Scozzafava Dropping Out of NY-23
By Heather Saturday Oct 31, 2009 10:00am
Looks like the Club for Growth/Sarah Palin wing of the Republican Party has prevailed in this race. DeDe Scozzafava suspends her campaign:
Dede Scozzafava, the Republican and Independence parties candidate, announced Saturday that she is suspending her campaign for the 23rd Congressional District and releasing all her supporters.
The state Assemblywoman has not thrown her support to either Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate, or Bill Owens, the Democratic candidate.
"Today, I again seek to act for the good of our community," Ms. Scozzafava wrote in a letter to friends and supporters. "It is increasingly clear that pressure is mounting on many of my supporters to shift their support. Consequently, I hereby release those individuals who have endorsed and supported my campaign to transfer their support as they see fit to do so. I am and have always been a proud Republican. It is my hope that with my actions today, my party will emerge stronger and our district and our nation can take an important step towards restoring the enduring strength and economic prosperity that has defined us for generations."
Ms. Scozzafava told the Watertown Daily Times that Siena Research Institute poll numbers show her too far behind to catch up - and she lacks enough money to spend on advertising in the last three days to make a difference. Mr. Owens has support from 36 percent of likely voters in the poll, with Mr. Hoffman garnering 35 percent support. Ms. Scozzafava has support from 20 percent of those polled.
The Gouverneur resident said she thinks she will receive more than 20 percent of the vote, based on several factors, including her performance during a Thursday debate.
See the Watertown Daily Times' "All Politics is Local" blog to read Ms. Scozzafava's complete statement or for more information on today's Siena poll.
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and a rabid wing nut. This will not help the GOP, no matter how Steele tries to spin it. Not in real life, anyway. Maybe Hoffman will bite Owen, and that will be that.
Her party has kicked her to the curb financially and she's had to pull out - so now Sarah's pick gets to run solo. The race is tuesday, but there's still plenty of time for her opponent to whip followers into a frothing rabid mob.
Her name will still be on the ballot - I hope she makes a dent in his take.
If the Dem weren't a Blue Dog, I might be interested in sending a check - but it'll be a cold day in hell before I ever give a dime to a blue dog candidate.
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if hoffman wins, the really extreme rightwingers will see it as a huge victory in their civil war against the comparatively only slightly extreme right wingers for the soul of the repub party.
they will take the crazy everywhere else, as they are already doing in florida and california.
it will be very interesting to see how the texas gov race plays out, especially since icons palin and cheney have endoresed different horses...
i think this is all to the good -- the lesson they will learn from this is to turn up the batsh!t crazy to 11
of the GOP. I wonder what this will mean in the long run? I'd love it if the goopers tore their party to shambles because of this weird ideological battle...
This might mean the GOP needs more extreme to the right , right wing candidates to win elections?
Republican solidarity has turned into a bloodbath pitting them against each other. Yehaa!
The Palin wing of the Republican Party would be happy to see the entire right fail if they can't impose their will. The established, moneyed interests in the GOP are ultimately pragmatic, and will cave to the nut jobs if the alternative is a Democratic Party win.
This sort of thing will destroy that party in the long run, since the far-right fringe candidates are not viable on the national scale. Keep it up, Palin and friends!
The corporate masters do not care who wins, as they own them all. This controversy is a "shiny thing," intended to distract from reality. Corporations own this country. They corrupt almost every single politician who goes to DC. They do the same at the highest state levels. People may start out wanting to do right, but they don't get to stay there very long. Personal advancement gets them every time. They tell themselves, in part at least, that they owe it to their families. They cannot resist the big bucks. You may think this is an extreme view of things, but it is true regardless.
This will embolden (you have to use correct right wing words when describing the right wing of the Wingnut Party) so this will embolden Palin and the Palinistas to run their wingnuts in the next election and to run for President. I can only hope.
I think keeping Scozzafava in the race would have cause more votes to be split. While some of the R's will vote D because they fear Teh Krazy, others will vote conservative to vote against a D. I think this will make a closer race than if there were three candidates. While I'm not enamored by the blue dogs, who are basically Republican-lites, I don't want a Conservative elected. They shouldn't be encouraged. While they are a majority, they are proving far more active than the generally apathetic US populace.
I agree.
I'm not happy with the Blue Dogs AT ALL; but I'd rather have a Blue Dog than Teabagger.
(That said, I"m not going to be too upset if he loses either. At the least I figure it'll make for some 'entertaining' Bachmman-like moments.)
Because it's much harder for a right-wing nutjob to win against any moderate Dem or otherwise.
Win the battle, lose the war.
But maybe her sane supporters will support the Democrat and put that Conservobot on notice.
Or they'll just vote party lines.
this, politicians do not put their party affiliation on their campaign literature, their lawn signs, or any of their advertisements. I think that is to keep people from voting the party line, unless you are more involved in politics than most people. Sleazy, isn't it?
But I think that it is designed not for the public to not vote for the minority party. Considering I live in a conservative area, the minority party is generally the Democratic party.
Big shock that.
I don't understand how it is sleazy for politicians not to identify their party, especially if everyone does it. It provides a bit of incentive for the voters to study a candidate's message, rather than reacting to a little donkey or elephant on a bumpersticker. And wouldn't such lawn signs, literature, etc., make it easier for third party candidates to get their names known by the electorate simply because people won't draw immediate conclusions about a politician based on affiliation?
I respect your right to disagree. Isn't one's campaign literature intended to put forth your beliefs, etc.? But when your hand-outs just say that you have been married for 15 years to your wife, Marilyn. That you are the parents of three children, all honor students. That you have a BS from SUNY and teach 7th grade science at Thomas Jefferson Middle School. And you believe in no new taxes. That is useless information. How does that tell anyone what you will do if you get in office? It is one of those "trust me" deals. Haven't we all learned not to do that? It really doesn't matter because if you haven't learned that politicians never keep campaign promises, then you deserve what you get. And the Blue Dogs have driven home the point that all party affiliations mean nothing. So forget what I said. It doesn't matter.
This is an interesting idea. I just read each candidates answer on the local issues of concern and found almost no difference. Faced with this circumstance, any reasonable voter would vote for the more locally informed candidate that was not coming in pushing some outside agenda. That is just me.
Verrrry interesting. (said in my best dracula voice) It is Halloween. ya know.
That's why Hoffman entered the race. The race now has come down to Liberal vs. Conservative.
between a conservative democrat and a wing nut. Hoffman doesn't even live in the district. He had to be imported. From Wingnuttia, no doubt.
I never could figure out why The Newt endorsed such a left winger. Give me a Wingnut from Wingnuttia any day, thank you.
Troll Elsewhere, Miss registered for only an hour.
Yep, and that's why only 19% of the people call themselves Republicans. I didn't know conservatives were up on technology. Come back next week and we'll teach you about this thing they call Google. You can even look up pictures of sheep. Hot sheep.
What outside agenda might the teabagger Doug Hoffmann have? http://www.accountableamerica.org/
There is little difference among the three of them. This is an interesting idea. I just read each candidates answer on the local issues of concern and found almost no difference. Faced with this circumstance, any reasonable voter would vote for the more locally informed candidate that was not coming in pushing some outside agenda. That is just me.
I would think that the locals would be outraged by the intrusion of outsiders into their local politics deciding how they should vote. I don't think that this country has seen such blatant corporate driven bullying since the 1930s. It is clear from an observer’s eye view that this is arm-twisting in a big way when a moderate Republican candidate is forced to drop out, and has more in common with the Democratic candidate, yet Republicans are expected to vote the Conservative ticket just because the candidate is Republican.
I find it odd that they are not visibly outraged at being considered so programmed by the party. I also find it odd that no one is mentioning the NY-20th election of 2006 where the Democratic candidate was 19 points behind at this same point in the race and she was written off too by the same poll, but she we be visiting you soon to talk about such things. I think local wisdom will prevail and when they vote their conscience the outsiders will do a lot more homework next time before they rush in to save the day.
I think that any effect she would have had, she still can have on this election. After all, she is still on the ballot.
My favorite part of the NY Times article. "Mr. Hoffman, though running as a Conservative, had been endorsed by some Republican luminaries, including Sarah Palin".
Luminary? Sarah Palin? Compared to what, a 5 watt bulb?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/nyregion/01...
I just never thought it would happen so quickly. McCain really created a monster with that one.
Owens in the polls had 35% support, Hoffman 36% and Dede had 20%. Let's hope that that 20% are sick of the direction the party is headed and more vote for Owens. Sure it wouldn't really help the Dems that much since Owens is a Blue Dog but it would be a kick in the ass to Palin and Co.
this is very sad. once again Americans have to choose between only two flavours. And actually its only 1 choice for sensible americans, because there is no choice between center right and batshit insane.
this is actually becoming a very clever ploy to keep america "right wing". the harder they push right, the more right it brings everybody else.
Owens not out yet those votes have to go somewhere
Pull John McHugh and watch theory in action. To bad Judd Gregg caught on. Timing is often a key factor.(Divide & conquer lite)
New York’s Representatives:
NY has 2 (D) Senators
NY has 2 (R) Congressman**
NY has 26 (D) Congressman and Congresswomen
NY-23's (R) Congressman John McHugh was Confirmed as Army Secretary.
Server Glitch.
Palins' puppet will more than likely win.Strange how the republican drops out less than a week before the election. Nothing to see here folks, move along.This is where the real stupid starts.Mark my words. 2010 and 2012 are gonna be a third party watershed with Fox News in the lead.
Well I guess the conservatards get to see their guy lose fully on his own merits now, it will be interesting to see who they blame for their loss this time around. Probably Scozzafava for not dropping out sooner.
I would think that the locals would be outraged by the intrusion of outsiders into their local politics deciding how they should vote. I don't think that this country has seen such blatant corporate driven bullying since the 1930s. It is clear from an observer’s eye view that this is arm-twisting in a big way when a moderate Republican candidate is forced to drop out, and has more in common with the Democratic candidate, yet Republicans are expected to vote the Conservative ticket just because the candidate is Republican.
I find it odd that they are not visibly outraged at being considered so programmed by the party. I also find it odd that no one is mentioning the NY-20th election of 2006 where the Democratic candidate was 19 points behind at this same point in the race and she was written off too by the same poll, but she we be visiting you soon to talk about such things. I think local wisdom will prevail and when they vote their conscience the outsiders will do a lot more homework next time before they rush in to save the day.
I think that any effect she would have had, she still can have on this election. After all, she is still on the ballot.
...The Hatfield-McCoy feud. The party of "NO" is a stubborn bunch that thinks the other is not interpreting the divine message correctly. They have not had squat in 06' and 08' and due to their obvious knuckle dragging they'll most likely lose a couple more, come 20010.
I'm fine with the far, far right pulling these tactics.
They keep chasing more and more of the Republican Party away, and their numbers keep dropping. At the same time, the all-important independents are getting more and more disgusted with their shenanigans.
First, the number of self-identified Republicans dropped to about 28%.
Then it went to 25%. It's currently down to 20%.
When it plummets to around 15%, they might as well dissolve the party...
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