Lou Dobbs: The "Left Wing Media" Has Attacked Me-- While He Continues His Birther Attack on Obama
By Heather Friday Jul 24, 2009 7:45am
Poor little old innocent Lou Dobbs. That big, bad "left wing" media is attacking him for "simply asking questions". Oh...so that's what you were doing? So saying he had a "document problem" wasn't meant to imply he's an illegal alien, right Lou?
I'd say rather than the "left wing" media, it's more just anyone who isn't insane and calls you out for what you're doing, which is feeding the crazies with this birther nonsense, but who am I to quibble? If you want to continue to implode on national television night after night and make an utter fool of yourself, don't let me stop you.
Although Dobbs admits that he thinks the President is a citizen, he still thinks this is a subject worth carrying on about, which Roland Martin does a pretty good job of taking him to task for. He beat back Rep. Ted Poe's nonsense over the validity of what the State of Hawaii has given as proof of Obama's birth as well. I'm actually surprised Martin didn't say something back to hot head Dobbs when he told him he needed to keep his cool. Dobbs has no room to talk about anyone else losing their temper after his nightly rants on illegal immigrants or whatever topic du jour has him baring his teeth in rage.
Roland Martin has it right here. If Dobbs admits there is no question about whether the President is a natural born citizen of the United States, why does he feel the need to keep saying there's a controversy? Dobbs knows full well what he's doing but could care less what the ramifications are.
DOBBS: President Obama promised transparency and openness in his administration. Yet, he's chosen not to release his original birth certificate or a copy of it.
And a number of Americans are asking, why not? The left-wing media has attacked me because I simply asked the question. Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii says it can't release a paper copy of the president's original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago.
That explanation, however, has not satisfied some critic.
Joining me now, Roland Martin. He's CNN contributor, syndicated columnist. And joining us as well, Congressman Ted Poe.
Before we get started, I want to be clear where I stand, because the -- the left-wing media kind of forgot to leave out -- kind of left a few things out. It was inconvenient to their stories.
Just -- just one statement, very quickly, if you will. Play that.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP, JULY 21, 2009)
DOBBS: I think the president of the United States is a citizen. But what I don't understand is why he hasn't just produced it to get this -- this noise out of the way.
I believe Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States, folks. Don't you? But I do have a couple of little questions, like you. Why not just provide a copy of the birth certificate? That's entirely within the president's power.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
DOBBS: Why not? That's the question, Roland Martin. What's the answer?
ROLAND MARTIN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, first and foremost, he's produced the document he received from the state of Hawaii.
Now, you are saying, where's the original? According to the state of Hawaii, that is the document that establishes where he was born. So, what is the issue?
DOBBS: So, you don't think...
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: So, you don't think the president has a copy?
MARTIN: No, but what is the issue?
DOBBS: Well, the issue is...
MARTIN: I mean, he's the president. He's been certified. He's in office.
DOBBS: Well, he's a president. I mean, he's not like a -- I mean, you make it sound like he's been anointed something beyond that.
MARTIN: No, no, he's a president of the United States, the 44th.
DOBBS: Yes. Yes.
MARTIN: So, what -- what is the point? I mean, exactly where is the story in this? If he has presented a document, the state of Hawaii has confirmed that -- that he was indeed born there, what's the issue?
DOBBS: Ted Poe, Congressman, what's the -- what's the issue?
REP. TED POE (R), TEXAS: Well, the president has not produced a birth certificate. He has produced what is a birth announcement from the state of Hawaii.
And this could all be settled if he would just produce the birth certify call. And that's why we have introduced legislation that, in future elections, that the president prove that he is a resident for 14 years, that he's over 35, and that he's a native-born American.
And that applies to everybody, and we get rid of all this controversy, and we move on down the road.
MARTIN: Congressman, it's nonsense.
First of all, you were a state judge in Texas. I was born and raised in Houston. I remember seeing your stories all the time. My dad, when I got him got a passport, he didn't have his original birth certificate. He went to the Houston Department of Health and got a copy of his birth certificate.
It satisfied his passport, satisfied the State Department. So, how can you say that's legitimate; oh, but the president has not presented what the state of Hawaii said is an official document with their seal on it?
POE: Because it is not a birth certificate. It's not even a copy of the birth certificate. It is a birth announcement.
It is like me sending out a birth announcement for one of my children...
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: No. What is in the newspaper is a birth announcement.
(CROSSTALK)
POE: And that's what it is.
MARTIN: That is an official document. What is in the newspaper is a birth announcement, Congressman. Come on.
DOBBS: Let -- let -- if I may interject...
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: ... do we have a -- could we just put up a copy of that certificate -- certificate of live birth?
What you are looking at there, which I believe is the copy that comes from FactCheck.org or Annenberg, there's no reference there to the attending physician. There's no reference there to the hospital in which he was born. It is a certificate that refers to the fact that another certificate exists.
MARTIN: Is it an official state document?
DOBBS: I'm sorry?
MARTIN: Is it an official state document of the state of Hawaii?
DOBBS: Well, let me try this again, so I can be really clear about it. It is a document that says there's another document. It does not include that -- you are referring to your father's birth certificate.
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: A copy of his birth certificate would have the doctor, the hospital that he was born in, correct? And this is the -- and, by the way, this is just what people are concerned about.
MARTIN: No, no, whose people, first of all? You got 13 percent...
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: ... 600,000 people who have signed a petition.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: Six hundred thousand.
Thirteen percent of Americans, 39 million, still think he is Muslim. And we have done everything, Lou, to debunk that as an absolute lie. So, it is irrelevant.
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: OK. If you want to make it irrelevant, that's fine.
POE: Well, I don't know why you are getting so...
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: Yes, go ahead, Congressman.
POE: Well, I don't know why you are getting so upset.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: Because, Congressman, you probably -- because you probably have better things to do, Congressman, than this silly little law here.
(CROSSTALK)
POE: ... certificate for McCain. They were -- your side was...
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: No, no, no, no, Congressman. Congressman, let me correct you with something.
(CROSSTALK)
POE: And, so, he produced his birth certificate...
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: Congressman, I want to...
(CROSSTALK)
POE: ... territories of Arizona.
MARTIN: Congressman, Congressman, nice try.
But, first of all, I voted Republicans and Democrats. So, don't try the "your side."
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: I thought the left-wing people were nuts as well. I just want to correct you on that one.
(CROSSTALK)
POE: Why are you so upset? Produce the birth certificate. That's all you have got to do.
MARTIN: No, no, because it is silly. It is silly.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: It's silly.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: Are you losing sleep over this?
DOBBS: Look, Roland, look, Roland...
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: I mean, Lou, are you losing sleep over this?
DOBBS: Roland, here's what I would like you to do. I would like you to remember, if you would -- and I'm -- and I'm trying to be as nice as I can be, but you are yelling and you're getting awfully excited about something that, you know, doesn't require this level of...
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: Well, I think it is hilarious.
DOBBS: Then laugh. But don't -- please, don't...
MARTIN: But it's utterly hilarious, Lou.
DOBBS: The congressman might take your remarks a different way.
And I'm asking is that you just -- you know, relax just a bit.
And let's take a look at headlines from "The New York Times," if we may, from last year, when at -- at question was Senator John McCain's citizenship, and see if we can see a difference in the way in which they have approached this -- this issue.
This is "The New York Times." "A hint of new life to the McCain birth issue." "McCain's canal zone birth prompts queries about whether that rules him out" -- The New York Times," and, in July of last year, with an article. I mean, it goes on.
The issue of "Justices turn back on a challenge on Obama that has stopped squall of Internet-fueled rumors."
There's an obvious difference in tone here from "The New York Times" when talking about John McCain than there is when they were talking about Barack Obama.
MARTIN: And I don't care about the "New York Times" column. The issue there...
(CROSSTALK) DOBBS: But I do.
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: And that's why I bring it up.
MARTIN: Lou, your issue, though, is about a certificate. It's not about how the media is covering it.
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: No, no. No, no.
MARTIN: So, which one is it?
DOBBS: My -- my issue is this, OK? When this could be dispelled so quickly, and -- and simply by producing it, why not do it?
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: He has produced a document that is satisfactory, but it's not satisfactory to you.
So, Lou, he's not here to satisfy Lou Dobbs. He's the president of the United States. He probably has other things that's on his mind than satisfying Lou Dobbs.
DOBBS: Yes. And does that, then, what, just dismiss the concern?
MARTIN: No. He has presented a document that is legal. In the state of Hawaii, it is legal. It is a document. It's there.
Now, because you're not satisfied, OK. And, Lou, if this...
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: Don't worry about my -- don't worry about my satisfaction.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: No, no.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: Lou, you're the one who is still making this an issue.
(CROSSTALK)
DOBBS: No, no, please. Again, did you hear what I said?
MARTIN: Yes.
DOBBS: I believe he's a citizen.
MARTIN: OK. So, why even continue the story? Is it keeping you up at night? It is a non-issue. It is irrelevant. You say so many Americans care.
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: No, it is an irrelevant issue. It's been established. He's the president.
DOBBS: All right. All right.
MARTIN: What is the big deal?
DOBBS: Is there a big deal here, Congressman Poe?
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Jon Stewart was voted the most trusted news person in the country, and I'll give you one example of why. He showed the Lou Dobbs clip, and then he showed a woman substitute hosting on Dobbs's own show giving all the documentation needed to prove that Obama is a natural citizen. A few days after the substitute host made the case, Dobbs made his statement about "there are still some questions." Well, I guess there are crazy people everywhere who have crazy questions, so in a way he was accurate. Crazy people with inane questions. Jon's the best.
trust in him. Never met him. But he definitely fills a need in the Media.
Since he was on Short Attention Span Theater.
And I feel like I know the guy, I don't of course, but I trust him I guess.
That said, he's not a news man...he's a comedian that does satirical comedy on the news coverage of politics...he's just really good at what he does. And he's really really smart too.
He is the closest thing TV has to a news man though.
You don't have to trust Stewart as a person. What makes the Daily Show unusual is that they show the evidence. You can make of it what you will.
How come the only people who think the media is liberal are people with their panties in a wad about liberals?
they're morans.
and they think that all the networks besides faux noise are liberal.
It is to laugh.
A wad in your panties is better than your panties in a wad.
Definitely. Otherwise, they might roll under the bed and then his wife might find them while cleaning.
The left will definitely continue to point out the liars, like Dobbs, and others that habitually lie and make shit up. Disgusting these lying assholes are continually hired to lie for the fucking Reslug lunatic party.
A number of people are saying that Lou Dobbs is a product of miscegenation. Frankly I won't watch that freak until he produces his birth certificate.
you are not an al-Qaeda operative. I am waiting...I am waiting...I am speed-dialing the DHS...now. Bye, Lou!
from Bin Laden. We won't accept it: he lies like a rug. So, you DO have something in common, don't you.
http://open.salon.com/blog/mortimer_hayden_sm...
It would really be hilarious if something like Mortimer’s article went viral on “liberal” media with reports that, according to “some sources,” rumor has it that the authenticity of Dobbs’ US citizenship is now in question. Each news channel could arrange panels of “experts” to discuss the “problem” and to suggest that Mr. Dobbs show the nation his birth certificate so as to put the matter to rest. If Dobbs refuses, which of course he will, that could be used as further evidence against him. If and when he did finally produce his BC, more media “experts” could step forward to analyze every line, every word and letter, every dot and dash, finally concluding that the document could be, not saying it is mind you, but it could be a forgery! An elderly aunt could be interviewed and then edited so she appeared to say something like, “Oh, it was so long ago, I’m not sure where little Louie was born. His folks went to Mexico a lot.”
Oh, the fun, the fun!
It's the ghost of Patty Hearst at work!!!
The Panthers!!!
I got a great chuckle from "The Panthers!!!"
Bill Cosby has a routine that he did on vinyl (in the old days), talking about how his two little daughters would sometimes get him in trouble. They'd been learning in school that smoking was bad and would kill you. So Bill's out driving with his girls and a guy who's smoking pulls up next to him at a light. And his girls start chanting, "You're gonna die; you're gonna die." The guy looks over at them and says, "Oh my god, Panthers!" and takes off.
Ahhh....race relations in America. We are so fucked up.
WHAT THE FUK IS THE LEFT-WING MEDIA?? THE TROTSKY CHANNEL?
all of the media is left wing if it doesn't spout RNC talking points as objective fact.
please give lou a job @FOX net, so that he can work with those @sshaoles atfox
mysterious, yet omnipotent, "libruul media!" I wanna watch it! But all there is is this corporate neocon garbage on steroids like fox, who herded so far to the right they capsized the boat and are now flapping their arms and screaming at the top of their lungs as they call for a nuclear strike by al-Qaida on our own country and demand execution of our POWs to chinch on legal fees as they drown in The Black Man derangement syndrone madness. That is supposed to make the rest of them liberal? Please.
This issue was brought up during the presidential campaign. It was resolved and the birth certificate and all explanations to these idiotic racist questions can be found on factcheck.org. They didn't ask any white candidates for birth certificates. And why can't they accept the one that the US Government obviously accepted. I think they check that sort of thing for TOP SECRET clearance.
If it's a legitimate question, why is your 'expert' on the subject a loony lady 'lawyer' (she got her degree via correspondence course and HAS NOT passed the bar in the State of California, AFAIK) who also believes that evil forces from nameless clerks in the Supreme Court, the FBI, and anonymous computer hackers (who must be affiliated w/ Obama, since their IP says they're from Washington State, and Obama once visited Washington).
Secondly, what makes you the authority, Lou? I mean, if we handed you the birth certificate right now, and you said 'it's fake,' we'd want to know your credentials and qualifications. If you said 'it's real,' I can assure you that Orly Taitz would accuse you of having sold out to the Obama Conspiracy.
When Dan Rather pushed documents purporting to show irregularities with President Bush's National Guard service, and it was found that he was in error - that he'd been sold a bill of good by a conspiracy nut - he made an on-air retraction and was fired by CBS.
Time to man up, Lou. Put up, shut up, or resign for being a clueless fraud.
what is you don't understand about an official document from Hawaii? What the blogs and MSNBC are talking about is that you're still trying to make a story out of a nonstory.
Even if the documents were fake, their fakeness does not discredit all the other evidence. Otherwise people could get away with murder by discrediting one piece of evidence, like, say a glove that doesn't fit, or ... oh wait
the clown is coming up for renewal and needs to show he is just as sane as glenn beck to please the corpse that is cnn. Louise is terribly worried that Pat Buchanan is going to replace him if he doesn't put the nut on.
I sent him an email letting him know how I felt about his pursuit of this lie to boost his ratings. I figured it would p!$$ him off, and I meant it to. I used no vulgar language, in fact the email focused on whether he would accept responsibility if his foolishness resulted in someone attempting to take the law into their own hands. He probably did not like that. Of course I have not received a response from him, but I didn't expect one.
I sent him one this past weekend. I just sent him another one.
While he says he believes Obama is a citizen, I don't think he said Obama is a "natural born" citizen, which is what these birthers are claiming he isn't.
Further, even if he does believe Obama is a citizen and is the legitimate President, he stresses the birthers' points more than he does that Obama is indeed legitimtate.
I found my birth certificate last night, and it says "Certificate of Live Birth" on it from the State of Illinois.
I've said it once; I'll say it again....send Dobbs to Faux News!
The fact that he doesn't believe his own bullshit but keeps shilling it is the worst fact of all - despicable - depraved.
I used to be a big fan of Lou when the biggest gripe he had was the fact that corporations were sending manufacturing jobs overseas. As a tool and diemaker for over 30 years it hits extremely close to home. But now he just comes off as a racist. Hence my name for him. Really, that's what he should be called from here on out.
You're a friggin' nutcase. Of course they attacked you. Your rants amount to little better than hate speech. Of course they attacked you. Stop whining, you delusional little man, and be grateful you even have a job. If you worked for a news organization that actually had any integrity, you would have been put on the street a long time ago.
Why are you such a prick?
I guess if Lou can draw some attention to himself it doesn't matter how stupid and ridiculous he has to be. Desperate much, Lou?
By Lou's standards, everyone born in Hawaii is an illegal immigrant and should be deported.
All the way BACK to Hawaii by goawd!
It would be nice if someone would "deport" me to Hawaii for a couple of weeks.
Hey Lou! I was born in Georgia but I'm not going to show you my birth certificate. Make me go to Hawaii, please.
I have the equivalent of a COLB. It is accepted by the DMV as proof of my birth for getting a Driver's License.
But, according to the birthers, it's not valid. They'd want to hear from the doctor.
Our family doctor from the time of my birth is dead. So, still no proof. My dad has Alzheimer's, doesn't even remember he has a son, let alone when/where he was born. Still no proof.
Mom? Well, according to the birthers, BOTH parents need to be U.S. citizens for you to be a natural-born citizen. My paternal grandfather wasn't - he was a Chinese national who never made it to the states, and I never knew him. So, by that reasoning, my mother isn't a citizen, and neither am I.
The loop-de-loops of tortured logic the birthers keep dredging up to make their case underscores the inherent racism.
for about a week...
I just missed my nieces first b-day...and my cousin has a car that he wants to give me...
And I just can't get the time to get up there!
Deport me Lou!
I talked with a guy I work with about this....he was a Ron Paul supporter and I knew he believes Obama....excuse me....PRESIDENT Obama....is NOT an American.
I asked what it would take to convince him otherwise since the State of Hawaii documents don't do it, and the 2 separate newspaper announcements of his birth didn't do it....what would it take??
His response was....there is NOTHING that would convince that our sitting president is an American.....he also stated that he is privy to some information that I must not have seen and he would be happy to share it with me that would prove his point. I declined.
Clearly, these people are nutjobs.....choosing to believe that a vast international conspiracy took place 47 years ago JUST IN CASE that little multi-racial baby decided to run for President one day....and nothing will change their minds. Sad isn't it?
Aarrgho writes, "...he also stated that he is privy to some information that I must not have seen and he would be happy to share it with me that would prove his point. I declined."
Oh, why did you decline? I want to know what it is that he knows! Come on, please ask him what it is!
If Obama were a Republican, this wouldnt be an issue.
What anti-birthers need to do it to have the governor of Hawaii, who's a Republican, come on their show and talk about it. She's actually come out and said that Obama's an American citizen born in Hawaii.
Not that that will help. The president could have been a white guy name Whitey McHonkeyface, born in Haystack, Nebraska and there would be some bullshit reason why he shouldnt be president.
Obviously this has less to do with the legitimacy of Obama's presidency than it does with a hatred of Democrats.
What does Huckabee have to do with this?
You know that lady who was yelling on the video "I want my country back ?" Well I wanted to tell her that that's how I felt for 8 years, so suck it up and quit being a poor loser.
I also want to thank her for this year's Halloween costume idea. Last year I was the crazy-McCain rally lady. Instead of "He's an Arab." This year's tag line will be, " He's a Kenyan."
Lou, it is a document that act's as a birth certificate so you don't have to tarnish and pass out your original birth certificate. States than have a hard time finding the originals because it is costly and unnecessary. So as you continue to check off all the right-wing talking points and refuse to debunk this witch hunt, keep attacking the "left wing media" to use this as a way to stir up more hate and racism.
This is standard fare for Dobbs, using race and ethnicity to stir up white pride nationalism to inflate ratings and his ego. His condescension to Martin to "calm down" exemplifies this perfectly. Why get upset Roland? I'm just questioning the fact that out first President who is not White might be an illegal alien. This from a man who spews the most curmudgeonly acerbic venom on a daily basis to anyone who questions his xenophobic tirades. It is the classic, "black man is angry and irrational". But when Dobbs is angry, it's fighting against the tides of stupidity.
From what I see about the Birthers
movementis:1) professional Repubs and their propaganda machines are using the issue in a effort to weaken Obama by saying he's not a "worthy" or a "real" POTUS -- much like they tried blaming the Clintons with the Vince Foster
murdersuicide2) the crazy-wing of the Repub is masking their real gripe -- they hate the fact that a black man got elected President. For these weak-minded conservatives, a black man is not a "real" or a"normal" American citizen
3) Lou Dobbs is a punk.
dobbs ratings have been tanking lately. he has pulled out the stops from the foxnews playbook, with the full cooperation from CNN's producers. this is going on only for the ratings from the rightwing base, which doesnt like CNN anyway....
he needs to move his show over to fox with the new palin 1 hour show coming this fall.....
yep. easy as pie. everybody's happy.
Your family physician might suggest early retirement. I would suggest breaking into Liddy's stash of pills as it would be more fun for me.
It was a joy to behold.
The Week reported it with admirable restraint.
Loud Obbs is a whining dickhead and bully.
The Birthers, of whom Loud Obbs is a prominent supporter, amd 99.999999 percent of whom are white, simply cannot, anymore, in 21Century Murka, just stand on the sidelines shouting "He's a Niqqer!"
That would garner significant social obloquy.
So they haul out this birther shit as a surrogate.
This having been explained, can we please move on to the NEXT iteration of this phenomenon?
ps: Loud, pay attention. They/we are not attacking you. They/we are mocking you, holding you up to ridicule, obloquy and spite. You're a fucking LouDouchebag, Lou.
Awesome.
Lou, what is your background in broadcasting? Do you have any formal education in it? Are you a graduate of the Connecticut School of Broadcasting? Can you produce your degrees? Where are your papers!!!
L&P writes, "Where are your papers!!!"
THAT'S what this reminds me of -- living in a communist or fascist dictatorship, traveling anywhere and having soldiers demand to see your "papers."
Last year, Lou Dobbs was a speaker at a "Values Voters" summit. At that event, vendors were selling a product which was called "Obama Waffles." It depicted a stereotype of a black man, Obama, on the front, with big lips, etc.
Dobbs apparently bought a box and was heard to exclaim, "my wife will love this."
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/6994/
The guy obviously doesn't like Obama, and he's full of it saying that he was only asking a question about the birthers....that idiot supports the birthers!
Sounds suspiciously like Bill-O and Hannity declaring that their words couldn't possibly influence right-wing extremists to act.
is the lazy and pathetic media grasping to fill the 24/7 news cycle with any simplistic story they can find that does not require investigative reporting or complex analysis. This is basically FOX NEWS level stuff that the other cable channels use as filler. The "birthers" are the fringe that cannot accept anyone that is not 100% white. They are the racists, the bigots and most of all, the undereducated angry crowd that is too dumb to understand how they are being manipulated by the right wing nuts. The media's coverage of these people encourages the most extreme elements of the group and the media will certainly bear some responsibility should a real nut case go nuts one day and turn violent. They really need to be discounted and marginalized rather than given attention.
It takes WORK to be 'honest, fair and equitable'.
The media has to understand that if they could park a live truck in Rush Limbaugh's ass, he'd still be bitching about the mainstream media. It's never been about 'fairness' - it's been about changing the playing field so the playground bully defines 'fair'.
Lou Dobbs is an illegal Mexican immigrant.
http://open.salon.com/blog/mortimer_hayden_sm...
That's freaking hilarious!
The "BM" movement! (Birther movement)
Someone ought to send this to Dobbs!
..next Presidential election, we should demand to see the GOP candidate's Birth Certificate just cuz'. I can't wait to hear the howlin'!
A clean bill of health from the VD clinic.
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Lou Dobbs lost his respect and is now a ratings grubbing Faux News clone. Shame on you! I've seen that look on his face before...it's the same as Sessions interviewing Sotomayer.
Dobbs says, "Meanwhile, the state of Hawaii says it can't release a paper copy of the president's original birth certificate because they say the state government discarded the original document when the health department records went electronic some eight years ago."
Then he asks, "Why not just provide a copy of the birth certificate?"
You can see Dobbs is being disingenuous. He is a prick looking for ratings. Nothing more than that.
He a prick on CNN that is taking time away from important issues!
He belongs on FOX.
CNN is just another distorted arm of Faux Noise. I haven't watched it for years because of the lies they tell and spread.
Do you all even have your original birth certificates? I happen to have mine, from California, 1964. But my 13 year old son was sent only a cert. of live birth. I don't even know if CA still gives out the long form birth cert.
Is an original birth cert something everyone is expected to have just laying around?
I applied for my first passport earlier this year, and I submitted my ORIGINAL birth certificate, the same one I've been using for 57 years, I even have the original envelope with cancelled postage, and raised seal notwithstanding, it was unacceptable. I had to go online and get a new one, that has the registration number (which was absent from the 1952 original) just like the one that was redacted from Obama's. This whole nonexistent issue is fodder for the idiocracy
I was born in the District of Columbia in 1961 and do indeed have the original "long form" record of my birth. I thought it was my birth certificate. When I needed to obtain the proper paperwork for a passport, I was informed that the long form was not a valid birth certificate--it was simply the paperwork that had to be filled out in order for the state to issue me a valid birth certificate. When I applied to the District of Columbia for a certified copy, what I received was what looked like a mass-produced certificate from Office Max! But it has the official "state" seal on it, so it is my valid birth certificate.
Damn. And I was going to make a run at POTUS in 2012. Damn you, LOOUUUUUUU!!!!!
[shakes fist impotently at the sky]
I had to get a copy of my BC when I went to work in Europe. I was given a "Certificate of Live Birth." It worked.
Well Lou,
When this particular approach runs its' course maybe you can try the pro-lifer approach and demand proof of fornication within the U. S. A.
If I were you, I would demand that the only proof that will suffice is the parents getting it on in an open field as seen from a satellite camera. Of course, they will have to submit to a close-up to prove he wasn't wearing a condom and have a signed, witnessed, and notarized affadavit (by U. S. citizens who can provide their own means of proof, of course) they were not using any other form of birth control.
... complete with angels shouting, "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!" as a lucky sperm finds its way to the target.
Like other birthers too self centered and bigoted to examine their own delusions, Dobbs expects some errand boy to bring any and all documentation directly to HIM while he sits in his gold plated bathroom straining to push out the next edition of his show.
If there is such a thing as "normal tv"?
Honestly, I think this pudgy turd is keeping this lunacy alive so his ratings don't totally go into the toilet. After all, he'll keep the lunatic right wing tuned in so long as he keeps this idiotic story rolling down the road.
What a butt head!
Well wouldn't our lives be boring if we didn't have breaking news. You nailed it. It's all about ratings. and you don't get good ratings unless you provide some controversy, fabricated or not. Just keep showing people talking over each other, or demonize the successful, or expose some sex scandal. But this is a deliberate way to keep us diverted from the true news, such as the fact that PHARMA spent 9 million in lobbying congress in the last three months. Sound like not a lot? Well, consider that Pfizer, who is part of PHARMA, spent 4 more million of their own in the same period for the same reasons.
And two illegal wars trudge on and on. In Iraq, we have pulled back to bases. Oh yeah? I seem to have heard that line before. Like in 1968.
Hey, LOU! Promo pics of you and that 'birther-bitch' waving each others 'birht-certs' would be great!!!!!
These 'people' are making it real easy to show my grandkids the 'evil' that is the core of the 'conservative' mental-manipulation.
The 'ugliness' of the 'holier-than-thou' bigots that try to keep 'secret' their 'perversions' in the 'C' street Churches of the world, is being s exposed DAILY.
In the spirit of 'To Serve Man' we are finding out that the 'Party of Family Values' would 'sell their wife and kids' because God told them to!
Listening to fat white pigs like Dobbs and Limpballs try to play the 'victims' of 'reverse racism' is the 'light of day' exposing the 'conservative GREED' that has emptied our 'treasuries' into the 'military industrial complex' that the LAST Republican 'worth a damn' warned US about.
But KEEP TALKIN LOU, all the 'makeup' in the world can't hide the 'Family's' admiration of the likes of Pol Pot and Hitler, to the point my grandkids 'get it', no explanation needed....
I for one feel that his Kenyan heritage might make him a better decision maker than another old white guy.
Maybe Barack was born twice? Once in Kenya, then again in Hawaii.
What? You think that's far fetched? George Bush was born again!
You sure you want to imagine babs with her thighs splayed?
Never had to clean vomit off my keyboard before. Until now.
Sorry, I'm confused here, I thought it was Liberals who were supposed to play "victim"...
He takes comfort in saying the "left wing media" while he knows it's just about everyone, including his own work-mates at CNN, including Kitty Pilgrim. And they aren't attacking him, they are pointing out the craziness.
Recent reports indicate that Obama's direction is working. Even (gag) helping Wall Street and the rest. Just get rid of Dobbs and put on some real news. This is the better than what has been happening the last 8 years. But dump the old men. It's time for some real intellect in this country. God Bless America. Get rid of Dobbs!
Superman
BREAKING: Due to a misinterpretation and misapplication of the statute, Hawaii is actually NOT a state because it was never properly ratified into statehood. Therefor Barak Obama is not an American and must step down immediately.
Corrected flags will be available at your local post office.
But by all means keep it up, Lou. Keep talking like a man who likes to eat the shiny stuff in thermometers, making yourself into an irrelevant laughing stock.
We should all keep sending emails, letters and phone calls to CNN to get them to drop Lou like they dropped Glen Beck. Maybe I could watch CNN again, after that.
These people are awesome. It takes an incredible amount of determination to remain this unwaveringly ignorant.
Keep in mind that the right wing crowd that rejects the evidence that Obama is US born are the same people who reject the evidence of evolution in favor of the myth of Creationism- Despite the mountain of evidence in favor of evolution, the right insists there is no proof evolution is real. These right wingers reject evidence on a variety of topics and stick with their own shallow conclusions.
Is it just me or are all (I mean 100%) of the Republican party simply bigots? it seems that way to me. I also have asked for 3 years now to every conservative I have met: What is a conservative value? nobody can give me an answer.
These people are embarrassing, why do we waste valuable news time giving a forum to bigots like Lou Dobbs and his ilk?
Fuck You Lou!!!
sore losers
Lou Dobbs slipped into insanity after President Obama warned people about his show.
Your Network, when Ted Turner first launched it was a great news and information center. Go back and look at the very first broadcasts, when you were once respectable and just reporting FACTS, while the "other" news outlets referred to you as the "Chicken Noodle News" channel. Look at what you have "devolved" into! One more point: Lou Dobbs is a disgrace to your network, and speaking of "disgrace", Nancy Grace follows right behind Lou Dobbs. Lou's ignorance and vile towards our President, with his coverage of "nutjobs" claiming that our President was not born in the USA, are repugnant, insidious...and border on treason. I used to enjoy Lou...but he has entered into the "lunatic fringe" element...and that does not bode well for good journalism.
Thank you.
Spot on, Donaldinks.
It's not the quote-unquote Left Wing media that takes offense, it's those of us with IQ's above room temperature who like to see NEWS on channels that claim the banner,"News Network".
If he's convinced Obama is a citizen,then demanding further documentation will serve what purpose?
This is all about keeping a whiff of uncertainty surrounding the office of the president and further undermining peoples confidence in him.If we don't know for sure if he's an American,well then what else do we not know about this man?
It's reprehensible.
Lou Dobbs is an illegal alien. I read it on the internet. I want to see his passport.
Louis Dobbs was born in Delicias, Chihuahua-- MEXICO-- and was later smuggled into the United States by Texas Propane Salesman Frank Dobbs, who kept the truth of his son's south-of-the-border origins a secret, even from little Lou himself, who only learned about his Mexican birth in adolescence, and who would spend the rest of his adult life desperately trying to cover up the truth.
Lou Dobbs is indeed a disgrace to journalism, a hack, and a complete fool for giving a stage to this birther nonsense. There is no validity in their questioning, and their constant questioning just shows how pathetic and completely racist these birthers are. If Barack Obama was named John Steele and had a different color of skin, there would be no discussion regarding him being a natural born citizen.
A sample Q &A between a birther (B) and a sane person (SP):
And, folks these answers should lay to rest this subject. However, the truth is birthers won't believe any fact or valid document that is shown to them. You could have god come down from heaven above with a flock of doves and decree that President Obama is indeed a natural born citizen of the USA, and these people would still not believe it. So, really there is no point in having a civilised discussion with them because if you do start a discussion to try to enlighten them you will be drawn into their pit of circular logic hell.
If these loons can be on national television, then I'm wanting to see some 9/11 truthers on air just to be fair.
The 9/11 truthers would be refreshing change from the racist republicanzi crowd. Has the MSM no taste? Must it be all fascism all the time?
the way you do it is get the birthers and teabaggers behind some crazy Obama 9/11 story.
LouLou really does need to go over and join his brethren at the Ailes network.. he is SUCH a limberger-esk asshat...
Since the pres of CNN came and basically told LouLou and his staff to STFU today this may settle down a bit but he still needs to move...He'd be a great copy boy for hannratty.....
the pres of CNN came and basically told LouLou and his staff to STFU today
Cool! how did you learn this?
Oh, there's a story on it now at HP...
You know MSM, hosting republican liar$, deceiver$, racist$, cheat$ and bandit$ does have long term consequences.
Aren't these the same folk who want to get rid of the native or natural born proviso in the Constitution so Schwarzenegger could run for president?
Who's dobbs trying to convince?
Liberals won't like being attacked by his diatribe, especially if they disagree that their concern such bs is covered is an "attack."
And conservatives will disagree with his assessment that CNN by unspoken default isn't a liberal bastion, as per their narrow world-view.
Lou Dobbs has a vendetta on President Obama. He does not hide it. He is full of rage.
Dobbs is ratcheting this up as we speak, even after Obama's gesture to have a beer and the officer has accepted the invitation along with the Doctor. why? Because he can't rage about birth certificates! - His boss muzzled him. Yet he rages on.
Lou dobbs is a bloviating billboard for Lou dobbs, for lou Dobbs radio, and for his personal vendetta. Eveything else is secondary, including CNN, and the welfare of the nation.
if you notice lou does not have all of the air time that he used to have.don't be surprised if he is not on cnn at all
Hit them where it hurts. Why is this racist allowed to work at CNN?
thats a good question for their board of directors
Poster-child for WATB.
I sure don't give a flying f*ck about this. Try being a newsman, not a rumor monger to boost your pathetic show.
Dobbs: But what about his citizenship?
anyone: Here's his birth certificate.
Dobbs: But what about his citizenship?
anyone: Lou, look at this...
Dobbs: Bt what about his citizenship?
anyone: Yo Lou, over here... Check it out.
Dobbs: Bt what about his citizenship?
anyone: See, born in Hawaii, right here...US citizen, see?
Dobbs: But what about his citizenship?
anyone: ...cranky old butthole...
etc...
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