on and the two of them were very quick to attack MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell for supposedly politicizing the shooting because she dared to talk about the fact that maybe we should have some reasonable gun laws in the United States. But when Goldberg actually criticized Fox for doing the same thing and politicizing the attack to suit an agenda, and without calling out Huckabee by name, slammed him for his remarks about school prayer, O'Reilly decided to act like he didn't have a clue as to what Goldberg was talking about.

If O'Reilly needs a refresher as to Huckabee's remarks, someone can tell him to go watch what he said here and here. As much as O'Reilly hates but follows Media Matters, who have had this on their front page for days now, I don't think there's a chance in hell he didn't know about what HuckaJesus said.

Here's your "fair and balanced" discussion on Fox. Goldberg with false equivalencies and Bill-O pretending he doesn't know about the hackery from the religious wingnut on his own network.

And if anyone needed any more proof that Huckabee is a blathering idiot, go read this article from this past April: Gunman Kills 7 in a Rampage at a Northern California University.



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It looks like Mike Huckabee isn't too happy about all the grief he got for his comments the previous day on Fox, about the tragic shooting at the elementary school in Connecticut, because he came back on the next morning on Fox & Friends and tried to walk them back, at least in part.

Huckabee Tries To Walk Back Comments On God And School Shootings:

On Fox & Friends Saturday, he attempted to clarify his comments, saying, "Yesterday, I was on Neil Cavuto. He asked me, you know, where was God? I said, you know, we've systematically removed him from our culture, from our schools. Well, I've been barraged by people who have said that I said, well, if we just have prayer in schools, this wouldn't happen. That's not my point."

Huckabee continued:

HUCKABEE: No, my point is a larger point -- that we have as a culture decided that we don't want to have values, that we don't want to say that some things are always right, some things are always wrong. When we divorce ourselves from a basic sense of what we would call, I would say, collective morality where we agree on certain principles to be true always, then we create a culture -- not that it specifically creates this crime. It doesn't. But it creates an atmosphere in which evil and violence are removed from our sense of responsibility.

Yet while Huckabee now claims that his initial point wasn't that "if we just have prayer in schools, this wouldn't happen," Huckabee told Cavuto on Friday, "We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage?" Huckabee concluded his remarks by saying, "Maybe we ought to let [God] in on the front end and we wouldn't have to call him to show up when it's all said and done at the back end."

As Huckabee acknowledged on Fox & Friends Saturday, his remarks have drawn much attention from the media.

I don't think he did himself any favors here. And of course, he's insisting that now isn't the time to talk about gun control... or tomorrow.... or any time this week. We'll do that later, which means never. But of course it's not too soon for him to spend his entire upcoming show this Saturday night talking about the tragedy and how to talk to your children about it.

UPDATE: And if anyone didn't think HuckaJesus could amp the amount of crazy up any higher, here he is on his Saturday show on Fox, first attacking the liberals for daring to point out that he did indeed say lack of prayer in schools was responsible for this shooting, and then going into some bizarre rant about their fake war on Christmas and those supposed abortion loving liberals.

Then he brings in Geraldo who gives the viewers a disgusting blow by blow of how many times those poor children were shot, agrees with Huckabee that it's "evil" as opposed to say, mental illness that's responsible for what happened, and then compares the tragedy to the Holocaust.

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What's really frightening is that Huckabee has been discussed by our media as someone to take seriously as a contender for the presidency. He'd be getting way too much air time if he was only allowed to pollute our airways on late night infomercials at 3am on channels almost no one watches.



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Leave it to Fox's Mike Huckabee to use this tragic shooting in Connecticut to blame those who would like to maintain the separation of church and state as somehow being responsible for the actions of this shooter. Here he is on Cavuto's show on Fox, first pushing the NRA's talking points that there aren't any laws that could be passed to prevent something like this from happening, and then this hackery:

Huckabee: Schools "Become A Place Of Carnage" When "We Systematically Remove God":

HUCKABEE: Ultimately, you can take away every gun in America and somebody will use a bomb. When somebody has an intent to do incredible damage, they’re going to find a way to do it… People will want to pass new laws, but unless you change people’s hearts, they’re our transition to the pastor side. This is a heart issue, it’s not something, laws don’t change this kind of thing.

CAVUTO: You know, invariably, people ask after tragedies like this, "How could God let this happen?"

HUCKABEE: Well, you know, it's an interesting thing. We ask why there is violence in our schools but we have systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage? Because we've made it a place where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability -- that we're not just going to have be accountable to the police if they catch us, but one day we stand before, you know, a holy God in judgment. If we don't believe that, then we don't fear that. And so I sometimes, when people say, why did God let it happen. You know, God wasn't armed. He didn't go to the school. But God will be there in the form of a lot people with hugs and with therapy and a whole lot of ways in which I think he will be involved in the aftermath. Maybe we ought to let him in on the front end and we wouldn't have to call him to show up when it's all said and done at the back end.



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As president, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) says he would fight for a constitutional amendment to allow prayer in schools.

In an ad released last week, Perry declared that President Barack Obama was waging a "war on religion" because gays are allowed to serve openly in the military and children aren't allowed to pray in schools.

"It was the Supreme Court, back in 1962, that decided -- and it's been upheld since then -- that children couldn't pray in school," Fox News host Chris Wallace told Perry Sunday. "Barack Obama had nothing to do with that."

"I would support a constitutional amendment that allows children to pray in school anytime that they would like," Perry declared. "I happen to believe that ought be a local decision, and that's not the Supreme Court's business to be telling Americans when and how they should pray."

"On the issue of Don't Ask, Don't Tell: It was working, and for the Commander-in-Chief to use our military as a political tool while we're in combat in two different locations around the world -- at least two different locations around the world in Iraq and Afghanistan -- I just think it's really irresponsible. ... I think [the lifting of DADT] is bad public policy and I would change it."

Wallace noted that the ban on prayer in schools had continued under both Republican and Democratic Presidents.

"I'm telling you what I believe, Chris," Perry replied. "Americans don't agree with that decision that was made in 1962, and if we have a constitutional amendment election across this country allowing our children to pray in school, I will suggest to you it will pass overwhelmingly. And I'll support that. I will go across this country, as I am promoting a balanced budget amendment to the United States Constitution, I will work on a balanced -- or I should say an amendment to allow our children to pray in school."