Harold Ford Jr. Calls Newt Gingrich a 'Serious Thinker'
On this Sunday's Meet the Press in which the panel segment looked like a version of Morning Joe redux, their favorite ConservaDem Harold Ford Jr. (D-Wall Street) was asked about Newt Gingrich's rise in the polls and whether he can manage to stay there or not after we've seen so many other candidates rise and fall as the potential alternative to Mitt Romney.
Ford goes on to describe Newt Gingrich as a "a serious thinker, he's a presenter in a very serious way" who has "been able to connect with conservative voters in ways that the others have not." Later in the segment, Ford actually goes on to explain some of why Gingrich should not be taken seriously as a candidate and that he's really good at just throwing red meat to the base with rhetoric that's long on flame throwing and too often short on facts. Ford also ignored the fact that Gingrich is a scam artist who's been ripping people off with his direct mail scheme and that he has no organization on the ground in most states.
A more honest assessment of why so many voters take Gingrich seriously was given by Paul Krugman a couple of weeks ago when he said this:
"It was his time," Krugman explained. "The Republican base does not want Romney and they keep on looking for an alternative. And Newt, although -- somebody said, 'He's a stupid man's idea of what a smart person sounds like.' But he is more plausible than the other guys they've been pushing up."
Transcript below the fold.
MR. GREGORY: Harold Ford, let's look at what's happening in Iowa. Here's our new polling, and we'll put it up on the screen. This is with Herman Cain still in the race. We then did it a second time by asking Cain supporters who their second choice would be, and then you could see how it gets redistributed. Gingrich up 2, Romney up 1, Paul up 2, Perry up 1, Bachmann up 2. So it's kind of all over the place, even though an endorsement, you would think, would go to Gingrich at this point.
FMR. REP. HAROLD FORD JR. (D-TN): All indications suggest that. You know, Gingrich has, to Mark's point, it's interesting how with the help of the endorsement last week, how he has emerged, not only as, as the, the, perhaps, the alternative to Romney, but as a very serious voice. If you think about those who've emerged in the past, Perry, Bachmann, Donald Trump and others, they're serious people in some ways, but they were not serious candidates. Gingrich, whether you like him or not, whether you disagree with him or not, and I disagree with him on most things or a lot of things, he's a serious thinker, he's a presenter in a very serious way, and he's been able to connect with conservative voters in ways that the others have not. If you're in a Mitt Romney campaign this morning, you have to be far more concerned than you've ever been about a candidate who might be able to at least substantively to stay around. The argument is that he may implode. I served with him in Congress, he certainly has a propensity to talk about himself in grandiose ways. It would be interesting to see how he conducts himself over the next 30 days...
MR. GREGORY: Right.
FMR. REP. FORD JR.: ...because this race happens, the first race is in 30 days now.
MR. GREGORY: Well, speaking of Newt Gingrich, that lack of discipline that he's talked about, the major moment this week is this theme of the good Newt vs. the bad Newt. The bad Newt is on display, some suggest, when there is arrogance, when there's sort of, you know, a lack of discipline in putting out ideas about kids and child labor laws. This is what he told ABC about his prospects.
(Videotape, Thursday)
FMR. REP. GINGRICH: I want to be the nominee. I mean, it's very hard not to look at the recent polls and think that the odds are very high I'm going to be the nominee.
(End videotape)
MR. GREGORY: Good Newt or bad Newt?
MR. HALPERIN: That would be bad Newt. He's, he is, he is unusual. He's a unique in American politics in the last 40 years. There's no one in either party who has been as around as long, both a very prominent figure, but also a grassroots organizer. And he--if this were going to be a six month campaign, if Newt had risen six months ago, I think the Romney people could be confident that, over time, those grandiose statements would catch up to him. I think a lot of people in the party now, they want a figure like Churchill. They want a big person who talks in bold ways to take on Barack Obama. I think the grandiose stuff gets laughed at in this city, but may actually help him in the next 30 days.
FMR. REP. FORD JR.: (Unintelligible)...himself to people. I mean, one of the advantages that he has that I think sometimes there are people in the country that don't really understand the magnitude and the monumental nature and stature of Churchill and Kennan and some of the others he compares himself to, so he gets away with it. The question though is whether he implodes on other fronts. I think the points he made about children and the points he's made in the past about the, the, the African-Americans and their role in our country and whether or not Obama fits some anti-colonial Kenyan model, those are the kinds of points I think, at the end of the day, serious people, and particularly independents, you know, are going to begin to ask, is he the kind of person we want negotiating with--our exit from Iraq? Is he the kind of leader we want representing us in rooms with Chinese business leaders? Is he the kind of leader we want in a room dealing with Russia? I think those are questions that ultimately Obama will raise.



has also been praising Gingrich.
If anything good can come of this, it's that it will finally wake people up to the fact that we have a single-party system. But I'm not holding my breath.
way to go, Big Dog.
me-oww!
If Bill wants to play the good cop so be it.Obama needs to be the bad cop on this one anyway, or Gingrich will control the conversation, whether he knows what he is talking about or not.It's what he does.
I guarantee that this asshole does not believe the bullshit he spouts.
Ford, Cain, Juan Williams, Steele, Blackwell, Amy Holmes, etc.
Uncle toms gotta feed their families too.
But you are spot on.A truly embarrassing way to make a living.
Once again, Paul Krugman is right.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/paul-krugman-newt-...
was the title of my post, this morning, about Newt, here.
Women and giraffes. What is the problem with Newt's association of the two?
Harold, I'm sure you're angling for a role in Newt's administration, but if I were you, I wouldn't pack my bags.
Newt's bobblehead credentials had been fading fast, I mean who tf remembers the '90s? This presidential "run" of Newts has just guaranteed him another decade on the pundit circuit and he didn't have to do a damn thing except show up for a few "debates."
Harold Ford is the proof that moves Krugman's hypothesis from theory to scientific fact.
Newt is a social dominating authoritarian and he is a megalomaniac to top it all off. If he ever became President this country would be in extreme danger.
http://motherjones.com/politics/1984/11/newt-...
"Gingrich is a serious stinker."
But he wrote that book on 'The crater', so he must be smart.
And Bill O'Liary wrote a book on Lincoln, and Glenn Beck wrote a book on George Washington.
See, it's not a marketing strategy to convince ignorant people that their (real) leaders are smart now is it?
with Bertrand Russell and David Hume.Let's add Einstein.
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It left him intellectually and morally damaged. Poor thing.
Who cares what he says?
...meet the republican't. and then, cute fuzzy little kittens.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
The man is a pompous blowhard and gasbag. He is THE very quintessence of a pseudo intellectual.
In fact pseudo intellectualism has long characterized the 'conservative thinkers,' from WF Buckley to David Brooks and his simpering support for the über rich.
The utter bankruptcy and deep stupidity of what passes for 'intellect' and 'big ideas' on the RIGHT shows up in the unfathomable stupidity of their followers.
MyMy
Very well put.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
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Agree , very well said .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
Bingo!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Harold has to make word sounding noises with his mouth so he can feel he is relevant. I'm not sure why he's on any show since he really isn't worth listening to anytime.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He may be "a civil person", and God only knows what's in his head for political beliefs; but he is far from an intelligent talking head, in my personal opinion.
This is one of my pet peaves......why the Demorcatic Party, or the progressive movement, can NOT find bright, articulate politicians in many corners of this country. Bachmann's challenger was pathetic last time. Sestak was a shill. The SC republikkkon senator's opponent was somebody the Democratic Party didn't even endorse. With these kinds of opponents, it's no wonder the republikkkons hold on to their numbers.
We need to do a better job of finding qualified candidates, and then support them to the hilt. We ALSO need to get our message out. Every rural corner in this country can get rush or vannity and fox propaganda 24/7....but the progressive voice is mute.
but the mass media, especially broadcast media, won't let them see the light of day, and while they're busy trying to impose news blackouts on them, they also run coordinated smear campaigns trying to depict them as non-serious lunatics. The only Democrats who are going to get any kind of coverage are corporate whores and advocates of war and the security /police state.
"Newt is an ignorant person's idea of what an intelligent person is like."
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...Is in the above report. I gotta start reading this stuff.
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We should all praise Newt (yes, swallow that bile) and keep our fingers crossed that he gets the nomination. What fun. Just imagine the nose-dive he'll take ...
In reality, I don't think Newt really wants the nomination. He just wants to renew his "profitability" for another few years of scamming the public. Lots of free air-time, please. Then back to business with some direct mail, some lazy punditry, plenty of vacations, and a renewed credit line at jewelry stores ...
But I thought he was on my side!!!
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I thought he said "serial stinker".
Freedom Isn't Free, So Stop Whining And Pay Your Taxes.
But Gingrich is a "serious thinker."
He seriously thinks very highly of himself.
He's a very arrogant, mean and nasty, rat bastard.
Harold Fraud saying nice things about a Republican fraud.
In other news, water is still wet.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Was it Barney Frank who said that Newt Gingrich was a stupid person's idea of a smart guy?
yeahp , and he was right .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
It's got to be awful for hisego to have the only thing important about your political self be the memory of an opposition political ad that ends with a sexy voice "come see me some time"..
His comment is like vomit telling diarrhea that it smells great.
DiddyMao
Nobody thinks more seriously than Newt about graft, pussy, double-talk and what's good for Newt.
consider the source.
me-oww!
political whore. And an idiot.
"Ford is a serious political whore " , truer words have never been spoken . Ford has no more integrity than Newt Ginrich .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
an ass is also a serious thinker, but just like it, i do not want newt in the white house either
Newt is a serial adulterer and big blowhard. A typical Reslug.
that we complain about the nominee but still complain about the people they put on to praise the nominee? When are we going to get it? If we don't get it, when will the rest get it? The MSM will not get it until we let them know that they are not a credibal source of information.
Harold Ford, Jr.; Birch Evans Bayh III; Joe Lieberman. Quick first thoughts... yes. Three stooges. But not stupid just bought and paid for mouthpieces for the power elite. Excellent evidence of many things... the non-transmissibility via dna of progressivism; that the Democratic Party isn't inherently liberal but actually contains many illiberal operators; the staggering power of the Zionist movement to bag U.S. officeholders and why we shouldn't watch Fox TV
Newt Gingrich is a serious Wanker!
'Talk to the hand'
He will cut loose with white on black hatred like this country has not seen since the race wars of the 60's.
Gingrich will claim that it just shows the anger of voters that want to rid themselves of a socialist in the White House,but behind the scenes his people will be fanning the flames of hatred to attract white independents to run to the safety of their own race. Gingrich has a history of divisive politics and is not above torching this country to beat Obama.
'Talk to the hand'
Ford is sort of right here - Newt *is* one of the "biggest" GOP thinkers. In a "the last tree in the forest after a clear-cut is the tallest" sort of way... ;)
D'yer know who else terrifies Republican office holders, yet has no ground organization? Yup, that's right. Grover Norquist.
Call Harold Ford Jr. a serious asswipe!
Ford is the "new normal" for the Democratic party. In this new left, Reagan has become a folk hero; Republican old ideals (health care, "tax holidays") are the new solutions; and we the "consumer" (we sold our citizenship awhile ago) turned our homes into ATM and cash in our retirement (tax holiday) to keep buying their stuff made over seas with slave labor. Did I mention wages are still flat?
Harold Ford is a FUCKING moron. That's why he's only on the tube at 6:00 AM, Monday - Friday.
...is more of the rotten food in the back of the refrigerator. Get that corporate asshole toadie off my television!
Harold Ford Jr might as well be a republican. Everytime I see is commentary he acts like a member of the GOP
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