Pat Buchanan Pretends the Willie Horton Ad Wasn't Racist
From Hardball Oct. 16, 2009. Pat Buchanan cites the Willie Horton ad as one of the reasons the "Tea Party people" liked George H.W. Bush and says it hit one of their "themes". When Matthews points out the overt racism in the ad, Buchanan back tracks and tries to say the ad had nothing to do with race, but only with turning murderers loose on weekend passes.
Pat Buchanan must think most MSNBC viewers have no idea who Lee Atwater is.
MATTHEWS: Pat, I have heard that some of the people that you`re in touch with on the right, the people -- the Tea Party people, they began to get disillusioned with the Republican party, as you did, I believe, personally, when Bush came in, Bush I came in. They don`t think he was one of them culturally, ideologically, whatever.
BUCHANAN: It wasn`t when he came in, Chris, because he had a lot of support from conservatives. He beat Dukakis by running -- remember those ads, the flag thing, Willie Horton and all that? He hit all these themes that hit these people when he won. When we broke with him and Perot broke with him, he was a big spender. He was adding regulations. He had a quota bill in. He had all these different bills, legislation. He was working with the Congress.
He became a man of the city of Washington, D.C. And these folks are anything but. At one point when I was running in may of 1992, Chris, Perot was leading in the polls, a three-way race with Clinton and Bush. He had 40 percent. That`s who these folks are.
MATTHEWS: If Perot hadn`t proven he was a bit off the beam, he might have went down better. But didn`t you just make a mistake there, Pat? You said, as long as he was against Willie Horton, he was OK with the Tea Bag guys. A lot of people thought that Willie Horton thing smacked of tribalism?
BUCHANAN: Willie Horton was, in fact, a big Massachusetts liberal, turning murderers loose on weekend passes. He`s nuts. If it would have been Charlie Manson, they would have said the same thing.
MATTHEWS: Pat, clinically, you`re right. But that Shroud of Turin picture -- that Shroud of Turin picture of Willie Horton had an aspect to it that went to criminal justice. Let me go to -- and responsible justice.
In addition to the fact that the Willie Horton ad was racist, the law which give Horton a weekend release, was passed under the Aministration of Dukakis's republican predecessor .
Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
nothing is going to get better. It's not.
- Dr. Suess
"Mayor Quimby even let loose convicted criminal Side-Show Mel.
So vote Side-Show Mel for Mayor!"
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And as soon as, "read my lips, I'm lying," left, republicans were grumbling, "He really wasn't one of us."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I'm sure Pat Buklansman wouldn't find this ad racist either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIyewCdXMzk
After the epic failures of Bush I - AND Bush II - so many GOPhers like to claim neither were from their party?
ROFL!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I can almost understand their claim about George I but Little George II was their idea. It is what the Republican leaders wanted. Out of every single Republican in the United States Little George II was the one they CHOSE to be president. Now they want to disown him? Ok, Willie Horton was not a racist ad.
Racists NEVER think their POV is racist. PERIOD.
You can bust them on it, expose their lies, show them how and why they actually ARE racist or their comments are . . .
They just refuse to admit it - and they always will.
Just like the Justice of the Peace refusing to marry the mixed race couple doesn't think his position was racist.
Same mindset for most all racists.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
You could catch them mid-lynching and they would claim it had nothing to do with race.
But, these are the people who have spent over 400 years trying to justify slavery as the Will of God, so, their moral relativism is not new. Sickening, yes, new, no.
george wills?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
defy the Will of George?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5-3jQwbDi0&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Pat Buchanan have an apartment at MSNBC?
It sure seems so, hmmm? He shows up way too often. Too bad he cannot be 'evicted'!!!
This is why I don't like Tweety. Why bring it up if you're going to join Buchanan in mealy-mouthing around the issue?
Buchanan wrote an op-ed in the WSJ during the election in which he used one derogatory racial steroetype after another to describe Obama negatively - and he never got busted for it. Instead, he's treated like some sort of expert on race?
He's on MSNBC EVERY day, somebody there must approve of him.
smack the wrinkles off that dinosaur buchanan...
Pat is so intellectually dishonest, he would argue in favor of slavery.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I think he has done so.
Seriously
Here is a taste:
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Someone at MSNBC approves of him - and his racism - or he would not be on, or at least not on as much as he is.
Given his name...he must be a descendent of the Buchanans...well known slave owners and racists.
Now, I'm not sayin' he's a racist...I'm just sayin'. ;o)
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
that if Alan Grayson had been on that show, this discussion would have gone down very differently.
What a bunch of pusillanimous equivocating.
Spiro?
I dunno, what agnew with you?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Takeaway line . . .
"We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?" (for slavery?)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I don't think the Tweetster has EVER had Alan Grayson on his show.
I would LOVE to see Tweety, Buchanan, and Grayson at the same time on "Softball"....
Tweety and Buchanan would probably stroke out.
Oh...and by the way...
"Willie Horton was a big liberal..."
Sure he was.
The senility...the senility.....
(apologies to Apocalypse Now...)
Talking Head Boy.
"MATTHEWS: If Perot hadn`t proven he was a bit off the beam, he might have went down better. But didn`t you just make a mistake there, Pat? You said, as long as he was against Willie Horton, he was OK with the Tea Bag guys. A lot of people thought that Willie Horton thing smacked of tribalism?
BUCHANAN: Willie Horton was, in fact, a big Massachusetts liberal, turning murderers loose on weekend passes. He`s nuts. If it would have been Charlie Manson, they would have said the same thing.
MATTHEWS: Pat, clinically, you`re right. But that Shroud of Turin picture -- that Shroud of Turin picture of Willie Horton had an aspect to it that went to criminal justice. Let me go to -- and responsible justice."
Sounds to me the only beam these two are on is a liter of what is distilled by that Beam named Jim.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
"Pat Buchanan must think most MSNBC viewers have no idea who Lee Atwater is."
That's a reasonable assumption, unfortunately.
We call this public service? the bush's and republicans in general never serve anyone but themselves. The whole republican party was built upon self help, greed, and pedophilia. The whole party is just bullshit and lies at the top and idiots and morons at the bottom.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
"MSNBC continues to pretend that Pat Buchanan is not a lying embarrassment to the network AND the country".I mean really, he should have been shown the door ,or traded to Faux for someone with an ounce of integrity,loooooong ago.
No Brainer here:
The Willie Horton Campaign Ad = RACISM/RACIST.....Very short post here indeed for such a non-debatable item.....
Buchanan's body has moved into the future, but his head is still in 1992.
I guess he remains on tv long after his expiration date, as we watch him descend into that confused old man stage.
All cylinders are not firing.
bombast like Matthews would conflate the Shroud of Turin with the Willie Horton ad. I can't take Matthews and I certainly can't understand why Pat BuKKKlansman is given all this air time on MSNBC. BuKKK is a nazi sympathizer and racist. Why do his opinions matter???
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
So, Don Webber, perhaps YOU need a bit of a history lesson or at the very least, a lesson in not leaving people with a false impression aka a half truth.
Yes, it is quite true that Dukakis' Republican predecessor signed the furlough program in to law. It happened. I don't deny it.
What YOU fail to add on to that, is that the law forbade the release of murderers. Under Dukakis, the Mass Supreme Court ruled that even murderers get to be eligible for the parole. After the legislature wrote up a law to ban murderers from furlough, Dukakis VETOED the bill.
So point fingers where it's due. Plain and simple, Willie Horton was released because Dukakis was beholden to the ACLU.
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