February 27, 2010 08:00 PM
Right Wingers Mock Louise Slaughter at the Health Care Summit
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Isn't this lovely? Rep. Louise Slaughter relayed this story at the Health Care Summit:
I even have one constituent -- you will not believe this, and I know you won't, it's true. Her sister died, this poor woman had no dentures. She wore her dead sister's teeth, which of course were uncomfortable and did not fit. Do you believe that in America that that's where we would be?
And here's the reaction from the right as documented by our friends at Media Matters. They don't feel -- or care about -- your pain:
- On Twitter, Michelle Malkin wrote: "We need trillion-$ Demcare cuz someone had to wear their sister's dentures! O: "Terrific conversation""
- On his radio program, Glenn Beck stated, "I've read the Constitution ... I didn't see that you had a right to teeth."
- Author and radio host Laura Ingraham told Bill O'Reilly that Slaughter's tale was "ridiculous" and a "sob story."
- Fox Nation, the website maintained by the Fox News Channel, labeled Slaughter's comments "Summit Insanity."
h/t Bob Cesca and John Cole is right. These really are just hideous people, any way you look at it. And yes thank goodness she didn't use her name or Malkin and Bill-O's hit squad would be showing up at her door.
h/t David for the video
Oh Glenn. If he really had read the Constitution he'd also know that nobody has a right to be a TV show host.
A government that is big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.
Now if you people feel this story is so compelling why don't you take up a collection and sent the money to Ms Slaughter? Anyone, anyone here going to do that,.... I did not think so. This was a retarded story to tell at this summit and is one of the reasons it is sooo easy to make Dems look pathetic.
Conservatives are scared of their own shadow. "The big bad gov'ment going to get you! BOO!" Well, the rest of the civilized world has universal health care benefits, and they don't seem to have fallen into tyranny yet. But I suppose you would have been among those who would have made the same argument against Social Security in the '30s. Has the government taken everything you have got because we went for Social Security?
You reminded me of what Scrooge said when the people asked him for contributions to the poor. "Isn't that what we have poor houses for?" You, sir, are a schmuck.
Candideinnc
I can guarantee that the government has more guns and ammo in stock and the trained troops to use them than dentures and dentists.
A government that is big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have? Where is the line drawn so-called truth seeker? Was government not quite big enough when Bush was pres, because it seems that they were fully capable and willing to take any rights away from anyone who stood in their way? Does providing basic health services to people push us over some invisible line that only the government as bad Right sees, and then down some unseen slippery slope? This is the kind of statement asserted as "common sense" fact which is totally meaningless.
The whole point of the discussion, if we could actually have one, is that people, especially elderly or disadvantaged people shouldn't have to take up a collection, or beg on the streets, or hold a bake sale just to have basic dental care. If we are a civilized society then people shouldn't have to expend every once of their energy just to survive and live without unnecessary pain.
I've read the constitution too, and I don't see anywhere that a right to predatory capitalism, or to drive a gas-guzzler, or to go shopping is proscribed, but I've heard all those things described as a right by conservatives. In the 19th century, government decided that growing food was too important to be left to the free market or the end result could be famine and starvation in bad years. There's that social engineering for you.
Maybe if we just declare ourselves a third world nation, then doctors with borders or another charity can provide dental fairs for all the people who can't get proper treatment. I hope that if Malkin or Beck ever has a toothache that their dentist refuses to treat them because they are subhuman assholes.
Doctors without borders serves the United States often. They need it the most. People in poorer countries take care of their own.
Of course not having millions of businessmen try and rip it apart to make it fit like a feather in their cap is not helping.
You created monsters called corporations. Perhaps we should stop them.
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
but I don't have Dental Care insurance, so why the F should I have to chip in on that bitches dental bill. You bleeding hearts are pathetic, you don't make much money so you're not worried about paying more in taxes right.
Has anyone here taken up that collection for the ladys dental bill? NO? I didn't think so, losers.
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family situation, these people deserve to have a family member DROP DEAD unexpectedly so perhaps they can feel just a little of what the average American feels.
These people are not human; I have no sympathy for them any longer.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Why do you look like a human being?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVOFePHeoJ8
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M77HfZu24bw
I seriously doubt they would even care if one of their own family died.
When in public, they would have to use the Beck Vapo-Rub Move (tm).
mother died quite young, and about an hour after she died (unexpectedly), as he sat in shock in the hospital, his Republican father, sister, and brother spent time debating where to go for dinner. A similar story has been told about the death of G.W. Bush's younger sister.
Some say Republicanism is a mental disease, I think (and this story was a factor in coming to this conclusion) that in particular they're a collection of people who are narcissistic and/or unusually selfish and/or egotistic and/or completely lacking in empathy, thus not necessarily mentally disturbed, but certain borderline if not completely sociopathic.
Most also have a pronounced authoritarian complex. So for the most part they're a group of irrational and more or less disturbed people who can't be reasoned with or treated like adults. They simply need to be contained, marginalized, their inhumane ideology revealed for what it is, and attacked--politically--on all fronts until they're put back in the can for a while (since this scourge of American democracy is unlikely to ever go completely away).
It sounds like your friend was trying to get sympathy from you and he wanted you to hate his family. He sounds pathetic to me.
found among them.
I don't even want to say what else I think of these cretins.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
that without teeth, you don't EAT. And if you are wearing teeth that don't fit right, you're not eating very well. This is a sad story, but these idiots mock it, which must mean it is an effective story. They always mock strong points, like John Kerry's military service and Obama's Harvard law degree (which they call elite). Not a shred of humanity. Win at any cost. That's the GOP!
If the party, and corporations, are legally persons, can't we get commitment orders and have them treated for their disconnections with reality?
Back in my flea market days, I found an interesting streetside garbage pile, mined it for good discards, and found, among other items, a pair of false teeth. I put them on sale the following weekend, just for laughs, and got plenty.
Until an elderly rural customer arrived: smiled, sincerely and toothlessly, and paid the $5. I asked him if there might be a fitting problem, and he stated that they would fit better than the dentist he couldn't afford, and far better than no teeth.
The Lions Club recycles glasses--why is no-one relining and recycling choppers?
Hideous indeed. Jeez I am so glad I don't know these "people". How could somebody with so much be so callous? And ... oh crap , forget it. Michelle Malkin and Laura Ingraham are just scum. And Beck and O'Mousedick... well there are no words.
i wish those idiot teabaggers would really listen to these fucks
they are the true elitists
they have theirs and fuck everyone else
why is it not ot?
because the driver, the incredible holcomb, was going blind
his vision was saved because of a procedure that is currently not fda approved and not covered under any health insurance
he got the procedure because his association and friends paid for it
had he been some shlub...he would have been forced to go blind
if he had gotten the procedure....in India.....
for the life of me, i cant figure out why the procedure hasnt been approved
he had 20/600 vision
after the procedure....20/20
but of course, beck would say that the constitution doesnt guarantee eyes either
it definitely doesnt guarantee a brain...which that disgusting man lacks
America has fallen, please move to a free 'nonauthoritarian non-police state' if you could.
If you can get out.
If you can't get out, stock up, and once we 'liberate' you from your government (like we liberate Germany after WW2) then you can have your country back and decide who sided with the 'nazi's' and who didn't and all that stuff.
I'm sure you will find that after that we will try people who murdered and tortured and hang them, like at Nuremberg. Gate guard at Gitmo? Well time to put you on trial and see if you tortured people.
Hit someone on the head with your fist?
Stories like that fill the pages of the Warcrime trials. And people were hung for it.
I hope you picked the right side.
We got a lot of rope.
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
I can imagine very easily these sick excuses for human beings, I can imagine them telling their starving children to suck it up and find a way to buy their own food.
all while preaching the virtues of "self-sufficiency" and "free-market principles".
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Christians....
go figure...
someone would have the audacity to advocate for people who have dental health issues.
As it is these vipers see all medical care for the poor and middle class as expendable, but dental care seems to be even more so. It was one of the things that Ahnold S. decided to cut from California Medicaid.
And despite my status as a person with a psychological disability, which is enough to get me Medicare, the one thing I don't have is dental care either. Haven't been to my dentist in years.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Poor dental hygiene has been linked to heart disease.
And heart disease to death
Often leaving orphans that become dependent on the State.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I used to be on anti-depressents
But it depressed my willy
Giving me reason to feel depressed
Funny in it's way.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Michelle Malkin and Laura Ingraham are assholes. No other word to describe them. Two people without empathy. Black empty pits where their souls are supposed to be. "We've got ours. Too fucking bad about you."
No, they are just typical "compassionate conservatives'
to take health care for everyone seriously. When one of these
assholes'compassionate conservatives' has to borrow someone else's teeth to eat a meal, they'll get it.And I wish the knowledge of it on every one of them.
me-oww!
Sure, the constitution doesn't mention teeth per se, but it does have that pesky, dare I say "socialist" phrase, about one of the purposes of government is to promote the general welfare. I'm pretty sure the Repugli- "See You Next Tuesday"s' would favor tearing up the constitution's preamble and using a "clean piece of paper" to "start over," would limit our government's role to cutting taxes and growing the military. Glenn Beck refers to himself as a "sick, twisted freak." To thine ownself he is true.
of its corporations."
Finished it for ya!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Actually the phrase general welfare is found in what is called the Taxing and Spending clause, primarily giving Congress the ability to determine for itself what to raise and spend taxes on, regardless of the enumerated powers, which say nothing about being conclusive.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
and if they decide that includes providing for the health of the nation, it does not run contrary to the constitution, but is affirmed by it, if I understand it correctly.
That's my understanding, if it's not expressly provided for, or expressly forbidden.
But until it's added under the amendment process it's more of a political question than one of rights.
Pandemics and epidemics is one such concern. And public health has always been under government concern. It was why the Romans built public baths.
However, if the legislature can express a legitimate governmental concern it would definitely fall under customs and usage (not mentioned in the Constitution). I think Article X has been traditionally, and perhaps deliberately misread:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Conservatives have often argued that limits the powers of Congress to the enumerated powers, because otherwise it defers to the states. However, you notice that it also defers to the people. Further Amendment IX says:
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
So the people are mentioned twice to the states once, one for rights and the others for powers. If the people decide to give further powers to Congress through the ballot box, that is an acceptable practice, within the limits of the tripartite system. And under Article VI and Amendment XIV, the states must obey.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I should also mention that when it comes to social spending if the Congress passes laws allowing it to do something that should be sufficient since Amendment X does not say they have to create an Amendment to fulfill this function.
Jefferson passed no amendment to allow him to finalize the Louisiana Purchase, although he doubted he had that power. No amendment was passed to allow for the Bank of the United State, for the judicial review of Congress, innocent until proven guilty, executive power or congressional oversight.
And in the case of social spending they didn't take the right away from the state, but joined forces. Although often once the state sees what the Federal government is doing, they dropped their own part for the sake of the State's budge, and basically give away that power.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I disagree with your interpretation of the Taxing clause. If it was as you said, why would they need the enumerated powers to raise armies, navy etc. Wouldn't all that be covered under the general defense section of the Taxing clause? IMO that section grants the power to tax and spend for the enumerated powers. I think there have been a USSC case or two that supports my view. But I can't find them at the moment. Which is why they use the Interstate commerce clause so much now.
The Constitution is designed to restrict the Fed gov. As can be seen in the Preamble to the Bill of Rights.
I just carved a voodoo doll of Malkin with frozen dog poop as the medium (wearing latex gloves of course). I'm now going to run it over with my truck. I did give it a nice set of teeth using white tic tacs.
to me...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
A sob story from such people who talk nonsense as "snowflake babies?"
And the last words of a girl shot at Columbine was in response to a question of if she believed in Jesus, and she said yes?
And people who surround themselves with families of slain soldiers who for some reason their flesh didn't crawl near boosh?
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I strongly doubt becky's read the Constitution.
They seem to think they have a Constitutional right to say whatever they want to say on TV without people having the option to express their opinions on what was said.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"I doubt he could read any long book." -hitchens
That being said it is anecdotal
One might argue that it's not the norm,
But then I've seen the lines for free Health Care Fairs on Bill Maher
They looked larger than any tea-bagger rally.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Yeah, it's not normal. NO ONE'S situation is "normal". We all have individual stories. That's no reason for these vampires to sneer at someone's pain.
Fucking maggots.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
..he pretty much whined about that.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
So if I knock Beck's down him throat, does that mean he has no right to complain?
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
too bad it'll take a French-style revolution to make him that poor.
me-oww!
days.
History sort of repeating itself I guess. These Repugs want the Ancien Regime without the Reign of Terror.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
At times I have had problems with Insurance companies here in Canada. Not health related thank god. But when I did I would be harrassing the head office to get my problem solved. It worked more often then not. I know if I lived in america these days I would be denied coverage for the good ol pre exsisting condition, I have a severe form of Celiac disease. I know I would be camping out to DEMAND a refund of all the money I may of paid in premiums. I don't understand why more ppl don't do that in america.
I am thankful everyday that I live in Canada and we have universal healthcare FOR EVERYONE.
Because you would be arrested for trespassing. You really think the insurance companies in this country give a shit what their "customers" think? They'd call security and have you thrown out. It's happened to a lot of people. They just don't care if you're unhappy with your coverage. What they say goes and that's that. Tough shit dude, you shouldn't have gotten sick, is their attitude.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
As an individual you'd probably be arrested and hauled away or just ignored Mike , the people have to collectively come to the end of their rope .I do wonder how much more people will take before they have had enough , when it hurts even the upper classes / income brackets ... then something will be done , until then rest of us are screwed .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
It's the American Corporate Party(ACP). It has two-wings. The GOP is wholly corporate owned, while the Democratic Party is partially owned. Obama campaigned with progressive rhetoric, but as president appeases Wall Street. America's present condition is best understood by a quote from PBS's Bill Moyers: "Money ruined democracy." Adding to your understanding would be comedian Bill Maher's comment: "You can't govern stupid." Those two-quotes pretty much tell you where your southern neighbor stands.
What a disgusting bunch of slimy maggots. Just bottom feeders, vampires, bloodsucking leeches, all of them.
I hope every one of them comes down with some ugly condition that necessitates care THEY CAN'T GET. Then we'll see them whining and crying about how awful it is to be sick. And they would deserve every minute of it.
*off to find some bicarbonate for my nausea*
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM7rB_ecU4E
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Hideous people is right , there's no lower life form on planet earth . If I were dictator there would be a purge that is for sure , they are a terrible waste of oxygen .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
I'm so lucky that I'm not one of these people who mocked Slaughter. They must hate themselves. Their lives filled with absolute misery and pettiness. The kind of people who live to kick people when they're down. Just...sick.
NOBODY 2012
...is how many of these right-wingers claim to be Christians, when anyone who's ever read the New Testament can see from the subtext of their typical rhetoric that these people have little or no true understanding of the principles advocated by Jesus of Nazareth.
It's not too hard to see that these people are exactly the sort Paul had in mind when he wrote this:
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver up my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing." (1 Corinthians 13: 1-3).
And this is what Jesus himself had to say about people like this:
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.' (Matthew 25: 41-45)
And then these people have the unmitigated nerve to attack other people for their supposed lack of proper Christian behavior????????
Give. Me. A. Break. It's amazing that these people can still make themselves heard over the positively deafening sound of shattering glass...
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
Pigs like Malkin, Beck and Ingraham simply believe that people like that unfortunate woman cannot exist in the Reagan "Shining City On The Hill" that is "their" America.
More of the "I've got mine, fuck you" philosophy the Republican party is built on.
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
If these pathetic despicable slobs are "thee elite" I never want to be one of thee elite .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
Sat/febr 27,2010
In the USA we do not need insurance companies,because they are a bunch
of crooked parasitic greedy companies.
These people were not chosen for their talents, but for their willingness to lie for money. Right now, lying pays big. Someday maybe not.
They are all false prophets and hopefully they will be in the same city and/or building that Cheney has picked for his next 9/11 attack when it happens. How many people will Cheney murder this time in order to gain control of this country?
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=E...
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Hopefully, someday, they will pay big time for their lies.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Amen to that .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
as a nation what we sow we reap
we have sown this insanity in america with our arrogance and greed and war mongering wars for profts for the few.
did we really think we could be that greedy and war mongering and not pay the price.
neither most atheists or the religious understand that simple universal axiom.
check out history and see how well rome, england, germany, and japan, did with their imperialistic empires.
and if you dont think we are an imperialistic nation you have drank the cheney kool aid.
naw americans keep blaming banks, wall street, congress, white house, etc
that has worked so well. we are an immoral society with our greed, arrogance, imperialism.
we are so immoral we even give tax cuts to the rich while the nation self destructs in a massive decline of wealth.
then we have a lame pres who refuses to lead. just give speeches and has summits.
at least roosevelt knew who the enemy was.
we killed one million vietnamese and did not bat an eye.
oh we protested but only over the draft.
where are the protestors now?
are most americans really that dumb that they think iraq and afghan wars are about terrorism. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
it appears we are that dumb we keep electing the same war mongers into office.
or are our elected politicans just a reflection of the american masses. yep.
we are a republic that most americans in their ignorance call a democracy.
..got a match? I have a lantern to light.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
With your last line you've seem to accepted the republican mantra.
I would agree if you mean essentially we are an oligarchy
But disagree is you say that's the principle our country was built on because then it would be incomplete.
An oligarchy can be dictatorial
A Democratic-Republic makes Democracy the over-arching term.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I been thinking that the way repubs think and act ---they should rename the party ---the repubcommunists -- it fits
Hideous. I think She's got it! The Republican is hideous. Pox terror theatre is hideous. They don't know it and that's hideous too.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Mean people suck.
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..make comments or jokes. that little pinhead went from excoriating the health care system in America to calling it #1 in the world, whatever suits his purpose I suppose. But the right doesn't get it not at all; they are elitists and everyone not them be damned but buy their books and keep them rich, that's what their fans don't get.
the damning video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX1rLv_hNeI&fe...
Note to michelle malkin, you can't pissed off just because a house fell on your sister all those many years ago. It was a natural act.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
"Note to michelle malkin, you can't pissed off just because a house fell on your sister all those many years ago. It was a natural act."
LOL! Excellent!!!!
So the woman had to go through life without teeth? So what? All these right-wingers have to go through their whole lives without hearts!
Candideinnc
Louise is my congresswoman - a great honor having her as my house rep. Louise - thanks for all your hard work standing up for us.
and another reason why the ignorant should not be voting for them.
But check out this Link to Democratic underground; it serves to show where a portion of their warped mindset is coming from.
Gives a fairly good reason as to why these fools think it's ok to be heartless pricks all of the time.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Malkin,Beck Ingrham ,Fox all compassionate conservatives.
pennlady
What else can be expected from the heartless bastard Block and Blame republicans. Some of my friends are republicans and yes morethan a few are heartless bastards that show very little compassion, if any at all.
and will be when these hateful, incompassionate, liars suffer the seeds they have sown thoughout their lives. There is nothing that raises these awful people above any enemy our military has ever fought against. Wingers are the worst this country has to offer.
are all, to larger or lesser degrees, sociopaths. I now take that as a given. Nothing I can do about it. What bothers me most, however is that people who should know better are forever capitualating to the demands of these twisted personalities. They ought to be handling them as corrections professional and mental health professionals would be handling them: minimizing them, allowing them no influence or power, granting them zero opportunities for predation, denying them any measure of trust, confronting their every lie with pitiless and brutal honesty, openly and very publicly calling out their every misdeed in blunt and unforgiving detail. These are predatory people of the lie. Manipulators to their last breath, people untroubled by the promptings of conscience and imune from the moderating influences of conscience.
They should treated fairly, but never be accomodated to any degree, however small.
That is a sad story to be sure, but not a very good argument.
If someone pointed to a 115 year old woman living in a nursing home somewhere in the U.S. would that be a convincing argument that there was nothing wrong with our health care system? Probably not.
It's hard to not feel a deep antipathy toward republicans when I hear something like this. And it's not an aberration, it's business as usual for them. It's just the way they are.
I can't believe that so many of these writers are so selfish and just plain mean. They must be very unhappy, dismal souls.
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