Matthews Gets Family Research Council's Sprigg to Admit He Thinks Homosexuality Should be Outlawed
While discussing Don't Ask Don't Tell with the Family Research Council's Peter Sprigg and the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network's Aubrey Sarvis, Chris Matthews gets Peter Sprigg to admit just how extreme his views are on gay rights. Throw 'em in prison. I'm sorry but why is it every time I see one of these anti-homosexual, bigoted, religious zealots spouting this kind of crap on the television my Ted Haggard self-loathing closeted homosexual gay-dar goes off? Whatever his sexual orientation, I'm tired of watching the main stream media give his ilk face time to spread their hatred.
Matthews: Let me ask you Peter, so you think people choose to be gay.
Sprigg: People do not choose to be have same sex attractions, but they do choose to engage in homosexual conduct. And that conduct also which incidentally is against the law within the military. It violates the Uniform Code of Military Justice. It doesn't make any sense for us to be actively recruiting people who are going to violate the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Matthews: Do you think we should outlaw gay behavior?
Sprigg: Well I think certainly...
Matthews: I'm just asking you, should we outlaw gay behavior?
Sprigg: I think that the Supreme Court decision in Lawrence v. Texas which overturned the sodomy laws in this country was wrongly decided. I think there would be a place for criminal sanctions against homosexual behavior.
Matthews: So we should outlaw gay behavior?
Sprigg: Yes.
Matthews: Okay thank you much Peter Sprigg. We know your position. It's a clear one. Thank you.
Love his little chuckle at the end. Portrait of hate.
is intended to be a factual statement
He gets a hard-on for hate.
"why is it every time I see one of these anti-homosexual, bigoted, religious zealots spouting this kind of crap on the television my Ted Haggard self-loathing closeted homosexual gay-dar goes off?"
Because that's usually the case? But don't worry 10-12 days sequestered with other men like him will have him humbled to his hands an knees moved by the Spirit to call out to Jesus.
"I'm tired of watching the main stream media give his ilk face time to spread their hatred."
To many people, it's not hatred or prejudice. It's been accepted in our society for so long that many see it as a moral conviction, not a prejudice. For those more accustomed to Lizard Brain levels of thought, like Fox viewers, the associated "ick factor" is simply proof that they are right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ
United States of Uganda?
Where do you think Uganda gets its ideas from. The religious right in America. Hey Peter, the 1950's called, they want their thoughts back.
is intended to be a factual statement
Kurt Cobain said everyone is gay.
Where will we get our troops now?
San Fran.
you remember them? (that crappy evangelical rap group).
they covered Nirvana's All Apologies, but in their version they replace "everyone is gay" with "jesus all the way".
sorry for the totally unrelated aside, but i love when people cite popular rock songs.
Well for me it makes us even.
Matthews: So we should outlaw
gay behaviorthe Family Research Council?SpriggME: Yes.:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
"the Family Research Council"
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In a document entitled “Our Common Agreement as a Core Group,” members of the Family are instructed to form a “core group,” or a “cell,” which is defined as “a publicly invisible but privately identifiable group of companions.” A document called “Thoughts on a Core Group” explains that “Communists use cells as their basic structure. The mafia operates like this, and the basic unit of the Marine Corps is the four man squad. Hitler, Lenin, and many others understood the power of a small core of people.”
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They are truly terrorists and so their cells are terrorist cells.
We should arrest them as enemy combatants hold them without charge and keep them locked up forever. See how they like THAT!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
"the
FamilyFascist Research Council"Fixed that for ya.
As long as they ain't doing it in public
Who cares?
You can't even walk down a highschool hallway without
Seeing straight students
Sucking face.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Who the hell cares?
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
"Does it really matter what these affectionate people do-- so long as they don’t do it in the streets and frighten the horses!"
Mrs. Patrick Campbell
(I think she paraphrased Victor Hugo)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
sitting, and all that stuff you necesarily didn't want to see. With gay students however, the most I've ever seen is holding hands, and never any further than that.
I don't why straight Conservative Christians act like GLBT's are only there to be on display and offensive to them? *shrug*
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
been that long ago either...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Just what side of stupid are you on that you can be outmaneuvered by Chris Matthews?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Or I'll have to remain hiding under my bed, quivering in a fugue of fear at the idea that somebody can be different from me...
Hey Peter - go research your own dysfunctional frakkin' family.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYDDLg02Gc
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and you gotta bring toccata into it?
I intuit that toccata be kiddin' me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vN9nadqtQ&fe...
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when I want a break to go off topic, I look for your links : )
Out there....
after all they're the ones marrying your daughters and making everyone miserable.
ask Ariana....or Gayle Haggard.....or Suzanne Craig.
well you get the idea.
...get his opinions from? Never-mind
Must be some instruction manual, on how to live life :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I've never known a straight person who had to fear the gays or show some kind of hatred against gays to be straight. Those people who have unrealized questions about their sexuality only fear themselves.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
what will the religious right do on their meth fuelled benders?
"I could give a flying crap about the political process.... We're an entertainment company."
- Glenn Beck - Forbes interview; April 26, 2010
Don't you mean to say WITH their meth fuelled benders?
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
I'm just about to the point of getting rid of cable and internet " service " , am about maxed out on the insanity and the right wing lunatics . Wish we could go back to the old days , an hour or so of real news in the AM and an hour or so in the evening , back when people had some integrity and a conscience to deal with .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
cuz then we could finally lock up about 90 percent of the repuke leadership
They do kinda like to kiss each other's butts, don't they? Hmmmm.....
We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!
most self identified repubs are extremist nuts who don't want to compromise.
dems need to force votes and undertake other measures to bring this craziness out into the open.
clear majorities will run away from them en masse when they are called to the carpet and make the inevitable choice to pander to their fringe base.
I hate them......they clash with EVERYTHING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiVvA9YQpiI
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Matthews: Okay thank you much Chancellor Hitler. We know your position. It's a clear one. Thank you.
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I do not think there is enough attention paid to the millions of people that believe that if society in any way tolerates gay behavior "GOD" will punish them for not doing something about it and the nation for letting it happen. If more light were shed on that aspect, and show it for how crazy and ridiculous it sounds when spoken out loud then maybe a whole bunch of people might rethink their attitude. Very much like when Falwell and Robertson blamed 9/11 on gays, abortionists, the ACLU, and the People For the American Way. The light was shown on them for what they are and they had to back peddle for months.
You do realize they are doing it AGAIN. Using "gay" as a wedge issue to fuck up any legislation and slam Dems and the left. Why no one openly and powerfully stands up to these hate-filled sacks of crap and shoves their hate back down their throats is beyond me. Generally the only high profile people that will stand up to these idiots are Hollywood celebrities, and of course, they are all a bunch of deranged queers anyway.
...kissing? Will same-gender kissing be allowed? It's not sodomy.
How about hand jobs? Allowed? They're not sodomy, either.
Toe sucking?
Ear lobe nibbling?
would have to be controlled by the honor system....
that if you enjoy anal, you might as well be gay because you could just be doing a guy that way... I retorted that the same can be said of blowjobs... I mean, guys have mouths, right? so if you like getting head, you must be gay!
"I could give a flying crap about the political process.... We're an entertainment company."
- Glenn Beck - Forbes interview; April 26, 2010
There's only ever one reason conservatives want something made illegal. So they can hoard it themselves while they deny it to poorer people.
Like cigarettes in prison the GOPhers want a black market for gay sex.
I guess it also explains why they are against equal marriage.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Interview with Bill Steigerwald, Pittsburgh Tribune Review 11/30/02
“How do you define your politics or did you just do that?”
“If you run thru a pecking order of issues, I’d probably be liberal in terms of pro-abortion rights and pro-gay rights.”
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http://www.hccns.org/Docs/MatthewProChoice.doc
Study the symptoms not the virus...
This is off-topic, but Jon Stewart is paying BillO a visit tonight!
is just misogyny disguised....
Next would be trying to outlaw all homosexuality in nature...
tall order....
Homophobia is just homosexuality disguised. This guy speaks of same sex attractions and choosing not to act on them.
Arrest all the gay people, lock 'em up in one place (hopefully with a nice beach and weather) and THAT will stop that nasty gay behavior!
Oh, wait....
We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!
How come all these extreme right wing "Christian" zealots look like the inbred spawn of Howdy Doody. Can someone explain?
Um, because they are "the inbred spawn of Howdy Doody"
I'm just guessin here but it would explain a lot.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
which means they have "howdy duty".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-IPXpvRaU
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Would Tweety have on a member of the KKK to discuss race relations? Or a neo Nazi on to discuss Jews in our society? Of course not! But for some reason it's okay to bring on someone with an axe to grind and grant him television time to denounce LGBT Americans. This is why I don't watch Tweety.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
but I've got to believe that the words of that hateful waste of humanity, Sprigg, creep out a lot of fair minded individuals.
In that way, it's a service to humanity.
Sprigg. Brrrrr.
Yeah. Cause there's no homosexual activity going on in prison.
...or in the armed forces. Ask soldiers returning from Kandahar about man-love Thursdays.
designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, yet Tweety invites them on to speak. Is he trying to be the Jerry Springer of cable news or what?
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Sunshine ☼ :)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZqb2VVc48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3V8EznD4Jo
(I saw this movie at Edwards AFB base theatre).
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Impact?
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no shit, i am getting some serious blips on my gay-dar screen from peter sprigg (not to mention tony perkins... whoops, just did)
its fascinating to read (see, the family) just how overtly homoerotic some of the rituals performed by some of the far right evangelical groups can be (like all-guy pile ons, and other things that raise the proverbial eyebrows).
This is how they pray: a dozen clear-eyed, smooth-skinned “brothers” gathered together in a huddle, arms crossing arms over shoulders like the weave of a cable, leaning in on one another and swaying like the long grass up the hill from the house they share. The house is a handsome, gray, two-story colonial that smells of new carpet and Pine-Sol and aftershave; the men who live there call it Ivanwald.
At the end of a tree-lined cul-de-sac, quiet but for the buzz of lawn mowers and kids playing foxes-and-hounds in the park across the road, Ivanwald sits as one house among many, clustered together like mushrooms, all devoted, like these men, to the service of Jesus Christ. The men tend every tulip in the cul-de-sac, trim every magnolia, seal every driveway smooth and black as boot leather...
Study the symptoms not the virus...
And then one day they had this ritual where they trick you and another guy to get down on the floor and lie on your belly to arm-wrestle, and you're arm-wrestling to prove your manhood. And you start to do it, and they all jump on you and start beating you. It's called a "Fumble". So there's 15 people beating and hitting me, and by this time I had already been there a couple of weeks and thought this place was weird. When this beating happened, I just hit back with full force because I was really scared. And they liked that, they liked the fact that I hit back. That was their idea of manliness
http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a46...
whatever it is, it is effin' bizarre. say hello to our future overlords...
The best way to change our way of thinking is to EXPOSE bigoted behavior for all to see. Refusal to let these people tell us what they believe is no different from a gay staying in the closet.
I believe homophobia is learned behavior. Hopefully, the children of bigots learn their parents are wrong, and that system of belief dies in the grave with their parents.
The problem is not homosexuality, it's bigotry and homophobia. Shine the light on it and rational folks will see it's only hatred shrouded in religious belief.
Tweety should have asked Sprigg if he sodomizes his wife.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Well if tweety won't...
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I'm waiting for one of these guys to also say that adultery should be outlawed too. I guess hell will freeze over first.
love themselves some gay sex too, but can't bring themselves to admit it.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
you can bet this guy and those like him have to live with their homo phobia's every day of their lives and consider it a sin to have those thoughts.
as hard as it is to say compassion is in order for these folks because those regressed feelings can make life a hell on earth for them.
the are projecting that self loathing for themselves on to the rest of the world.
they are using religious beliefs to hide behind.
always seek the underlying reality of this type of behaviour.
and their religious beliefs tell them they are going to hell for enternity. one can only imagine the hell on earth they are going through with their not so secret thoughts.
and if you think that is good for them then that puts you right in bed with them. pun intended.
think that compassion is a liberal attribute....
In the King James version of the bible, "liberal" is a good word. The word "conservative" appears nowhere in the bible.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
"Peter Sprigg was arrested today in an undercover sting operation attempting to solicit sex from a police officer in a men's bathroom."
The most furious opponents always seem to be the most repressed and self-loathing.
"The Good and Great Must Ever Shun, That Reckless and Abandoned One
Who Stoops to Perpetrate a Pun," Lewis Carroll, 'The Three Voices.'
Anyone still thing that Christianity is some how different from the Islamic Taliban? Anyone?
Same MO... slightly different business plan and forward looking statement(s). √
Study the symptoms not the virus...
is a large body of water and a few shades of skin tone.
I have a hard time with Tweety, because he is often an insufferable fool, but there are moments when he shines. This was one, teasing the guy out about his position, then leaving Sprigg there to twist in the wind with his final statement about the crazy fundy Christian being "clear".
Sprigg's probably going to come out of the closet some day.............
Same-sex sexual intimacy in other species is a natural mechanism which establishes a social hierarchy, strengthens social cohesion and provides sexual release that might otherwise culminate in violence or over-population. It is people like this idiot Sprigg who are unnatural.
because we have all these self righteous bigots out there doing his work.. Wont they be surprised..
Countdown until Spriggs is caught on his knees in an airport men's room or smoking meth with a male prostitute.
Spriggs is super gay. Nothing wrong with that, but his judgment of others who choose not to grab a beard to pass as straight because that's been his choice, is reprehensible.
me-oww!
The idea of a new federal agency to catch these people in the act is laughable.
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