George Bush Defends The Patriot Act and 'Enhanced Interrogations'
During an interview with George W. Bush which aired on C-SPAN's Q&A discussing his book Decision Points at the campus of Southern Methodist University in Dallas, the former president was asked if he was "concerned that legislation that you passed such as the Patriot Act opens the door for potential abuse by future presidencies?". Never mind the abuses during his presidency that failed soundly.
He followed it up by saying that he was glad the Congress decided to pass The Patriot Act and renew it again no matter which party was in the majority and defended his administration's spying and torture, or as he called it "enhanced interrogation" that he claimed was necessary to keep us safe from terrorism. He also claimed that The Patriot Act assured that civil liberties were not undermined.
Nothing like some major revisionist history from Bush with no one there to push back during this softball forum from C-SPAN.
CAMERATO: Good morning Mr. President. My name is C.J. Camerato and I’m from Boston Massachusetts and I’m curious, were or are you concerned that legislation that you passed such as the Patriot Act opens the door for potential abuse by future presidencies?
BUSH: Great question. The law that was passed twice by the Congress, once when Republicans controlled the Congress, when we controlled the Congress and once after the ’06 election when we got soundly thumped, guarantee civil liberties and there’s a lot of safeguards in the law. And I don’t think a president can… can, through executive order preempt the safeguards in the Patriot Act. There are plenty of checks and balances in our system and throughout the book and historians will note throughout my presidency that I worked assiduously to make sure that civil liberties were not undermined.
And at the same time, provide the tools necessary for a president, future presidents to be able to protect the homeland and um… look, there’s some very controversial… the Patriot Act was one of the least controversial things I did initially. And then it became a… both parts of the political spectrum became a touchstone of too much government and yet the experts will tell you that the tools inherent in the Patriot Act were necessary to disrupt terrorist’s attacks.
And another interesting point in the book, I learned from history was that a lot of the actions that Harry Truman took made my life easier as president and therefore many of the decisions I made through executive order are the most controversial decisions I made through executive order, such as listening to the phone calls of people who might do us harm, or enhanced interrogation techniques, became the law of the land.
In other words, after the ’04 elections and after the ’06 elections, I went to Congress and said we need to ratify through legislative action that which I had done within the Constitution by executive order. And so the Congress, in spite of the fact that we had been dumped, passed law that now enables a president to have these certain tools.
People say why didn’t you just leave it under executive order? And the reason why is in some cases it might be too hard politically for a president to put out an executive order that for example our authorized enhanced interrogation techniques.
But if that were law of the land as passed by a legislative body it might be easier for that person to use that technique and it was… and so one of the… I think I saw as an accomplishment was to get the Congress to pass much of what I’d done by executive order and in so doing there was embedded in law, concern for civil liberties.
maybe we should use the same torture georgie approves of
to get a confession from him for all the lies he told America
to get us into his two illegal wars.
Any time Bush starts an answer with "Great question," you can bet what follows is a tsunami of bullshit.
FTFY.
So it was Congress’ fault we tortured people. Thanks, George – that makes it all better.
That takes guts.
..in a court of law or the Hague, I don't care which, then he can spend a bunch of time in jail. Then I would feel like we accomplished something.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
And I thought that this stupid mass murdering torturing worse government worker in U.S. history megalomaniac mother fucker would have the sense to STFU and stay hidden.
BTW GEORGIE,
YOU LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT!!!
Time has taken its toll on dubya, the babbling idiot.
... and one hell of a drug.
I don't believe for a second this asshole ever stopped hitting the sauce.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I don't know about the first term, but second term, yeah, definitely blotto.
he was sober. Remember the "pretzel" incident while watching the Super Bowl? I didn't know pretzels were 80 proof. Or how about the header off the Segway? Another DWI for the world's most successful failure. At most of his press conferences he looked loaded or hung over. Jerk-off.
He deserves to get away with it because the people of this country and the reporters let him off the hook for the 9/11 Commission and the Anthrax attacks. No one had the cajones to hold him accountable. He got away with it.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Sadly.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Geronimo, I find we are in concordance on many issues ...
but this is definitely NOT one of those issues.
Both George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney have publicly confessed. nay bragged, about their parts in what are USA and International War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. Waterboarding is not merely an "enhanced interrogation technique" but torture, explicitly condemned under the UN Geneva Conventions. Extreme rendition is not merely a "snatch-and-grab" of foreign nationals but kidnapping, explicitly considered a felony in every civilized nation on Earth. Initiating unprovoked conflicts against other nations under false pretenses is not merely "preemptive forward defense" but a clear violation of the United Nations Charter -- a war war crime.
Every senior member of the George W. Bush regime that has colluded or conspired in the commission of these war crimes & crimes against humanity are also guilty of these crimes. It is also against USA criminal code & international treaty for any successive regime to fail to prosecute these war criminals, effectively making the senior members of the Obama regime criminal felons in aiding and abetting the flight from prosecution of the principle criminal felons of these war crimes & crimes against humanity.
Failure of the Obama regime to end these illegal foreign conflicts is criminal. Failure of the Obama regime to prosecute these USA-based war criminals is also criminal, albeit of a secondary "enabling" status. The only viable solution to this crisis of the rule of law in the USA is for the Obama regime to take all of the previous George W. Bush regime's senior members into custody, and then turn them over to the International War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, and then issue a "mea culpa" regarding the Obama regimes failure to legally respond in a timely fashion to the requirement to seek prosecution of these war criminals.
Personally, I would recommend that the Obama regime "black bag" these war criminals, employ "enhanced interrogation techniques" to extract their confessions, and "extreme rendition" these sorry war criminals to the Hague for prosecution. (FWIW: The prosecution of the George W. Bush regime war criminals would likely take "the wind out of the sails" of the Obama regime's vocal naysayers in the "loyal opposition" Republican Party.)
But that's just my take on this sorry chapter in USA history.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
Was it all just a Dream??
... NEVER FORGET!!
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
"A dream to some. A nightmare to others!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mJwgPiarg
"Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" - President George W. Bush at the United Nations - November 10, 2001
"We must speak the truth about terror." -- George W. Bush
"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." -- George W. Bush
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
– George W. Bush (August 5, 2004)
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
international lawbreaker.
US law isn't the ultimate in the world.
Oh yeah this Anti American SCUM BAG, feels safe so now he is crawling out from under the rock he has been hiding under. then him and his Hate and Fear mongers want to give one of the Architect of 9-11 a defenders of the constitution award, how sick are these Anti American Racist, Nazi Fear and Hate mongering christians you know the religion of convenience and Hatred.
What makes it worse this BABOON can't see what he has done wrong and the Girls in the Minority when they had this piece of Shame by the short hairs wanted to protect the GARBAGE, lets send him to the middle of Cairo or Alexandria WITH OUT his bodyguards and lets see how long the COWARD last.
Remember this SCUMBAg never explained his PHONY and DOCTORED MILITARY RECORD you know the record of a GUTLESS,SPINELESS,COWARD and TRAITOR to the US Constitution.
- and Nancy "Empeachment's off the table" Pelosi and Barack "Look Forward" Obamma are now complicit in war crimes by failing to investigate and prosecute this repulsive blob of snake snot and his minions and puppet-masters...
... the same bag of lukewarm piss in a suit. The only difference is whether their name is followed by an "R" or a "D".
There are quite a few things politicians could do to help "the little people". Failing to do so just shows that they don't have any intention of doing so. (single payer, anyone? social security funding? pharma price controls? regulating hedge funds and commodities markets?)
Why isn't this living piece o' shit in jail getting buggered and begging for his life?
Look closely when this disgusting war criminal pig says the phrase "Enhanced interrogation techniques" - it has to fight smiling - this abomination of creation pulled from the hideous festering womb of Ma Bush damn wells knows it was torture and is just fine with that - in fact he probably got the same pleasure from it as he did when he was a child shoving lit firecrackers up frogs' asses...
Is this the same hatred that is convened upon Obama by the Tea Party? It sounds the same. Is hatred justifiable in this case? Is eliminationist rhetoric to be condoned now? Can you tell the difference?
it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume Buddhabreath has thought about and sufficiently answered those concerns pointed to by your questions, and yet still chooses to use that tone and language. could it be that the 'problem', so to speak, is better solved by you?
edit#2: geezus f-ing buddha, i can't type tonight
What I want of Bush/Cheney is justice – nothing more. Hatred only breeds hatred.
strong language doesn't necessarily imply hatred; that's your leap. that's all i'm saying.
Understood. It's still important to know the difference, because they do sound the same.
I don't give a damn about Bush. If you want to use civil words toward this bloody maggot, then go right ahead. Even after hundreds of thousands of innocent lives snuffed out, billions even trillons of $ squanderd and generational damage to our democracy that may not be reversable - go ahead, I cannot.
Perhaps if you experienced the results of his policies - for example having the brains and entrails of your children splatterd all over you while your wife begs you to kill her because half her body is missing and her children are dead? - maybe then you'd wake the F up.
I abhor violence - but what's even worse are people like YOU Taarak who draw FALSE equivalencies and have no apparent sense of justice. YOU are the problem and why these crimes go unpunished.
Liberals fought and died to build this nation - they need to STAND UP to stop this fascist tide.
Go ahead and tell me where my facts are wrong and why I am wrong to feel such rage - go ahead and tell my why I am a sociopath like Glen Beck - or maybe like the sociopathic prosecutors at Nuremburg who refused to "Look Ahead" and let the past rest.
I'm waiting.
Sure, I’ll tell you. You state no facts – only rage. Your rage won’t get Bush prosecuted any more than my “waking the fuck up” will.
You tell me that I am the problem, and I am the reason why Bush goes unprosecuted… and then suggest I’m drawing false equivalencies? Really?
Go ahead and express your anger. Vent away. If that’s all you have, you end up with nothing.
Better yet – do stand up. Stand up and state why there is a difference between the animosity directed toward Obama and that directed toward Bush. Make a case – and make it stick. You may convince a few people that way. If enough people are convinced, results may happen.
Telling people how angry you are, and how much you hate, won’t convince anybody of anything other than how outraged you are. I hear that from the Tea Party enough, and they don’t convince me either.
Taarak, you seem to be a thoughtful, well meaning person and I can understand your not wanting "hate" on the left, but don't assume I HATE Bush the man - I don't care if he lives or dies - he is a mass murderer - it is human to have rage against the man responsibe for launching an unprovoked ware of agression (Charge #1 against the Nazis at Nurumberg).
You said: "You state no facts – only rage."
I previously said: " Even after hundreds of thousands of innocent lives snuffed out, billions even trillons of $ squanderd and generational damage to our democracy..." there are three facts right there - OK, the last one perhaps is opinion, but I can defend it well - I know you agree with me about "Bush vs. Gore" for example.
Then you said "Go ahead and express your anger. Vent away. If that’s all you have, you end up with nothing."
Taarak, I vented my anger at many demonstrations over the years - particulary the protests against the war (before it started). If everyone vented their anger as I do - this world would be in better shape. I know that's a shamless pat of my own back - at least I tried. You assume a lot about me, my friend.
THEN you said "Telling people how angry you are, and how much you hate, won’t convince anybody of anything other than how outraged you are. I hear that from the Tea Party enough, and they don’t convince me either."
Here is where you are WAY off base - can't you see that the false equivalency is total bullshit? "I know Beck is crazy but the left does it too" or "The Dems act the same way the Republicans do when they're in power", "Both sides lie the same way" etc. etc. IT IS NOT TRUE. On my father's grave and my son's life IT IS NOT SO.
Stand up, get in the faces of conservatives who are complicit in the destruction of this nation AND TELL THEM SO!
Rage when justified by the right circumstances is a human, normal and healthy reaction.
Peace by upon you.
disliking or whatever you want to say-personally, I don't wanna say hate because I find that enhances the man's presence in my mind and I don't even want to dignify his existence as a person by thinking about him.
But I certainly don't like him. He's a sick, cynical motherfucker whose stupidity is often used even by some of my lefty friends who wish to pin all the blame for the atrocities of the Bush years on Richard B. Cheney. No one put a gun to Bush's head and made him run and so I think he should be held just as accountable for the atrocities, whether he was the idea man, or just the puppet giving cover to the idea men, for his ideas.
I find that the hatred directed toward Obama is completely irrational in the case of most of the Tea Partiers and I think that the anger of much of the left toward Bush is totally justified.
I agree with that, and agree with your view of Bush/Cheney. At this point it's a matter of semantics and what you deem as hatred. Is is irrational to hate Bush? Maybe not, but only if you recognize him as the figurehead of a corrupt administration. I think hating him personally, or wishing harm of him because of what he did is irrational. I'll stick with wanting justice. That's worse for him.
with you. I don't think saying hating a person is bad. I hate what he's done to the world. I don't like him but I don't wanna even recognize his existence in the world adequately by spending energy hating him.
Hating someone for what he has DONE, like Bush and his blood soaked hands, and hating someone for who he IS, like the tea baggers do with Obama, is not the same.
Sorry.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
So then hate is justifiable; as long as you hate for the right reason? The Tea Party hates Obama for the wrong reason, but hate for Bush is fine?
The danger with this line of thinking is there is no end. One side hates for one reason, the other for theirs – and they both sound exactly the same. No winners, no losers – only never-ending hatred.
There are many reasons to hate the Bush years. Even if valid and justified, when one side sounds just like the other, there is no difference. It becomes perpetual. I think it’s better to change the dialog than perpetuate the animosity.
Yes.
You're the one making the arbitrary assumption that hate, somehow, is not justifiable.
Bush invading a country under totally false pretenses and his policies leading to the deaths of tens to hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians make him guilty as fuck.
Me hating his guts for what he has done does not make him magically the "victim," it simply means that I am being consistent with my own belief system.
Whether or not that is compatible with your own belief system is another matter altogether. However, you trying to establish that false equivalence that hating Bush for what he has done as being somehow indistinguishable from hating Obama for who he is, may have to do more with your own tone deafness than with the harmony of the music being played.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I never said the actions of Bush and Obama are indistinguishable. I never gave any false equivalencies either. The equivalence I’m pointing out is the language used to describe the two. And the hate is the same – regardless of the reason.
You seem to think that I am defending the Bush administration. I am not. I am attempting to strengthen the argument against that administration. I also use very heated rhetoric when I do this, but I always temper that rhetoric with the realization that those defending Bush use the same. If the arguments sound the same, there is no difference in tone. The music is the same.
with the insanity the teabaggers spout regarding Obama for being "a islamofascist socialist born in Kenya." You are indeed establishing a grossly false equivalence.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt regarding that dissonance being due to tone deafness. You're the one who is implying anything about you defending the Bush administration.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
That’s a strawman, ixnay.
If the TeaBaggers say “I hate Obama because he’s ‘a islamofascist socialist born in Kenya.’” They are absolutely wrong in their assumption, and that is no justification for hating him. Yet hate him they do.
If anybody says “I hate Bush because he started two unjustifiable wars and bankrupted our country” they are right, and that statement can be defended. The hate is still the same. Only the reasons are different.
If you start a tirade against Bush that sounds exactly like a tirade against Obama, only with the names swapped, there’s no difference there either. That equivalence is what I was originally pointing out.
(And I reserve the right to point out that I stand against almost everything the Bush administration ever did).
... pun intended. So you create massive strawmen and then accuse others for addressing them? Wow, I see you have an agenda then.
Again you keep pushing arbitrary fallacy being pushed to frame the argument in your favor. I can easily turn the table on you and arbitrarily define "concern" to being all the same regardless of context and other "nuances" which are usually required to provide meaning (just like you did with the concept of "hate"). So basically your concern for all that "hate" being channeled against Bush is pretty much to a defense of Bush. Since all concern is the same, and it is basically an implicit defense.
Well, there you have enjoy the ultimate consequences of your logic: you're now defending Bush. Congrats.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Yup, that's how a strawman works. You ended up hanging both of them.
I bet nuance and context just became incredibly important once the tables were turned on you. And now you don't know how to get yourself out of that pickle, do you?
Well, OK then. Carry on with your "concern" defending Bush.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
If you wish to comment on what I’ve said, I’ll gladly continue. You stopped that discussion when you setup two different arguments that differed substantially from my intent, and then proceeded to argue those. You know… straw men.
If you wish to discuss the differences between hate and concern, it will devolve into semantics as you say – and still will have no relevance to what I was saying.
I can’t keep arguing points you attribute to me, that I don’t make.
Prosecute Bush and convict his ass.
When justice is served, the hate goes away.
But I don't buy your argument either. Anger and hatred of Bush is completly justified. As long as he's free and unpunished, expect that hate to exist. And thats ok.
It's when people are promoting or planning committing bodily harm, it's gone too far. I don't see anyone doing that here.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard
eliminationist rhetoric in this case. I don't like Bush either. He's a sick sick man.
George W. Bush was an extreme example of what went before and what has continued after him.
The Republicans and the Democrats are complicit in these crimes.
Barack Obama's failure prosecute or investigate insures that it will all happen again. It makes him an accessory after the fact.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Hugz to you my sister!
His Project for a New American Century boys must be awful happy and proud of him. He did such a good job accomplishing all of their goals and avoiding any type of serious prosecution or threat. Job well done for him!! They even got to watch Saddam hang.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
I’m not sure where the snark ends and the commentary begins, so let me say this…
The “PNAC boys" got their chance to do everything they set out to do. Nowhere were their hands tied and they were given free reign. Yet the only thing they succeeded in was not getting put in jail. Everything else failed.
They won. Project for a New American Century did not fail. Many of their goals and legislation was achieved. They got their resource wars in the Middle East and their strategic military bases. They got their military budget ballooned even further than they hoped. They got their appointments and elections won. They won.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
You're speaking of the tactics they used. None of their goals took place. They expected Iraq to fall, then Iran, and for the ME to become part of our hegemony. It didn't happen. We are now in a quagmire that is costing us billions. Oil prices didn’t fall. We don’t control OPEC any more now than we did 15 years ago. The dollar is losing as an oil reserve currency.
Their tactics were used as they intended. The result was nothing near what they expected.
falling oil prices....they were interested in 'controlling the oil supply" coming from under Iraq and personally profiting from it. And, the main goal of their Defense Strategy for the 21st Century was to do preemptive incursions into the ME to gain military control and to establish permanent, forward military bases from which to continue the march across the Arab lands.
They've accomplished those goals and others - they don't care how much treasure or blood it costs the citizens of the US (or the ME) - all of them is wealthy and set for life and many still enjoy political prowess - and most of all their Freedom. Everyone involved in creating and undertaking those PNAC plans should have been hanged at the Hague by now. There's still time.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
I agree that control of the ME oil was the goal. They didn’t get it – and cost is a factor.
So did their sister cause, the "islamic fundamentalist movement". Neocons and "al qaeda" wear different uniforms, but their purpose is pretty much the same.
George W wasn't even a signatory to PNAC. But Jeb is. And how convenient is it that Jeb was also the Governor of a swing state during the 2000 (s)election.
...America cut deals with Japan (after a few yrs) not to pursue or prosecute any more war criminals for atrocities committed on American POWs held in camps in the Pacific during the war, even going so far as to release Japanese criminals who had already been prosecuted and sentenced to death or life in prison... is it any surprise we wouldn't bother to go after our own?
to watch and listen to Dubya repeating the LIES. The Patriot Act was written well before Darth & Dubya
perpetrated - planned - allowed - enabled (pick one) the events that occurred on 9/11/2001. They just happened to have a 600-800 page piece of comprehensive legislation ready 'in case' it might ever be needed.
And, whaddya' know?
As I watched a rerun of Obama's speech in Cairo in 2009, and heard some of his comments and Hillary's in the last few days, I couldn't help wish that what they say they want to happen in Egypt and what they want for the people there they would take actions to ensure the same things would happen right here in the USofA.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
I couldn't care less what this goddamn baboon thinks about anything. I'm just glad he's out of office and completely fucking irrelevant now. I wish to hell the media would forget his useless ass.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
i'm too concerned about what the current dirtbag-in-chief is up to to be concerned with what this old has-been has to say. his service to the empire has been duly noted. now please let him fade into well-deserved obscurity.
I keep asking the same question and keep getting NO answers.
WHY is any US media organization other than the Murdoch-propaganda machine, giving ANY COVER to this clown OR his sidekick in global war crimes??? If the gutless Obama administration or ANY OTHER political cover group continues this absurd notion that they can just wave their hands and the issue of GLOBAL WAR CRIMES AND publicly admitted WAR CRIMINALS just disappears as an issue that the US and other countries will have to deal with - like it or not!
GEORGE BUSH DESERVES TO BE SITTING IN A CELL IN THE HAGUE WAITING FOR HIS WAR CRIMES TRIAL... WHY ISN'T THIS HAPPENING???
I am with you! It is a terrible thing that this nation may never recover from
1) Bush vs. Gore stopping the democratic process in its tracks and a corrupt supreme court illegally appointing a "president"
2) That same president and his administration committing heinous crimes against the constitution and against humanity only to have the coward and traitor/ex-"consitutional teacher" Obama ignore the law and refuse to investigate or prosecute.
Don' even try telling me to look forward - that is a specious bullshit argument for ostiches and idiots who don't know or care about history or justice.
Well said. On this I am in complete agreement.
Because it isn't just FOX that is a corporately-deployed rightwing propaganda organ. The only place you'd probably get honest coverage about this murderer is on CBC, Al Jezeera and mayber BBC. It isn't going to happen with any U.S. originated coverage.
boosh looks next door to Death
Let's hope they have a Welcome Wagon.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
He loves this stuff and is building on Bush's legacy by expanding government's reach into our civil liberties. Maybe they should have _both_ been on and answered together.
Considering what we now know about Iraq's WMD, and the continuing questions that haunt the official 9-11 Commission Report, a good interviewer / interrogator (like Rachel Maddow) would have had both squirming in their seats and prevaricating.
I look forward to that televised interview, should it ever happen ...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
"Throughout my Presidency, I worked assiduously to make sure that civil liberties were not undermined."
Oh that George, he's such a comedian!!!!!
The bottle has missed him.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
( I know, I know, and will continue to wait) for his ego to really take over for him to admit to what REALLY happened with 9/11...like Col. Jessup in "A FEW GOOD MEN"...he (they) can't wait to brag about what they pulled on the world....
against the pyschopathic war criminal, George W. Bush. Guess he'll never be brought to justice because Obama (who is now about equally as guilty) thinks it's more important to move forward. Once again, Barry, thanks for nothing.
The longer that these war criminals are on the loose, and the government fails to prosecute them, the longer the list of "co-conspirators after the fact" continues to grow. Failure to prosecute war crimes and crimes against humanity are also crimes, war crimes. That comes from USA criminal code as well as from International Treaty (UN Geneva Conventions & UN Charter itself).
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
Getting a Goverment retirement payed by US Tax Dollars, free health Insurance while America is going to hell.
sometimes you pray there's a hell
... would you just go the f**k away already? Nobody gave a damn about what you thought when you were pretending to be the President, so why would anyone care now?
The still frame of that embedded video reminds me of an old song whose refrain goes something like: "...The tears of a clown...." That's Dubya, all right. What gets me is, guys like Mark McKinnon actually go about singing the praises of the Great Clown's recent memoirs. McKinnon even told Andrea Mitchell the Bush Administration had ample proof that Saddam had WMD'S. Can you believe that? And that silly woman did not even challenge him on it! Now word comes that McKinnon has started up some PAC designed to mellow the debates. He reminds me of the senate minority leader who says he will cooperate with Obama if Obama goes along with GOP policy making. These guys remind me of the shill with a coin that says "Heads, I win; tails, you lose."
"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez
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