John Boehner's Turn: Another Republican Repeating Frank Luntz's Talking Points Unchallenged
By Heather Wednesday Jun 17, 2009 5:00pm
This time it's Wolf Blitzer's turn to allow John Boehner to rattle off those Frank Luntz talking points without calling him out for it. These guys always seem to overlook a few simple points. One, just what everyone who has insurance is paying in premiums and just how high that cost is right now. And two, the bureaucrat between patients and their doctors exists already, and it's called the insurance company.
And third, when is one of these "news" men or women going to ask a member of Congress why they're unhappy with their current health care coverage?
BLITZER: Let's talk about some of the domestic priorities under way right now. The president wants health care reform, delivered a big speech on it yesterday. And, in that speech, he said this:
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: So, when you hear the naysayers claim that I'm trying to bring about government-run health care, know this: They're not telling the truth.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLITZER: Are you among those naysayers who are suggesting he wants to bring about government-run health care?
BOEHNER: Well, I think the president is ignoring reality.
The Congressional Budget Office came out with a score on Senator Kennedy's bill, just part of the score -- of the -- of his bill, that says that the public option would cost over $1 trillion, and would cause 23 million Americans to lose their private health care coverage, and only 16 million of which would -- would be covered under the -- the government plan.
And, so, it's not just me and others. It's -- it's very clear that the so-called public option would be subsidized by the government. It would draw people out of the private sector. It would cause companies to just give up their coverage and force people into a government-run plan.
BLITZER: I know you don't...
(CROSSTALK)
BOEHNER: That's not what we -- that's not what we want.
What we want is, we want to work with the president to make sure that all Americans have access to high-quality, affordable health insurance.
BLITZER: I know you don't want a government-run health insurance plan. You want a private-run plan.
What about this proposal, this compromise, in between? Kent Conrad, the Democratic senator, suggesting co-ops, where you -- you band together hundreds of thousands of people, and you create a co-op that's not government run. It's privately run. But it -- but it would potentially do the same thing.
BOEHNER: You know, I think it's worth exploring.
I haven't seen how this would work and what the rules would be. But, clearly, it's an idea that might be able to bridge the differences. But, at the end of the day, we want to make sure that doctors and patients are making decisions about what care is in their best interest, not some government bureaucrat in between.
And, so, if there are ideas out there that will help promote a competitive health insurance system in America that provides access to all Americans to high-quality health insurance, I'm for it.
BLITZER: Congressman, thanks very much for coming in.
BOEHNER: Thanks, Wolf.
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But it's ok for some mofo for-profit insurer to make decisions about what care is in the best interest of the patient, often overriding the physician. Thanks for clearing that up Dick. Or whatever your name is. Because whatever it is, you are, first and foremost, a dick.
Regardless the political issue the ReThuglicans ALWAYS have a knack for accusing the opposition for EXACTLY what they themselves are doing.
Kerry was the coward, GW the noble warrior ..
Gummint Health Care's gonna put a bureaucrat between you and your doctor - unlike the way it is now (*cough*)(*cough*)
insurance?
Look, these people would barbecue their own mothers if they thought it would keep them on the gravy train. Corporations pay their (extravagant) bills; we just vote them in.
Or does he always look hammered?
Yes, he always looks hammered but at least he's tanned! :)
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::: oh yes, I forgot this is hurricane season in tropical Ohio :::
/snark off
Orangeman must be drinking some of that bronzer.
I am waiting to see him bursting through a wall and yell "Oh, YEAH!!!!" one of these days.
OK, even as dark as my mood is over this whole health care thing and how Obama has booted it, I have to admit that this image made me laugh. ; )
thank you. that was pretty funny
All these Reslug Assholes are always interviewed by more Dick-Head Reslugs, so you will never get any truth, just lies and bullshit.
BLITZER: Congressman, thanks very much for coming in. (
Translation: Yip! Yip! (picture a yappy bug-eyed dog running in circles & peeing in excitement).
BOEHNER: Thanks, Wolf. No, don't lick my face! Ug, stop humping my leg! OUCH!
Subsidized by the goverment?
Who in the hell does he think PAYS for government?
WE ALL DO!!!
Seems like we get the biggest bang for our buck if we pool together.
What we should stop subsidizing is the health care of asschunks like him that have what he refuses to give us.
Check it out!
(MSNBC, from YouTube):
Katrina Vanden Heuvel PWNS Congressman Eric Cantor!
Look we lost on health care reform and everything else
If everyone who keeps saying "Single Payer is politically infeasible" would STOP SAYING "Single Payer is politically infeasible" then Single Payer would be POLITICALLY FEASIBLE.
It's all the people saying "oh it will never happen" who ENSURE that it will never happen ..
That's right, surrender BEFORE the battle.
Sheesh ..
If you want to give up and roll over that's fine. Why try to urge it on everyone else?
did Katrina even have a minute? Talk about controlling the message.
Born with a face that only
his mothermy boot could love...How much time does this POS practice saying "Democrat ________" instead of "Democratic __________" every week IFO the mirror? And is the POS on the taxpayer clock while he does it?
Did he have a little cry?
"I... I just... I'm so worried about the insurance companiessss-a-BLOO HOO HOO HOO, a-bluu hu hu hu"
As opposed to an insurance company Pulling Your Insurance Coverage because you are sick??? Why doesn't the Dems point this out over and over like these wacky Repubs pull the "government making your health care decisions for you" out of their asses every day?
... they keep on insisting they are bringing "news items" but I keep on getting "public relations releases"
Maybe my cable box is broken? Anyone having the same issues, maybe a class action lawsuit?
Wolf? More like a Lamb led to the slaughter by GOP talking points.
and tell them we found their mascot http://obsessedwithsports.files.wordpress.com...
I wonder when Orangeman will weep for healthcare for Americans the way he weeped for an oil war for Exxon/Mobil and Halliburton? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGoYOSomKLw
has a republican on virtually every day to criticize the president without meaningful challenge.
He's not a Wolf, he's a Toady.
if we're going with labels,how about "right wing Zionist"?
on his over-sized ego...
Obama has backpedaled, waffled, reneged and broken so many campaign promises since being sworn in you'd think Wolf would be able to find plenty of Democrats willing to criticize the president without having to go to Orangeman,
the Pukes wouldn't be paying him untold millions to write them, would they?
... and was pursuing a film career in Santa Monica?
No, I am not making that sh*t up...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/29/opi...
I did not know that the porn industry was doing so well that they could afford to move their operations from their Pacoima warehouses to where many of their (gay) actors currently reside. Good for them...
We would listen to you a "government bureaucrat", bought and paid for by "big insurance/pharma business" on this issue...for what crazy reason?
we expect better from certainly not news?
CNN needs a new cast for the 'opposition'. Preferably not republicans but one thing is certain - the Bush and Cheney apologists just have to go now. Remember that song "time for me to go now"? That's what all the bush pundits need to be singing now.
Note to the entire Republican cast on cable TV - If you supported Bush and Cheney you get a big FAIL in politics, so go find a new job you're more suited to, and enjoy life.
"But, at the end of the day, we want to make sure that doctors and patients are making decisions about what care is in their best interest, not some government bureaucrat in between."
How incredibly stupid is it possible to be? Even my 9 year old would easily spot the lack of common sense in this argument.
http://www.farleftside.com/2009/6-17-09.html
Don't see many cartoons featuring Boehner.
That is funny. Thanks, privatehand!
Looks like it.
He too seems to be fully in the pocket of big business.
Too bad Democrats and progressives aren't giving him the hard time he deserves on the issues.
Remember, Clinton laid the final foundation for the corporate takeover before Bushco came into power. Imagine what will come after Obama once he has kept all the antidemocratic measures in place, and might even create some new ones.
The GOP and the corporate propaganda is pushing hard against what they claim to be an extreme position (government provided health care). Meanwhile, Democrats are split between being corporatists and doing the bidding of the coporate interests they are in the pocket of, or alternatively running scared away from the position that the right-wing propaganda tries to paint them as while whimpering "no, no, look, I'll be a good lapdog and go for something in between. I promise you, I'm not some kind of left-wing, government-hugging extremist!"
Republicans playing hardball all the way, and Dems caving and giving up their position even before negotiations start.
Either Democrats don't know how to negotiate or they are doing exactly what they are supposed to and simply playing the usual game of pretending they are up against overwhelming odds from the right wing, despite their party owning the government. On paper.
Sad to say, but your country is f***ed unless people take it back. Obama seems to be a daily disappointment. Campaign finance reform seems to be the major issue that would adress the root of the problem. Without it, all I can see is: Corrupt. Corrupt. Corrupt. Corrupt. Corrupt. Corrupt.
getting a Boner on C&L?
coefficient of friction similar to that of Astroglide and I've got a decent porn vid going...
The MSM is not lazy by accident. These SOB's make huge gobs of money reading the daily propaganda prompter from corporate headquarters, and they are not about to knock over the apple cart for our benefit.
Any high school kid giving a presentation would flunk for selling this kind of blantantly false bullshit. Yet, our so called journalists just sit there and listen to the birds chirp in their heads as the GOP psycho's spew their fountain of lies and shit.
I wonder how much longer people are going to put up with this bullshit? Because the way things are going with Obama, the country may very well re-elect GOP morons like Boehner to finish off the country.
Mr. President, put down the Bill Clinton guide to governing, and start reading FDR's approach to government. If you don't, it will
completely come apart at the seams, and I hate to think of the consequences.
Here is a list of elected people taking payoffs to cheat the American people and the amounts of bribes being taken. This is just from health care and insurance.
It is mind boggling to think how much these people are taking from others!
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $4,026,933)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $2,833,731)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $2,758,468)
And when you just go right to Big Insurance, the non-presidential candidates who got the biggest legalized bribes were the 7 senators who have been tasked with the job of killing single-payer:
Ben Nelson (DLC-NE- $1,196,799)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $1,184,113)
Joe Lieberman (DLC- CT- $1,036,302)
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $1,035,530)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY- $981,400)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $929,207)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA- $884,724)
We need to investigate and prosecute these criminals now. Severe jail terms are in order for these criminals!
I have not seen how much boner is being paid.
But I would bet he comes cheap compaired to the rest.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Do Eric Cantor, John Boehner, and Mitch McConnell understand that THEY have a publicly funded heath care plan? Why isn't their health care plan "socialized medicine"? CUT-OFF HEALTH CARE IMMEDIATELY FOR ALL MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. They MUST then develop a publicly funded plan that they MUST use. I guarantee you that a plan will be developed within 60 days AND I guarantee you that it will be a GOOD plan. Right now, these people have no incentive to fix the mess. It would be fun to see how Cantor and Boehner interact with the friendly folks at UHC to get their COBRA going.
Silly peon, you are not one of them. You must purchase (if you can) the private, lousy, overpriced suck-ass insurance their company's offer.
How do you expect them to remain filthy rich if you cancel their corporate welfare? And besides, if you were to get government insurance, why....that would be "socialism," which we all know is the first cousin of "terrorism."
If Boner...ehhhh Boehner doesn't want government run health care why is he enrolled in the congressional health care system. All his health care is paid for by the government.
"Never mind that Blue Cross Blue Shield executive standing behind the curtain. I am the great and mighty John Boehner".
" It would cause companies to just give up their coverage and force people into a government-run plan. "
Kind of like the sweeeeeeeet health care YOU get from the government right?????
...if his plan covers tanning beds? Somebody ought to look at the books and see if he abusing his health coverage.
The Beard was never, EVER going to call The Weeping Boner on his bullshit. Volf Bleetzah(!!!) is a well paid, well dressed teevee hack and nothing more.
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