Liberty University bans Democrats
There's really not much to add to this story, so I'll let the video compilation and the links tell it. The video clips are from WSET in Lynchburg VA; Keith Olbermann picking Mark Hine as his #3 WPITW; and Rachel Maddow giving an overview and then an interview with Brian Diaz, president of the club.
You can sign their petition for reinstatement here.
Liberty University, the university founded by the late Christian evangelist Rev. Jerry Falwell, has revoked its recognition of the campus Democratic Party club, saying “we are unable to lend support to a club whose parent organization stands against the moral principles held by” the university, The News & Advance, of Lynchburg, Va., reports.
“It kind of happened out of nowhere,” said Brian Diaz, president of the student Democratic Party organization that the school had formally recognized in October.
Diaz, the paper reports, said he got the news May 15 in an e-mail from Mark Hine, vice president of student affairs.
The e-mail is included here:
From: Hine, Mark (VP Student Affairs)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:37 PM
Subject: LU College Democrats
I must inform you that the College democrats' club is no longer going to be recognized as a Liberty University club. We are unable to lend support to a club whose parent organization stands against the moral principles held by Liberty University.
--snip--
Even though this club may not support the more radical planks of the democratic party, the democratic party is still the parent organization of the club on campus. The Democratic Party Platform is contrary to the mission of LU and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the "LGBT" agenda, Hate Crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc).
if they're a private organization, and don't accept federal funds they can ban any group they wish.
But they'll take these democratic students money wont they. Plus they are tax exempt. Both points make it wrong and censorship. If they had any integrity then they should refuse to accept these kids and they're money and pay taxes to support America.
is intended to be a factual statement
Though I agree this is a formal move to block an opinion on a fundamental level is it any different than liberal professors and students trying to block any conservative opinion being expressed on campus. Fortunately, I went to a school with a fairly liberal academic staff and a fairly conservative student body. Because no opinion could win over the other what ensued was an actual conversation and if we wanted to we could get the professor on a diatribe and go to sleep. This nation is becoming more and more intolerant of opinions that aren't like their own. For example, I will undoubtedly be called a rich repugathug troll because I do not hold to the what I see as the ultra-liberal opinion being expressed on this blog.
Please give me one example of any university formally denying a conservative group university recognition, while simultaneously giving such recognition to a parallel liberal group.
Your refusal to recognize the difference between the university's official actions, and the actions taken by the "liberal professors and students" is the reason I have a problem with your statement.
Do you seriously not see it? How can you equate a student, professor, or group saying, "I don't like what they're saying, so I want you to make them stop," with the university saying, "We don't like what you're saying, so therefore you no longer exist." ?
The boy scouts do get Federal funds
the boy scouts used to but they decided it was more important to be homophobe bigots so they do without federal funds now.
liberty can do the same thing.
...they're accepting federal money. Ditto Pell Grants, and, of course, Federal research grants. Hillsdale, here in Michigan, is the only college or university that is completely privately funded, thus exempt from Federal discrimination guidelines.
However, those guidelines may only apply to racial, sexual and religious discrimination.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
This is religious discrimination. If they have students receiving federal or state grants, this "university" should be barred from receiving them along with any tax privileges they might also be enjoying.
bingo.
How is political affiliation religion?? Unless you really bought into the Obama as Messiah mumbo jumbo that was going around for a while.
By their own statement, the reason the club will no longer be recognized is a religious reason. They specifically mention the "Christian doctrine." I'm pretty sure Christianity is still considered a religion.
I would not go there and would not hire anyone that went there.
"Liberty" university has proven they are a joke. Anything started by that bigot Falwell is a joke. I feel sorry for the kids that go there.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Orwellian name that's for sure. That's what right wingers do, thye take words like "liberty", "patriot", "freedom" and turn it into the opposite of.
I can hear the screams if anybody forbid anything republican. The lack of noise on this subject is deafening. When so called Christians do these stunts it increases the sin exponentially. I am a democrat because I am a Christian. What part of Jesus Christ does the republican party and Liberty University participate? They are not the peace-keepers, nor the caretakers of the poor, prisoners, the elderly or children. They do not love God with all their being. They protect a fetus while killing children and adults, they steal like bank robbers, and defame all who are different. I am not surprised by LU actions, just sickened.
The Republican Party and Liberty University represent the fraudulent Christians who hide behind religion to accomplish their other goals. Since the dawn of man religion has been used as a truncheon. Christians have always been particularly guilty of this, always more so than other religions. Onward Christian soldiers.
Radix Omnium Malorum Avaritia
Jesus would support (according to LU):
Torture
Killing innocents (as long as they are Muslim)
Enriching the rich on the backs of the uninsured poor
I hate it when supposedly Christian entities try to politicize faith.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Treat you faith like your genitals: keep 'em zipped til somebody asks, nicely...
I was gonna say something like that, but ya beat me to it..
Right on sister!!!
The story I read yesterday said these students were expelled.
Is that false?
Watch the entire video clip.
Liberty Univ. expels campus Democrats
They're such a tolerant group.
I knew LU was pro-gluttony, but this is a new direction.
Does "Christian Doctrine" include the death penalty, preemptive war (war of any kind, actually), officially sanctioned torture and waterboarding?
Or has the Liberty University Republican Club repudiated these Godless secular practices? If not, why is the Republican Club in good standing with the university, but not the Democratic Club?
Just wondering.
by conventions that apply in publically funded institutions.
Nevertheless, and notwithstanding, if I were in the position to consider applicants for an academic program, say grad school (and I have been), and I saw some applicant's degree were from "Liberty Univeristy," I would find a reason to reject it, after this stunt.
From what I understand it isn't even accredited. So is a diploma from there even worth the paper it is printed on inside the accredited college system?
from wikipedia:
Liberty was founded in 1971 and received Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS) accreditation in 1980[8], which was mostly recently reaffirmed in 2006.[9] In addition, it was accredited by the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS) in September 1984, but resigned its TRACS accreditation on November 6, 2008.[10][11] Liberty has 60 accredited degree granting program.[12] The law school, which opened in 2003, gained provisional accreditation from the American Bar Association in 2006.[13]
Frankly, I think if they accept any gov't funds, they should be called on the carpet for this.
It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
-George Carlin
Close call. The "University" does not support individual political candidates, only their own skewed ideals. Were they to endorse any single Republican, then their non-profit status would be in jeopardy. As it is, they are a private institution, and as such, can recognize any group they want. The Democratic students were not expelled, only their right to use "Liberty" and "Democratic" in their club.
That's their right to do what they did. As for what they did in general... what a bunch of freek'n morons.
You I put a post up earlier about intolerance. The students are not responsible for a decision made by the administration. And maybe the person went to this school not because they are Falwellian christians but maybe because they needed the unique style of discipline the school enforces.
Republicans are using paid bloggers in an attempt to control the national debate toward their point of view.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/228...
Republicans attempting to control the national debate by influencing direction on certain blogs. One of them being Huffington Post.
More of the same old Republican ideas, now brought to you by paid bloggers.
n/c
...they "project" their own Judas-bought-and-paid-for sleaziness in their accusations of others they disagree with on any given blog.
They parrot their e-mail-instructed meme that these others are paid bloggers, servants of David Axelrod.
It's hilarious to read some of the remarks on conservative blogs. They talk about how full their e-mail "in" boxes get, with all the stuff Freep, Town Hall, and anyone else they sign up for etc. send them.
I can imagine there's a lot of duplicated messages, since the whole network is like a chain letter.
I wonder if these drones are doing this on company time, or they got caught and fired (as they should be) and are now depending on their Republican 30 pieces of silver to support themselves...
--do a lot of posting at Huff Po but funny thing is they are so obvious that most of the regular progressives do a real good job of swatting down their talking points. They may get paid for posting but they are NOT getting any traction in controlling debate.
on a blogger level, true. but politico article pointed to rnc and to gop office holders and policy drivers (incl grover) ...that they are and will use this blogging on Huff to get their ideas out and to drive the direction of the debate because corporate media checks in with this site and tpm as well. they cull items covered on blogs for use on their own news medium (paper/mag/show).... yet another instance of their echo chamber approach to "news coverage"
--c&l has a few commenter-operatives functioning on the distraction/misinformation agenda, it seems. most do not appear to have graduated from liberty u (yet) imo
These fools (Liberty University) are idiots. If they were smart they would let these students have their club and let them try to take the Democratic Party more to the right (not that they would be able to). In fact they would promote this club on a national level and get them exposure and hold them up as a group who want the Democrats to move more to the center. Instead they show how evil, stupid, intolerant, demon like, and ridiculous they are. Falwell would be proud.
These morons are nincompoops!
;D
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
As an "educational" institution that disallows a political group from exercising its power to organize on campus, does this not disqualify Liberty as a tax exempt religious organization? It sounds like they are now a wing of the Rethuglican party. If issues are their only concern, why can't their students try to change the Democratic party from the inside?
Candideinnc
ah! liberty university - that proud peacock of puritanical thought. you do your lord and master, falwell, great honor in furthering his teachings on intolerance and hatred.
so we are told that democrats are not allowed to assemble at liberty university given their immorality no doubt. this has led me to wonder as to what exactly constitutes a republican and consequently a righteous person
thats right - jesus taught that the republicans shall inherit the earth. so i set out to discover for myself such an one - these salt of the earth, these meek and gentle sheep.
1. the ends justify the means:
here we see bush and his disciples employing all necessary means to lie to the country in order to invade iraq. the goal was to remove sadam husein - the means mattered not - perfect christianity for as jesus taught: obeying the ten commandments is contingent upon the outcome.
2. to torture or not - republicans choose the former:
again you must remember that this is rather elementary to them and only those cowardly democrats shudder at such a thought. you must remember that jesus was tortured on the cross - the ultimate suffering for all of humanity - thus you can imagine the insignificance of being waterborded 183 times. just pathetic.
3. create the law as you go along:
here they follow that giant of true republican thought - the first true DICK (NIXON), sorry cheney but your the second. the original dick created laws in his own sleep - if he said it then it was law. those simpler times when the president could just overrule the constitution without even as much as a pause to ponder the import of his actions. so we have present republicans telling us that torture is not illegal though precedent says otherwise. why you might ask - well because george bush said it is not wrong, thats why.
4. if you have a little hate in your heart, let it out:
ah yes, is there a more angry and intolerant group of people than republicans - i often wonder how they could sustain such a level of anger. they hate gay people, the environment, science, minorities, immigrants, those with opposing views, feminists, labor and the list goes on and on. i remind you, these are the christian sort - they have perfect the art of hatred, in the name of the lord jesus christ, off course.
i can only imagine jesus right now addressing liberty university commencement - off course he will be about 350lbs, black shirt, black suit, hearing aid so as to communicate with his father who art in heaven - you know the hallowed one. angry to the teeth, racist, homophobic, sexist, islamophobic, arrogant, a drug addict, most likely addicted to porn, sweaty, bombastic: would you know it - jesus is rush limbaugh.
so there you have it sinful democrats - if saint limbaugh favors liberty university - well i can only imagine what hell holds for you. for surely limbaugh is the pre-eminent example of christian virtues. for as the saying goes: after jesus, what would limbaugh do - and the answer is he would ban the democratic party club from liberty and that is exactly what they did.
democrats - it is not too late to repent. what would limbaugh do - think on that ye sinners
Universities used to teach how to think and question.
Liberty teaches only how to obey and follow.
Democratic students of Liberty,
…what have you learned?
C'mon. To have your club accepted on campus, just follow some of the Republican Party principles:
-Have extra marital affairs
-Have multiple divorces
-Be an unwed teenager and get "knocked up" by the son of a meth head
-Solicit gay sex in airport bathrooms
-Be a war hawk and never actually join the military
A few things to remind the administration that you will promise to act more like Republicans.
The world sees the U.S. and shakes its head in dis-belief.
Afghanistan/Pakistan have the Taliban.
America has the Christian Evangelicals.
These people are insane.
and who is going to stop it! As long as they keep getting money (private or federal) they can do what ever they want, in the name of their god. Is that school better then another, these are close minds individuals with one purpose to raise carbon, copy like minded, droids.
Welcome to that HBO Army of God school!
In their panicked state of mind the more they thrash about the more they show their true colors - essentially fascist, ultimately un-American. Please stop attempting to take my country under your control. Not yours - can't have.
The Democratic Party Platform is contrary to the mission of LU and to Christian doctrine (supports abortion, federal funding of abortion, advocates repeal of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, promotes the "LGBT" agenda, Hate Crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity, socialism, etc).
Un. Be. Lievable.
Completely. Un. Be. Lievable.
And what intelligent human being would ever want to get a diploma on a dumb place like this? I would rather give a job to someone with hot dog sales experience than this stupid university.
Comparing these idiots to hot dog sellers insults hot dog sellers.
Can you imagine what would happen if a university banned the College Republicans? Can you even imagine the outcry we'd hear from every corner?
Threaten to take away their tax exempt status. Let's see how principled these pigs actually are. I expect they'll drop the issue if it means having less money.
Are you kidding me? Next they will change the last line of the pledge of allegiance to " liberty and justice for SOME"!
What the f*** is wrong with these people? Is this 1960? This is like something out of a time machine.
Another day goes by and I'm am dumbfounded at the pure ignorance of the religious population.
dont paint with such a broad brush
I'm not painting anyone.
I'm dumbfounded by news items of ignorant religious people.
Simple.
Why be dumbfounded? For religion to function it demands a lemming like behavior and a lack of curiosity or questioning on the part of it's believers. It maintains control through social peer pressure and expels those who publicly don't tow the line.
And for many it becomes a drug like an addiction.
In this environment slime is allowed to flourish. And otherwise intelligent people willfully follow.
I thought religious folk disliked painted hussies.
Until their wives slammed the park shut once they had enough for God and Pentagon.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Yup! the Anal Retentive Idiots strike again you are with us or you are against us . These MORONS with their book of Fairey Tales and their Hate Monger Policy (ies) again come to surface NOW can we START TAXING CHURCHES the Enemy of America.
liberty u shouldve lost its tax exempt status long ago
there are vids and documentation of students being organized by the university to stump for candidates and issues
now it should be a done deal
they can have their views....they just cant be tax exempt
bankrupt the wingnut cocksuckers
What I really hate about conservatives...
And I mean what REAALLLLYYYY gets me going. What really just takes that last nerve and and gnaws on it like a coked-up beaver, is that you can mention this to a conservative and without batting an eye, they will tell you the republican party is more inclusive.
Only conservatives are able to set up a Christian college, you know, to promote Christianity, which is 100% inclusive as long as you believe, and then exclude people from joining. Simply amazing. How someone can be so wrong about a subject with such passion for their wrongness just amazes.
It really does. Can a person be more stupid? I have to go with no.
nyguy asks who would want to go to such a school. The answer would frighten you.
Let's remember that this school teaches creationism. Any school that denies the scientific evidence for evolution is, by definition, a joke. So to answer you nyguy, idiots want to go to school there, by the thousands.
good grief, how petty and surly can that little pissant be -- the lower case from 'democrat party'. and he's a friggin vice president of student affairs and not some fratboy wonder?
how can people like that be taken seriously. no doubt he's headed for the big leagues; expect to see him on hardball in the coming weeks.
lol.
featured on smokinggun or mugshots.com ???
I DO NOT want one cent of my tax dollar funding an exclusively right-wing university!
I'm just curious..Anyone know their views on the death penalty?
I'm betting they're pro-death,which would make them hypocrites.
And pro-Bush and pro-Iraq war both of which have killed countless innocents
Liberty probably has a Saddam-like statue of Bush on campus
leprochauns go to heaven.
Loath_GOP,
I agree entirely. But I think that the only federal money Liberty "University" (always put "University" in quotations makes when mentioning a school that teaches creationism) is federal grants given to student who happen to spend that money going to colleges for morons. The problem is that the courts have held the federal money that is given to people, and not institutions, and then spent by those people on institutions, some of which are religious and others are not, the money does not directly constitute government support.
And its a tough question. Notre Dame is a great University. If a kid is granted federal grant money, gets into Notre Dame and University of Indiana, and ultimately decides Notre Dame, its hard to say the grant money was intended to support a religious institution.
"Diaz, the paper reports, said he got the news May 15 in an e-mail from Mark Hine, vice president of student affairs."
student affairs vp couldn't give news in person or even by phone. so much for good interpersonal skills of an "educator"
and university Republicans are oppressed and suppressed, and that they have to listen to those awful liberal professors force their views on them, etc.
If you went to college, think about your student organizations, if you had some for the little parties, did you have either the College Republicans or the College Democrats, or both?
Most of those horrible "liberal dominated" colleges are open minded enough to allow both organizations, am I right?
Liberty University are hypocrites, without a doubt!
I've never seen change without a fire
It's important to remind people that Republicans do not believe in democracy, but rather in theocracy - with a benevolent dictator in charge. This is a perfect example.
The republican party doesn't really belong in a democracy at all. Remember that come next election.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
why would a Democrat choose to go to Taliban University headed by Mullah Falwell Jr.?
Tommy Burks, the Democrat that used to be the State Senator for the district in Tennessee where my Dad was from fought to introduce creationism into the schools. So they may not be progressives, but they are Dems in name at least.
I've never seen change without a fire
That's the trouble with Black and White labeling, isn't it. Repubs bad, Dems good, or vice versa; idiots are still idiots.
I'm rubber and you're glue.
Although in this case I think that Sen. Burks had some pretty dumb ideas esp. with creationism, but his last Republican opponent who murdered him out-stupided him by a longshot...
I've never seen change without a fire
Still. My point's the same. Of ALL the colleges in this country.....it's not LIberty is Harvard.
to be very masochistic to go to that school!
I've never seen change without a fire
My first thought when I heard this story was not "what hypocrites!" or "how blatantly partisan!" but "....there are self-identified Democrats who applied to and chose to attend Liberty University?" I know the members of the Democratic party occupy a pretty broad span on the ideological spectrum. We have extremely liberal members and pretty conservative members. And yes, we have members of the evangelical community. But this is Liberty University. It's not just a Christian university, it's a right wing breeding ground. Within the past 10 years, female students weren't even allowed to wear pants to class. Liberty University attitudes are barely 20th century let alone 21st. I know there are some pretty conservative Democrats here, but I thought Liberty would have been too uptight for most, if not all. It's not as if there aren't plenty of less regressive Christian colleges out there to attend.
Next they'll ban any student that believes the Earth was created more than 6000 years ago. What a bunch of bible beating knuckle dragging hicks.
The Liberty Flames? For real? I'll bet there are a lot of closet teabaggers at that school! Hahahaha, you couldn't make this shit up.
A little off topic, but here's a story about a segregated prom in Georgia. Today, 55 years after Brown vs. Board of Education. Shocking.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/05/24...
... of the most evil... and stupidity... and mindless lemmings... and unbridled gullible sheep who dismiss hundreds of years of documented science for a book of folklore without one shred of validation to worship a god that has NEVER been seen... you gotto die to see him?
to fleece the masses and comfort them in their squalor. Satisfaction guaranteed or money refunded (in the afterlife).
but satan called him home. of course this was after he did all the damage he could with his 'christian values' while we were cursed with his presence.
my wife is the HR manager for a very snooty medium sized company here and Liberty University on your resume is one of the things that sends up big red flags at the HR department. its almost impossible to get hired there with a LU diploma unless you went and got your masters degree somewhere else.
Mark Hine (VP Student Affairs), I laugh at the puniness of your mind. And your pant-wetting fear is as big as your mind is small. Hilarious and pitiable. Go clutch a bible in a cave if civilization offends you so.
They should pay taxes to support America who gives them the freedom to be a rightwing cult.
Politics and religion are the same thing. That's why people can't talk religion and politics. In this case I know this "university" is a republican university supporting all republican ideals. This doesn't separate church and state. If this group is, indeed, a political arm they will lose any tax exemption due to their politics.
Let them pay plenty of taxes. After all Fallwell is a "demonic" christian: he supports the idea that you MUST believe in a devil in order to believe in GOD.....that's republican enough for me.
The "messianic" Christians believe you can't serve two masters. Down Fallwell, you bloody devil worshiping group of hate mongers.
NO MORE TAX EVASIONS FOR YOU,EVIL ONES....
J.Smith
They are a private institution.
Though it does reflect just what kind of, "educational institution" this "university" is. If they want to function like an Adolf Hitler School, then they have every right to.
I will never think "any less" of a Liberty University degree because of this issue, since it's not possible for me to.
I played men's lacrosse against Liberty University a couple times in college. Nice guys but at the same time they were the dirtiest team we played. All their cussing and cheap shots didn't help them. They sucked. We beat em like 22-2. The best part was that someone on our team came up with the idea to call them Jerry's Kids, which we did.
We played Liberty in Basketball. They held up car keys and we held up signs saying "Flynt for President," packs of cigarettes, R rated movies. Eventually, they realized they were denied more stuff than we were and shut up
"Liberty university" is neither, just like the "moral majority" and "religious right".
Jerry Fartwell is the bastard who said blacks couldn't join his religion until he was sued and forced to. Flabby University said black and white mixed couples weren't permitted. Why should it surprise that a place that enforces the ignorance of cretinism - sorry, creationism - would also ban a political party?
Obama should have the government revoke the accreditation, but he won't. He's had several chances to stomp on the ability of his critics to speak, and hasn't done so.
Of how a LU degree is regarded, it sounds like he doesn't even need to.
I always thought the word liberty meant something like ...oh why bother ... In fact this university should change its name. Period.
...but I have a hard time feeling sorry for this group. If they attend Liberty University, I'm guessing they're Dems only by name. I doubt they're very progressive. It is sad that anyone's a victim of censorship, but it is a private university. These kids should just pack up and go where they'd be more welcome. Let these ignorant yahoos have their school...
Liberty prefers to support candidates more in line with their own morality, you know, those GOP candidates that support pre-emptive war, torture (and other human rights violations), enabling the wealthy at the expense of everyone else, intolerance, bigotry, greed, etc.
...restricted development, meets' reality. I believe all the hocus-pocus facilities based on magical deities should be taxed just like anyone else, but that's besides the point. When they can't control you, they get uneasy and troubled and sense a certain diminishment to their way of life.
Let them show their hand... statistics show their importance dwindling dramatically. Nothing like a little reality for all to see.The inclusiveness speaks for itself!
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Dear Dr. Falwell,
We are writing to you to express our deep concern over the recent decision of Liberty University to not recognize the Student Democratic Club on your campus any longer, because this decision takes back not only your university, but our country about 234 years. One of the great freedoms in this country is the freedom to vote for a candidate of our choice. With a one party system that you just legislated on campus, there is no choice, just mind control. What’s next, the outlawing of a multicultural club, a women’s club, or the recognition of the validity of Adolf Hitler’s views?
Additionally, your university currently is designated non-profit and many student tuitions are funded by the Federal Student Aid Programs. Because of these realities Liberty University has no right to treat students unequally, whether by race, religion, political party, gender, or sexual orientation. Taxes from ALL citizens fund the Pell Grants.
One of the main purposes of education is to provide students with information, instruction, and the decision making process from a variety of points of view. Your close mindedness on this issue in light of the recent and not so recent struggles faced not only of the Republican party, but with Evangelicals on a national level brings to mind the following verses in the Bible.
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
We will rest in the knowledge that God and His Son, Jesus Christ are far more gracious than Liberty University, and thank God, far more gracious that we mere human begins, for we know with absolute assurance that the ground at the foot of the cross is level. Jesus died for everyone, not just Republicans. Hallelujah!
There are lots of parents that could pay for private schools that send their kids to public schools because it is simply a more cost-effective solution for them.
Students wanting to pay for a private school tuition may have trouble making ends meet. Depending on your family’s income and financial resources, you may need government scholarships or grants.
Hmmm accepting public money (and no university can run without it) they are limited; I bet some lawyers could have fun with this.
Ohh snap!! Trouble in La-La land..........
http://www.libertystudentnews.com/2009/04/for...
LuLu
Anyone with more than half a brain in their head can get an education elsewhere.
Someone with 1/2 a brain in their head should not go to Liberty University because they are clearly too intelligent for BigotU and they would be better served going to any other school - I would say that if the school has any religious ties at all you would be better off avoiding them all together.
But that is what we get from religion (throughout history)- they shun anything intelligent because a smart person will see through the church's BS and that is not good business for the church.
Ignorance on the other hand is just finE with the church, because the people who don't think will never question and that is the only way the church can operate.
In Christianity's early days they had thinkers like St. Augustine who embraced a lot of Aristotle's ideas. Thomas Aquinas also didn't have a head full of manure.
Then came along a guy named Martin Luther that played a large role in fucking it all up with his idea of priesthood of all believers, where any dolt can read the Bible and tell other people what is means and says, so now we have these jackasses, devoid of any ability to think critically just running around saying what ever the damn well please, making no effort to justify their positions outside of the classic "teh Bible sez so" circular argument.
(comment deleted by poster) self-censored albeit after the fact (oops)
Remember the principle of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid!)
You guys are getting sidetracked. For instance:
The name of the damn school demands that there be Liberty! Last time I checked, Liberty stood for freedom, The Statue of Liberty, that "thing" our forefathers fought for, that "thing" that caused the Constitution to be enacted and THE BILL OF RIGHTS to be attached to it!
Furthermore, for a so-called religious organization, (Liberty University), to be involved in Politics is pure old Blasphemy!
Rise up people! If you can't speak up for your government, then at least stand up for your God!..............Jackson
Only one political party allowed. Now where have I heard that one before?
If that kid is any indication of the intelligence level of the young Democrats at Liberty U., God help us all.
Whaaaa??? "promotes the "LGBT" agenda, Hate Crimes, which include sexual orientation and gender identity,"
Are they claiming that promoting the LGBT agenda is a hate crime? Or that gender identity and sexual orientation are hate crimes? What does this mean? Maybe they're afraid that the presence of Democrats on campus might inflame the Republicans to commit hate crimes???
Do they really have the balls to claim the Democratic platform embraces Hate Crimes? (not sure why the title case letters, either... maybe it's a brand name thing)
whether intentional or not, i think the mangled phrase is their reference to hate crimes legislation that was to put glbt as a protected class-- as in violence against based on (perceived) race, religion, et al.
the phrasing by lu turns the tables (conveniently) and makes it appear hate crimes is the liberal dem agenda rather than factual polar opposite.
I'm sure both members of the club were disappointed when the hammer came down.
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