Matthews Hits Back on the Whining About Texas Being a Donor State: Biggest Donor States Are Blue States
By Heather Sunday Apr 19, 2009 10:45am
Chris Matthews asks Rep. John Culberson to respond to Tom DeLay's whining about Texas being a donor state and points out that the states which are the biggest donor states are mainly blue states and the ones which receive the most are primarily red states. Of course Culberson has to try to change the subject and talk about not wanting our children taxed instead of answering the question. You sure didn't see any Republicans coming on the television worried about our children's future while Bush was breaking the bank. Matthews gives it another shot and then... what else could he possibly retreat to? Culberson pulls out the France/socialism boogeyman card.
Matthews: Do you think Texas has a special complaint against the union because you believe that you're a donor state. That's what Tom DeLay said last night. A special complaint. It turns out that a lot of the liberal states which you guys would call Democrat states up in the Northeast, states like New Jersey, are the ones that spend the most money in taxes. Now maybe they should be complainers like Texas but, they're not complaining. Why are you guys complaining? Why are the pitchforks so out in the rural states?
Culberson: Because Texas is, because we see Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and this Congress trying to turn America into France. And Texas is not going to become France. We don't want to be a socialist, European nation. We treasure our freedom. We treasure local government. We treasure the right to let Texans run Texas.
Yeah, heaven forbid the US could become anything like that scary, scary France. The horror of possibly having nationalized health care, shorter work weeks and stronger unions. I don't know how we'd survive it. Matthews makes Culberson look as foolish as he is with his Texas loves America more than anyone nonsense that follows. They love it so much they want to leave it.
Culberson: ..the core point here is Texans have a special feeling in our hearts about what it means to be an American. And to be an American means the government should leave me alone and get off my back and get out of my way and get out of my wallet...(crosstalk)
Matthews: Who has that special feeling?
Culberson: More than anyone else I think Texans have a special feeling in their heart about what it means to be an American and the core values that made Americans...(crosstalk)
Matthews: You know how absurd that is Congressman. You say that you guys are more emotional about your Americanism and yet you've got a Governor talking about splitting from America. You know how absurd that sounds.
Culberson: He's not serious about it. Governor Perry...
Matthews: Why'd he..he did it all week this week. (crosstalk) You say you love the country but you're threatening to leave it.
Yes completely absurd and hypocritical but I'm sure they won't let that stop them from continuing with the absurdity. Never does. I want to hear that same tough talk out of these idiots the next time they have a hurricane and need some help from the Federal government.
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"Special" being the key word in that statement.
The Federal Government isn't listening to them on taxes. Well, now they know how gays in this country feel. How anti-war protesters feel, how people who still believe the Bill of Rights should mean something feel, how people who think human rights should mean something feel.
I also like how he claims to know how all Texans feel and that they all support his radical views.
Texas Gov. Rick Perry September 2008, from his own official website:
AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry has requested that FEMA extend for 18 months its agreement to pay 100 percent of emergency protective measures and debris removal for Hurricane Ike. He also asked federal officials to adjust the federal cost share to 100 percent for all categories of public assistance and expand direct federal assistance and hazard mitigation for all counties included in the governor’s original emergency declaration. “Hurricane Ike did at least $11 billion in damage to our state,” Gov. Perry said. http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-releas...
Gov Perry seven months later in April 2009: "We're trying to live our lives and you [Washington] are strangling us with your spending and your taxation."
Shouldna that be we treasure local governments until they try to enforce their own election laws, or regulate some gun ownership?
Culbertson is a long-time well oiled douchebag raised under the Tom Delay school of political diplomacy.
mixed feelings about Matthews, but when he's on his game, he hits it out of the ballpark.
Great job exposing the hypocrisy of these red state parasites,
I think when tweety is on he is tough but too many times he gets lost listening to his own voice.
He brought up what Tom Delay said about taxation and Texas. Why didn't he nail Delay when Delay was there. Like you guy s said, when he wants he can nail anyone to the wall. But when it comes to Delay he's his buttboy.
They should be carrying the same tax load as the rest of us.
Time for Tejas to start paying it's fair share.
Otherwise, let them secede. But make them give back all of the federal funding they've received in recent history. Like say, the last 5 years.
And yes, I know that they can't secede.
So start paying up.
Geezzzz, these guys don't know when to keep their mouths shut.
Now it's a story about them not paying their fair share.
stoooppiiddddddd.
The majority of the states that bring in the most tax revenue are those that primarily vote left-wing. Meanwhile the biggest welfare state (takes more federal money than brings in) is South "War of Northern Aggression and dead last in public education" Carolina.
This is why I think its funny when right-wing lunatics suggest that we should run this country like a business. If we did run the USA like a business, we would have sold off the states producing the least amount of tax revenue (which not surprisingly are also the ones with the most right-wing droolers inhabiting them) years ago.
gov. perry is full of b.s. he can't and won't turn his back on the fed. texas has more food stamp recipients per capita, they need fema for fires, more border help and several military bases. this is just perry doing that texas thing. don't mess with texas.
State Sales Tax: 6.25% (food, prescription and non-prescription drugs exempt); local option taxes can raise the rate to 8.25%.
No state personal income tax. Retirement income (including that of ex-Presidents)also not taxed.
Source: http://www.retirementliving.com/RLstate3.html
That is about the ONLY thing that makes this place worth living in.
Texas should raise taxes so they won't have to come begging the feds for money everytime they have a disaster.
:)
It's just been disaster after disaster. I think I'd rather take my chances with earthquakes.
Unless of course you have an irreplaceable kinda job and non-wingnut family you might miss!
to give me a job, and the money then.
How easy the employed seem to forget what's it's like not to have either of those.
You left out some figures.
Texas State and local Sales Taxes are (Temporarily) Federal Income Tax Deductible as are (Permanently) Deductible State Income Taxes.
Recently the Good Governor, Rick Perry and Republican Congress lowered Income Tax Deductible State Property Taxes by Taxing Small Business Owners who now pass that cost on to customers through non-Deductible higher prices; 99% of property owners never saved a Dime on their Property Tax Bills.
I really hate (crosstalk) trying to watch these talking head shows.
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Tweety (crosstalk) is one of the worst at (crosstalk) keeping a lid on himself and (crosstalk) his guests.
Question, and they continually try not to answer it but try to change the subject instead?
Rational people want to know!
Rationality is so pre-911.
what color code level is today? I don't know if I should be relaxed today or shitting in my pants!
I could turn on Fux and watch the chyron, but sitting in traffic on the 405 is much more entertaining...
Rational people want to know!
And so do I.
That Glennis Beckas wanted to kick California out of the Union .
He wanted us to secede from the union. We were just too much trouble for the likes of him.
But I enjoyed living there more than Texas. Of course I was in SF with all the evil libs. California is just like Texas more or less, large, big population, everything outside the big city areas are full of rednecks, and religious whackos are everywhere. But the secenery is prettier for the most part and it's never dull.
Sorry Culberson, you don't speak for all Texans. I'm tired of asswipes like this dude "speaking" for me.
A shit what you understand in your "hearts". What matters is do you understand it in you head?
"We treasure our freedom"
So you're saying European nations like France aren't free?
"we know instinctively that this government has gone too far."
So what gives Texans this special insight?
"Texans have a special feeling in our hearts about what it means to be an American"
Last I checked you Texans sided with the Confederacy, not the Union. Congratulations on your fail.
"We want Texans to run Texas"
Should have thought about that before you guys asked to join a federation.
"Tx Gov Suggest Secession"
Wow, so it's ok to suggest an act of treason?
Note: This isn't a blast against the average Texan going about their daily lives. I've got no beef with you.
We should of thought about that before we put the village idiot Yankee in as governor back in the 90s.
The state that was a nation with elected presidents for ten years, that didn't join until the 1840's when we said we would ABSORB THE MASSIVE DEBT THEY RACKED UP DURING THEIR REVOLUTION from Mexico? Screw you Texas!
It's one of our most backwards states and always has been. So, if they really DID love "Amuhrica" so much then maybe they'd do us all a favor and LEAVE. It would undoubtedly boost America's collective IQ by several points.
Might have to point out that NASA is here, hardly stupid people. As is Texas Instruments, etc. Also, a large amount of your precious oil would vanish too. So might want to stop with the regional bigoted remark there chum. We've got our share of numbnuts, as does every state, especially wherever you're from.
Try hanging in SoCal for a week. It'll strain your brain. Very high tech industry combined with the most backward thinking morons I've ever come across. The road to Escondido leads to insanity.
Vegas, then Salt Lake City; both far worse places than Escondido, IMHO..
Props for the Cale/Clapton reference...
what Escondido s. Escondido (look it up)
Go to places like Stockton and Modesto...the ignorance and blind hate is astounding!
My VA doctors just tells me the numbness will go away if I just fondle them less.
less tea bagging?
;)
Doctors have me off coffee too.
never been coffee bagged.
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They're big and black.
the 3rd guy didn't make a peep! Lol!
Better to just let the other guy just dig his hole deeper, huh?
oh, and good job Tweety!
just because you say incredibly mean, bigoted and stupid things with a big smile on their faces, it doesn't make their drivel any nicer, less bigoted, or reasonable...
That is something always bugged me about some folks down there. Their putrid fakedness.
You now understand the South. These are the same people that believe "Gone With the Wind" to be historically accurate. That just because they attach God and Jesus to any belief, it becomes the truth and the law. And when anything out of the "norm" is done by any of them, it is covered up and just NOT discussed.
I really hate living here.
It's like they think they are talking to dogs; however, people can actually understand words in addition to vocal inflections and body language.
In his attempt to encompass all facets of the current GOP talking points du jour, he winds up basing his rhetoric on pure fantasy. Dear John, the good old days are gone. There is nothing to fear but change itself, my friend.
He gets it right every so often.
he's fair and balanced? Maybe but I guess it depends on who you are comparing him with. Sometimes?
he seems to think Texas is America and it all started there and they are more patriotic then the rest of us. What about Delaware, New York or Pennsylvania. I'm sure my education was liberal but I thought they were states before Texas.
have a special Texas sized arrogance.
BIGGER in Texas!
Thatssa why our wimmin are always smilin'.
It takes a 90 something year old Texan to marry a 20 something Anna Nicole Smith.
was created 6,000 years ago by a magic invisible sky wizard.
And don't you forget it!!!!!
Funny how the most self-annointed patriots all come from former Confederate states.
that you haven't posted this clip. Cutting back on coffee will do that to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyFSdj1J5Vw
And some of those same jackasses probably like wave the Confederate flag around too.
"heaven forbid the US could become anything like that scary, scary France. The horror of possibly having nationalized health care, shorter work weeks and stronger unions. I don't know how we'd survive it."
Well put! And the sad fact is that America would survive it easily, the only people who would have a tough time with it would be the Owners of America, who would still make a huge profit, would have to take a smaller chunk then they are willing to accept.
Not to mention the mandatory paid vacation to spend on the beaches around the Mediterranean. Oh me, oh my.
... so that's enough for me to dislike the place.
Other than Austin, it's a sea of ignorance.
After giving the world the serial murdering madman Dubya, this state should STFU and be grateful that we haven't traded their asses to Mexico for a big bag of weed.
George is from Connecticut.
After listening to this loser spout his talking points I began wondering how long he rehearsed for his appearance with Chris. Tweety, although usually pushy to get HIS point across, was out talked by this bozo.
He'll make a good DeLay stoogie when Tom runs for president of the northern province of mexico against that twit perry. Glad to see 'em go...good ridance...
Talk about diarrhea of the mouth !!
Those so-called "anti-tax" polticians are frauds. There paycheck comes out of taxes. If they were really interested in ridding people of taxes they would resign.
Just work for free.
And probably make the federal court system work for free too, same with the military.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwiBBtMX0ac&fe...
its jon stewart reacting to how sarah palin likes small towns because theyre 'pro-america'
So I guess he's ready to get government out of the bedroom and out of marriage too?
Sounds good.
... he is just taking the advice of the leader of the repugnant party who said he'll move his $millions offshore and flee to New Zealand.
That's what they think REAL AMERICANS should be doing - leave the country and take your state with you.
So, are they "going Galt"?
Who in the heck voted for this Culberson idiot?!
<>emTexans have a "special" feeling about what it means to be an American.
Now when you say "special"... /leela
Rep. John Culberson... Your children and my children...
Chris Matthews... Why are we changing the subject???
Analysis... When you're not able too explain the whole "Truth" you must shape the story and answers!
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Texans/conservatives have a special feeling in their hearts...According to biblical anatomy, where does thinking happen?
"In the heart. --Biblical anatomy also rates an 'F.' The heart is an organ that pumps blood--it does not process thoughts, although the biblical writers erroneously thought it did. The word "brain" appears nowhere in the bible. "
"The word "heart" in the bible was not used in the modern sense of "emotion" because it is depicted as having thoughts, intentions, and imaginations. The emotions were usually considered to be in the kidneys"
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They don't want Government interference... Seems our history has covered this issue, though the diagnose did not wholly absolve the tumoral disease! As strange as it may sound... it's fortunate that it's been allowed to metastasize and in effect lost it's damaging properties somewhat.
Were Texas Republicans complaining when Bush was sending a bunch of pork barrel cash to the state when he was pResident? I didn't hear a peep.
If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent out Texas and live in Hell-J/K-ha
Texans - you still have a chance,hopefully Bush will soon begin his prison sentence and you will be rid of him. He never really was cowboy anyway..he is from Connecticut.
There are some good people in Texas...
Hopefully they will vote and some of these idiots will be out of work.
(fingers crossed)-
(eyes crossed)
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Ya want ya some Texass? I gotch some Texass right here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Great-State-of-Texas_W0QQitemZ170322454911QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLand?hash=item170322454911&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
The only way to remain sane is to smother these wingnuts with mockery and ridicule. No one deserves it more.
And I'm not knocking all Texans, I'm sure there are lots of nice people living there, it's unfortunate for them that they are represented by yahoos Shrub, Armey, Perry, DeLay et al ad nauseum.
Edit: Sorry folks, E-bay must have taken down this link. It was a mock E-bay listing auctioning off Texas. Too bad it's been deleted. Hope some of you got to see it.
out
CT → TX ?
Poppy's in the oil bidness. True to form , Shrub couldn't find oil in Texas!
Of course, Shrub couldn't find water if he fell out of a boat, but even so....OIL---TEXAS.
'Nuff said.
did "Poppy" live in TX at one time?Amended: Never mind, I see he did... "Graduating in 1948, he moved his family to West Texas" Thanks again anyway...
As one with an eye on truth, I'm sure you realize that the truth shall set you free.
Cheers.
Sun, 04/19/2009 - 15:39 — woodguy
Poppy's in the oil bidness. True to form , Shrub couldn't find oil in Texas!
Of course, Shrub couldn't find water if he fell out of a boat, but even so....OIL---TEXAS.
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I particularly like patchoulli and mimosa.
be willing to take a pay cut-----this shit just writes itself.
Stay safe.
Ken Kaniff touched him...
By calling him on his OLD, TIRED GOP RHETORIC.
Why didn't he ask, "Where were you complaining about "Tax and Spend Government" when George W. Bush was INCREASING SPENDING MORE THAN ANY PRESIDENT IN HISTORY????"
And "Why are you complaining about taxes now that Obama is LOWERING THEM FOR 98% of Americans?"
And "When did the GOP start being concerned about our childrens' future?"
Was it when you started torturing people? Or when you sold out to the banks to create this depression?
..if memory serves I think he did hit him on the when were you complaining about spending when Bush was in office earlier in the segment, but to have it in there would have made the clip too long to use here. Your other points, he missed.
The State Board of Education is STILL in a rampage over teaching EVOLUTION in Texas high schools.
You can put your FOUR-YEAR-OLD on the back of your motorcycle and take him/her out on the highway... no laws to prevent it.
Texas will CLOSE A HIGH SCHOOL if Spanish speaking students flunk standardized Texas State tests... which are written in ENGLISH.
The state of TEXAS is taking federal stimulous money for building and repairing roads... and PUTING IT INTO TOLL ROAD CONSTRUCTION... so contract construction companies get lots of federal cash to stay in business... and THE PEOPLE get another OVER-PRICED PAY-FOR-USE HIGHWAY.
It's still legal here to talk on your cell phone and TEXT MESSAGE... while driving.
The newly constructed high-speed rail commuter train in Austin is HUNG UP and STALLED over mandated safety requirements which were aparantly NOT installed.
Some people here REALLY think that U.S.35 is blessed by GOD.
I can pick up Sean Hannity on FIVE DIFFERENT AM RADIO STATIONS here in Austin in the afternoons.
"Some people here REALLY think that U.S.35 is blessed by GOD."
Route 35 that there serial killer highway?
Bet those "More American Than YOU" Goopers sucked up the earmarks without a peep to get that built.
Oh & for the record, why isn't Tom Delay in jail?
What I think is funny (and ironic) about all this is, if Texas were indeed to secede, unless it becomes some sort of soldiers-on-every-street-corner dictatorship, it would only be a matter of months before Texas' Hispanic population took over the place.
I would enjoy watching this.
How long would it take Texas if it was on its own to become owned by China?
What of all of Texas's ear marks. Earmarks are not counted in the state paid per dollar returned by the Federal Gov't.
Texas wants to have free markets. China while win their free market competition with China. Let alone other countries.
And Texas will not have a trade agreement with the United States. They can go out to that free world market and buy their own energy Oil). If they think Gas is expensive now. Wait till Texas finds out what their buying power in that (left alone) free world market will cost them.
Jeb Bush can then become King of Texas !!!!
Too late:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBGCshzdrY4&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3C_wLCZ18M
To guys, a Texan and a Vermonter, are standing on the Brooklyn Bridge, both taking a leak....
After a minute....the Texan says, "Maaaannnnnnn, this water is cold!"
A few seconds later, the
Vermonter retorts, "Yeah, and deep too!"
ps....only Texans would ever believe this incident ever happened.
I wish just once that a Reslug could answer one question without changing the subject over and over and going on a the old same senseless, rambling tirade.
i'm canadian first off. we have provinces that have attempted to secede from canada. heck, as much as the USA disregards canada, you guys must have heard about quebec wanting to secede. or alberta. isn't the point of a united 'states' of america, built on the foundation that 'states' could secede? is that treason? my view is, let them go. as non-donor states they have nothing to contribute. eff-them.
maybe i'm wrong. but please prove me otherwise.
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