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That great defender of downtrodden white men, Pat Buchanan, was at it again with his "affirmative action" rhetoric on Sonia Sotomayor, but this time he gets tag-teamed by Norah and Lawrence O'Donnell for his idiocracy. Pat just can't believe that President Obama's final four choices for the court were....gasp...all women. The horror!

Buchanan: Look, are you going to let me talk, Lawrence? You got down to four women, not a single white male...all women, and then we're going to pick a Hispanic....

Norah O'Donnell: Did it ever occur to you Pat, that maybe there weren’t any white men who were qualified?

Buchanan: Yes.... No, it did not occur to me. You mean there are no white males qualified? That is an, that would be an act of bigotry to make a statement like that.....

Norah O'Donnell: In the past there have been no women who were qualified.

Buchanan: There certainly have been qualified in the past. I don't doubt there are but probably half of the great lawyers and judges are white males in this country and to rule them all out...why? Because of their sex and because of their race is wrong! I think at least it's affirmative action.

Norah O'Donnell: Pat I don't think you have any proof of that they did that. The President was reportedly...

Buchanan: How did he come down to four women?

Nora O'Donnell: He said that they were the best and that's the views that he had, the particular criteria that he had.

Buchanan: What were the criteria? One of them was it had to be a woman and the other it got down to being, hey it's a Hispanic. That's affirmative action!

Norah O'Donnell: Lawrence, you want to offer a rejoinder to that?

Lawrence O'Donnell: Well Pat, if it gets down to four, you’re suggesting it’s an absolute outrage if the final four are women. If got down to final four and they were all white men, would that bother you in the least?

BUCHANAN: I don’t say it’s an outrage, I say it’s affirmative action. They were picked because she’s a woman and a Hispanic and you know it as well as I do.

[.....]

Lawrence O'Donnell: Hopeless argument, Pat. It’s like, it's like watching a dead fish flop around on the deck. You’re dead on this one, Pat. It’s all over.



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yes pat, obama probably chose her because she was highly qualified and a woman and a minority.
read 'em and weep.
thank you for playing.

The part these patriarchal xenophobes seem to be missing is that someone holding the views of a woman and a minority is a quality to embrace in our courts.

That said, if they really looked at her record it doesn't seem they have nearly as much to fear as they think they do. She's far from a "Code Pink" dirty hippie liberal. She's very much in the "new Democrat" variety which is basically just a Republican before the the psycho-Christian/culture-warrior takeover.

)O(

As long as she doesn't own a fleshy white penis on her person, she's going to destroy the world.

/snark

Mine is named, and when armed, a force for good in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmHTcR2kHfY

buchanan is such a blowhard...

I mean, it sure sounds like he believe there must be a minimum requirement.

Paintball

Laser

Or Marine Biologists?

I like that you mentioned marine biologists, since that's what my husband is and he does tag sea turtles. :)

I doubt if he would be interested in putting a tag on Pat as no one gives a damn about where Pat goes or when. The study of his life has no importance to anyone.

... tagging Buchanan is it would mean we get to toss him in the ocean and observe his migratory patterns.

We already know his migratory pattern. He swims to msnbc and then swims in circles toward the right. The circles get smaller and smaller each year and narrower and narrower...just like his mind.

... toss him in the drink anyway?

Okay, but please, not in my drink.

)O(

... fine. We'll replace our justice system with a set of polyhedral dice.

Buchanan gets a -2,787,020,955 to his roll for being a racist dickhead.

Only Limbaugh is less qualified to discuss race.

BTW...Buchanan should be tired by now of yet another ass whipping from O'Donnell.

)O(

Especially a 400 meter race.

You have high expectations for those guys...

They'll finish the 100-meter dash in the same amount of time it takes the average high school runner to complete the 400.

Why is Buchannan so afraid of women? Is he afraid if more women take on more duties the world will realize the earth doesn't spin around only white men?

of blacks too.

Let's put it in a nutshell, he's afraid of anyone who doesn't look like him.

Which is anyone not of the christofascist Bush fringe of strait-jacket republican crackpots.

when he finds out that god is a Latino woman?

He will be furious that there were no men nominated for the position.

Of course, if I would be surprised if God was a white male with a big beard, a lightening bolt, and a kid named Jesus.

Mr. Buchanan is old school Roman Catholic and is a purported member of Opus Dei and such, all women are supposed to be subservient to men. Which makes me wonder about his sister, Bay Buchanan.

Also a point of fact, 5 of the Supreme Court justices identify as Roman Catholics. Can you name them?

It shouldn't be surprising that Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas are. Kennedy is number 5, and that's not to say that he being one is surprising, it's just that the others being the consistant conservative / right wing of the SCOTUS, it's not surprising at all.

Pat wants affirmative action for qualified (or unqualified) conservative white men but no affirmative action for qualified female minorities.

Pat thinks nothing of having "heads" come up four times in a row for years. Pasty old white men each and every time. Never questioned it then.

Then when it happens that he gets four "tails" it's a conspiracy. Pat will never question the credentials of a Bush, Rover, Cheney, Wolfowitz type, but can't understand how a Phi Beta Kappa, summa cum laude, law journal editor could be intelligent.

We need to weed out hypocritical pasty white fat men from our species. They have had the gavel too long.

What an ignorant mother fucker. In our Nation's 233 years, the Supreme Court has been all white males except for O'Connor, Ginsberg, and Marshall(yeah, Thomas doesn't count) and now this hopeless racist wants to cry out concerning the lack of representation from white males on the Court?

This old man is sick.

Ever hear of the National Association for the Advancement of White Male People? The NAAWMP?

Perhaps you've head of it by it's more common name: "The US Congress".

... the Wisdom of Having Ideological/Theological Extremists Defend the Undisguised Male Bias For Unifying Courts & Keep the Empire/Reich Secure.

Hee

Nice.

"good ol' boy network"?

... that in Buchanan's addled pate, the 233 years of 'all white males' shows that the 'all white male' concept works really well, and we shouldn't mess with success.

thats 233 out of 6000 years.

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Pat

I am so sick of seeing the pig. He's on in the morning and again in the evening and again on Sunday. Doe's he have a life?

Brat Buchanan strengthens the conviction of many of us that if someone is a homophobe, that person is also a racist, a xenophobe, and a sexist at the very least. And probably has a miserable sex life. They're scared of just about everything.

Form his Wikipedia bio:

"Buchanan has English, German, Scots Irish, and Irish ancestry.[2] He had a great-grandfather who fought in the American Civil War on the Confederate side. He is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans[5] and admires Robert E. Lee. ... Buchanan married White House staffer Shelley Ann Scarney in 1971. They have no children."

Hmm, what's an old-fashioned, anti-Vatican II, White Supremacist Catholic boy doing in a childless marriage? Makes one wonder at what his real predilections are.

Palin/ Buchanan - 2012
picture that show

she's a pro-corporate judge. That's the only thing that *really* matters to our political types.

They have a hard time checking the little M or F box when filling out forms, but they have adopted scores of needy politicians and judges.

Corporate personhood throws America's humanist, enlightenment values out of whack and will probably be America's downfall with the second amendment assuring that the fall will be bloody (and loud).

Do people like Buchanan get paid every time they show up on a tv show? If they do, he must be rolling in money.

he shouldn't be getting more than minimum wage.

he shouldn't be getting minimum wage
minimum wage requires a brain

Yep and it ain't chicken feed.

Of course Obama wanted to pick a woman and that was the criteria. Why is this point being argued? O'Donnell validated Buchanan's bigotry by arguing otherwise. This was a useless discussion, as are most cable news discussions. Just another example of Democrats shying away from certain labels like "affirmative action" instead of defending their actions.

More relevant would have been a discussion of how a historically predominantly all white male Supreme Court has been constructed by purposely overlooking equally qualified non-white or female candidates.

Buchanan: Yes.... No, it did not occur to me. You mean there are no white males qualified? That is an, that would be an act of bigotry to make a statement like that.....

Oh lord..."yes..no...maybe..I can't think I can't think...I'm being oppressed! White men are being oppressed! The vaginas are oppressing me! My penis is shrinking my penis is shrinking!!!"

)O(

Lucky bastard.

)O(

Pat would love to see the Supreme Court stacked with conservative white male moralist Catholics like himself. Guess he's not satisfied with the 2 that are already there. That's 22% of the Supreme Court already. the one Latino woman would be 11% of the Supreme Court.

Your affirmative action quota on the court has been filled Pat!

...Uncle Clarence Thomas was an absolute affirmative action selection.

Of course he was, and since he's been up there he'd done everything he can to make sure no other minority gets the same opportunity he has had.

Now if someone would appoint a thrice divorced, drug addicted, combat dodging chickenhawk, white male pedophile on the court, then the Limbaugh quota would be filled and that would shut Rush up.

spokesperson (you) has over-stayed his vacation time in the 21st century and is being called back to do some whitewashing of picket fences in Hell. Buh-bye...

Scream out the right wings talking points no matter what. Give a slight complement, then smear discounted facts about whoever he disagrees with. The new right wing coined wording is now "reverse racism" you will be hearing this more often.

"Reverse Racism" is soooo 1980s.

I don't even understand what it is.

The claim is that any type of program that gives preferential treatment to an "underclass" (i.e. a group that is underrepresented due to covert or overt "racism" within a society, either by color, creed, gender or economic level) is inherently skewed against the "privileged" groups (i.e. white males).

Read the "Bakke decision". That is the banner that oppressed white males wave all the time.

It is the old "quota" buggaboo that the right wing likes to trot out. Of course, they don't understand that quota systems DO NOT exist, and that affirmative action programs do not utilize quotas.

And using the "reverse racism" charge is simply the old code worded "red meat" for the racist wing of the GOP.

... letting a few minorities or women into the club is fine, but then it's time to reassert the white male Christian power structure.

It's a consequence of thinking 'numbers' rather than understanding the prejudicial thinking that brought about the need for balance in the first place.

Thank you. I think I'm getting a better understanding now. So the reason I didn't understand it is because in reality it doesn't exist. It's just a hue and cry.

Exactly.

Weee! I have learned something today. I'm smarter now than when I woke up this morning. I'd say I'm good to go for the rest of the day. Thanks everyone!

The reality and crying is about the hue. They could live if it was just another white woman.

)O(

Actually that's hew and cry,

Good double entendre though.

)O(

It's like fashion. Every 20-30 years it comes back in vogue.

If a white person says they just don't like black people, that's racism. So if a white person says they just don't like white people, is that reverse racism?

Only if the white person nominates Clarence Thomas.

Clarence Thomas is black? Somebody better tell him.

I hear that his prime napping time is when he's in the midst of his judgery.

(Yes, I made up that word, and I like it, thankyouverymuch.)

can certainly empathize, what with the siesta being such a big part of Hispanic culture. Just like waterboarding.

During his time on the SCOTUS, how many majority opinions has Clarence Thomas written?

Zip! Zero! None!

Now, how many questions has he asked during a case presentation?

high tech lynching question?

He's among the whitest black men around. Thomas and Gumbel need to do something quick... Micheal Steele is going to overtake the both of them.

Steele reminds me of my former non-African American friends that try to pretend that they are urban and hip.

He has not shown much sympathy. Bet he has not given one cent to this worthy cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jTM4ZOa69U

Pat is nothing more than a pinata for Lawrence. I just hope he doesn't verbally smack him too hard because I don't want to see what might come out of Pat.

... confetti, trinkets, and candy for the kids, that's fer sure.

Piss, wind, Metamucil, Viagra, his KKK hood, his binky, and those nasty generic peanut butter candies that no one can even sell to Trick or Treaters at Halloween.

There are probably more than 1000 people qualified to be on the Supreme Court. Does Patty think that Clarence Thomas was the most qualified to be nominated when he was nominated? There is nothing wrong with Obama wanting to put a woman on the Court. Nothing at all. There are many many women who are qualified. At least half the total of all who are qualified. He whittled his list down to 4. He then chose the one he thought was the best for various reasons. It is his choice. It is not Patty's choice or Gingrich's choice or Tancredo's choice or Beck's choice. The bottom line is Sotamayor qualified? Of course she is. Patty's argument is silly at best.

would be my choice. It is being reported that she leans toward the corporate side but as you say it is Obamaa's choice.

That's correct. I would have chosen Michelle Obama.

as Bobby Kennedy was to be Attorney General.

Or Al Gonzales.

qualification ladder that also involved nepotism as the basis of my comparison.

If you want the bottom rungs rotting from the fetid pool of cronyism, that is your choice.

Pat's idea of qualifications are:

- White instead of Minority
- Male instead of Female
- Conservative instead of Liberal
- Christian instead of Non-Christian

So a white male Christian conservative is the perfect pick! Why even bother with a Latina?

and this last batch of Christian Conservatives have done such a bang-up job for this country in the past 30 years.

just has his panties in a bunch.

Try a bigger size.

would only compound the bunching. Ask Tyler. Its physics.

)O(

I've always thought Lawrence was bit awesome when he came on Al Franken's show... Lawrence just increased his status in my book.

So Pat explain something to me?
Harriet Miers

Not a single white male on the final 4. Pat your all washed up...

C'mon Pat loves America. Where else can you be a bigoted blowhard who knows it's his duty to exercise freedom of ignorant speech even if it's demeaning to others. It's his job. He gets paid to annoy. Who else would you rather see than this opinionated dinosaur who finishes every thing he says with a self-appreciated giggle?

Is the panic of all the right wingers.

The realization that the world they believed existed (it never did) does not exist anymore.

The realization that their views don't matter. That their views are archaic, small minded and irrelevant.

The realization that all societies advance, and it is intellectualism, empathy and progressive thinking that allow them to advance.

The realization that it is OVER.

It's not even 'conservative' in a proper sense.

Given that all societies advance, a conservative stance would be to advance slowly ... not 'close our eyes, hum really loud, and ignore the world changing around us'.

Not sure we can always say societies "advance". For instance, humanity hasn't advanced to the point where brutal leaders are NOT chosen who indulge their lust for war and killing. We haven't advanced to a point where it's known that war and killing are NOT the most effective use of power. We haven't advanced to a point where power is legitimized only in those who have the interests of the world in mind. That's when power adopts much more effective and humane ways of furthering its interests.

But we CAN say societies change. :-)

We aren't really going to get into THAT discussion, are we?

I mean..c'mon...you're just a little gal. ;o)

Kidding KIDDING!! LOL!

LAP

Watch it, or I'll make you watch Pat Buchanan 24 hours a day, with 5-minute Michelle Malkin breaks at the top of every hour. Pat's voice alone should be enough to eventually cause physical damage to your body-parts.

Leave my body parts outta dis.

At my age, I have a hard enough time keeping the working parts working!!

.

:-)

Me, too...

And it sounds to me as if Pat Buchanan's stopped working years ago since he now sings tenor, at least when he's agitated.

This is what happens when people deny evolution. They get stuck and never move forward.

With over half the population being female statistically there should be at least as many females qualified as males. The real problem is Obama's nominated another corporatist who buys into the "corporations are people too" BS.

I'm not 100% sold on this nominee yet. I like her background, her grassroots appeal, but I've gotten more familiar with some of her rulings and for me she's simply not "liberal" enough.

I do. however, disagree with the concerns of the pro abortion groups. Roe v. Wade is NEVER going to be overturned. You can take that to the bank. Never never never.

The fact is that honest polling shows that a majority of Americans want choice. They may find abortion personally abhorrent, but the fact is that women want the OPTION, and since women outnumber men in the population it's not hard to figure out why the polls skew the way they do.

republican in the last thirty years have done more harm to our country and it's people then binladen could ever do!
republicanism is a mental illness!
no other conclusion can be arrived at.

Former speechwriter for Tricky Dick Nixon, Pat Buchanan is a throw back to the 1960s. He's a proud, flag-waving, Irish Roman Catholic, Republican conservative who blames the hippies, the women's movement, race riots, anti-war protesters, abortionists, gays, and immigrants for destroying the good ole days in America.

While Buchanan continues to worship and defend Wasilla Sarah as the ideal female Republican and future GOP presidential material, he disparages and diminishes Sonia Sotomayor's intellect, education, and accomplishments. In Buchanan's world, the only possible explanation is Sotomayor's race, gender, and her "affirmative action" opportunities. Because of her race, gender and ethnicity, she is stealing a seat on the Supreme Court from a more deserving white man.

Buchanan's America is a white man's world. Women are attractive, religious, and dumb, preferably stay-at-home, barefoot, and pregnant, put on this earth to serve their men. Ambitious, accomplished, intelligent, powerful women(Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Sonia Sotomayor, Michelle Obama) are characterized as bossy, brash, manipulative, angry bitches. MSNBC would do its viewers a huge favor by retiring the racist old coot.

Someone at MSNBC, a producer perhaps, has a serious crush on crusty-ol' Pat, and would probably dry hump his leg if given the chance.

Occam's Razor folks...

I can't think of another reason as to why they keep bringing him back. He contributes nothing of substantive value to the political conversation.

So... when it comes right down to it... The Conservative mindset is this: If the woman is somewhat beat-off material, that's good, no matter how idiotic she may be. However, an intelligent woman that is less than eye candy is reduced to being a bitch or a shrill.

Buchanan is an entertaining foil (increasingly for Lawrence O'Donnell). Kind of what Alan Colmes' role was for Sean Hannity.

That's an even easier explanation as to why they keep inviting Pat to appear on MSNBC: He makes them laugh.

with a humorous woman of color with recent experience in the political commentary field. Anyone come to mind?

Maybe he's kept on MSNBC as an example of a conservative white man. You cannot get anyone who acts more ridiculous and pathetic and means it then he does. He's like the old man at family gatherings who just keeps going on and on about why things are like they are, who no one actually listens to. You smile and nod your head if he catches your eye, and then give him another piece of pie so you can make your escape.

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..dead fish don't flop!

they just lie there and stink.

but they do evacuate their bowels.

)O(

Flat chested wimmin?

Are in the eyes of the beholder.

)O(

I'd beholden that.

it is fascinating to watch old white men, who have lived a lifetime of preferential treatment, come unglued over the possibility that being something other than white and male is an advantage

as a woman who grew up poor in the sixties and seventies, i had to learn to negotiate the dominant male world as well as the world of women, and the world of the underclass, as well as the world of the dominant, comfortable classes . . . this need to be multi-culturally fluent often seemed to be a burden, until i found myself attending ivy league schools among those who were not so fluent . . . most dramatic were my years at yale law school, where my ability to see a problem from so many different angles proved to be a real advantage . . . and i realized that being "worldly" can mean so much more than just traveling to europe and eating in exotic restaurants

sonia sotomayor has experienced most of the places and pursuits of her successful, male peers, but she has also experienced so much more . . . is it inconceivable that she can offer the court a rich, new perspective?

Sounds like poor little pat buchanan is afraid of girls. He's probably a founding member of the "He-man Women Haters Club".

The oath of loyalty:

He-man Women Haters Club.

when you're 8 years old...women are bunk.

After that, men spend all their time trying to get women into their bunk.

womens' bunks. It's usually easier to leave theirs' after doing the deed than tossing them out of yours...

same sex parents? Most heterosexual men do not give a damn about whose bunk it is. The floor will do. Its the pants they want in.

)O(

Oh say can you see the loss of my White Liberty for thee I sing, Its not fair Itell you its not suppose tobe this way. We of the white majority knows what is best and we can prove it just listen tothe twist lies and manipulations and half truths.

My grand mother taught me to look at things very practically.

Who we're those responsible for the screwed up mess that is Iraq? STUPID WHITE MEN.

Who we're those responsible for the financial RAPE of the american people

and continues to this day?? STUPID WHITE MEN.

Now 1 + 1 = 2, WOMEN RULE THE DAY.PERIOD.

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I think all of you are being a little to hard on Pat. You see, things really are getting rough for white men, look at the facts:

-- Sarah Palin, a non-white man, nominated for VP when there are plenty of equally qualified white men who should have been nominated. Why couldn't a white man neutralized the Hillary factor?

-- Michael Steele, a non-white man, given control of the RNC. Surely there were white men equally qualified for the job of neutralizing the Obama factor.

You can see, the vaggies and darkies are clearly starting to impinge upon the ruling whiteys god given right to tell us all how to live our lives.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Oh My. They'll probably eat Toto, too.

)O(

Oh no...

Whatever will we do without

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f-cEM1l7Ks

?

I don't think so, because the animals are questioning that "dominion" thing from the Babble, I mean Bible, too. Very few of them are white. Be very, very afraid.

...

Pat's twin brother Archie was on TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjNJI54GMM&fe...

)O(
...

heres a guy that knew the 'earl bidness ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbDmi52dVTI

...Eric Boehlert from Media Matters just called Limbaugh the MLK for the rich, old, racist white man's civil rights movement.

be a forged Oxycotin scrip he slips to his housekeeper?

This is why neolithic apes like pat buchanan are still on the MSM scene. They want that "fiery debate", and without total idiots/morons/repug-fascist party members, it would be a "discussion" or maybe even a "rational debate".

Get pat on, and you know you are going to have this oh so popular "fiery debate" from an ass hat that insults the intelligence of educated people everywhere.

Why else would she-man coultier, vannity, bor, newt, limpballs, savage, buchanan, etc. be on the scene, except for that oh so important "fiery debate". Put up one or more guests without their white hood, and you've got a "fiery debate" alright. Idiots....LAND OF MORONS!!

"infotainment"

they call it "news".

Always predictable. And good for laughs and sound-bites that the DNC can include in its upcoming (I hope) Ad entitled "Republicans Judge Judge Sotomayor", starring Newt, Steele, Inhofe, Ensign, Rush, Rove...in their own words. To be shown in every congressional district with at least 10% hispanic population. Finally, a reminder to Buchanan and others of his ilk: If it was good enough for Ronald Reagan to do, it should be good enough for Obama.

Buchanan always proves to be the huge, ignorant, conservative bigot we all know and also loves parroting Limp-Dick's daily talking points and lies. He's senile.

The sad truth is that the fact that she's a woman and a latina is being used as discussion point says it all in itself.

So affirmative action is ok for Clarence Thomas, but not for Sonia Sotomayor?

Pat is clearly part of the Old Boy Network which is rapidly shrinking and losing its power. I mean, Old Boys can only last so long before evolution catches up to them!

It should be renamed the "Old Gits Network."

Oooh - can't wait for the McLaughlin Report Friday. It's always fun to bet on just when Pat's head will explode.

(Nixon plumber who actually redeemed his life) "Pat is a great guy to get drunk with, but when it comes to politics, he's a screaming loon."

Does Pat Buchanon have any visible means of support other than for offering his biased opinions to viewers who don't want to hear them?

I see where Obama has named Miguel Diaz as ambassador to the Vatican. I was so hoping he'd send Pat Buchanan. The Vatican would get a raving right-wing Catholic and we'd get a break from his endless screeching. By the way, I'm in love with Lawrence O'Donnell.

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