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I don't agree with Mark Halperin about very much, but I agree with him on this one. After a discussion on Sarah Palin going to speak to the Tea Bag Convention and whether or not this is an independent movement or disgruntled Republican voters, Mark Halperin lists the reasons Sarah Palin will never be President.

Brzezinski: Mark Halerin is there a third party wave brewing? Is it real?

Halperin: It’s real and there for someone who has a lot of money that they could spend tens of millions on a campaign and who had real ideas about how to unite left and right because there is commonality such as going after Wall Street. I see no such person. Can I state three other reasons why to date Sarah Palin will never be president?

Brzezinski: Yeah.

Halperin: One is that Republican elites behind her back think she’d be horrible for the party. Two is, she’s not appealing to anybody but a narrow slice of American life and she’s heading more and more in that direction based on her rhetoric.

And finally and I think it’s best for the country. She has no ideas. She stands for nothing specific. To go into an event like that with the opportunity to say “I hear you disaffected Democrats” and here’s where we need to go. Great opportunity—she wasn’t woken up and kidnapped and flown to this event.

It’s been on her schedule for a long time. To come in so ill prepared for both the event and the interview with no ideas I think forfeits any claim on being a credible national leader right now.

Anyone believe Halperin or the rest of them are just figuring this out now? I sure don't. Don't you just love Peggy Noonan making sure everyone knows what John noted here earlier—that Sarah Palin now owns the tea bag movement which has been co-opted by the Republican Party and Fox News. But that’s been obvious since Dick Armey and Tim Phillips and other astroturfers got in there and started planning rallies. She made sure to let the rest of the cast know that these people will be voting for Republicans even though she and Mike Barnicle tried to act like there were a bunch of disaffected Democrats in that crowd. I doubt there were very many of them if any.

Noonan also claims there were a thousand people watching her. I thought they were only trying to sell 600 tickets and they couldn’t get those to sell out? Nothing like over-hyping the crowd size and calling it a movement when we had quite a few more show up for events like Netroots Nation. They weren’t giving that prime time live coverage on all the cable news stations and saying that the Democrats had better listen to the netroots or they were going to be in trouble the next election.

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The Mika Brzezinski guide to hosting: move head very deliberately while making intrigued noises.

ricky's picture

snore surpressor?


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

From KingNot: Democrat BAD, Pretty Girl GOOD
This explains her appeal better than I ever could.

Palin will be "allowed" run on a third party "Teabag Party"
platform and, like Ralph Nader in 2000, will run solely to
attract enough votes to bump Patraeus and/ or Romney into office.
It might be President Patraeus and VP Romney b/c Romney will
never be president except by accident or scandal(Sanford, Esign).
It's a beautiful world, isn't it?

MikeD's picture

If Palin ran as a third party candidate she would draw far more votes away from the republicans than the democrats. I don't think she will though. There is no money in it. As far as I can tell she is really in all this just for the money and fame. You can't charge $100K+ for speaking fees if you want to be a presidential candidate. Then again who knows the way things are going more insane every day in this country maybe she will be the first for profit candidate.

Colin Day's picture

will run solely to attract enough votes to bump Patraeus and/ or Romney into office.

Will attract enough votes from whom? Wouldn't she (as a third-party candidate) attract voters who would otherwise vote Republican?

Hey Noonan...STFU!

You noted:

we had quite a few more show up for events like Netroots Nation. They weren’t giving that prime time live coverage on all the cable news stations and saying that the Democrats had better listen to the netroots or they were going to be in trouble the next election.

That's because the netroots are angry liberal Socialists with crazy radical ideas so far out of the mainstream like Wall Street and corporate accountability, human rights, equal rights and Civil Liberties, fair wages and social safety nets, progressive taxes and less war (and smarter war). I mean, it's obvious normal Americans are more concerned with common sense issues like Obama's birth certificate, FEMA concentration camps, waging war on everyone outside our border and even the ones inside who don't look or think like "real Americans", ending the public education system and other public hand-outs, and installing a Christian Theocracy that supports Israel's right to be a pawn in the End of Days.

By the way, notice one of the reasons Palin couldn't be elected is because "She's one of the folks" - Isn't that what conservatives vote for most? A good ol' cowboy with a ranch and simple talk (Bush, Reagan), a guy with a truck (Brown), a crazy incompetent loon (Hoffman in the NY-23 race)... That seems to be the only consistent thing conservatives actually vote for.

catch on to the fact that even the rightwing nut cases think she is crazy. Or at least incompetent. That is really saying something coming from such a messed up group of criminals and overpaid corporate liars, and in general people from the lower rung of the ladder both intelligently and morally.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

SpookyMulder's picture

republicanism/conservatism is white trashism or has become white trashism.

Shadowgm's picture

... it's denial that the crazy trollop could possibly unseat the White Male power structure.

They thought the same about the skinny black dude with the funky name.

Maybe she has caught on, but who else would pay her for anything? She probably spends more money on her vanity in a year than most people make in a decade so she needs money coming in.

Since any real company would fire her she needs to stoke her stardom and make as much as she can now.

Blue Lensman's picture

"Sarah is dumber than a rock. And such."

dsmith's picture

And because she is dumber than a rock, Bill Kristol and the rest of the bloodthirsty Zionist neocons know that if she was president, all they would have to say is, "Bomb Iran!" Her only question would be..."Should I tell the military to use convential or nuclear warheads?"

That's why she is being groomed by the neocons, who control a large portion of what you see on TV. When was the last time you saw any footage of the Iraq or Afghanistan war, or heard about their suffering families?...and you won't!


don smith

Uh, Mark? You left out the most obvious reason. She is completely unqualified. The only reason she got elected Governor of Alaska is because those idiots up there voted with their other heads.

After all, he supported Mr. Bottom of His Class.

Sarah's response..."Read my lips and talk to the hand"...or was it "Read my hand and talk to the lips"?


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Shadowgm's picture

Mark "Semen in Mary's Hair" Halperin is a credible source.

or intelligent, or has anything to offer, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth coming from Misogynist Mark.


I've never seen change without a fire

hey getting mark's opinion is kool. for me i don't need it. sarah palin is a fraud. she talks only in generalities. palin is nothing close to an intellect. she's a voice for the fools that are under the spell of the neoCONs. all she does is spew hate for people NOT like herself, fear and warmongering.

Shadowgm's picture

... to me, she's something to worry about. This nation has been laboring under that same spell since 9/11, and it's still just as potent, perhaps moreso, than when it first got used.

When we have political leaders endorsing torture and callous disregard for Constitutional rights, we have the breeding ground for the kind of ignorance that Sarah Palin represents.

She's folksy! She can win! USA USA USA! Sarah...oh Sarah...when I look at you...and you wink at me...I can feel my patriotism rising...pushing against the very fabric of socialism that's holding it back...


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Was 9/11 the day we first screwed the Indians, landed the first boatlaod of slaves, or simply decided we did not like "wops"?


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

constituent's picture

she's dangerous. i believe some of the moderate (r)'s would like to see her vanish. she's just doing the dirty work as a cheerleader for romney. she's also campaigning for perry in texas. perry is a life time politician. these are the people that tell us government doesn't work. they don't want it to work.

ricky's picture

And reads reasons Mark Halperin will never be a journalist.


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

Rich H's picture

I just watched Colbert's take down of Palin (I've been busy for a while so maybe it's already been posted), stupendous.

ricky's picture

up!


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

Anais's picture

Brilliant in his takedown of Palin. Or in his takedowns of just about any other political hypocrite. She keeps giving video proof after proof of how she should never be president. What a vacuous airhead.

Elite Republicans think she bad for them.
She appeals to a narrow base.
She is stupid.

Ronald Reagan.


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

Michelle's picture

Did you catch Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs, blog) telling Ron Reagan that he didn't know his father. Cracked me up, a woman who never met the man, knows him better than his son.

From Media Matters:Atlas Shrugs' Geller asserts Ron Reagan can't "speak for [his] father" regarding Palin

Longer video at CNN.

Project is correct, everyday. ;o}


I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all

jakes's picture

from wikipedia

...concluded that "Reagan Democrats" no longer saw Democrats as champions of their working class aspirations, but instead saw them as working primarily for the benefit of others: the very poor, the unemployed, African Americans, and other groups...They also supported Reagan's strong stance on national security and opposed the 1980s Democratic Party on such issues as pornography, crime, and taxes.

not sure if Reagan Democrat is anymore valid than soccer mom's but even if tea-partier conventioneers are mostly repubs the message gets to the - vote against your self-interest because of ignorance and spite - democrats...

Mount's picture

Believe it or not i think the palm reading thing will be the moment everyone remembers when thinking of Palin in ten years. She will be a blip in the history books. Her lack of intelligence and education is endearing to the teabaggers, her complete lack of policy understanding in confusing to the teabaggers too, there eyes gloss over 3 sentences into an actual policy debate. BUT crib notes is something they can understand. Like clintons BJ, it is like cliff notes to them, they finally have something they can discuss in 2 word sentences. Palin meet Fonzi

ricky's picture

Everybody wants em.


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

Hulk's picture

she is in the same class as buchanan, that dolt on MTP, and half the oportunistic talk hosts on the Sunday morning shows. What a pathetic rag of a human being.

palin is pathetic. Anyone who thinks she has ANYTHING to offer for this country needs to enlighten me, please!!!

Shadowgm's picture

Rich Lowry: Ooooooooh, Sarah. OhgodyespleasepleaseSarah.

Bill Kristol: She's eminently qualified. Just like I'm always right.

walt kovacs's picture

and i want her to win the republican nom in 2012

and i will push all my republican friends to support her

and i will send her money

for she will be the death knell for that corrupt and incompetent party

Shadowgm's picture

Being corrupt and incompetent is easy. In fact, you can always be MORE corrupt and MORE incompetent.

Unfortunately, the Dems have this track record of blowing elections, as with Terry McAuliffe's 'We'll take 2004 in a cakewalk,' and Martha 'It's too cold to campaign' Coakley.

and the helipcopter breaks down in the desert.


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

Liberalicious's picture
Yes

Look forward to some large unresolvable Middle East Crisis (complete with theme music and graphics) in the next 2 years, but this time the right will forward TWO clueless idiots for President, rather than one, keeping the true controllers of the government out of the public eye.

Peter G's picture

the phrase " She not only doesn't know shit, she doesn't even suspect shit". I think we have to invent a new term for her base. They aren't "no-nothings" they are "suspect nothings".


Hasa Diga Eebowai

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

The more loony tunes the Right becomes, the more conservative the Democrats can be while still appearing "liberal."

Liberalicious's picture

Conspiracy theory aside, whta you'll see as the Dems more to the right, more Rethugs will jump ship and join tghem, the die-hards will stay with the loonies and become a fringe, and since there is no strong visible progressive leading left-wing in this country, we'll just wind up with a one-party conservative (while not Rethuglican in name) government.

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture
Yep

Meanwhile, Wall Street chugs along getting stronger by the minute.

Liberalicious's picture

n/t

Shadowgm's picture

So when the corporate policy of torture and indefinite detention backfires, the corporate officers all skip town and leave some poor schlub holding the bag.

Liberalicious's picture

LLCs aren't people!!!!!

;)

constituent's picture

i believe you're on to something there. palin moves certain demographics far...far right....pulling moderate/conservative democrats along with them.......at least within the reddish spectrum. to me it's to continue the oil/financial(wars) imperialism. even though the people would disapprove if they really knew the truth. it's to keep people fragmented/in fear and to only think about themselves. palin keeps the fire stoked for hate of the "collective".

Liberalicious's picture

After all, resistance is futile.

Since America is not center right as we insist, if THEIR plan is to move R's to the edge of the right cliff, and Dems to the mid-right behind them, won't that pave the way for the coming of good Old Boy King Dennis and a progressive Cuyahoga Spring in America? Boy will that upset their plan.


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

Blue Lensman's picture

Nature abhors a vacuum.

Watch the tape of the "one on one" interview session.

Look at the posture and facial expressions of the questioner. I guess that poor bastard drew the short straw.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

them!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

KingNot's picture

Sounds crazy but it's true. Most Americans don't focus on issues anymore. Presidential elections have become like football games. Like high school popularity contests. I know so many people that would vote Sarah for no particular reason other than they like her on the tube. They believe that the world was utopia until Obama 'took their guns away'. Grunt grunt Democrat BAD. Pretty Girl Good...

Liberalicious's picture

I don't think Palin/Brown would work unless she can overcome her appearance of ineptitude in a year or so, who knows? But this IS the ideal pairing for a perfect shadow corporate controlled government with clueless sheep leading the way.

refer to the subject line. Sarah can win for this reason alone.

Mark Halperin...

didn't you foist this incompetent train wreck on the American public at large?
so what does that make you, aside from King of the Idiots?

selected Halperin quotes:
"Palin is a talented politician who has both support among conservatives and a compelling personal story."

"the media, which will be fascinated by Palin's good looks (matched by those of her dishy husband), intelligence and charm."

"There are three bad reasons [for the "frenzy" against Palin]. One is the liberal press."

Halperin is a mush-brain.

longnow's picture

From KingNot: Democrat BAD, Pretty Girl GOOD
This explains her appeal better than I ever could.

Palin will run on a third party "Teabag Party" platform
and, like Ralph Nader, will attract enough votes to bump
Patraeus and/ or Romney into office. It might be
President Patraeus and VP Romney b/c Romney will
never be president. It's a beautiful world, isn't it?

scooter's picture

a bag of hammers
a box of rocks
a small soap dish
a styrofoam cup

please feel free to continue and add more

ricky's picture

matched with the right tool.


"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator

GonzoD's picture

that Palin has no ideas is not a detriment to her. Her supporters have no ideas either. When asked, most can't name a policy position that Palin has taken.

Then again, when you don't take a position on any policies........

rip's picture

The elevation of SP is all part of the elaborate scheme to get Reagan's head carved into Mt. Rushmore.

First get GWB to make Reagan look smart and beloved in comparison - Now even Dems think that Reagan wasn't as bad as all that.

Next - Have Sarah Palin make GWB look thoughtful and competent - thereby raising Reagan's reputation higher.

Finally - promote Michelle Bachman to make Sarah Palin seem at least sane, and Reagan will start to look like Jefferson, Lincoln and FDR rolled into one. Break out the chisels!

sharksbreath's picture

I'm looking to give them any excuse for their insanity.

Shadowgm's picture

More like replace the existing four with St. Ronnie.

I mean, come on, Washington - a guy who couldn't even lie to his own father? Jefferson, the guy who gave us 'separation of church and state'? Lincoln, the guy who freed the slaves? Roosevelt, who set aside all that land for 'national parks'?

Liberal commie socialist bastards to the last man.

/snark

sharksbreath's picture

She wears a great pair of Hooker Boots.

Peter G's picture

How many people turned up for this massive rally in Nashville?


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Shadowgm's picture

ALL OF THEM.

Kreskin's picture

Yeah baby ! Power to the stupid ! Stupid power ! Bush got elected for a second term ( I know , they stole it but it should not have even been close enough to steal ) and given the cult of the stupid in this country , the Republican psychos , the MSM such as it is and the performance of Obama and the Dems so far , nothing would surprise me .

g.hudson68's picture

Huh, interesting... she does seem like having a gift for capturing the anger and very comfortable criticizing opponents "How's that hopey-changey stuff working out for you?
http://www.newsy.com/videos/palin-positioning...
Here's another site that explores more perspectives from several sources, take a look and enjoy more of Sarah Palin

constituent's picture

is to takeover the "tea party" movement so to protect the two party system/dualism. in it's infancy the tea party was anti both parties. this has/had republicans scared to death. so they bring in the populist
palin to takeover the tea party.........it's a bait and switch. palin is a fraud.....she's a neoCON pro war and pro patriot act........anti constitution. i'm not a tea bagger but i see the importance of other party participation ie. independents.

Kreskin's picture

Palin doesn't know what she is , she's simply a blithering idiot making a lot of money off people dumber than she is courtesy of the McCain campaign and the MSM who are making this low IQ nobody out to be someone of importance . It's getting reeeeeeeeeeeal old .

For once, the three against one, that usually happens against progressives was in our favor. Two guests were Stephanie Miller and Ron Reagan. Not sure who the Repub was, but she sure sounded like she belonged on "Jersey Shores". The Political Carnival has a vid of it up.

Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs blog)


I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all

"She made $100,000 on the speech, she wants to give it back but I think that's a little iffy"

Iffy? They'll find WMD's in Iraq before she gives that money back. Giving that money back was never part of her plan. Just another Palin lie. She's not it this to run for president, she's in it to extend her 15 minutes as long as she can to bilk her dimwitted white racist teabaggers out of every dollar she can. And part of me hopes she's sucessful.

mjb's picture

There probably aren't any in the TeaBag anymore, but don't underestimate the numbers of the disaffected with the taste of taint in their mouths after the Democrats have seemingly actively decided to do absolutely nothing with the power that was handed them in 2008.

Although, the disaffection probably comes from those who see themselves as more liberal than the current Democratic party and so would never associate with the Tea Party...or the Democratic party for that matter. What I find amusing - in a I-just-vomited-in-my-mouth-a-little sort of way - is that the public discourse (media) keeps portraying the Obama administration and current D-party in Washington as some far-left, uber-liberal, socialist movement. When, in reality, its their center-to-right tendencies that have most of their supporters upset. Yet more proof that in 2000 the world did come to an end and we were all "left behind" on Bizarro Earth.

Jeany's picture

Halperin's schtick has a Mommy, and her name is Ana Marie Cox.

Skruffy's picture

Your pasture is calling you. Why the talk shows keep calling you is beyond me.

mikeeee's picture

ever opened that gaping maw on the front of her face without showing what a liar she is?

merkin's picture

folks...

everyone...

SHE WILL BE PRESIDENT.

It's GOING TO HAPPEN...

Why?

Because people in America are just that stupid.

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