While discussing whether gay marriage is a big issue or not and if there has been an appropriate amount of media coverage given to the subject, Dennis Prager ends the segment with this whopper:

Prager: I think we are more likely to survive economically than we are the redefinition of marriage.

Yeah that's it Dennis. Gay marriage is going to end life as we know it but a depression....meh. Or maybe he just meant we have a better chance of coming out of this bad economy than we do not seeing gay marriage become legal?? Maybe someone can explain it to me. Who knows but Dennis, when you use the word "survive" it sounds like you're trying to equate gay marriage with something that's going to kill us.

John Aravosis rightfully has a good chuckle at Prager's expense after he made the statement. These conservatives are getting more ridiculous by the day with their rhetoric. Of course Prager also doesn't understand why this is a civil rights issue and why he and his ilk are looked at as bigots for their stance.

I've got a question that either John or Howard should have asked Dennis. What do you think is a bigger threat to marriage? Gays being allowed to marry or someone like yourself being allowed to get divorced twice and married three times? Come on Dennis! If you can do it three times can't the gay people be allowed to get married even once? Conservative...hypocrisy is thy name.



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Happiness is Serious Problem.

Heh. That's so full of awesome that he wrote a book called that.

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But a bad economy means not having the marriage to die for.

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How many kids are going to be essentially abandoned by a gay parent looking for that elusive job?

Why should gay people be protected from marriage? It's unfair. ;)

A "tea bagger"?

He's 2M4M

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Stel Pavlou had his newest thread yesterday on how M4M was a long used abbreviation in gay newspapers for one man looking for another.

Is a marriage equality site.

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I'm getting a little confused with the abbreviations, but the site for national organization for marriage has a similar abbreviation, and they're against gay marriage, that was the joke. Sort of along the lines of Nixon's '72 campaign being called Committee to REElect the President (CREEP).

But I'm NOT A CROOK! (unless I get caught, oopsie!)

And it's abbreviation used in personal ads to indicate men seeking men for romantic activity. Hence the joke.
Also, teabagging is a sexual activity that involves putting the scrotum into the mouth of another person. Hence, conservatives using the term repeatedly is funny.

Wingnuts become more pathetic with each day that rolls around. They must have something to hate to be functional.

Especially when there is one bigoted statement after another that falls from their mouths and then the standard, "but I'm not a bigot!" ridiculous disclaimer. As if they are the authority on deciding they aren't being a bigot!

but...if you feel compelled to state that you're not a bigot, then you probably are one.

that he would not, in fact, have to marry another guy?

Who the hell IS Dennis Prager?

Must be important; he gets to be on teevee; I don't have one.

It keeps assholes out of my living room.

As I've noted before; if you want to protect marriage - outlaw divorce!

I fully support gay marriage 210% and believe that Dennis Prager is a threat to freedom, human rights, and yes, the economy, since gay people on average, make more than the median income of all Americans.

Take gays and lesbians out of the economy and it will be even worse than it is right now. What an idiot that Dennis Prager really is. Someone needs to put a muzzle on that loser and moron! I just can't get over what a jerk he is. I never liked this idiot, either.

I will do all I can to support gay marriage and see that it becomes a right for all Americans.

At any rate, as I have argued before both marriage and heterosexuality are nothing but social constructs, just as religion was invented by people, who, were hallucinating, at that time, and, continue on with their delusional thinking now. Time to fly the gay pride flag and all its beautiful colors!

I'm a very happily married heterosexual woman. My husband and I have been married for over 20 years and were introduced by a gay man, hah.

I've always believed that gay marriage is only threatening if you think you are gay. One of my good gay friends married his partner, but being the smart, resourceful man that he is, he and his partner approached his partner's parents about adopting him, to which they agreed. This way, if anything happens that negates their union, he and his partner are still related. He should not have had to do it, but at least they will always be able to make decisions regarding each other. He likes to say that he's now f***ing his brother, and that is why I love him. Life would be so damn boring without my irreverent gay friends, drag queens, etc.

Another busy body conservative. Mind your own f*cking business, your own f*cking family and your own f*cking marriage you knuckldragging flatearther.

Just ask the many many many people who come into my clinic and are newly unemployed. They're concerned about gays all right.

I think Dennis Praeger is a greater threat to America than all the Islamic terrorists combined.

He and his ilk would turn us into a theocracy.

Ewwww.

xtian-o-fascist repuglicans!
As far as I'm concerned...they're enemies of the state.

Explain yourself Prager. What in the world is threatened in your mind. The economy will fail if gays marry? Isn't it more likely that your personal depravity has cheapened the institution of marriage more than any threat of same sex marriage, what with you getting in and out of it like a pair of worn out slippers.

He's found a way to profit handsomely from his minions; Cash flow isn't a problem he's going to be sweating too soon, even in this economy.
As long as people fear and hate, this guy can expect to keep his fat affluent-self fed.
But gay people having fun in the sun?? -That's a cause his peeps can really focus their hate on and rally behind -That'll be the death of them...
So?
So let's all send him money so he can fight for us, and keep us safe... (See how easy it is?)

The point is, the only reason Dennis the menace's panties are in a twist is because the act of consumating this relationship involves sex in a way he does not approve of. The moment you impose your own religious morals or personal preferences upon another (especially via the government) is the moment you become a racist, bigot, or tyrant.

The defense of marriage argument slips the moment you accept that a marriage can be ended by either person. Marriage (according to law) is a personal contract entered into by to people, the government does not have the right to impose any personal or moral ideology upon me concerning any other contract, why this one?

This man has spoiled all our plans we set in motion a long long time ago to destroy hetero society. All part of massive conspiratorial agenda. Damn him. And then they steal teabagging from us to boot. We will get you my pretties, and all your little dogs, too!

Canada approved gay marriage in 2004.

After that the unemployment rate continued to fall to a 30 year low in 2007.
After that economic growth outperformed the U.S. and the rest of the G8.
After that Canada continued to post budget surpluses and pay down its national debt.
After that the Canadian dollar continued its rise from a low of .62 cents US to a high of $1.10US before going back to its sweet spot of .80US.

And while Canada is being sucked into the same depression as everyone else (through American mismanagement of its economy) it is still the only G8 country that hasn't had a single bank failure and is expected to come out of this recession first.

So I think Prager is wrong.

1) My white wife and I (Black Male) were married 26 years ago. In Prager's America this would be illegal, were he to have his way.

2) I remember a time when experts and analysts were the main interviewees of reporters, not radio and tv personalities.

if not Prager himself, who were shrieking that "miscegenation" would destroy America. Somehow we're still here. And the danger has actually been from the wingnuts themselves.

What's confusing is that these same people bitched and moaned about gay people because we were so promiscuous and illicit and unstable. Now that a lot of gay people want to form stable legal family units, and conform to a hetero standard, they scream and bitch that we're destroying society. You can never win or satisfy these people. They're only happy when making others unhappy.

2 Unrelated items:

For the heteros: Marilyn Chambers has died.

For the homos: Jack Wrangler died.

2 porn icons in one week. :(

They claim that liberals want the government intruding on personal freedoms but the Conservatives want to control everything we do.

They want to legislate you into a faith they don't have.

They're ONLY happy when all the gay people realize the error of their ways, renounce their sinful lifestyle, turn to Jesus, and make love to women in the proper, Christian-approved missionary style.

Or if all the gay people in America were rounded up, put on a boat, and sank into the Pacific ocean.

Of course, if that happened, they would only find someone else to hate.

"Look maw, sez here in teh Bibull that we alls gotta hate on shellfish too! Let's kill all the shellfish eaters!"

I hope they ALL jump on the bandwagon.

How great would that be? The U.S. is going through a depression, unemployment is higher than it's been in 50 years, people are living in tent cities, and the Republicans are more concerned about stopping gay marriage.

Go for it, Dennis!

who did a two part series of columns arguing that women should have sex with their husbands even if they're not in the mood.

has a perennial case of "the headaches" every night.

you see, dennis has destroyed 2 marriages, and he doesnt have gay marriage to blame for it

who woulda thunk it?

That was the first thing I thought of as well.

these assholes are so transparent it ain't even funny any more.

Who the f*ck cares if gay people get married? They are taxpayers and citizens, they should have equal rights. End of the f*cking story.

Just for kicks, I did a tax comparison tonight after filing. If it was legal for my partner and I to be married (not sure we'd do it anyway), we would've gotten BACK about $2000. Instead, we owed - added up separately - about $1500. nice.

Maybe this is why the powers that be don't want us to be married? Forget latching on to the whole morality issue. You can't tell me that the "government" really cares about it's constituants moral fortitude, let alone their own. When it comes to inacting/repealing laws, you just have to follow the money to see who's in charge.

Um, but I'm not bitter

And there in lies the rub, wayoutjenn.

The evangelicals are being used by the corporatists once again. The anti gay marriage view is driven by money. Do you think insurance companies want another plethora of joint coverages...do you think employers do?

If money wasn't involved, no one would care if you married your cat.

Which can be read about here?

Sign me up to marry a lovely bi or lesbian lady then, please oh please!

(I didn't want to link to Prager's original Townhall.com column that my link refers to, but if you aren't convinced his idea of marriage is hell, and you have a strong stomach, then google "Dennis Prager marital sex" and the townhall link is the first one.)

Gay Marriage is a bigger threat to traditional marriage than Republican wars that take a spouses for extended tours. many of whom return in a box.

You betcha! Doncha know! Wink wink.

It has got to hurt to be so stupid and hate-filled.

And those knuckles must be raw and hurting from dragging the ground all day.

Prager usually settles right down . . . after he gets a blowjob.

you mean gives one. he's probably tapped more toes than larry craig.

"There we disagree John. I think that most Americans who do want marriage defined as it always has been have simply given up on their ability to influence courts which have taken it out of their hands or legislatures which have taken it out of their hands"

Isn't that how EVERYTHING changes in a democracy?

The activist legislators are legistlating from the legislature! :shakes fist:

not a civil one

praeger doesnt want to frame it as a religious argument...

first, because when it comes to religion, he is a friggin hypocrite, picking and choosing what he likes and doesnt like to do...which would be ok, if he would own up to it

second, because if it is a religious argument, then the state has no biz in dealing with marriage

and that is the way it should be

and i would love for some court to state that since there cannot be equal protection under the law, all civil marriages are null and void

look, no priest, rabbi, monk or iman has to sanction gay marriage...but if the state is going to continue licensing marriages, then it must license same sex couples

that is all

it is time for the gays to be as miserable as the straights

...We treat divorce like it's a normal end result of a marriage. Now HOW in the hell is gay marriage more damaging than this crap economy? I mean we have this thing divorce (which TERMINATES a marriage) which we've had for awhile now, and civilization has yet to implode. But ooohhh shhhiitt, we're all gonna die if the queers can get married!

People like this guy are the reason lunatic asylums were invented.

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The ONLY threat I pose to heterosexual marriage is...
... To those who's husband is in the closet!

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they're against it!

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I'm glad Prager recognizes that Marriage equality is akin to racial integration, 7:14-7:22.

However, the question that begs to be asked is...
... What's the purpose in denying equality?

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Easy...it saves money for corporations.

theres nothing wrong with gay marriage... sometimes gay couples are better that man-woman rel.. its all about compatibility..

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Dennis Prager is a moron

I have been an active supporter of the Democratic Party for years. I have worked my butt off for many good causes for years, so I have the right to say this. Like many Democrats, I agree with almost everything in the platform EXCEPT homosexual marriage and legal abortion for any reason except rape, incest, or life of the mother being at risk.
As I said,I am strongly against homosexuals marrying each other, and also against polygamy and siblings marrying, which will be the next big legal battles, as mentioned on 20/20 and other news sources. And you know what really makes me sick? I AM SICK OF HOMOSEXUALS SAYING THAT HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE IS THE SAME AS THE CIVIL RIGHTS STRUGGLE. THAT IS OFFENSIVE TO ALL BLACK PEOPLE, SO STOP DOING IT. Oh, and one more thing. Thank you, homosexual marriage activists, for being one of the biggest reasons that Bush was able to destroy our country for EIGHT YEARS. I'm sure Karl Rove would kiss you all if he could. You all are the gift that just keeps on giving to the GOP.

You need to stop. Right now. Back away from the keyboard. Check your head. Pull it out of your asshole. Oh, you ARE the asshole.

Sorry, my bad.

Who, in their right minds...gay, straight, neuter...would want to get married anyway?
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It's just getting the state in on your business.

The repugnacans and conservative movement are turning into Jerry Springer with the way over the top comparisons and like Jerry Springer they have ended up being a bad joke.

in his next attempt to run for Congress.

I debated gay marriage with a con who eventually admitted to 2 divorces and 3 marriages. I finally told him,'You are like a guy who has had 3 DUI's, 2 were wrecks with casualities BUT you think you have the right to deny me a driver's license because you don't like who is in my passenger seat. You want to 'protect marriage', make 'adultery' a 'capitol offense' and outlaw 'divorce'. Otherwise, STFU.

i still don't get this one
it is as old as abraham

Of course everything that comes out of Pagers mouth is rather stupid anyway but it could be pointed out to him to that gay marraige does NOT involve any "redefinition" of marraige at all. It's the wackjobs pushing their federal ban on LGBT marraiges that want to redefine marraige!

Nobody gave a sh*t what Dennis Prager said 20 years ago. Good lord, what does it take for these guys to no longer be on my TV? I'm surprised they haven't dug up Wally George's corpse and asked it what it thinks.

Again the Reslugs are so out of touch with their bigoted thinking about how a gay couples are hurting the world and missing the entire point of what everybody elses real problem is "The Economy Stupid".

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