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John McCain claims that the Republicans have fought to have tax cuts targeted for small businesses, but apparently not if it means getting rid of the Bush tax cuts for the rich. And apparently the Democrats proposing this are waging "class warfare". He's right that there's class warfare going on right now. He just failed to mention that it's his side that's waging and winning it.

WALLACE: Senator, President Obama is set to announce a new economic plan this week that will reportedly center on tax cuts for business to boost hiring and investments. It sounds like something straight out of the Republican play book. What's your reaction?

MCCAIN: Well my reaction is that we always like to see the deathbed conversions but the fact is that if we had done this kind of thing nearly a couple of years ago we'd be in a lot better shape. Look, they're just flailing around. Every place I go in my state where people are hurting very badly and one of the major things that small business and large business people tell me is they want some kind of certainty.

I run into CPA's that say I can't tell my clients exactly what they should do with their money or with their future because nobody knows when the next regulation is going to come down, what are the taxes going to be, what's the... you know we tell them small businesses... there's a $600... every transaction over $600 now has to be reported to the IRA thanks to Obamacare, so it isn't going to be resolved... this incredible uncertainty out there that large and small businesses have about their financial future and so I hopt that they'll do a payroll tax cut but the first thing, the first thing we need to do is extend the tax cuts that are in existence so people have that certainty.

WALLACE: Well, let me ask you about that because the Democrats are talking, and this is all reportedly at this point about framing it this way; let's end the tax cuts for the wealthy and use that $35 billion instead to have targeted tax cuts for small business that does most of the hiring and for lower income employees. Would you support that?

MCCAIN: Well let's get into the old class warfare again. Let's get the rich. Just extend the tax cuts then let's talk about the payroll tax holiday, which for small businesses is... which is something we have fought for for a long period of time and pay for it out of the unused stimulus funds or cut other spending.

The American people want us to stop spending and so let's just give 'em some certainty and let's extend the tax uh... existing tax cuts and then let's give some more tax breaks to small businesses and large and then maybe the American people will have some confidence. They have lost confidence in this administration's ability and this president's ability to get this economy going again.

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project's picture
IMO

Its time for some real warfare on these lying republican fools!

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Spitballs and rubberbands?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Eagle Bill's picture
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ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

That's funny, even a comment that's been deleted gets that flashing red thingy for me to read it...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

little too late. I wonder if this one was good. :P


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

said today on FOX?


"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and NPR-PBS. Until the stubborn old piece of crap dies.

Loonie's picture

The Bush tax cuts were class war in the first place.

fastfeat's picture

funded by loans from the Chinese...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

J M Ashby's picture

Class Warfare??

Yes, there has been Class Warefare going on for the last 30 years and its the Rich Republicans who have been winning.

McCain is such a poor excuse for a man. He needs to retired and go be cranky and crotchety by himself in the Arizona desert.

RobertD's picture

And then there's "ass warfare."

yellowdogD's picture

What's with the reporting of every transaction over $600? That sound like something he plucked from his ass.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

1984's picture

Tax cuts..

...for the rich: relief
...for the poor: socialism/marxism/class warfare etc..

= The American programming.
I also wonder how McCain plans to deal with the national debt. Deficits do not matter again?

Mitch61's picture

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ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

sofla's picture

Republican Logic states that class warfare only occurs when the poorer folks try to get the richer folks to pay some more taxes. When the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, that's not class warfare.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Gee, wasn't it the GOP that said when the Dems won the last midterms that they shouldn't engage in "class warefare".

So, will the Dems respond in kind now. Naaah.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

Tax the Rich's picture

I am all prepared for some class warfare. Heck with the Bush tax cuts, lets talk about bringing back 90% marginal rates on the top 1%. Add a wealth tax to that too.

That ought to give the greed-heads something to think about.

He**, let's make them retroactive to 1981. That ought ta give em' a heart attack.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

He just failed to mention that it's his side that's waging and winning it.

Hard to win a war when you're leaders aid and abet the enemy.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

daganium's picture

..when a guy who owns 8 houses & whose washed-up political career is funded by his trust fund baby wife talks shit about "class warfare?"

This old man has been politically obsolete since the year 2000.

Yet, every Sunday morning, they shoot him full of amphetamines, stick him front of a camera, & solemnly agree with all the Alzheimer's bullshit that flows out of his mouth.


When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in excess body fat & carrying a misspelled sign.

Can O Whoopass's picture

been thrown in the pink hole of Sheriff Joe's prison in the 80's Lincoln Saving & Loan robbery with Jeb and Neil Bush when hundreds of old folks were thrown out of their homes, broke and homeless.

The Repug Crime Wave Continues.

BigD145's picture

He was politically obsolete from day one. He's done nothing but fuck up.

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

And those geniuses in Arizona keep re-electing him. 'Merika sure is STOOPID.

I believe you have it exactly right.

An Australian ex-pro racing cyclist told me that sports journalists got their best interviews at the start of races when, as the riders signed in, the uppers they had just shot up in their hotel rooms, were beginning to give them that rush that made interviews more "interesting" and the journalists would goad the riders on, saying "so and so said this about you, how do you respond".

Until your comment, I never thought that the analogy applied to McCain, but it makes perfect sense.

bmw 528's picture

How about crass welfare, you senile bastard? You war loving Neocons view any attack on the privileged lords of the manor in this country as some evil plot to be thwarted.

And answer this---how do you propose to pay for these tax cuts?

-crickets-

Right.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

walt kovacs's picture

he won his primary

he will go back to the senate

this is probably his last term

why cant he go back to telling the truth about what he really feels?

what is wrong with this man?

ron's picture

the republican law that set the 10 year tax cut expiration date for the rich expire, why is it class warfare? You put it into law, so quit your whining.

economy...which is that it is solely based on consumer spending

i suggest you all take a look at the countries that have weathered the depression

they dont base their economies or gdp on consumer spending...they base it on trade and exports

fine....cut taxes...shoot, lets have no tax and no government

but we dont make anything

our biggest export is hollywood

unless we drastically change our economic base and change peoples attitudes to what is important in life...we are never gonna get out of this mess

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

If our economy was based on consumption, then wouldn't the merchants keep the workers employed so they could continue to consume?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

kaylaspop's picture

McCain want their tax cuts to remain. Screw the little guy. How many jobs do you think the McCains are going to create in the next year. Be sure & check the green cards of their maids & gardeners.


It's not all or nothing.

Wichitaliberal's picture

Any program, policy, bill or law that doesn't work to put every single penny in the hands of rich people like McCain will be denounced as "class warfare". Did we hear one peep out of a Republican when we had to spend trillions on military contractors, or trade deals that sent millions of jobs and trillions of dollars over seas? Of course not. There is a class warfare going on, and the rich have won.

oedura's picture

The Republicans love it.

1st Republic 14th Star's picture

So, to be clear -- ending a tax cut for super rich people -- class warfare. 310 million people sucking on the Social Security tit -- the program is unsustainable and "we all" have to sacrifice and tighten our belts.

Can O Whoopass's picture

Crime Wave Continues.

Roket's picture

And I get very tired of this old man yelling at me.

rgnewton's picture

Is Senator McCain for real? In his senile approach to this issue, he clearly forgot which classes are being oppressed as a result of the Bush tax cuts.

The wealthy 2% who the GOP are advocating for are not suffering as much as the middle working class and the poor. Their attitude is "We're alright. To hell with everyone else!"

These are the jackasses that want to return to power. Shame on them!! This is what they are running on for the November polls? Good luck with that!!

1984's picture

Remember. He used to say different things years before the election, the Daily Show did a piece on that.
McCain is just another politician, he measures to winds and adjusts accordingly.

"I am disappointed that the Senate Finance Committee preferred instead to cut the top tax rate of 39.6% to 36%, thereby granting generous tax relief to the wealthiest individuals of our country at the expense of lower- and middle-income American taxpayers." [McCain Senate floor statement, May 21, 2001]

"But when you look at the percentage of the tax cuts that"as the previous tax cuts"that go to the wealthiest Americans, you will find that the bulk of it, again, goes to wealthiest Americans." [NBC's "Today," Jan. 7, 2003]

When campaigning in 2000, McCain told a crowd of supporters, "I don't think Bill Gates needs a tax cut. I think your parents do."
http://www.tampabay.com/news/perspective/arti...

TAXES: In 2001 and 2003, McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, saying that they would "mostly benefit the wealthy." But in 2006 he voted to extend them and now he wants to double them.

Winski's picture

Well, Grampy...to throw out one of your top guys slogan's for invoking the type pf rethuglican warfare that you clowns have tried to wage for a hundred years... BRING IT ON...

You got nothing...

..it is only because of your stonewalling and misinformation that has the ignorant masses so confused, they don't know which is salt and which is pepper anymore.

These bastards...this turd brain in particular...have poured sour grapes over anything and everything this administration has tried to do. They give NO credit for saving the auto industry and the thousands upon thousands of jobs that it would have affected outside of the auto industry.....no credit for the continued employment of education, police and fire workers that educate and protect our communities....no credit for insuring ALL Americans against the corrupt practices of these corporation whores....no credit for withdrawing from Iraq or gaining respect around the world - minus the Islamic world that these pricks have done their best to infuriate.

This idiot is washed up...but with this nation of morons...he will ALWAYS have job security. Talk about a pathetic piece of shit. I am ashamed of this worthless old bag of broken bones. He is no hero to me...never was, and never will be. He is a living disgrace to all the good men and women that gave their lives in Vietnam and elsewhere...who answered the call to duty, to be used as pawns in this corporate war we have entered into.

Shame on him.

HSans's picture

"Let's spread the wealth around."

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

"Let's spread the thighs around."

(FIFY)


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ron's picture

was at the bottom of his class at the Navel Academy, he should be on our side.

cadfile's picture

President McCain should do stand up... poor rich white guys they are sooooooo persecuted.....

ejreed's picture

time to bring back the Colbert repore again from his skit on the the Maverick who was never a maverick.
John McCain's Victorious Defeat
Stephen offers Senator McCain his heartiest congratulations and condolences on his victorious defeat in the Arizona Senate primary. http://www.newslook.com/videos/244933-john-mc...

miss_kitty's picture

a piggy-eyed, greedy, mother-fucking bastard. Fuckity bye McPOS...

Mugsy's picture

I heard the "uncertainty" word regarding the Bush Tax cuts no less than three times this morning on the Sunday shows.

And as I've pointed out before, the only people creating "uncertainty" are the Republicans.

Barack Obama has said he intends to end the Bush Tax Cuts all along. Democrats agree. If "uncertainty" is the only thing holding the economy back, maybe the Republicans need to stop creating so much "uncertainty" and get on board with ending the BTC.


* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.

kasinca's picture

Tax the uber rich, anyone who has (R) associated with their names, churches, Focus on the Family, and other gay bashing entities. Tax them till it hurts. Then we can discuss class warfare which began with that ass crack Ronnie Raygun.

Ape-Man's picture

Exactly.

They are sooo obvious it hurts.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Ape-Man's picture

Projection.

The Republican party is a class party.

The Republican party is class warfare.

Fly&Crash Boy is stuuupid.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Seriously's picture

watched this whole show live this morning. I know I know. It was laughable. McCain was hardly challenged on any of his views, and then when Kane (sic) came on, he was questioned at every turn.

The distain the Republicans hold for the working class and the poor is unending..

What I will never understand are people who are working class who vote Republican. They vote against their own intrests.

bamboozled's picture

And the rich are winning.

Who made the bad decisions that led to the "Global Financial Crisis" and destroyed the retirements of average people?

Who then used the "GFC" as an excuse to steal trillions of dollars from the futures of average taxpayers while walking off with their own golden parachutes?

Who is responsible for the decisions to ship jobs of average people overseas, devastating the middle class?

Who has rigged the system to avoid paying taxes completely, leaving average people to make up the shortfall toward wars and roads and services?

The war is in its final stages, and average people have been almost entirely defeated.

Ape-Man's picture

It's betrayal of the middle class.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Ape-Man's picture

Since his wife has all the money, shouldn't we be listening to her nonsense and not his?


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Nixxon-sTheOne's picture

It is only class war when we fight back...

ralph's picture

Gramps is just pissed off becuz he thought he was marrying into real $ only to discover that nightmare only brought him up one level where he could really be peed on instead of just getting misted.

NoBuddy's picture

When Clinton left office, there was a budget surplus, and forecasts for surpluses as far as the eye could see. It was obvious to me that these surpluses were necessary to pay back the Social Security trust fund the monies owed. Bush described his tax cuts provide "a fiscal straightjacket for Congress".

It's class warfare for sure, and the opening salvo was the tax cuts that reinstated the deficits. All this talk about "deficits don't matter" was about putting the government in a position where the Social Security trust fund wouldn't be paid back.

The class that is losing is the middle class. And McCain wants to keep it that way.

Easymathbiz's picture
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Your explanation of the terrible financial injustice about to be committed by that socialist communist muslim alien Obama against the wealthiest top 2% of "Real (TM)" Americans by letting the GW Bush tax cuts expire has finally sunk into my brain. (Of course, this will never happen, since Obama is in your employ, not that of the working class citizens of this country.) I am on the verge of tears in blind rage against this vile government. This is obviously a case of class warfare about to be waged against our "pillars of society". Something must be done, and soon, to avert this disaster to the USA economy. The solution has to be re-establishing Republican control over both Houses of Congress. (Or not.)

/snark (as if you needed this reminder from me ... ;)

Apparently, each and every "rich as Crocus" bastard in this country is absolutely justified and entitled to whatever benefit they can collectively squeeze out of the USA government and the vast majority of the working class because the super-rich do not feel the need to support that government or people from whom they have taken (oft stolen) so much. Thanks for setting that record straight, John (I can call you John, right?).

But I am confused, John. I thought that the government and people of the USA were here to protect you and your property, to furnish you with roads, potable water, safe and nutritious foods, electricity, and fight your overseas wars for control of resources that you and your kind so greatly profit from. All these things require taxes, which it is quite evident from this country's record deficits we don't have enough of -- taxes, I might add, that you and your other "Real (TM)" Americans have been avoiding paying for many years.

Does that mean, John, that in spite of your swearing allegiance to the US Constitution and well-being of this country, both as a member of the USA armed forces AND as a sitting member of Congress, that you really didn't mean it, that you had your fingers crossed behind your back? Is that correct, John? Because without adequate taxes, this democratic republic called the United States of America will fail -- to be replaced with what sort of government, John, just to set the record straight?

John, John, John, I hate to be the messenger of some really bad news, but somewhere outside the seat of government, either in Washington, DC or the Arizona state capital of Phoenix, there is a guillotine blade being sharpened, and a catch-basket being prepared with your name on it. This message might be real, or the fanciful machinations of a distraught former taxpayer of the former working class. Who the hell knows?

John, you don't know dick about class warfare, yet.


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy

MartinL's picture

Never stopped. Bring it on.
Hegemony. Only the poor have a deep disdain for class warfare.
The rich? wink, wink ---nudge, nudge.

Forrestabby's picture

Yo, blockhead: Your political party has engaged in class warfare since its incursion into the south looking for the political support of the Stars and Bars crowd back in the 1960s. Down there it is whites against blacks while in the North you were courting the rich and promising to make them even richer. Nice job, by the way. But no matter how hard you try you are not going to be able to sell the Republican party as some egalitarian, all inclusive club. You people have nothing to offer the average American except fear and the ability to lock up the government. I woke up this morning thinking, I cannot imagine why, about Spiro Agnew and his rattling on about the "nattering nabobs of negativism". Pretty good definition of the Republican party now don't ya think? There are many dictionaries available on-line for you to look up those words in but I doubt if you have ever learned to use the internet there is also a plethora of dictionaries in print too. And while you're about it look up the word cretin, and be sure and look at it's origins. It describes you and your ilk perfectly.

mcnairbo's picture

You're damn right it's class warfare Johnny. Only this time it's the upper classes in the crosshairs. We bailed out wall street and they sh#t all over us for our thanks. Now it's time to aim our cannons at the elite class and finally have them start paying their share of the load to save our country. These pigs have no patriotism. I say hell yes to class war. Bring it on you gated community pukes!!!

Paul's picture

It is class warfare. It is the the rich and the powerful started it, and they've been waging it since colonial days. What is capitalism if not a one-sided war waged by the top-most echelon capitalist elites against all others? They have been, with only brief periods of partial respite, been bending government to their will since the very beginning.

McCain should be grateful, as a member of that privileged rich elite, that the People are trying to use the laws (which are rigged against them) and the institutions (which are pretty much serve exclusively of the rich), instead of just taking it to the street. He should take comfort in the knowledge that in working within a system that exists soley to serve the elites, the people will achieve no important or lasting that threatens his class. The institutions of our government are iredeemably corrupt, the myth that it is of, by and for the People is useful for preventing insurrection. He need not worry. If tax cuts for the rich are enacted, they will never last. Sooner than later, they'll be back, or some other scam will be hatched that puts even more money in their pockets...at the expense of all others. McCain should just calm down and take his meds, there is no threat to his life of predation upon others.

mujinronsha's picture

and rethugs shouldn't be allowed to use it. Nor should they be able to call one of their own an "activist", especially not a "peace activist."

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