From The Ed Show April 21, 2009. Pat Leahy responds to Dick Cheney's remarks and says if he feels so strongly about what he said, let him appear before his committee under oath and answer some questions.
John Amato:
Sen. Pat Leahy also wants a special prosecutor and a bipartisan commission to investigate the torture issue we've been presented with. He then took a very strong position against Jay Bybee and said that he should do the honorable thing and resign from the bench.
Leahy: If the Bush/Cheney administration told the truth about him, and he told the truth about what he did, he never would have been confirmed by the Senate. He never would have become a judge. I think the only decent and honorable thing for him to do now that these facts have come out is to resign. Resign for the good of the Judiciary. What he's done is a total blot on the and it reflects on him and the rest of the Judiciary and he should do the decent and honorable thing and step down.
The liberal blogosphere has been calling for him to be impeached, but if he was a true patriot he would step down and not bring a scandal to the bench. However, if a man can write a memo like that, then I highly doubt that is a realistic option.
I think Judge Bybee should read Digby's intense post called Torturers In Common, so he can take a hard look at what he has done.
This is growing bigger and bigger, thank God!!!!!!!!
or the transcript of the new Viagra ad?
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
I'm not convinced Congress has the stomach to do the right thing and move forward on this torture business. It will not be pleasant, as much as I might like seeing the crooks in the Bush administration exposed, and you know the right wingers will be shreeking the entire time. But do this we must. I believe most Americans can handle it, and will feel better in the long run. Not addressing it is like keeping some dirty family secret in the closet where it only continues to fester and contaminate for generations to come.
This MUST happen.
They really can't do much about it, other than shriek.
I mean, if a family member kicks the bucket at home, you just don't close the bedroom door and pretend everything's okay.
After a while, the smell is impossible to ignore. And while you may be pretending grandma is simply keeping to herself, everyone else in the neighborhood knows you have a rotting corpse hidden in the back bedroom.
Ross Perot referred to the Crazy Aunt. The Bates Motel had mama.
You have rotting Grandma. And don't get me started with Miss Haversham. Is this an extension of what PUMA was complaining about?
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Ol' Woman Crenshaw!
... or she's hiding in the basement because she's one of the Old Ones, and your family is really a Cult of Cthulu.
Instead of playing the blogosphere for air time and PR.
What would you have preferred a Mission Accomplished banner?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI9KhPJ-utE
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
now these guys have to be FORCED to do something not "talk about it" on a show it's been eight years now were still no better off complete the equation.
Issue the subpoenas and call out the Sargeant of Arms.
Stop all this back room Washington bullshit.
Take it to court. Let's finish this...once and for all.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Bring it on! America wants and needs to know just how corrupt Cheney, Dumbya, Right Wing judges and more to come criminal ilk were for many years.
Mister Big Dick all go, big balls, torture 'em all day Dick Cheney has been called out. So, DICK, do you have the stones to toss your bullshit under oath? C,mon. Man up. We know you're the big swinging DICK in Washington. You have might and right on your side. Put your money where your mouth is.
So, what do you say....DICK.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
dick is a dick but heres who's really running the show
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Leahy: "If the Bush/Cheney administration told the truth about him, and he told the truth about what he did, he never would have been confirmed by the Senate."
Interesting line of reasoning. ted stevens is using it too, only with a back-flip, but apparently no one's listening.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
without reading it now bashing Bush kind of funny in a sad way.
The more information comes out about the torture process, the more prosecution is going to seem like the best option. The Senate Armed Services Committee's report is pretty devastating -- when there was a huge amount of pushback from the military on using torture (the Navy, Air Force and Marines along with two law enforcement groups objected) Rumsfeld simply subverted the process and went to the OLC for their okay based on the flimsiest of rationales. Prosecution is absolutely called for.
Dick Cheney is an evil presence on the planet. Scooter Libby was his right arm. Donald Rumsfeld was the sweaty spot under Cheney's balls.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The terrible taint.
http://uashome.alaska.edu/%7Edfgriffin/websit...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
the MSM isn't pushing the public on this issue.
...but I think this steady release of memos and reports will build the understanding of what was done and how awful the reality was compared to the Bushies' spin of it. But the MSM will be the last to tune into the reality of it.
Cool handle btw.
n/t
If it's on FOX, the exact opposite is true.
But the media seems to be hypnotized, still following Karl's pocket watch as it swings back and forth ... back and forth ... so hard to think now ... just repeat after me ...
Somebody didn't know how to calibrate an effective Anthrax dose. Damn are these guys stupid or what?
In my lifetime i've been injured by the Government cover-up via the COMMISSIONS.
The two barf triggers : Warren and 911 . Nough said.
You forgot the faked moon-landing, and the secular humanist plot to teach school chidren that the earth is round (okay, pear-shaped.)
And let's not forget about Intelligent Gravity.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Intelligent Gravity? That's a new one to me. Care to elaborate.
Looks like Dick took just about everything he could gain from the Bush Family and now that they have nothing to offer him in his quest for wealth and power, he is done with them.
When do you think they will get the hint?
By the way, does anyone know where Rumsfeld is these days?
Decent? Honorable?
I think ol' Pat forgot who he was dealing with here.
I love how Ed Schultz goes hard in making his points. Other liberal talkers need to do the same
Leahy:
“This is the administration that on September 10th wanted to cut almost in half all of the the Antiterrorism funding….”
Humm!
Why?
Perhaps they were waiting for the new "Perl Harbor"?
as written by PNAC IN 2000.
that Cheney's response to Leahy's subpoena will be "go fuck yourself."
"Diplomatic immunity..."
I don't care if he resigns or not. He should be prosecuted.
There's already enough evidence for him to be disbarred - doesn't that force him out of a federal judgeship?
It's reassuring that you have people like Leahy in the Senate, yet I feel he may be a minority these days. Let's hope he can get others to listen.
far left loon >.<
this is a minor point compared to the "slam dunk" criminality of the bybee memo-it fails as a work product,as well.legal "cover" is not the same thing as legal analysis.except in limited areas where a corporation might be looking for loopholes in labor,disability,civil rights,consumer protection law etc,the client would require much more nuance than bybee,hu,addington etal provide-these guys seem to EXCLUDE all the material which refutes their predetermined conclusions and cherry picks the rest of the evidence.there is a gratuitous acknowledgement of the subjective nature of the law,the understandable paucity of cases,and ominously,the unpredictability of jury behavior.the rest of it is pumped up debate team claptrap with a little legal mumbo jumbo thrown in 'cause its supposed to be a legal memorandum.except in the narrow in house area i mentioned,jig rigged stuff like the bybee memo gets you in trouble in the private sector-trouble with clients for sure,and possibly with the bar association.when you provide the government with crap providing "legal" cover for torture they make you a damned federal judge.i don't really buy sen leahy's sub textual remark which implies that no-one in the senate knew about bybee's memos before he was confirmed-but his tone gives the impression that HE did not know.there is a remedy here,lets hope its used.
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