Michael Steele Continues Republican Lies: Not in the History of Mankind Has the Government Ever Created a Job
By Heather Tuesday Feb 03, 2009 5:30pm
From The Situation Room Jan. 2, 2009. Michael Steele is completely clueless. Hey Steele, weren't you drawing a government pay check at one time? Maybe that didn't qualify as a job. I think the people working for the Post Office, Parks Department, IRS....etc., etc., etc. might disagree with you.
UPDATE: John Amato:
As soon as he had the chance, Michael Steele makes it perfectly clear why he's a perfect choice for the RNC. He can lie with the best of them. This statement was utter nonsense as Wolf Blitz looked on like a blow up doll.
BLITZER: But if there's an economic recovery and there are jobs created...
STEELE: Are you taking into account inflation?
And, first off, the government doesn't create jobs. Let's get this notion out of our heads that the government create jobs. Not in the history of mankind has the government ever created a job.Small business owners do, small enterprises do, not the government. When that government contract runs out, that job goes away. That's what we're talking about here. And those two to four million jobs that are projected won't happen. Trust me.
Wolf moved on to a new topic immediately. Maybe Blitzer had a few voices in his ear piece and didn't really listen to Steele's answer, but to sit back and not respond to a LIE that big is insane. Watching the crazy stock market shows all year, most of the time they said that because of government hiring, the job reports didn't look as bad as they should have. We all know that FDR put people to work. Did the TSA get any work because of the federal government and the strict rules in airports? Steele is a clown and this is the type of lying that needs to be exposed always.
And as Duncan properly states:
As Dean says, we're living in the Republican alternative universe where government spending isn't stimulus. Stimulus is instead... well, no one really knows. You can argue about the effectiveness of various stimulus measures. You can argue about what spending priorities should be. But anything which involves buying stuff and paying wages or otherwise putting money into the pockets of people is stimulus.
Just cause it doesn't mesh with your political philosophy doesn't make it untrue. What about the military? or the police...Starting by denying reality is probably not the best way to regain power. Steele will do brilliantly...for the Dems.
I dunno, there's quite a glare coming from his scalp.
I hate having to come to the defense of this guy but I think C&L and many here are missing his point although I can understand why. What Steele should be saying is Not in the History of Mankind Has the Government Ever Created Anything.
The Government produces nothing, it is a non-productive entity. The government and all its bureaucracy and projects survive on the prosperity of the private sector. Our private tax dollars feed the government, it projects, and all the employee paychecks.
But it does not create jobs from a profit base, all government jobs are parasitic in nature surviving off of a free market system. Yes the government taxes its employees like it taxes the private sector, yes it contracts with private businesses and helps them to be successful. The government has many needs which forward our nation and thus spurs private industry to fill its needs. Yet all this would be impossible without the private sectors tax dollars.
Government jobs and projects are a drain on the private sectors pocket book, it is a drain on the free market system, the government in and of itself creates NOTHING. That is why Michael Steele (who I am not a fan of) is in this instance correct when he says Not in the History of Mankind Has the Government Ever Created a Job.
All you have do is look at the governments deficit spending to know it creates nothing. The ability to see both sides helps us make informed decisions
Do you go to work on a donkey trail? Did Hoover Dam just build itself?
Unbelievable...
In case you haven't noticed, the private sector has been pretty parasitic of government lately, so much for your free market utopia.
The free market does work when you look at companies who actually manufacture something of value, corporations which reflect real earnings from real products and services. If you bought the tripe that this is a failure of the free market then I would encourage you to spend some time looking at what the real cause is and educate yourself on economics and business. There are numerous reasons for our situation and much of it falls back on our government (both parties) for the last 30 years and Allan Greenspan. Indeed some of the savviest free market investors warned of this moment and few listened to them.
If you think the government creates jobs all you need to do is look at the fall of the USSR. There is good capitalism, good basic business and then there are Ponzi schemes, and incompetent companies. If you think the government is going to fix this by putting people to work then you might want to consider one question I have asked here a thousand times now and not gotten a single good answer on.
With what money?
Foreign debt is the problem, we are over $11 trillion (and compounding) in the hole and all of Obama’s grand deficit spending investment in our infrastructure requires someone to loan us the money. You should know deficit spending is the act of incurring debt. Without real corporate earnings from the private sector to drive our economy this country will fall like an anvil.
Pull your emotions out of the economy and look at it pragmatically.
Isn't that because "Government" IS THE JOB? Roughly speaking, "we the people" - "private sectors" create (governing bodies)? Why we created them is of opinion, yet an undeniable fact. As a nation of laws "never ending", I myself would, no will, say government is a job, in and of itself!
A question too ask is, can prosperity be a byproduct of the government we created? Then that prosperity thing is the proverbial can of F-in worms? I would compare it to an evolutionary progression of sorts. I'm gonna stop there, my temples are starting to palpitate! :-P Kick it back...
all government work is a liability on the books, there is no positive cash flow, no profitable business model. That is why Steele is correct when he said:
Assets feed you, liabilities eat you. A business is an engine that creates cash flow, it accelerates the velocity of money and allows for additional investment in which one may capitalize on their success. That is good capitalism.
If someone here can explain how the government boast the same I'm all ears.
Who created the government(s) and whose liability is it?
Everything the government does comes from tax dollars. The FICA box on your W2 when you do your taxes is where a lot of that money comes from.
I’ll make an extreme case to illustrate my point, if everyone worked for the government then who would be left to fund the government projects with fresh new money? What would make our markets grow?
Free market is vital, without it there is no competition, no incentive to make better products. What country would want to import our so so products?
The government is useful and has needs (and finds things it needs) which help spur business in the private sector. It is occasionally responsible for creating technology which benefit the people and help business if guided right. The Internet would be an example, but even the Internet until it was demilitarized was a tax payer expense until then.
Despite China being a communist country, under it's hood free markets reign, and that has allowed for it to have reserves as a result of exporting to us.
The reason the US became the power house it is today is in large part was due to the US selling goods to our Allies during WWII to fund their wars across the ocean. While we stayed out of it and took their gold in trade. The US only got involved in the tale end of it.
You asked
Who created the government(s)
The founding fathers envisioned limited government, they knew the dangers of big government having escaped it. So the answer is the people created government.
and whose liability is it?
We the people are the government and it is our liability. Unfortunately we have a lot of idiots representing we the people. All are telling us what we want to hear to keep their public service positions.
I admire your sincerity and effort, as well as respect your opinion(s).
It's my opinion that some, including myself, often put the cart before the horse.
Amended: You've taught me allot and I thank you.
Truth_Critic you appear be able to see both sides of an argument, that helps you make an informed decision. Everything I say about this stuff come from people far savvier than I.
* Jim Rogers
* Marc Faber
* Max Keiser
* Michael Maloney
* Nouriel Roubini
* Peter Schiff
* Robert Kiyosaki
* Richard Duncan
and if you want a good radio person who hits both sides of the isle on economics Jerry Doyle is a great listen.
FOX's only good on-time air personality, I don't always agree with him but he makes some fierce points and takes our government to task
http://www.jerrydoyle.com
There is much I don't know but I'm learning too LOL!
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Amended: I think I found some more reason(s),
> Why did the American Revolution take place?
Snip - In explaining why the Revolution took place, it is necessary to look both at underlying causes and at the precipitating events.
The Revolution was, in part, the consequence of long-term social, political, and cultural transformations. Between 1680 and 1776, a distinctly American society emerged, a society that differed significantly from Britain. In the course of a century, the colonies had diverged markedly from Britain. A variety of long-run trends gave the 13 American colonies certain common characteristics which made them very different from England.
What were some of these characteristics?
> http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/database/art...
"I am sorry to think that you do not get a man's most effective criticism until you provoke him. Severe truth is expressed with some bitterness."
[Henry David Thoreau]
And much of the private sector depends on the government for their business. So what's your point? If you make millions through government contracts it's not really money?
Their argument is a lie, and your point is pointless.
First I'm not being anti-government nor am I carrying the GOP's water. I am simply making a fundamental economic point, not too different from the chicken or the egg analogy. It’s important people understand this otherwise this nation is going to find itself even more broke.
The government is a dependent of the people. It exists because we decided we needed it services, government employees are called public servants; they serve the people. Since we decided we needed full time public servants it became necessary to support them and any common expenses all could benefit from. Not too different from HOA fees some of us pay today to support the common living elements in a community. The government is an expense of the people and must be supported through taxation; originally direct tax later income tax was introduced.
The government has needs and creates needs some of which help companies prosper, but remember the money still comes at tax payer expense. This is where you start to see the argument of big vs. small government, because the government itself creates no jobs and produces nothing. It’s only revenue stream is from us the peoples tax dollars and as of late deficit spending, borrowing against our future from foreign countries whom we cannot ever repay.
People here are mistakenly taking his words as literal. Yes we have teachers, and firemen, county employees etc. When economists or government officials talk about job creation, they are talking about self supporting jobs as a result of business. You have to pay your taxes, you don’t have to shop at XYZ company. While Wall Street and banks are fleecing the country today, other business out there supports our living and their existence does not require our participation necessarily. If a company grows, it did so from prosperity not adding further burden to the tax payer. This is what Steele is talking about.
I am no fan Michael Steele for other reasons but on this point he is correct.
Here is my simple hominid train of thoughts. I'm not Monkeying around so Bear with me... OK, honestly that was my attempt at Good-Humor before Ice-scream :-)
Check this out please? I read in one of your nearby replies, the Tax issue. Though I noticed a divergence of Tax entities in relation too "Direct Tax and oh!! / income tax. Your reply post is right above me now!
I'm just not sure where this comment will re-appear after I click that submit button? Though I'm sure you can put the two together :-P You opine the following;
"government is an expense of the people and must be supported through taxation; originally direct tax later income tax was introduced."
Don't the two, [Direct Tax] & [Income Tax] have an "apportioned" bearing too them that got all legaled up? What I mean is, I heard that our individual tax and Business, corporate or otherwise. It has something to do with our income tax is allegedly illegal because of some apportioned tax thing?
But Vegas a question I posted at the start albeit may have been "fuzzy logic" :-) Kinda goes like this >>>
We got a group of elders, leaders and or founding fathers that shape the deal. ► I don't know where they got the cash from, but they started an institution called government. ► I believe it was created too produce "prosperity". ► Then I get lost or am unable to answer because "prosperity" is to broad or expansive in it's possible definition???
So we create laws and I assume, we'll continue too do so forever? There is one [Our First] debit on our company/government expense ledger :-) My fragmented brain just locked up, so I'll end it there. :-)
PS. I think that "Jim Rogers" guy, has a good grip from what I understand. I'm sad he moved to Asia, though only for his reason. :-(
That Nouriel Roubini guy seems to be fairly accurate as well, from what I understand. Schiff, yup like him, though I've only heard his thoughts as they relate too money and I'm trying too forecast money and humanity in general at the same time.
So, our "We The People" Biz aka government initially paid for by whom? It would be our first "expense/debit"! and at the same time "We The People" were "purchasing/debit" our prosperity?
pros·per·i·ty; n. 1. The condition of being prosperous.
Sorry for the grammar, I left school in the 10th grade. :-/
Too lift my self-esteem;
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
[Aristotle]
On my way home now, checking mail and happened to hit this post before leaving the office, so this will be short. When I mentioned direct tax I meant it an Constitutional frame, such as property tax. The meaning has changed a little over the years to encompass more.
I'm not a historian on the topic but if memory serves I read somewhere in one of Robert Kiyosaki's books the US was basically a tax free nation (except for periods of war). Income tax though did not become a permanent fixture until WWI, it was promoted as patriotic to pay taxes to fight the war. Congress got a taste of money and never let go after that, they liked that kind of patriotism. Now it's the cost of living in a civilized society.
So I've read
you're either blind or delusional.
Your argument while eloquent is built on the fallacy that every job in the private sector produces something.
You also show a lack of comprehension of the "fractional money system". If you truly want your deficits to disappear, get an understanding of that.
makes you feel better but it doesn't make for a point. Read my post above, you are simply missing a fundamental precept. I think you are letting your distaste for Steele cloud your ability to hear what he was saying.
Fractional reserve banking is an entirely different topic which I made many heated posts over. That is about us depositing a dollar and the bank elf'n magic loaning ten dollars. I realize it is mathematically impossible to pay off the national debt.
The united states is a republic look it up and tell us what it means.
Fractional reserve banking involves the issuance and creation of commercial bank money, which increases the money supply on an exponential basis. According to the quantity theory of money, this increase in the money supply leads to more money "chasing" the same amount of goods, which leads to inflation. Some monetarists and Austrian economists believe that the exchange rate or purchasing power of the monetary unit is governed by the quantity of money, including demand deposits and notes, and therefore view fractional reserve banking as the main cause of inflation.
Charles T. Hatch, Inflationary Deception [1]
^ Ludwig von Mises, The Theory of Money and Credit, ISBN 0-913966-70-3[2] See also: Jesus Huerta de Soto, Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles, ISBN 0-945466-39-4 [3]
No I got it, in fact we're probably on the same page. I was just referencing ‘The Road to Serfdom’ Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich A. von Hayek in this C&L post a few days ago in this post:
Krugman ISN'T RIGHT
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/amity-...
Regardless of the exponential nature of fractional reserve banking, the evils of fiat currency and the like, what I am saying with respect to the government creating nothing, agreeing with Steele in this case is still true and has been since this country formed it's first government position.
The big question no one wants to answer is where is the money going to come from? Government work is a burden to the tax payer. Fractional reserve banking or not, the government does not create jobs out of prosperity, it still adds burden to the people even if the cause is good.
More of my posting futility here
It means dead in storage (Sterilized Dollars in China)
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That's right, there is not enough gold
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A little history of how we got here
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Kondratieff knew this was coming
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Susie yeah it is silly to think that
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Why doesn’t Paul Krugman ever explain...
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No Krugamn does NOT! That's what is scary!
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Give me a break. Ask yourself what is the primary purpose of the federal government. Yes, you anti-govt lunatics spout about it all the time. The one over-riding purpose of the federal government is to provide for the common defense. So therefore the government creates the materials and conditions necessary to defend the country.
When a president (illegally or otherwise) takes military action or even decides a new weapon system is in the best interest of the U.S., that weapon system or that war is fought. The private sector may provide material and services to the government in order to fight that war. I challenge you to explain to me how a loose confederation of militia without the power of the executive would come together to build or buy an ICBM? Maybe it seems that some international corporations could afford to fight and build weapons of war. But who is going to lay down their life because their corporate master says they need to.
If the U.S. gubmint had not decided to build up the military to counter the threat from the USSR are you going to tell me that the free-market would have solved this problem on their own? The resulting military-industrial-congressional complex provides jobs. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs!!!
The construction of the means to wage a successful offensive modern war against nation states can only be adequately performed by a large central and powerful federal government. Don't even try to bring up al-queda. They haven't yet done anything more than make a few chickens%&*% repubs piss their pants.
Well, damn. I guess I'd better tell all of the public school teachers, courthouse workers, police, state university and community college staff, and everyone at the state-funded hospital down the road from me where I used to work that none of them are REALLY employed. ...For the record, I left of my own accord, not because some non-existent contract expired. Geeze, I hope Wolf called him out on that. What an idiot. But, hey, maybe he will actually help further the crumbling of the GOP.
Blitzer did not call him out on it. He let it go and changed the subject to Rush Limbaugh.
Cluelessness aside, Blitzer is just a terrible anchor, and it's not like he hasn't been at it awhile. He's just as stiff and awkward as they come in that role.
be a terrible anchor, but that beard makes him look like a super serious journalist doesn't it. It just screams,"I'm am a super serious man with a super serious job."
that's exactly the type of thing that he should call him out on. It's very easy to disprove. He could have put Steele in a corner real fast with a simple rebuttal.
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they're government workers too. Okay troops, you don't really have a job, time to come home and let's start some small businesses in the wonderful economic climate.
has been going on since this past summer...with conservatives insisting that the new deal caused and extended the great depression
thing is, not one has shown any company from that time chomping at the bit to reinvest and expand
why would you with 20 percent unemployment?
btw, dont let the numbers fool you...we are close to that right now
You are really dumb.
Yes, you are!
Will not stop the Rush Limbellies, Noo seed Hannity and Prostate Bill O and we can never for David Duke (Head of the KKK)
Head of the GOP........
It's probably a fair comment. Governments can create jobs but it's better to create the conditions which create jobs.
Spending money on building a road is great. But once the road is done, your job is done. My company doesn't keep me employed once the building season is done. Why would they?
road? Who plows it? Who fixes the potholes?
GOVERNMENT in the form of Public Works.
After my hubby got home from Nam and retired from the Army he got a job at the public works and retired from there.
there's your answer to the bad economy. The fed gov't can just go right out and hire every single unemployed worker. Done.
One of the reasons economies around the globe are screwed up are because of government largesse. Too big. Too many government employees. How many public works employees does it take to rake a pile of leaves? 8. 1 to rake and 7 to lean on theirs and watch.
my husband lazy? After 2 tours in Nam? After 20 some years in the Army?
Watch it. Make jokes all you want but my husband at 73 is still working every day.
I don't see where CC said that.
It is true that there's never been a better time for government to invest in rebuilding crumbling infrastructure.
I suppose they could claim that letting it get this bad is one way of creating the climate for job creation, but I'd rather think there are better ways.
to invest in crumbling infrastructure. They forgot about it for 30 or 40 years. Matt Lauer said it was better in China than in the US on national TV. I'm so glad china got so much when American workers got shafted. NOT.
and check out the 20 employees per county and it's obvious that they could hire a few more.
too funny
wow dude, way to make yourself look like a jerk. Thanks for disrespecting our veterans.
show me
where did he disrespect veterans? Jo made that leap of faulty logic all on her own inference. You are upset over nothing, (the story of this site.) Ha!
Hey lady its our tax money that fixes it! If nobody has a job to pay for all the money we are about to spend who is going to loose their job? All that gov was meant to do was to enforce law, not spread the money around. All that does is shift the problem from one area to another and doesn't fix sh*t
if i get contracted to set up a new office....my contract ends once the network and all the computers are in place and working
however, the owners have the option to keep me on for maintanance
that is how it works
either they keep me, or hire someone else
either way...jobs are created
Ever heard of the word "maintenance?"
for the blow up doll comment
blow up doll I remember Peter Sellers. He was undercover as the Pink Panther and had a "girlfriend" that slowly was deflating, making a farting noise.
Hilarious! Wish I could remember which movie it was in.
I wish I could find a link on YouTube of the movie Airplane! where Julie Haggerdy engages the automatic pilot.
the republicans have their own magic negro!
Here we go again the retard party trying to look like they are not a racist hate group.
But know matter how much lipstick they put on that pig it is still going to be a pig!
a racist telling everyone else they are racist
How's that?
Has a republican ever spoke the truth!
Republicans weren't always fuck nuts. I certainly do not consider Abe Lincoln a liar.
Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex didn’t he?
just as goldwater was the last true conservative
Teddy Roosevelt gaves us our National Parks, and did lots of other good things.
He meant to say "Never in the history of mankind has a Republican government ever created a job."
stupidity, ignorance and bigotry
comes in many colors, it's a shame
they all seem to be republicans too.
It’s time that Republicans quit pussy-footing around on the issue of race. They need to point out that in both principle and practice, the Republican Party has a far better record than the Democrats on race. Even more importantly, they need to stress that on the issues that most affect African-Americans today, the Democratic position represents racism of the most offensive sort—a patronizing racism that denigrates Blacks every bit as badly as the old racism of Jim Crow and segregation of the Democrats.
That comment is so ridiculous. Maybe Wolf was so fucking blown away by the stupidity of it, he didn't know how to react?
until they follow up with a common sense question. Move on to f**king Rush Blimpbaugh? Give me a break.
I think Wolf is just plain old fucking blown away by his own stupidity. As in too stupid to catch the gaff, much less respond to it.
Aren't all republican politicians government employee's?
They have been selling complete unchallenged B.S. for so long to the American people, they are having a hard time understanding that the game has changed.
It's like watching a bunch of idiots trying to run the wishbone offense in the era of the spread. Their playbook is completely outdated, but they haven't had the guts to admit it yet. I think it may take a couple of more whippins at the ballot box, and the UNGERRYMANDERING of republican districits before they learn their lesson.
If the dems win again in 2010, the repukes will lose another 3 House seats in Michigan when the new districs are drawn, and they will lose the state Senate (they only got 46% of the popular vote). Maybe then they will drop the Grover Numbnuts ideology.
They are paid by our taxes. The gov doesn't produce anything that doesn't come from our taxes.
didn't they teach him about the New Deal? Hell, artists and actors were even given programs that would keep them employed in their chosen fields. I'm sure he must have missed 'Cradle Will Rock' about the Federal Theater Program.
Then there was the TVA, the REA and on and on. I guess the alphabet soup fairy created those jobs.
What a bunch of morons.
I'm sure Lockheed Martin would be surprised to hear about this.
Excellent point!
MIT a government project too? For the military.
NASA?
Even more taxes paid for this.
More taxes
Taxes, taxes, taxes. You do realize that we make up the government that charges and uses these taxes, right? We pay taxes, taxes are collected, taxes pay for services, ergo, government, via our taxes, creates jobs. If I pay you to do something, you have a job. If I pay someone else to pay you to do something, you still have a job. That job would not exist without the taxpayer or the government. It's pretty simple, actually. ;-)
You got it kinda! The govt. has never produced anything! The private sector pays for the govt. and pays for anything they do. So to say the Govt creates is an oxymoron. They take from the private sector to give money to others. That was never what the founding fathers had in mind. They founded a Republic not a Socialist Govt.
along with the the George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier and Hoover Dam and the mail delivers itself, and the populace polices itself, and everyone chips in when there's a fire in the neighborhood. Governments are totally useless. If only Wall St. got a contract to govern the country...all would be sunshine and lollipops.
Wall Street already did, or at least they got us by the short and curlies now.
Govt. is necessary or we have chaos. The problem is when govt grows 2 large it no longer serves the people. For example. Germany's economy was in the dump when a man stepped up calling for major change and advocated the socialization of private industry. Whats happening now sound very close to what happened then.
Taxes from us, large, and small business pay for everything the gov. ever did. Taxes take profit away from one person or business and giving it to someone or something else. The govt didn't create that money for all those projects the private sector did. When are you going to get that through your heads that its not the govt. but you and me. The gov was only supposed protects us and creates laws and enforces them so we can be a productive society.
Evidently, he forgot about his new gig, to say nothing of his time as Lite Gov of Maryland, but I guess that doesn't count in gop-slime land.
steele wants to continue the meme that all government is bad
here is the problem...when financial institutions are not lending money to small biz and indivduals in order to stimulate job creation...what are people supposed to do?
sure, the wpa was a stopgap measure...but it kept people working and creating infrastructure that had to be maintained through the years...ergo...job creation
it was nasa that spurred on the computer revolution...they had to design mini computers in order to fit them into the capsule
government can create the need for job creation
that is why the stimulus for green industry and expanding the broadband market is important
and as a small biz person....the repugs didnt do shit for me
i have watched my income steadily decline over the past 8 years...while i work harder and longer hours
opens mouth, shit falls out. Constituents lap it up.
I'm convinced that FDR's keeping America working made it possible for all our corporations to turn on a dime and start making war equipment. We started WWII with a minimum of needed trucks and armaments. But only healthy corporations with a manpower in place could so quickly turn out what was needed.
Of course now they have more spare parts in a jet's computer guided missle system than an entire bomber back then.
very good analysis
it also stemmed malaise
working people feel productive...even if they are pushing a broom
and roosevelt created the concept that we are all in this together (evil socialism)
repugs dont want people to feel responsible for the guy next door...they love social darwinism
its great...cuz its that thought process that had one of my long term clients go out and find someone to underbid me by 50 percent for a job
It also stemmed a nascent fascism within Wall Street millionaires, and growing American Communist and Nazi parties.
In effect, FDR's program preserved the Union much like Lincoln.
without FDR, we may have had incredible rioting and the like. He stemmed the tide of insane people and calmed the country down...
definitely, which makes it even more sickening when these guys trash him. He came through as a TRUE leader when this country needed one the most.
There is more computing power in a cell phone than there was in those space craft. Amazing!!
Act like a politician and stop paying taxes. It is amazing how much money you will make. lol
Same for my brother and his small business. The repukes only care about the CEO's of multinational corporations.
became a photographer thanks to one of FDR's government programs. He in turn used his skills to open up a photo studio that he ran until he retired when he was in his late 80s. So the government creates a program which creates a small business that was profitable and the problem is...
God I miss Steve Gilliard.
Get a new JOB! LOL
about what happened when we did exactly as they asked
cut taxes, cut corporate taxes, extended free trade, removed oversight
8 short years and the entire economy crumbled
it was already shaky, thanks to changes that occured over a 30 year period...but these fucks had a free hand for 6 out of the past 8 years
if their ideas were so damn good...why arent we still in boom times?
of course they answer that taxes are still to high, and there is still too much regulation
GUESS THATS WHY THE TOP 400 RICHEST PEOPLE GOT RICHER, PAY LESS TAXES THAN ANYONE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS...AND THE NUMBER 1 PEANUT SUPPLIER IS FUCKING RAT AND ROACH INFESTED
GODDAMIT...GET ANGRY
ITS TIME FOR A REVOLUTION
WHERE THE FUCK IS JOHN LENNON WHEN YOU NEED HIM TO WRITE A PROTEST SONG
Performing every night at God's place. =/
Imagine there's no Heaven.
There policies have been in place for quite some time, and I don't see a flourishing economy. Even beyond that, they've had the executive branch for 20 out of the last 28 years. They've been slashing taxes for all of them too.
i think the american people are catching on...at least i hope so
repug policy is not good for small biz...never has been
its good for a consumption and service economy...but go ask the romans how that worked for them
What kind of Govt. did they have when they fell? UJM are you retarded? Could it be because they turned away from the republic and became a Oligarchy long before the fall of the Roman Empire.
Uncle Joe you have hit a home run here. This kind of stuff was never heard in the past before the internets. We all have a voice and we have to YELL AT THE TOP OF OUT LUNGS and never let them get away with anything.
Capt. did you know that Kangaroos lived in America, but all the Pilgrims killed them off for food..... LOL
Capt. you can't be serious to think UJM is right? Didn't you go to school?
Here I am!
Imagine a black president
He's doing all he can
Been in office for only two weeks
He wants to be your brother, man.
It was all Clinton's fault.
They were just trying to fix things. If we had only trusted them and voted McPain into office, they would have fixed the whole mess. But the public had to go and ruin it...
*giggles*
It was mostly Jimmy Carter and Barny Frank. Jimmy created the CRA and Barny said there wasn't a problem after Repubs spoke out about it.
The Community Reinvestment Act -- is a United States federal law designed to force commercial banks and savings associations to meet the needs of borrowers, including low- and moderate-income neighborhoods. The US Congress passed the Act in order to reduce discriminatory credit practices against such neighborhoods, a practice known as redlining. Failure to comply can subject a financial institution to civil liability for actual and punitive damages.
Does Steele have a job? Or is he just a volunteer? If he doesn't think government ever created a job, cancel his paycheck.
Take away his house and vehicles as well. Maybe he's excluding elected officials.
he hit the nail on the head
the man is a clown
that's the winning pick for the dumbest thing said on television so far this year. And Blitzer gave him a mulligan.
Blitzer is BRAIN-DEAD when it comes to thinking on his feet.
Steele is simply BRAIN-DEAD.
Any eighth grader would have said, "But, wait, what about career government workers? What about teachers, and policemen, and firemen, and soldiers..." I'm sure Blitzer just wasn't listening to what his guest was saying.
And as for Steele; here is proof that he will continue the Grand Republican Tradition of SAYING ANYTHING TO FURTHER PUSH YOUR TALKING POINTS. No thinking, no substance, no logic, no common sense... just MAKE YOUR POINT ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS! What a dipshit.
To be technical teachers, policemen and firemen are State and Local government employees, not federal.
However, groups like the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA etc work for the Feds.
They work for us and our tax money. Everything in govt is payed with the private sectors sweat and blood.
Panama Canal?
Last I heard that was a Republican program.
A man, a plan, a canal...Panama!
It wasn't a bailout, but it was a worthy project that has been enormously successful, and continues to be a key conduit for international maritime trade. Can you name a similar project that has done so much, and lasted so long to help internationally from the democrats? I would really like to know. really.
Maybe Wolfie was letting Steele put his foot in his mouth and look like a fool. It is not difficult to do. I have seen a couple interviews with this tool and he looks like a fool every time. Steele does not understand that he is being played like a cheap fiddle.
every wealthy person i know has made it from government contracts
and from medicare, medical and the like
every fucking single one
cuz the people i know own old age homes and private medical facilities
thats right....THE GOVERNMENT MADE THEM RICH!!!!!!!!!!
and here is a better one....the guy who brought down bill richardson....that guy...david rubin...well he didnt get rich from simple money management...he got rich...THROUGH GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS!!!
FUCK YOU STEELE....FUCK YOU YOU STEPANDFETCHIT MOTHER FUCKER
that was for steve...i hope he is reading this
Dick Cheney is a perfect example of this. He worked for the government his whole life except when he was winning contracts for Haliburtin. In fact Michael is probably an example of this. He probably has worked in the government his whole life as well.
why the the republicans want to cut entitlements and such, it's their pie and they don't want to share. WE shouldn't look to government, because THEY are.
john mccain.
So it seems, the important question to ask about this so-called stimulus is WHICH GROUP OF ELITE WILL BENEFIT FROM THESE NEW GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS???
The bottom line is that the government is not a productive body. It cannot spend what it has not first stolen at gunpoint (the IRS packs sidearms) from a person or company who is a productive body. People need to grasp this fundamental point!!
Neither are most corporations.
ysbaddaden when companies don't do well they go out of business. Thus is the nature of business. Nowadays the Govt. jumps in claiming the end of world if we all don't pay up. You are BS and so is bailing out failed companies. So far the sky hasn't fallen, but maybe spending money we don't have will fix it.
The Bushies and most of their cronies got rich from government money too. No-bid theivery for shitty services at top dollar. And most of them were miserable failures in the open market.
But I guess government tax contracts are not government work if your a repuke.
Read some of my other posts.
This is the same guy who claimed he was pelted with oreos at a press conference(?) and it never happened. He is a professional liar, as are most Repubs these days.
Roman Catholic, as he recently pointed out in an interview. As a rather nominal Catholic, but a Catholic nevertheless, I have no idea why I needed to know this.
Maybe steele is a fan of Eusebius's Holy Lying.
I'm trying to think of a dirty joke, but my head is spinning from too much burgundy, and too many Gauloises Brunes (non filtered).
Do they let anyone comment here?
Unconcerned Canucks want to know.
Cum to think of it, FDR's art projects, some of which still exist as murals etc in Federal buildings, probably had a lot to do with fostering a sense of patriotism in America, since those were often the themes artists worked with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJBx_aFfgyo
Would American soldiers have fought so valiently in the war, or the home front mobilize with bond sales, deprivation (food and fuel rationing), rubber, and newspaper drives, service in the USO and Victory gardening etc., if the average American felt their country had abandoned them?
go to san francisco...most of the murals on public buildings were done during the wpa
all very patriotic, some with the worker in mind
all which still exist
it kills me when they put down the wpa
oh yeah Gordon Parks, famous photographer and filmmaker came from the WPA. But government never works or produces anything that is good.
If both parties weren't trying to get folks elected to GOVERNMENT JOBS, they wouldn't need party chairpeople to direct the operation. So, the government, in actuality, created his.
at least American soldiers get their paychecks from Uncle Sam, i.e. they are public employees.
Or is the GOP going to start a pro bono armed forces any time soon?
I think the Geneva Convention forbids the playing of Sonny & Cher.
Armed forces for the public good (pro bono publico)
Obama said he wants to create a paramilitary force stronger then the military. Hmmm... sounds like the Gestapo.
have to keep it professional. But this is one of those times where it would be perfectly appropriate to stop the interview and call this guy an idiot.
would be so funny. That might even get me to watch cable news again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FsatlyzUeA
(Okay, that makes me officially drunk now...me go pass out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfowXTXOfU).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSELOCMmw4A
I just emailed CNN calling for the firing of Wolf. This man sits still as absolute falsehoods are passed on as truth. He is either ignorant or complicit. In either case he must go...the bearded Limbaugh of CNN-FOXnews.
Contact CNN and call for his demise.
They'd probably just fire Wolf and bring in some Operation Mockingbird Newbie to take his place..
Also, have you considered that his ignorance or complicitness are the major pre-requisites for holding down a major news network anchor position?
This is just about the stupidest thing I have every heard or read. Just like every other Republican he is a lying liar. Right out of the gate he shows he is the status quo.
Government never created a single job.
He's right - if you take it from the Repub point of view. Remember, to them, the rich and powerful are the only people that count. FDR's New Deal created thousands of jobs for ordinary Americans. Therefore, it didn't work, because ordinary Americans - the ones who do all the real work that makes their fat asses comfortable in robbing the rest of us blind - don't matter. They (or rather, we) don't even exist, except as pack animals to do their dirty work.
You just have to know which direction to view it from
I agree with Steele in that particular statement. Especially when he qualifies his comment with these words:
"When that government contract runs out, that job goes away. That's what we're talking about here."
I believe he is making a valid point in regard to the commonly held misnomer that the government can 'stimulate' the economy by shouldering the public with more debt. Even Putin is telling America, 'WTF comrades? Have you learned nothing from us?'
Insanity, i tell you - textbook definition.
what the fuck do you think haliburton does?
oh thats right...they dont have to bid
You must be brain dead! LOL do you even read your own posts?
Your clueless!
You think private companies keep their people working when the job is done? Your point is pointless. They find new projects that need to be undertaken.
There are more than enough on-going projects needed to keep millions employed. All they have to do is take back the 25% of the total wealth in the country that the repukes stole and gave to the super rich. That would employ a whole bunch of people, inperpetuity.
That's why repukes lie.