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As Steve Benen points out, it seems Michael Chertoff along with The Washington Post are having some conflict of interest problems--PAGE 7 VS PAGE 15:

The Washington Post reports today, on page A7, that Michael Chertoff, the former DHS secretary, has been playing a little fast and loose with the public trust.

Since the attempted bombing of a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day, former Homeland Security secretary Michael Chertoff has given dozens of media interviews touting the need for the federal government to buy more full-body scanners for airports.

What he has made little mention of is that the Chertoff Group, his security consulting agency, includes a client that manufactures the machines. The relationship drew attention after Chertoff disclosed it on a CNN program Wednesday, in response to a question.

An airport passengers' rights group on Thursday criticized Chertoff, who left office less than a year ago, for using his former government credentials to advocate for a product that benefits his clients.

"Mr. Chertoff should not be allowed to abuse the trust the public has placed in him as a former public servant to privately gain from the sale of full-body scanners under the pretense that the scanners would have detected this particular type of explosive," said Kate Hanni, founder of FlyersRights.org, which opposes the use of the scanners.

As Steve notes, that same paper allowed Chertoff a 736-word op-ed calling for expanding the whole-body imaging technology. No, it's not just you Steve. There is a huge disconnect between pages A15 and A7. It seems the Washington Post has as bad a case of dissociative identity disorder as the rest of our corporate media.

At least Campbell Brown bothered to point out the conflict during the CNN interview. That doesn't explain why they still brought him on when they know he's going to profit from the technology being expanded.

Transcript via CNN below the fold.

BROWN: But what the president said, though, was systemic failure, you know, bigger than one guy dropping the ball. Or at least from what he seems to know -- and presumably, he knows more than any of the rest of us.

So, talk me through some of the specifics, given what we know. How do you think the system should have worked?

CHERTOFF: Here's what -- here's the way it should work, and normally does work.

You get all kinds of intelligence or information from the field. Some of it is very unreliable or questionable. Some of it is much more reliable.

Whatever it is, it has to be written up in a report and sent by a reports officer up the chain to headquarters, and then through the National Counterterrorism Center, which is the agency set up a few years ago by Congress, to collect and integrate all the information. All the various scraps of information are brought together.

And then an evaluation has to take place. Is it reliable? Is it specific? Does it suggest that some action has to be taken? And then, of course, if it is sufficiently specific and reliable, action should be taken.

So, at any point along that chain, people have the responsibility for making sure that they are accurately and fully reporting what they've learned.

And then there are going to be some judgments that have to be made about whether and what action ought to be taken, based on the information.

BROWN: Bigger picture, what do we do to protect ourselves? Clearly, the systems in place didn't work, if somebody was able to get that far in the process.

When we talk about screenings at the airport and other protective mechanisms along the way, what should we be doing that clearly were not?

CHERTOFF: Well, Campbell, the strategy recognizes that there's always going to be human error in any system. You can't count on perfection. And that's why we built a strategy at the Department of Homeland Security of what we call "layered security" -- a number of different layers, so that even if one fails, another one gets picked up.

It's complicated here, of course, because the actual screening took place overseas, where the U.S. ability to control what goes on is obviously not the same as it is here.

But there are a few things we could do to make things better.

First, we could deploy the scanning machines that we currently are beginning to deploy in the U.S., that will give us the ability to see what someone has concealed underneath their clothing. That has been vigorously opposed by the ACLU and privacy advocates. The House of Representatives voted to prevent us from using it.

But I think now there's been a very vivid lesson in the value of that machinery.

BROWN: OK. Can I stop you there for a second?

CHERTOFF: Yes.

BROWN: I know you've been an advocate of this technology for a long time.

CHERTOFF: Correct.

BROWN: But just, in the interest of full disclosure, I also want to point out, in your current role as a security consultant, you are representing some of the companies who manufacture that technology. Correct?

CHERTOFF: Absolutely correct, yes.

BROWN: OK. Go ahead.

CHERTOFF: A second thing is, it apparently is the case the British did revoke the visa for this individual earlier this year. That information may not have been communicated to American authorities. Why is that? Because the European Union has been very, very adamant in refusing to share information about immigration problems that they discover with American authorities.

So, we've got to go back to the E.U. and fight this fight all over again, and tell them that their exalting privacy over security could very well have resulted in a tragedy that would have killed Europeans as well as Americans. So, that's another measure we could put into place to help cure this problem.

The third thing is, we're going to have to go back and see whether we need to light a fire under some of the people involved in the reporting process, to make sure that they move with urgency and with accuracy when they get reports of the kind that we saw apparently came into the Nigerian embassy.

BROWN: There has also been a renewed debate about racial profiling here. I know you have been opposed to this. And it's not for civil liberties -- or not only, I guess, for civil liberties reasons -- but largely because you don't think it's effective.

Explain your reasoning.

CHERTOFF: Well, the problem is that the profile many people think they have of what a terrorist is doesn't fit the reality. Actually, this individual probably does not fit the profile that most people assume is the terrorist who comes from either South Asia or an Arab country.

Richard Reid didn't fit that profile. Some of the bombers or would-be bombers in the plots that were foiled in Great Britain don't fit the profile. And in fact, one of the things the enemy does it to deliberately recruit people who are Western in background or in appearance, so that they can slip by people who might be stereotyping.

So, I think the danger is, we get lulled into a false sense of security, if we profile based on appearance.

What I do think is important is to look at behavior. And that's something that we are doing and should continue to do more of.

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CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

bush crime family!


Some stuff you can't make up!

Evet's picture

the American way of life. If so, he won that battle with the help of a despotic President and a willing Congress where Republicans and Democrats joined together to strip away American freedoms with the USA Patriot Act and creation of the Department of Homeland Security.

Abbybwood's picture

for the first 20 hours after the events of 9/11 began to unfold:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-...

And he's still in the thick of it. And making some nice change as a result!


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Evet's picture

2010 will chronicle America's continued intimate relationship between government and chosen corporations that will in turn control the masses and continue to have them believe that up is down, and war is peace.

project's picture

These people have only one reason for being any part of government.
GREED!
I do not believe that there is one republican that got into pollitics for any other reason then greed.
These are self centered, selfish, ruthless, greedy bastards.
The sooner we can get these republicans out of government the sooner we can fix the problems they have created!
I know that some of them have a D beside their names, but they have to go also. WE can have no more of these double talking double dealing back stabbing perverts making decisions that effect everyone!

sassafra's picture

as much as i dislike chertoff for the mishandling of katrina and other domestic issues, i have to say he did comport himself fairly well in this interview and made some good points, the most important being that of just how ineffectual and easily countered racial/cultural profiling actually is.
it was an odd position coming from chertoff, considering its opposite being touted as a so called "must have" security protocol by the rabid right.

Handypants's picture

How sad and pathetic has our information sources become when the exchange is . . .

"BROWN: But just, in the interest of full disclosure, I also want to point out, in your current role as a security consultant, you are representing some of the companies who manufacture that technology. Correct?

CHERTOFF: Absolutely correct, yes.

BROWN: OK. Go ahead."

So you have a conflict of interest - go ahead?

Shameful corporate shills.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

fastfeat's picture

Apparently there were no other "experts" available to comment, so they just grabbed a whore off the corner.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Handypants's picture

"So, I think the danger is, we get lulled into a false sense of security, if we profile based on appearance."

Well, to the best of my knowledge something is working . .

I have yet to see any reports of a grandma hijacking an airliner with her nail clippers.

I feel so much safer!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Abbybwood's picture

that the American public will go down in history as the biggest bunch of suckers who ever lived on Earth.

This Chertoff story will be but one of the parts of "the big picture".

I'm connecting some dots here. What about the rest of you?


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Handypants's picture
...

I'm still learning to paint by the numbers and how to keep my crayons inside the lines.

Connecting the dots might be next semester for me.

:)


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Abbybwood's picture

In order to make the lines Handypants.....


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Handypants's picture
...

My coloring book was pre-lined (thank goodness!)


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

curtilingus's picture
:p

Aside from his conflict of interest, his statements are based on pure bullshit.

The key problem here is that they let a man on the plane who had no passport. There are several other discrepancies, including the 2nd man arrested at the airport in the US and the TSA spokesperson changing their story three times on that matter.

has C&L done a story on Kurt Haskell and the other eyewitnesses to the bombing attempt? Don't get all MSM on us and redact the most important part of the story.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbt...

Abbybwood's picture

"But what about the man with no passport and his "helper"?"

Ahem....it's all on video folks.

All we need to do is "watch the film".

Gee, I wonder where that video is? I wonder where all the videos are?

Probably the same place as all the videos taken from sites around The Pentagon after 9/11.

"It's a secret....shhhhhh.....".

Where's all the "transparency" President Obama?


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

curtilingus's picture
:p

Oh that's another thing we don't have at Schipol beside whole body scanners, and that's cameras. Nope. Not a single one in the whole airport.

That's how much the Dutch believe in passenger privacy. No passport, it's none of our business.

jimbo92107's picture

Campbell Brown and Skeletor both are well-known members of the Bush Crime Family. Brown was merely helping Skeletor make some money selling his hyper-expensive, ineffectual body scanners.

Handypants's picture
...

"Skeletor"

That's exactly the name I could not think of!

He is Skeletor - no doubt!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Shadowgm's picture

... he looks a bit like Feliks Dzershinzky.

Handypants's picture
...

I think you nailed it:

Bukharin "Felix" Dzerjinsky

Good one!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Especially if someone stores the bomb components in a body orifice. No scanner is going to see those! What was supposed to be better was a machine that could sniff molecules that explosives give off, which would not have been a violation of a person's civil rights to privacy. Not sure if it would detect explosive components inside a person's body, but at least no one would have to be pictured naked in front of TSA agents (maybe even the rest of the traveling public). This type of machine was talked about more than a decade ago, but no word on whether it was even developed. I am glad Chertoff said racial profiling doesn't work. Al Qaeda would then just recruit people who aren't Muslim or don't look it. Far better to have better communication with embassies and other countries who have not done their job of preventing would-be bombers from getting on aircraft bound for America, like the Netherlands, which let the underwear bomber on board, and France (the shoe bomber).

JayZee's picture

would this scan machine show the type of explosive the (exploding balls) panty bomber used?

I ask because every airport scanner example image I've seen online has shown bodies with guns, knives, etc. no one is asking or saying if exploding balls would be detected.

Shadowgm's picture

... Chertoff and Co. is selling is the backscatter/x-ray thingy or the air-puff residue detector.

The latter would detect PETN, but not the former. The former would only detect whether or not you have something tucked up against your nuts.

Milquetoast's picture

...give you cancer.


audit-prosecute-incarcerate

Mutton Jeff's picture

This bomber should never have been allowed on the plane in the first place - he didn't have a passport. And his visa should have been pulled as soon as his dad reported that he might be dangerous.

Full body scanners do not reveal any explosives held in body cavities. So we'll invest hundreds of millions of dollars on the machinery, even more on training and policy changes, cause a lot of headaches for travelers.... and then the terrorists will wearing their explosives on the inside.

Handypants's picture
...

Shhhhh

Nobody ever thought of secreting stuff in body cavities. EVER!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Shadowgm's picture

If they can't take the plane over, they'll blow it up.

If they can't blow the plane up, they'll shoot it down.

If they can't shoot it down, they'll either GET THEIR OWN FRICKING PLANES or ATTACK SOMETHING ELSE.

We're fixated on 9/11.

Patriot Actor's picture

Iranians, Chileans, Guatamalans, Vietnamese......a host of others with grievances...
The Chileans however would have done it on 09/11/03....

I wonder if the 'they hate us for our freedoms' meme would still be in play?

Shadowgm's picture

.... fine, Mr. Chertoff. Take down your drapes. Leave your front door unlocked and alarm system off. Conduct all your personal and professional business on postcards.

You're not doing anything WRONG, after all, are you? What do you have to hide, hmmmmm?

weslen1's picture

First off, this scumbag was an abominable failure all the time he was in "homeland insecurity" in spite of his "medal of freedom" for that failure.
Secondly, this scumbag has a financial INTEREST in this scanner and stands to make a fortune if he sells it to the public!
Third, this scanner would NOT have caught this "bomber wannabe" BECAUSE he had the stinking BOMB in his UNDERWARE and before they start the scan they give the scanEE a metal plate to COVER that part of the body.
Chertoff is a JERK, a slime ball and should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting the CRIME of illegal wire tapping of every American from 8 to 100 years old for his own voyeuristic, pleasure and Cheney/Bushes BLOOD LUST!

JayZee's picture
WTF

"The key problem here is that they let a man on the plane who had no passport."

I didn't catch that.WOW - no passport on an international flight? AQ must have some real pull at the airport...

That puts a whole new stink on this incident.Oy.

Shadowgm's picture

Why did Kurt Haskell say nothing? Of course, AFTER Pantyboy set his nuts on fire, Haskell knows there was something fishy about it and is telling anyone who will give him airtime.

Who is checking people in? Are they American? What are the policies? Is it a flat MUST HAVE PASSPORT, in which case, the worker who checked Umad Fuckup Abdulmutallab in is grossly negligent. If it's a matter of discretion, then what are the criteria, and why is it being left for the lowest functionary in the chain to decide?

I mean, really, what did they tell the check-in person? That Pantyboy was the son pf the late Nigerian king Oompaloompa Wakawalla IV and that if he let him on the plane without a passport, he'd share the king's vast fortune with him?

Evet's picture

if you don't mind designing torpedoes.

Handypants's picture

I heard a solution on the radio a few days ago.

Everybody gets naked before they board. Then gets their clothes back to dress after landing.

Body cavity searches - optional!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Shadowgm's picture

... trank 'em and stack 'em like cordwood.

Shadowgm's picture

... make everyone strip and don orange jumpsuits.

Instead of complimentary soda and peanuts, it's a waterboarding.

Handypants's picture
...

trank 'em and stack 'em like cordwood

And stack 'em in the cargo containers!

lol


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Handypants's picture
...

Unless, of course, you're flying with the Swedish swimsuit models . . .


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

scanning cargo. What's the point of making us all go through hell to fly? I hate flying now. Seriously, if they wanted to take down a plane there's easier ways than carrying something on yourself.

Handypants's picture
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I haven't flown in many years so it is easy to kid around about it. I would seriously hate to fly these days. And you're right - too many ways to actually take a plane down. That makes me wonder if this Fire-crotch terrorist attack is just more kabuki theater - red meat for the Rwingers.

*now I really have to find my foil hat*


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Shadowgm's picture

... all about the appearance of Doing Something, and not about actual security.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/1/821048...
Chertoff Abuses Public Trust by Pimping Body Scanners

I call bullsh*t. It's because you, Mr. Chertoff, placed people like me, the late Senator Kennedy, Cat Stevens, anti-war protesters and countless other innocents on the list as political punishment. That's why the list of half a million people is so unwieldy today as to be virtually useless.

How could I ascribe such a horrid thought to Chertoff? Because the guy is a morally bankrupt invertebrate with a Napoleonic complex and power addiction. He was intimately involved in the first case of government torture post-9/11 (that of John Walker Lindh), lied about it before Congress, and is perfectly willing to use his former government position to promote a product that benefits his clients. And the Washington Post gave him what is tantamount to free ad space.

Handypants's picture
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"placed people like me"

I'd almost say that being put on the list is an honor. Actually being on any list that includes Kennedy, Cat and anti-war protesters IS and honor.

I salute you!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Shadowgm's picture

... gee, if corporations have conflict-of-interest policies, WHY DOESN'T CONGRESS?

I mean, I'm not allowed to accept gifts over a certain value (like $50), and I have to disclose any personal relationship with anyone who is working for a client or vendor doing business with us.

So why not Congress?

Evet's picture

December 12, 2000 American democracy committed suicide, its corpse now carries that nasty stench of fascism.

Rich H's picture

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Patriot Actor's picture

to say 'Congressional Military Industrial Complex'......

in his warning to the American people.

Hernand Cortex's picture

... it is the posthumous editing of his sentence which left the Congressional part out it.

He was quite a sharp man, re-watching his farewell speech is a rather shocking experience on how correct he was in his warning. Although he should have done something to curb those things while he was in office, as brilliant as his speech was... there was a certain feeling that he viewed himself as a defeated man probably because he figured out how powerless he really was during his time in office. Maybe he realised that he hadn't defeated the fascists a decade earlier in Europe, but that he had merely slowed down their advance?

Handypants's picture
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Here's one that chaps my hide. . .

Congresscritters can't be charged with insider trading by the SEC.

Politicians are just above the ethics thing. They are willing to investigate themselves but seldom find anybody or anything wrong.

UGH!


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

JohnnyBravo's picture

it wouldn't have Bush Family Criminals on their shows.


NOBODY 2012

Shadowgm's picture

... chronically spineless Democrats would be an improvement.

in one place for viewing - preferably that place would be behind bars.

Can O Whoopass's picture

Collectively - Michael Jerkoffs.

seevee's picture

1) Cherkoff's statement about the non-cooperation of the EU with the USA pertaining to immigration issues (in this case a lack of a visa), probably stems from the previous administration's xenophobic attitude towards all furners. Hopefully this is changing now that we have a fully-chromosomed POTUS.

2) We need PETN sniffin' dogs. Stat.

bibimimi's picture

When Chertoff is your 2nd choice behind luminaries like Tom Ridge and Bernie Kerik....the pool spit this one at you.

Hernand Cortex's picture

Chertoff in Russian, literally means "of the Devil."

This bloke certainly looks like an homage to his family name.... bloody hell!

Mike The Riverine's picture

The only way to break the Bush-Cheney-Neocon cabal is to follow the money.

Unfortunately, when we have a Justice Department and a President who is unwilling to prosecute and imprison any member of the previous administration for conspiracy and treason, that ain't gonna happen.

The Beltway two-step in action. This country is truly screwed.


Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years

AnotherJustJohn's picture

The days and days of knocking on mostly republican neighbor's doors, campaigning and convincing them we can do better.
It's the same old greedy crooks calling the shots, getting their way and I don't see anything being done about it.
Hanging my head in shame as I face all the people I convinced daily.
I just had greater expectations for Obama, seems like he's getting his A@ss handed to him by the old gang.

International borders, yup. seem like this scum just doesn't stop. I wouldn't trust any thing this Death Monger says Remember Iran Contra this piece of garbage was right in the middle of it.

Notice it is NOT about SECURITY it is about SOCIALIZED PROFITS under the guise of security. The Fool even admitted he was representing the companies that make these DUH!

Failure of the Embassy to notify the correct authorities DUH!, father bug Banker International banker DUH! Right wing fear monger machine 100% operational at the time of the incident, or yeah and these Racist Nazi, Socialist Anti Americans had nothing to do with it?

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