Paul Krugman: Jindal and the GOP Just Finding Things That Sound Silly and Making Stuff Up
By Heather Thursday Feb 26, 2009 10:00am
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Keith Olbermann and Paul Krugman break down some of Bobby Jindal's speech and the distortions and outright lies that were told in it. Krugman pretty well hits the nail on the head here:
Uh, I don't think there was much of an argument there. You really have, you know I've said it was Beavis and Butthead. They find things that sound silly if you don't actually know anything, so gosh, volcano monitoring. Why would you want to monitor a volcano? Because it might erupt and kill a lot of people. Uh, but they're basically reduced to just picking out a few things or in some cases just making stuff up. The salt marsh mouse thing on the stimulus and saying this is stupid. See government is stupid. Cut taxes. It's not much of an argument.
Amen brother. Nate's got more on the volcano monitoring comment. As I already noted in "Bill Adair shot down the mouse nonsense on Morning Joe", much to their dismay. There's a good diary up on the boat story over at Daily Kos.
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I agree that the "NO" Reslugs are just making asses out of themselves.
problem at least here is this. Gov. Jindal was already judged and turned downed before he even said a word. He has an (R) next to his name. Never mind that fact of the historical nature of his election in Louisiana, never mind that he is a Rhodes Scholar, never mind the fact that he was a bit nervous(which is completely normal, should I even link to all of the gaffes Obama has done?ie; American's invented the car)
People judged him before they even saw him. No one on this site or any others will even take into account the historical nature of Gov. Jindal or the new RNC Chairman being an African American. Let's take Obama though and mention how historic that is though... I agree his election is historic. It is such a shame to see how others do not see the history in other areas, just because of that (R).
The point is this, no matter what Gov. Jindal would have said, he would have gotten flamed for it, because the President said there were 0 earmarks in the recovery package and that is what most on this site and others want to believe. What you may see as not an earmark, I may, why is this simple ideological difference so difficult for people to grasp? It does not mean Gov. Jindal was wrong or right, it means he saw something he felt like was an earmark.
The Government is currently broken, our nation is in debt up to its eyeballs and spending monies we do not have is not the way to get out of this situation. That's like saying a family in debt should spend more money they don't have to....do what? Get in more debt and hope things turn around to pay off that debt at a later time? Or should that family maybe tighten the belt a little, reduce the cable and cell phone plans, don't eat out so much, don't buy things you can't afford, pay cash. This is so simple it's to easy, that's the problem.
As many times as President Obama has said crisis and catastrophe, a year ago, it was fear mongering, now, it's ok to be said.... We are on our way to the end, it's just a matter of time before stagflation will catch up, China will come calling for payments and America will not be able to pay. President Obama's fiscal 2010 budget calls for $3.55 trillion in spending....more debt..when will it end?
You make all that up on your own?
Or was this copied and pasted directly from the RNC?
Is it so difficult to comprehend that I am able to think for myself?
Not really.
Just bustin yer balls John.
and that is the problem, sadly the GOP voted for the bailout and wanted to stimulate the economy too, just as long as it was their stimulus. We need to let companies fail, we can't properly valuate an asset as long as it's undead corpse gets to lurches along like a zombie haunting our economy with all it's toxic waste. That is what we have done and no private investor will touch that type of an investment with ten foot pole.
Mark my words Krugman is going to have some serious explaining to do in 2 or 3 years down the road, it will nail the coffin shut on Keynesian economics after this deficit spending non-sense falls on it's face.
Everyone points to the 1030's spending as proof it works. Some big differences, we we're the largest exporter then, we held the debt of nations, we large reserve assets, and 40% gold exchange standard, we didn't have $15 trillion national debt. Today none of that is true, it's the exact opposite.
It's not a party problem, it is an irresponsibility problem. Both sides are to blame and eventually(I am afraid in the very near future) this will come crashing down around us.
On that note I'll add this to the post trail today. 02.25.09 People should watch this and remember what he is saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW2V50AS7K0
Then read and hear listen to what Bernanke is saying
Bernanke: The End of the Recession Is Nigh
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=5992.43...
and remember what he is saying...
Who should we listen to?
Ron Paul who had correctly warned the people and his colleges for years this moment was coming?
Ben Bernanke who has been dead wrong for years about everything. Who made the Captain Thought Process statement in March of 2007 "At this juncture, the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime market seems likely to be contained."
Anyone want to bet his new words are going to haunt him?
... but for the wrong reasons.
When it comes to chose between Bernake and Paul. The choice is simple: NEITHER.
I am delighted you updated your talking points though...
but only because I haven't seen a good countering argument. But that's no reason to not get something fresh here. There is much about Ron Paul I do not agree with but his economics I think are better than Bernanke's, Krugman IMO is largely on the same page as he is.
I know how hard you try this "equal blame" idea. It's a load of crap to think repugs share this blame, it was their government for the last eight years, how hard were you whining when the Shrub took the national debt from 5 trillion to over 10 trillion? Yea, that's what I thought.
I was slamming Bush pretty hard here on C&L for at least the last two years, and have been as far back as 2003 on other sites after we made the dreadful mistake of invading Iraq. Yes NeanderBush doubled our national debt by recklessly spending on a two wars with money we didn’t have and unprecedentedly lowered taxes? WTF? What were we paying these wars with? Oh just our children’s future and China’s money with interest.
I save many of my posts so I can go back and reference some of the sources I use over time. In October 26 of 2007 I posted this on another site where I was debating with a wingnut:
But I blame both parties because this fiscal problem didn’t start with Bush, it goes back to 1913 and the formation of the FED, then the Vietnam War we have yet to pay off, the severing of the gold standard in 1971 under Nixon, grand experiment under Reagan and the idiot Art Laffer who was his economic adviser.
Watch Peter Schiff shred Laffer in 2006 on the then still lurking downturn and how wrong Laffer was
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfascZSTU4o
C&L posted a similar video - Peter Schiff was right
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/peter-sc...
Seeing those videos you can now understand how Alan Greenspan was able to start his insane grand experiment of deficit spend until we drop and punish the savers fiscal policy. Bernanke is little more than Greenspan’s lingering fart.
But then Clinton despite his popularity had some dirt occur under him as well, the CPI became the CPLIE where they fudged numbers using hedonic adjustments and also stopped counting people in unemployment people in statistics who had not worked in over a year, figuring they just didn’t want to work. All this was to make the economy appear to be healthier than it really was. Obama talked about these bogus measuring sticks loosely in his state of the union.
But Obama has made mistakes in his appointments
comparing a family's income and budget to the larger macroeconomic conditions we face is problematic.
i do partly agree that the govt must drastically cut spending, and it should be military spending that is slashed and dwarfed. also, i agree that the govt needs more revenue, so bringing the highest .1% tax rate up to the 60-70% should help with that.
but, there are lots of things the govt should spend on to stimulate the economy, and the spending should INCREASE: such as food stamps, and extended unemployment coverage.
giving no-strings-attached money to wall street, banks, etc. is the absolute worse way to go. i would rather do nothing (like you propose) than anything like TARP, or TARP II.
I respect that phrase from a PR standpoint; it sounds like a fantastical flight of fancy. The question I have, though, is, Who goes to Las Vegas and Disneyland? Republican voters.
that interstate corridor from las vegas to "disneyland" is heavily traveled. a high speed train has some sensibility. why? often there is so much traffic/congestion often at a standstill. so inefficient fuel use,
carbon monoxide and plenty of auto accidents. the reality is that route for high speed train is NOT in recovery bill.
rebuilt.
To hi-speed tolerances
is the future.
The fact that the GOP is so vehemently against something that's not even in the bill, even though it's not a bad idea at all, just showcases their utter disconnect with the will of the people.
Commuter trains are all light rail trains. The tracks between cities are all heavy gaged. The tracks within cities are designed to carry small trains with only a few cars. The heavy gaged tracks are designed to carry long trains sometime up too 2 miles in length. It's not economical to run communter trains on tracks that are designed for large trains. This has always been the big problem with AMTRAC. The cost of running and maintaining a big engine is pretty high.
We have 2 options. We can build a light track system; wich will costs lots and lots of money; or, we can regage the old track. Regaging is actually easier than it sounds. The track should be rebuilt every 20 years anyways. It hasn't been maintained the way it should, hence, the unusually high number of derailments in recent years. Regardless, all we have to do is regage it; and, it needs to be replaced anyways.
This would allow us to run commuter trains down existing routes economically. It would also allow us to integrate existing mass transit systems such as BART or the Portland MAX into a National Rail System.
The other plus side of this is that ligh rail systems cannot handle trains that are 2 miles long. They are good for about 20 cars at max. This would make our cargo rail system more labor intensive. It would still cost the same amount to run the system. It would just require less money for maintenance and more money for labor; cheaper parts more trains and employees. Less weight means less wear and tear on the equipment.
The other cool part about this would be this; part of the auto-industry could be retooled to build train engines and cars. All the older heavy gaged trains would have to be scrapped and recycled into new trains. This really does have the potential to employ millions of Americans.
Wait...not a bad idea actually...
But what about maglev?
I really think it would be cooler'n hell to have high speed maglev trains.
I like the idea of maglev. They are however very costly to build and should only be built along short heavily travelled cooridors. Between Sacramento and San Francisco would be a perfect place to build one. We have to keep in mind that the distance between American cities is far greater than the distance between Japanese or European cities. The Chinese are trying to cut the construction costs of maglev down to $25 million per kilometer. I suspect that the costs of building such a system in the States would run about $100 million per mile. Gotta factor in the corporate embezzlement, cash kickbacks, and profiteering.
Nah, none of that, especially in Vegas...
I wasn't aware that they weren't feasible over long distances...that sucks...
And you're right, fastfeat...not ANY of that mess in Vegas!
would reduce the pressure in LAX and LAS airports significantly.
And imagine how friggin sweet the scenery would be!
I say we do it!
Not only because it makes perfect sense, but also it would be akin to givin the GOP the finger.
Fuck those asshats!
and a party wagon to the train, you could literally pay for the whole train line in a couple of years.
People having a good time, using a relatively ecological and safe transportation option, which can be made and developed in the US of A... creating globs of revenue and jobs. Funny how only the GOP would think those would be horrible ideas/concept. Bad enough to be used as a negative talking point at least...
So what are the GOP proposing? That we end up homeless and miserable, as long as we get to keep our precious tax cuts. Which make a lick of difference when one is unemployed really...
I hope Florida gets something like that too...I'm not fond of flying anymore.
The GOP ain't proposin' jack shit!
They're stuck in opposition mode, in an infinite "NO" loop.
Fucktards.
where I did was that I could walk across US1 and hop a bus in the dedicated busway (with my bike), link to a train that runs every 15 minutes (until pretty late at night) and connect to another train that ran all the way to Palm Beach Co. Total cost, round trip, about $10. Great for going out boozing and getting back without a DUI. Not to mention, getting cool aerial views of the scenery. I loove trains.
visiting friends in Miami...and is excellent for a night of debauchery with no driving.
Hell, folks living in Newport Beach and Irvine would probably get a collection plate out if it will cut their noise level by 10%.
As someone who travels the route regularly, it's simply crazy not to have some sort of passenger rail service. My husband and I have always thought it would be efficient in so many ways. To provide passenger service with auto carriers so that you could ride between the two areas and take your own car with you makes sense, but that's probably why the flat-earthers don't like it.
And by golly, the silly things just DON'T use near enough oil!
There isn't much for a kid to do in Vegas.
I'd say, making s**t up...
Oh, maybe I wouldn't...
than just plain brain-dead.
It's no accident, just poor execution.
i'm NOT sure the (R) will ever change their strategy of "deception". it's very effective. many in the (R) demographic won't cross check info. they don't want the truth....self-deception. they may need to agree
with a different "culture". obama is trying to break/reveal this strategy. being truthful/correct is NOT the end game here. it's belonging/supporting your culture club at any expense.
The GOP has become a cartoon. A nasty, hateful cartoon with a disturbing ending.
Ralph Bakshi?
are you trying to tell me that last month, nobody in Louisiana got laid off and that 3700 people got hired?
Link..........
I'm cool w/Biden dishing crap, but link it, friend.
The disturbing part of the segment was the concern over throwing money to prop up 'zombie' banks. There's nothing worse for Obama now than to have a policy that resembles his predecessor's, and this part of the stimulus looks no different than what Bush did. Krugman is doing the country a service by expressing these honest concerns.
is at odds with, and detracts from, the seriousness of his message.
about any subject?
I am starting to suspect you are a chat bot programmed to mimic a depressive personality.
J/K
I put him on my Ignore user list a long time ago.
But then I figure others have already done the same to me.
But he has one or two redeeming qualities...
no way would I put you on my ignore user thingy...you're too damn funny.
And the correct figure is 1.46 redeeming qualities.
Thu, 02/26/2009 - 12:00 — liberalNmoderation
no way would I put you on my ignore user thingy...
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Sounds like anonymous nookie.
What did ever happen to nonny mouse?
Someone posts under the name 'they all suck' and you are surprised by their negative attitude? C'mon...
He started with Even Ann Coulter has Friends.
seriously... i can't help but shake my head in confusion as to what the GOP was thinking by rolling out little bobby jindal... that was an unmitigated failure. i imagine while mitt romney was preening his glossy coat in the lake's reflection he couldn't help but laugh to himself, thinking, 'serves them right for not voting for glorious me'
and, holy fuck me, the rish limbaugh threats to any rethug that disses little bobby? wow...
They are throwing out a new line of garbage. they have nowhere else to go but check out the the monday night sets at the slightly simian club. It has always been this way with these guys, but the last year has been absolutly first-class.
pretty pathetic response in every so many ways.
I felt like I was watching Sesame Street, and not the good version, which I enjoy. Part of me was so hoping that this is the guy that Repubs want to position as a nominee in 2012. He's cartoonish.
has a serious man crush on Bombin Bobby Jindal...
takes him back to a kinder, more simple time...when he was in the DR...
Declaring that Katrina proves the government is useless at dealing with disasters, and in the same speech ridiculing the notion of funding for volcano monitoring.
Stellar, wasn't it? lol!
the GOP tool was basically saying that "because the government should do nothing, they should be elected since they are masters at doing nothing."
For a GOPer to bring Katrina in a speech takes unmitigated gall and balls of reinforced industrial strength titanium...
most have forgotten about what bushco's failed efforts did to NO.
Fuck you Jindal.
Their group think is scary.
I have some conservative aquitances which are now acting as if the past 8 years never happened. They are bringing Clinton back fer crying out lout.
And that is exactly what the GOP leadership and their FOX mouthpieces are doing. Sometime I get the impression that the GOPers are some sort of alien race, that get beamed their talking points each night from the mothership.
They would be sort of pitiful if they weren't so damned dangerous.
Elsewhere, I have proposed "JingleBobby" Jindal as possessing the proper degree of snark and out-right disrespect.
Someone yesterday referred to him as "Slumdog Cadaver".
will probably be forgotten quicker than the plight of those living in the Mumbai slums once the next Oscar contender hits the screen.
Are you ready to BUUUUUMBLE!?!?!
republican committee meeting on their party's future:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh3m1aN9B5Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbN_MAUbLPM&fe...
Has got a good balance of racist/nativist snark and the obvious physical failings of the fellow...
(In keeping with the Brady Bunch theme).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJU7hJ2TUhc
Republicans have proven that there exists a point beyond even having no clue. Republicans have discovered the "Anti-Clue". And there I was thinking science wasn't their forte.
You know, President Obama has such problems to try to fix for all of us right now, why do these people have to make it more difficult? I just don't understand it. Don't they know if things get better it will get better for everyone? They are like someone standing in front of the door so the doctor can't get to the seriously ill person.
they don't want things to get better for "everyone"
Why? If they worked with the president and things do get better wouldn't it be better for them to be able to say they helped rather than say they hindered the process?
lots of reasons. some b/c they are racists. some are classists. others are just individualists. others are hardcore capitalists. others are just assholes. of course, more realistically, it is some combination of the above.
the problem is the varying conception of "better"
Speaking of "making stuff up", the USA Today reports that Obama committed a gaffe in his speech. Obama had said that "I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it." USA Today writer and automobile columnist James R. Healey points out Obama's error by noting that The Library of Congress believes that Karl Benz from Germany invented the first internal combustion-powered car, a three-wheeler, in 1885. Fellow German Wilhelm Maybach came along with a four-wheeler in 1886. American brothers Charles and Frank Duryea did build a car but that was not until 1893. Henry Ford then came along on the scene in 1896.
USA Today contacted the White House and White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki attempted to obfuscate the issue by claiming that "there may be some question about who invented the car" [there is no controversy as the Germans clearly beat the Americans to the punch] and then tried to save face by establishing American superiority by stating that "we still make the best cars right here in America." I suspect buyers of Honda and Toyota and BMW might take issue with her belief in the theory of American exceptionalism.
I just remembered John Belushi in "Animal House":
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
I knew there had to be a link somewhere for that quote. Thanks!
But then again Bluto is a personal hero of mine, so I may be biased.
The only question I have is: how could the country that kicked nazi ass in all sorts of ways, which put a motherf*cker on the moon just because we felt like it, and which produced Animal House. How could the same country elect a intellectually lazy monkey-human hybrid to preside over a collection of insanely boring Jesus freaks?
Where was the wrong turn we took collectively as a country?
But I think the star of that movie is John Vernon as Dean Wormer. I don't understand how he wasn't even nominated for an Academy Award.
'Put Niedermyer on it. He's a sneaky little shit just like you.'
I thought the star of the movie was the University of Oregon. Then again, I might be biased as I'm a 1991 grad of said institution.
I was there in '91 as well, but I didn't finish. Yeah, it's great to watch the movie to see the old U of O, but so much has changed. They tore down Delta House to expand the hospital back in the late 80s, as I recall.
It was for a medical building near Sacred Heart Hospital.
to discuss their future. This is the real meeting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbN_MAUbLPM&fe...
But, we all know that Cottage Grove was was the best damn place to have a parade!
Very true! It was chosen because it didn't go through the urban renewal that Eugene did. They showed a picture of a street in Cottage Grove taken in either the late 1800's or early 1900's and one taken this year. It hasn't changed.
Though Benz did actually invent the internal combustion engine, it was Ford, who 1st invented mass production for automobiles.
I think that's what Obama was referring to.
LiberalNmoderation
Nitpick? Did you actually take the time to read what I had written and especially the part that was written in quotes with Obama clearly saying that "I believe the nation that INVENTED [my emphasis] the automobile cannot walk away from it"? Or perhaps you missed the part, again in quotes, where the White House tried to deflect what Obama had said when the WH spokeswoman clearly said that "there may be some question about who invented the car". As you correctly note, Ford was the first American to mass produce the automobile. But Obama was not referring to mass production of that vehicle. Again, he made a clear statement that the United States ["the nation"] "invented the automobile."
All Ms. Psaki had to do was to have said that Obama was wrong in claiming that the United States "invented the automobile." But she could not and did not do that. Despite what you may THINK what Obama said, his actual statement indicates that he clearly SAID that this nation [i.e. the United States] "invented the automobile."
I suggestion that however much you may wish to engage in projection, your argument lies not in my alleged nitpicking, as you put it, but in Obama's erroneous statement.
Anything like bring it on, and mission accomplished?
The Country that invented the atomic bomb just can't drop it.
Erroll...if you want to go there, as far as mistakes made during a presidents speech...you might just want to reconsider.
bush is a gold mine for dumb shit!
Believe me there are mines for fertilizer.
In the book Dr. No, Ian Fleming had Bond investigating a bird poop fertilizer factory, after some American Bird Watcher societies complained about the mistreatment of some birds.
In the end, Bond kills Dr. No, by manning a bulldozer and dumping a load of fertilizer on him.
I guess you can say 007 bulls****ed him.
The automobile production line was not an American invention either. Prof. Renault of France established the first production line for his make of automobiles. After he studied English industrial engineering, which had introduced production lines for other products in the XIX century.
Ford improved the concept, basically creating the integrated production line. All components for the automobile were either manufactured and assembled by Ford, or obtained by subcontractors situated in the vincity of their factories. Basically Ford implemented the concept of vertical production. Which allowed for very aggressive pricing. Thus allowing for the "democratization" of the automobile.
Refining and optimizing car manufacturing is a far cry from "inventing the automobile" though...
The subject was the auto industry. I thought he was referring to the automobile in the context of Henry Ford and mass-produced affordable vehicles for working people. We definitely invented the car in that context.
Incidentally, Erroll doesn't seem aware that Honda makes 1000s of cars in the U.S., as does BMW, and Toyota, and Mazda, and Nissan, and Mitsubishi...
Joeeddugan
Actually I am aware of that. But Obama was not referring to the auto manufacturers that you named having invented the automobile. He was clearly referring to companies like GM and Ford which he is intent upon rescuing.
Also, like liberalNmoderation, you believe that Obama was somehow referring to Ford and and his mass-production line when he made no reference at Ford at all and, as I stated earlier, he clearly put forth, in his own words, that "the nation" [i.e. the United States] "invented the automobile."
Again, those are Obama's own words, clear as day [despite what the WH spokeswoman believes].
I did in fact read your statement, and I stand corrected.
But if that's all you got....then HA!
In the context in which I thought the President was speaking, I, and others, interpreted his 'invented the automobile' line in one way, while you and the folks at USA Today got another meaning from it. So What??
I interpreted the line about making 'the best cars' in America as including both foreign and domestic manufacturers. You feel that he was only referring to the Big 3, and that for some reason, in this time of all times, the President wished to send a gratuitous 'Fuck You' to the foreign auto companies that employ tens of thousands of Americans. That's fine. It doesn't bother me that you feel that way.
You pathologically seek to debate anyone with a worldview that diverges from yours in even the slightest way, all in order to prove that you are NOT a nitpicker.
Joeeddugan
"Pathologically"? I am unclear where that word would fit in as all I did was to reply to you by telling you that I am indeed aware of the fact that Honda, Toyota, and other foreign car manufacturers now have some of their auto plants in this country. You believe that Obama was referring to Ford and mass-production vehicles and I simply responded by quoting Obama's words which stated that "the nation" [i.e. the United States] "invented the automobile."
At no time did I engage in abusive behavior nor did I engage in ad hominem attacks against you or anyone else. I therefore am at a loss as to why you are so thin-skinned here. Or are you that upset because I have dared to criticize the great Obama?
I've criticized him before.
And likely will again.
Again, I admit my mistake. I was wrong.
And again, I say, if that's all you got...one incorrect statement in his entire speech....I say unto thee...HA!
And you are making this out to be WAY more of a big deal than it really is...
So...you can have your meaningless "victory" Erroll...
Doesn't change the fact that the GOP is run by a bunch of sociopathic cretins. And oh yeah...they have become irrelevant..
Just FYI.
Maybe Obama was eluding that Ford was the one that came up with the means to do assembly line for mass production.
Saying that Americans "invented the car" sounds much sexier than Americans invented the assembly line.
Great use of the Bluto quote by the way... One of my all-time favorite comedies.
no matter how "sexy" it sounds.
Hell I could say how "I invented the question mark, walked on the moon, and cured polio." Pretty damn sexy, but wrong and false... :-)
I'm not contesting that it's wrong Dr. Evil. It is wrong.
Maybe the conversation went like this:
Man 1: Maybe we can go for being sexy and wrong.
Man 2: It sounds better than being lame and correct.
Man 3: Regardless, we can still get Pelosi to stand up and applaud no matter what he says.
probably simply were mistaken. Not really much of a stretch here; most Americans believe Ford invented the automobile. I'll chalk it up to poor fact-checking.
And yes, some sort of correction is deserved.
Fastfeat
I agree. The WH spokeswoman could have easily ameliorated this by simply stating that Obama was wrong in making that statement. But as I pointed out in the 11:01 comment, she tried to stupidly save face by claiming that there is some doubt about "who invented the car". As the Library of Congress stated in the USA Today article, the Germans beat out the Americans by seven or eight years.
Ideally there should be no crime or egregious error in having another country invent a product before an American can. Unfortunately this administration seems intent upon proving that they can be just as unwilling to admit that they are wrong as their predecessors.
That you are attempting to make mountains out of molehills.
Mass production (Assembly line) sorry but the Germans weren't even close to the U.S.
Is it true he took his Family to Disneyland? Hell, he could stay at home, and live in Fantasy land.
With Goofy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1klByWeU7BQ
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It's Mardi Gras time - some (expected) 700,000 descended on NOLA.
Sorry this was a reply to Sirfifth above^
And honestly - you're going to post a link to Michelle Malkin on THIS blog?
If we're not making s**t up what are we doing for so long in the bathroom...oh wait...I think I know...
Has anyone asked rightwing morlock Sarah Palin what she thinks of Bobby Jindal's snide remarks about monitoring volcanic activity? Mainland Alaska and the Aleutian Islands are very volcano-active areas. Not only is there a danger of eruptions, but eruptions produce tsunamis. Not only is Alaska susceptible to tsunami danger from volcanic activity, but so are Washington state, Oregon and California. (Canada is too, but you guys don't count because we are not allowed to fund your danger-monitoring).
I beg someone in the media to contact Palin's ofice and ask if she is against economic stimulus money for building and staffing a volcano monitoring system (with well-paid, scientifically educated Americans) which will include monitoring the safety of Alaskans as well as Hawaiians, West Coasters and other American citizens (especially those in her beloved small towns).
Alaska contains over 130 volcanoes and volcanic fields which have been active within the last two million years.
Of these volcanoes, about 90 have been active within the last 10,000 years (and might be expected to erupt again), and more than 50 have been active within historical time (since about 1760, for Alaska).
The volcanoes in Alaska make up well over three-quarters of U.S. volcanoes that have erupted in the last two hundred years.
Alaska's volcanoes are potentially hazardous to passenger and freight aircraft as jet engines sometimes fail after ingesting volcanic ash. On December 15, 1989, a Boeing 747 flying 240 kilometers (150 miles) northeast of Anchorage encountered an ash cloud erupted from Redoubt Volcano and lost power in all four jet engines. The plane, with 231 passengers aboard, lost more than 3,000 meters (~9,800 feet) of elevation before the flight crew was able to restart the engines (Casadevall, 1994). After landing, it was determined the airplane had suffered about $80 million in damage.
We estimate, based on information provided by the Federal Aviation Administration, that more than 80,000 large aircraft per year, and 30,000 people per day, are in the skies over and potentially downwind of Aleutian volcanoes, mostly on the heavily traveled great-circle routes between Europe, North America, and Asia. Volcanic eruptions from Cook Inlet volcanoes (Spurr, Redoubt, Iliamna, and Augustine) can have severe impacts, as these volcanoes are nearest to Anchorage, Alaska's largest population center.
The series of 1989-1990 eruptions from Mt. Redoubt were the second most costly in the history of the United States, and had significant impact on the aviation and oil industries, as well as the people of the Kenai Peninsula. On the Kenai Peninsula, during periods of continuous ash fallout, schools were closed and some individuals experienced respiratory problems. At the Drift River oil terminal, lahars and lahar run-out flows threatened the facility and partially inundated the terminal on January 2, 1990 (Waythomas and others, 1998). The Redoubt eruption also damaged five commercial jetliners, and caused several days worth of airport closures and airline cancellations in Anchorage and on the Kenai Peninsula (Casadevall, 1994). Drifting ash clouds disrupted air traffic as far away as Texas. More information about the Redoubt 1989-1990 eruptions, including impact to people and infrastructure, is available here.
The three eruptions of Mt. Spurr's Crater Peak in 1992 deposited ash on Anchorage and surrounding communities, closed airports, made ground transportation difficult, and disrupted air traffic as far east as Cleveland, Ohio. Many older Alaskans also remember ash falling on Anchorage during the 1953 eruption of Mt. Spurr's Crater Peak
The 1912 eruption of Novarupta and Katmai, which formed the Valley of Ten Thousand Smokes on the Alaska Peninsula, was the largest 20th-century eruption on earth, and the largest historical eruption in Alaska. Ash from Novarupta spread worldwide, and is often still remobilized by strong winds. Roofs in Kodiak collapsed due to the weight of the ash; six villages close to Katmai and Novarupta were permanently abandoned.
Palin (aka- "crazy loon") -probably sees volcanoes as harbingers of the apocalypse.
Science Is Evil ………………but money $$$$$$ well that’s a different thing--hahaha
says Thanks, but no thanks to that Volcano Monitorirng money?
is one or more of her City's meth labs. You betcha.
Well don-cha know.
A daw-gone volcano warning system would interfere with god's wrath.
And us end-timers don't believe it is the governments place to warn people when god's feeling wrathful and angry.
*haha
How Reaganesque.
n/t
That one of his handlers would of known that you don't need a liscense or insurance to operate a small boat. It's not like its a car.
Forget Jindal!
The most important thing Krugman said was that Obama is following the failed policy of the Japanese.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpcAIQ_yPZg
http://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/images/carp...
As described by Car magazine (GB): "Big, ugly, and bound for the boulevard..."
Attack of the Monsters...bought it for a buck at a flea market...
Totally amazing too watch whilst partaking of the green.
Reagan was convinced that all those WWII training films he made in exchange for not being shipped overseas... counted as being exposed to enemy fire.
Wow...
a project that shouldve started 20 years ago, he was talking about lowering our dependence on foreign oil
bobby brady is an asshat
They ran a piece about criticism of Jindal's anti-volcano monitoring comment from Alaska (which has over 50 active volcanoes) and elsewhere. They quoted REPUBLICAN Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski as saying that Jindal was wrong and that volcano monitoring is crucial. But MSNBC erroneously listed Murkowski as a Democrat, making it seem like the criticism of Jindal on this point is just partisan.
though, I bet that if someone points out the mistake, they'd correct it on air.
Fox wouldn't.
Rather than spin-meisters.
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