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You have to wonder what Karl Rove is up to with these offhand remarks so damaging to Republican candidates. Without a doubt there's no love lost between the groups Perry represents and those that Rove represents, but there's more at work here than that. Rove is not simply a political commentator, but a player himself in the Republican sweepstakes.

See what you make of this from this morning:

GEORGE STEPHANPOLOUS: And a lot of questions about how how Rick Perry will handle this test. So much talk about his books and what he’s written in his books, “Fed Up!” Questioning the 16th Amendment, which imposed the income tax. The 17th Amendment, direct election of Senators. And I think he’s gotten the most attention for what he said about Social Security, calling it a Ponzi scheme. Compares it to a “bad disease” that’s been “imposed on us for 70 years.” You know how much trouble that can be for a Republican candidate in a general election. So how does he handle it and must he disavow some of these statements in the book.

KARL ROVE: What they’ve done thus far is, I think, inadequate. Which is to basically say, “look, we didn’t write the book with the presidential campaign in mind.” Well, okay, fine. But they are going to have to find a way to deal with these things. Because, as you say, they are toxic in a general election environment and they are also toxic in a Republican primary. If you say Social Security is a failure and ought to be replaced by a state-level program, then people are going to say: “What do you mean by that?” And make a judgment based on your answer to it. Each candidate has strengths. Each candidate also has challenges. This, for Governor Perry is his challenge. Now he’s got formidable strengths. But this is his biggest challenge.

Note that George Stephanopoulos didn't use the word 'toxic', he used the phrase "trouble...for a Republican candidate in a general election." Karl Rove offered the much stronger, more loaded term 'toxic'. And without a doubt this was intentional too. Rove seems to be doing his part to keep the whisper campaign going that Rick Perry is simply unelectable running for President. And if this were a rational electorate he'd probably be right. But Rove knows full well that all Rick Perry has to do is pass through the completely insane Republican primary system to become legitimatized. That is, taken seriously by the mainstream media, no matter how crazy and destructive his ideas are.

UPDATE: John Amato:

Karl Rove is part of the right-wing Village and they all want Mitt Romney to be the candidate running against Obama because they believe he has the best chance to win so they have been attacking all the tea party candidates during the primary season. That's my humble opinion, of course.

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Nangleator's picture

It's a topsy-turvy world that squeezes an iota of truth out of the turd blossom.

RoccoRyg's picture

Ol' Turdblossom knows better than anyone that candidates that are too far to the right, and here's the important part, not afraid to show it, will be called losers after the elections. He saw all those "mama grizzlies" go down in defeat last year and doesn't want it to happen again.


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mikerush's picture

when he crossed the Kingmaker. Rove is out for Perry's blood and he'll do everything in his considerable power to get it. Rove's biggest problem, though, is that there isn't a single viable republiscum candidate worthy of his blessing. I'm hoping that KKKarl will have to spend this election season sitting on the sidelines at FauxSpews.

RonDumsfeld's picture

Perhaps he's laying the groundwork for a late entry into the race by Jeb.

RayC's picture

All he has to do is say something to the effect of: by cutting the cola, privatising the trust fund, and raising the retirement age, strengthens Social Security, that's what I mean, I want Social Security around you your and my grand children. The idiots on the right will eat that up and it will not be an issue for the beltway media to concern themselves over. On the other hand if someone on the left were to say something half as toxic, the press would never stop repeating it.

Astro's picture

Toxic it may be, but killing SS has been a conservative wet dream for decades now. Karl's man W said the biggest regret of his presidency was that he failed to privatize it.

ohkay's picture

Rove knows that if Perry wins, Perry's people will have their hands on the money, and Rove will be much less of a player. Rove wants to stay in the center of power. He wants HIS puppet up front.

This is kind of funny!

Uhm, Karl, an I wrong or didn't your Butt-boy Bitch Bush didn't have the same position?

Karl Rove has done about as much damage to America as any foreign agent, spy, or provacatuer, via any politician supported by him.

He should have been busy for the last few years 'Lawyering-up" along with Little Boots, Darth Cheney, Rummie, Condi, Gonzo, and the rest of the all day zoo team from the bar-room scene from "Star Wars," instead of giving his jowly opinions on news shows.

Not enough bad shit can ever happen to this fucking worthless piece of shitblossom shit, and , sadly, not enough ever will.

Fuck him and his shitty God-damned fucking shitty soul to fucking shitty Hell, everlasting!

Mugsy's picture

You are correct, John.

While the Right absolutely DESPISES Romney, they hate losing even more. These same people would rush to Obama's defense if he were the GOP nominee.

But, I'd add, the bad blood between Rove and Perry is genuine. Perry was still a Democrat when he was first elected Lt. Gov under Bush, and they hated him. When he switched Parties, it was viewed as "opportunistic" just to win re-election.


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scarce's picture

Perry left the Democrats in 1989. He became Lt. Gov in 1998 as a Republican. During that time there was a 'falling out' between Rove and Perry which seems to have lasted to this day.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/596...

Rich H's picture

This guy needs to be in jail.

Samson-'s picture

guess what karl, so are you

put your fat face out there representin' any of the GOP thuggies in '12 and see how the public responds

karl 'toxic shock' rove

ikalbertus's picture

He'll never again get another candidate like W. Compliant, stupid, congenial on cue, pumped full of Jesus, seemingly moderate and ignorant of the ways of Washington. A once in a lifetime gift, Karl and now you have to live with the batshit crazy neighbors next door.

ckerstann's picture

I t could be that Perry stole Rove's lover.

Different Anonymous's picture
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What has Jeff Gannon/Guckert been up to lately?

That Rove can even get the word "toxic" out of his diseased pie-hole proves there is no God. Still waitin' on karma, but there is no God.

:)

And don't worry about the karma thing because there is no god.

It is amazing that the right wing machine got away with the whole gay prostitute lobs softballs at the president at press conferences, gets outed, and no one figures out who was funding him. Wasn't it Talon News service or something like that? Good times.

he seems like another Bush, just more evil.

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