Morning Joe Oct. 22, 2009- Joe Scarborough and Lawrence O'Donnell get into it over Cheney's remarks that President Obama is "dithering" in Afghanistan and on the WMD argument for invading Iraq.
Joe Scarborough defends Cheney's remarks and is still carrying water for the Bush administration on the WMD lies. Lawrence O'Donnell calls him out for it and Scarborough resorts to personal attacks and calls O'Donnell "crazy" and says that he has "a back pile of appliances" that he's "trying to sell in the five boroughs". It got pretty heated before the segment finally ended with Scarborough getting one last dig in on O'Donnell at the very end telling him to "go sell" his "appliances".
Scarborough was out in California where it was about 4:30 in the morning. Anyone else think he stayed up too late the night before this airing?
there's a dead girl in your office.
is Cheney going to help you eat her remains?
O'Donnell. I cannot stand this smug smarmy asshole Scarborough.I appreciate that GE at least tries to actually be fair and balanced, but I cannot watch his show.
He has a show on MSNBC, which is majority owned by GE. Sounds like more right wing projection to me.
Say anything any time and their always wrap the flag and patriotism around their a... while spilling their hate , lies and BS..
Medford, Mass.: Exactly how is it that our sitting Vice President can get away with saying basically that people who exercised their constitutional right to vote for change (ie: Conn. primary) are helping terrorists? How is this not the headline of a story, instead of a footnote?
http://busharchive.froomkin.com/BL20060814005...
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Scarborough is an idiot and anyone worth their salt shouldn't even go on his show.
country is now functionally illiterate.
Uh it's a song my mom used to play it on the stereo a lot. It
's about parsley and stuff.
Are you going on Scarborough's show?
Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity crow.
Who killed that girl, I'm sure you don't know
Is it me, or is Mika just slow?
But he seems more like a smarmy 4th grader. He's always devoid of a real argument and just relies on sarcastic insults.
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i24scarb...
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believe! That should tell you how insane these people really are.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
Cheney tells Obama to stop ‘dithering’
Some stuff you can't make up!
Joe is obviously hungover. He must enjoy those trips away from home!
Even Mika seemed dismayed and the rest of the panel was silent.
Kudos to Lawrence O'Donnell for a great smackdown!
with his wee beady eyes!!
...that he meant "boroughs", not "burrows". That being said, kudos to O'Donnell for the smack-down.
(Sorry, Heather.) And Scabbucket, with that hangover, looks like he just crawled up from a burrow...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
thanks.
because I already know most of the answers.
become a Sunday Shows Bobblehead.
I know all the answers. I just don't know the questions.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
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'nuff said
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Five Stars for that one.
What the hell do appliances have to do with anything? Is Lawrence a Maytag salesman or toaster fetishist in his spare time?
appliance manufacturing firms. From China.
Yeah, he did...but then, the NeoCon KoolAide was flowing pretty freely at Dickie Cheney's post-awards party. Looks like Joey had a few too many glasses...
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green
Freedom Ain't Free - Pay Your Share
in San Diego again, give me a call. I've got a good speed connection in Fallbrook I can hook ya up with...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That is nothing compared to what happened on Hardball last night. While discussing Dick Cheney on Hardball last night, Frank Gaffney told Ron Reagan Jr. that "your father would be ashamed of you." You have to see this exchange.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=3239
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
unless Reagan picked him up and body slammed him onto the floor whats the use?
and it was promoted here this morning. I don't know what the hell Scar was talking about either. He sounded like he was half out of his head that morning.
Drugs will do that sometimes.
form their own government. (Again)
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Joe obviously has gotten a deal from FOX, but can't get out of his MSNBC contract. So, the strategy is obviously to try and get fired.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
he no doubt understands that.
This morning, I caught him defending Cheney when Mika actually stood up to him and said he should do an interview, when Joke said he has and she asked where, he said Fox. She rolled her eyes and said "well then". He got all over her saying "What Fox isn't a real news channel?". She ignored him at that point. This guy is a disrespectful punk to anyone who disagrees with him. Bet he still hasn't gotten over the smackdown Rachel Maddow laid on him last year. Why O'Donnell keeps showing up to humor him is beyond me.
I'm glad Lawrence shows up. He's a much stronger advocate for our positions than you would see on that show otherwise. Joe's corny one are pretty useless against Lawrence.
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CheneyBush administration completely ignored Afghanistan for the last 5 years I don't see how Dick's opinion is worth taking note of.Scarborough's assertion that all senior dems believed that saddam had WMD's somehow absolves the Cheney administration from all the horrible decisions made based on that mistaken assumption.
Joe also avoided acknowledging that the senior Democrats were led to believe in the Iraqi WMD threat because of Intel fed to them by the Bush admin.Scar also mentions the NY Times articles as further "proof" of his theory as if the Times(and every other "Liberal" publication) didn't actually cheer on the war effort from start to finish.Yeah that's quite a convincing argument Joey
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Wasn't there a story about this? Scarborough has NOTHING.
to mention that the articles in the NY Times were being written by Judith Miller, who was being given her information directly from Scooter Libby, Cheney's Chief of Staff.
So, in Joe's brain, it is perfectly understandable that Cheney held the belief that Iraq had WMD's because the NYT said so -- even though it was Cheney himself that was feeding the NYT via his Chief of Staff.
Slime. All of them.
a deliberate lie to justify invading Iraq. If they all "believed" that, they're all stupid. Or, they are all lying. Pick one, fellows.
Funny when Republicans cannot win an argument on facts they always get personal. It is also funny that Scarborough accuses O'Donnell of getting personal on Cheney (which he was not) when he himself was getting very personal on O'Donnell just a few second earlier... always a hypocrite these Republicans...
If Dubya had said Iraq strategy couldn't be presently discussed, it was a bold and shrewd hand out of view.
BUT
If Obama doesn't discuss Afghanistan strategy to the pleasure of X-VP Cheney then Obama is afraid and unable to make a decision.
Right.
joe is a buffoon--and he destroys his own credibility without anyone else's input. so, o'donnell is an idiotic enabler for going on his show. the world would be a better place if the entire cast of this clip were removed from the airwaves.
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I'd like to be a door-to-door malthusianism device salesman:
http://www.unwind.com/jokes-funnies/sexjokes2...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4861-fr...
So bevare if you're wife is talking to life insurance salesmen.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
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Joe has always had a stiffy for a good D!ck.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
Not often you come across a straight man who loves Dick.
I know a LOT of them.
;)
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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Of course BushCo never "DITHERED" the last seven years of their eight year tenure, YES?
What with all the spying, lying, torture and treason. There was no time left to "DITHER" on Afghanistan. This is why BushCo left it to the Generals on the ground.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
Here's the bottom line Joe, none of those folks you mentioned started the war. Your guy Dick and George did and they own it. It was their lies, their decision, their war and 5,000 and countless civilians are dead because of it but hey, Dick Cheney's Halliburton stock went through the roof so the cherry picking was all worth if for some.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_sto...
I think the term is war profiteer? Is that not a crime in and of itself? I'm sure Joe has a good excuse for Dick over that too.
.... the vote was to give the authority to go to war not to actually go to war, and that was suppossed to be after UN sent in weapons inspectors, if I remember correctly.
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"You go to war with the army you have..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jPgljRvzQw
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
whaaa???
does joe think he has an inside scoop on something? ... does he?
Scarborough is one of the dumbest, lamest, most twisted bobble heads on the freaking tv. It's way past time for him to go.
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Retired General calls Cheney ‘incompetent war fighter’
By Kathleen Miller
Friday, October 23rd, 2009
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/general-calls-che...
Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
Cheney is a lying piece of shit. Do you remember when Cheney said going into Iraq would be a quagmire? And do not forget that it was Cheney who took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan when he DID go into Iraq for no good reason. When he took his eye off the ball the Taliban got stronger and then Cheney/Bush left the nightmare for Obama to clean up. Now Cheney has the nerve to tell Obama what to do? The hubris is unbelievable.
And to hell with Joe Scarborough.
"Oil revenues will pay for the "war""?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
if you believe it's true?
Joe Scarborough is douchebag.
It must be true, because I believe it.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
It's funny you mention the word "quagmire" because after hearing Cheney's under handed "speech" the other day the first thing that sprang to mind was Family Guy's Quagmire going "Aren't I just the worst?" which would sound just dandy coming out of Dick's lying yap.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Every right wingnut watching TV in this timeslot is watching Fox and Friends. MSNBC makes its mostly liberal and middle of the road audience listen to this crap every morning. I finally gave up msnbc at this time and went to CNN and C-Span.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9McapjKyFnk
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
....can't stomach THE JOKE anymore. I wish he'd just fade away.
dandy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veyPHzxNjog
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
we hung Germans from the neck until dead, not for genocide but for invading Poland based on forged documents, lies and the use of domestic propaganda.
The sell appliances dig is pretty weak. Not in the least bit witty. If that's the best he can do, he might as well give up. Or better yet, stop carrying water for the epic fail that was the bush/cheney administration.
Doesn't Dick's speech prove what Seymor Hersh is claiming that the pentagon hates Obama and they are out to make Obama look like a fool and fail? I hope someone starts connecting all the dots.
do we do about it all? Bitch? This may be an example of too little, too late. This started with Nixon, and was firmly cemented in place by Bush Co. They're laughing at us. Talk is cheap, and they think that's all we have. Are they right about this? Stop giving money to corporations. Stop using credit cards. Pay cash or barter. The higher unemployment gets, the less tax money is available. Stop buying anything from China. Don't put your money in banks. All the want from us is money and complicity. Don't give it to them. Force their hand.
Ahmed Chalabi
I don't get the "selling appliances" comment.
Is it because GE owns MSNBC and is therefore McDonnels boss?
Aren't they also Scabourough's boss?
I don't get it.
In NY, there used to be an electronics store called "Crazy Eddie". I believe when Moran Joe refers to Lawrence as Crazy Larry, it's a reference to Crazy Eddie.
Kind of an obscure reference if you do not live in NY, but consider the source.
LOL wow, I wonder if Joe really thinks that is some type of 'gotcha' attack... I'm sure 99.99% of the people that would see this will have no idea WTF he's even talking about.
I really don't understand that either. Is O'Donnell supposed to be untrustworthy because he can't "sell appliances"? What the fuck does that even mean, and what does it have to do with anything at all?
.... for never criticizing the Bush Administration. (Testicles in the closet for 8 years or something like that)
And something Larry missed. The head of the CIA was just giving his bosses the info that he knew they wanted.
And did he not get a Presidential Medal of Honor for that?
Always want their turn to talk, but always interrupt others, always goes with personal attacks, then complain about being attacked in kind (even when they aren't. Especially when they aren't).
Joe: you are an ass, you suck, and you supersuck.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
... vid on Hardball? These conservatives are really getting desperate.
Also, I just read that Caribou Barbie is supporting a candidate that is not a Republican, he is a Conservative. WTF, I did not even know there was a Conservative party that was not the GOP.
Will this be the new party for the bitter-baggers?
LOL at Caribou Barbie. The cons are cannibalizing themselves with the third party candidate in that race. The conservative party candidate is only helping the Democratic candidate.
.... that a General, during his administration, said we needed 1/2 million troops in Iraq and he was removed from his post.
Joe's influence on his own show is toxic. Mika seems so frazzled and skittish she can barely function. I think he terrorizes her. He's just a boor and an a-hole. PLEASE, MSNBC, LOSE HIM NOW!
And what the hell was he talking about "appliances" in the "five boroughs" for? What's that supposed to mean?
Joe has a thing about 'appliances' i guess. He is pretty mixed up after all.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
"appliances."
Morning Joe is slowly learning stuff but he's still mostly an angry pervert. It would take years of therapy to straighten Joe out.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I think Cheney and Rummy and Tenet were so sure of finding the smoking gun because the plan was to plant the evidence. Pure speculation, but what if the operation to plant the WMD was tripped up in a sandstorm, friendly-fired during the chaos of the initial invasion. An alleged letter from a serviceman on a secret hauling mission that I read years ago is what planted the seed of this belief. The letter could be bullshit. What if the lynchpin of the war's justification was fumbled, foiled by fate? Circumstance can trump arrogance. The best laid plans of the worst intention sometimes go awry.
The people know Dick Cheney orchestrated the war based on lies. How sick are you of these right wing liars and how bad do you want to punch Joe Scarborough in the nose? This is the same bull crap lies and insanity we had to stomach for 8 years from these co-criminal talk show morons that continue to defend war crimes ... Scarborough is so angry and pathetic he could not stop talking over the guy ... and then the name calling .... Scarborough is a coward ...
He even resorted to using that age old tactic employed by 12 year olds everywhere - his utterance of "whatever..." His tactics are typically pretty junior high schoolish. His show isn't half bad when he's not on it.
Defending the indefensible always leaves you with egg on your face and mouths full of vomit for the viewers.
Really ? Scarborough? Really?
Who is the crazy one and who is the one desperately selling their old inventory of lies and distortions shouting over the competition like an a appliance salesman from the five boroughs.
Clearly Scarborough's distress is evident that his proclamations are being challenged ... What stands out is his need to appear shameless and justified by attempting to shame O'Donnell who holds his ground calmly and rationally.
Having run around naked lusting after power and abusing and killing all rational dissent as crazy and dangerous Scarborough must repeat the same lies and distortions he whole heartedly signed onto while it was acceptable to do so. With this exchange Scarborough exposes himself for the shameless distortions he has been all along and proves he need therapy to overcome his deep seated feelings of shame and abuse he likely suffered in childhood..
Congress shortly after getting elected. Something doesn't add up/ smell right about this guy.
For a guy who resigned "to spend more time with my family"
He seems to have spent a lot of time in midtown Manhattan studios after resigning.
Google 'Lori Klausutis' if you don't know the story.
1. Don't they work for the same network?
2. Is Scar saying that GE has a liberal agenda? How does he make that leap?
Louisville Lawyer
to the bunny ranch
for another interview, of course
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