Countdown: Hardin, Montana, Willing to Take Forty Percent of the Gitmo Detainees
By Heather Sunday May 24, 2009 2:00pm
Even though the Democrats caved into Republican fear mongering over housing the Guantanamo Bay detainees in American prisons is seems the town of Hardin, Montana, is more concerned about the jobs it would bring than being afraid of keeping the prisoners in their back yard. Hardin's town council voted unanimously earlier this month to approve the offer.
Olbermann: So you and your neighbors are willing to take a hundred detainees that the FBI Director and some Senators and foreign countries are afraid to? Why are you willing to do this?
Smith: Well they're going to be in here. They're not going to go anywhere. I think we have a secure lockup and the next part is really the outside issue with how do you protect it. I guess we maintain if you look around, we're pretty flat. We think that it would be easy to protect and if you can't protect 3400 people in Hardin, Montana, we've got larger problems in this country.
Right in Dick Cheney's back yard. Imagine that!
(Originally posted on Wednesday May 20, 2009 9:18pm)
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For a second there I thought it said:
Countdown: Hannah Montana Willing to Take Forty Percent of the Gitmo Detainees
I'd pay a dollar for that!
Pervert.
See Lohan and titney.
This really sounds like a great idea. Too bad Max Baucus is a total tool.
I'm acquainted with a number of folks who live north of Hardin; they're good shots, love to hunt, and hate bullshit.
If the detainees end up in Hardin, MT, it's my hunch that they'd be wise to stay safely within the walls of the prison. It's hard to imagine anyone making it out of a prison without the locals figuring it out pretty quick; it's amazing how fast news travels in some of those rural areas.
Where is everybody today?
Already barbequing their tofu and portabello burgers?
I know you're out there,
I can hear you masticating.
making hay while the sun shines. Just came in to take a little break and see what's up!
I think it's a great idea to send the detainees to Montana or any other state prison. I can't understand why people are so against the detainees being in US prisons. It doesn't make sense.
More fear-mongering, indeed!
for "Manzanar" status in the lists of historical monuments.
It's dishonorable for locales to compete for the opportunity to be the site of unconstitutional detentions of abused and mal-treated detainees from battle-fields half a world away.
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This would help feed America's prison industrial complex which makes one wonder why the conservatives would be against it. Too stupid to the potential profit forest for the profit trees I guess.
I love when I hear the Repukes crying about not having the Gitmo Gang in prisons because it wouldn't be safe for the inmate population. F*&%@ killers, rapist and the like and these big bad terrorists would just corrupt these sweet little angels. Makes you want to laugh if they weren't so sad. Repukes sound like pussies afraid of their own shadow these days.
That would really scare the shit out of the cowardly son of a bitch.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Do these Repukes think that some of the people in American prisons now aren't any more dangerous than some 16 to 20 year old terrorist. Most of these terrorist are young uneducated desperate people. That's what we have in American prisons now. The only difference is they're citizens. What? Do terrorist have some special kind of magic that helps them escape from a maximum security prison? I know what will change their minds. Make a new law that allows Muslims to be tortured in American prisons. I bet they'll go for it then.
Like Cheney, the "detainees" have yet to be charged, convicted or sentenced to a US prison.
Hardin is in serious danger of drying up and blowing away, so they are more than willing to seize any opportunity to make money. Unfortunately, our entire congressional delegation went batshit at the very idea. I guess a handful of half trained jihadis (and more than a few innocent bystanders caught up in the net) are far more dangerous than the hundreds of trained and battle seasoned German, Italian, and Japanese POWs we housed right here in Montana during WW II. Freaking cowardly asshats.
by expanding the prison, thus making room for the Rethuglican crooks and liars and assorted pukes who break the law?
And every Republican will share a cell with a terrist ..
YeeHaw !!
1.) They need the jobs.
2.) They have the facilites.
3.) The 'terrorists' would probably prefer to remain in their cells up there than escape.
I'm sure there are a lot of people with guns in Montana who know how to use them and there ain't too many places for a foreign detainee in prison garb to hide up there if they were to escape.
"em>there ain't too many places for a foreign detainee in prison garb to hide up there if they were to escape
Hmmmm. Actually not. You obviously have not spent much time up here. We have lots of space and very few people, so there are ample places to hide. Hardin is near the Absaroka Mountains, which means lots more places to hide. Of course you do have to watch out for bears (black and grizzly) and mountain lions. That said, there really are a lot of good old boys armed to the teeth who have been filling the freezer with deer and elk all their lives. Much safer to stay inside. Here is what the landscape looks like.
True, there's a lot of unoccupied territory to hide in. But I'm thinking that a bunch of boys from the desert might not be too wild about the climate in Montana LOL
First of all these individuals need to be tried and sentenced. There is strength in numbers. By spreading them throughout the US no organization has the resources to account for all there locations. The only thing the Repukes have left in their pathetic arsenal is fear. And only the pinheads follow that mantra.
and he or she is held in a federal facility they will stay there will little chance of causing anyone any problems except perhaps the guards. The man who tried to bomb the twin towers in the nineties sits in a federal facility. Most people have forgotten about him.
I am a AMERICAN I have served my contry I am a Combat War Veteran and unlike the Racist Nazi Committe (RNC), I use caution I do Not KNOW FEAR.
So will the Cowards on the Right sit down shut up and let the REAL AMERICANS resolve your problem.
Only a fool with a hidden agenda would cry as these CLOWNS on the right cry. Cowards one Cowards ALL. SHUT UP SIT DOWN and let the REAL AMERICANS resolve your SCREWUP. COWARDS
My mother grew up in Hardin, and I can tell you that there are few places on earth that would be better suited for detaining these people. If they managed to make what is already a near impossible escape, they wouldn't make it five miles without being spotted. Do you have any idea how badly a Middle Eastern person sticks out in Montana?
I guess it just makes too much sense.
For the life of me I cannot comprehend how stupid people are over this Guantanamo thing. Some two hundred and fifty fellows and we are afraid as squirrels. I want them tried and the innocent set free anywhere they want to go. That includes next door to me. As a Christian I feel indebted to them for the fact that our government held them for so long. I have heard that some were turned in as bounty by the Taliban. It is often referenced that others were picked up off the battlefield, since when is it a unforgiving crime to fight for ones country. Were we so afraid of the Japanese and Germans prisoners after WWII? They were Hell bent on there cause and we had no problem letting them go. Well I guess you could argue that this is the never ending war on terror. If we don't start treating the rest of the world as fellow children of God, this terror war may never end.
Now as for the really bad guys who cannot just yet get over it, they could be held in the max security prisons in this country. As for the request of 80 million dollars by my man Obama, I believe that was the real stumbling block. We fiscal conservatives has a problem with that. So why not take some of that money and convert the camp into a low budget retreat and nature park, if Cuba would consider burying the hatchet. Maybe that would help to patch things up over there. I am not quite old enough to have flown to Cuba and partied like they did in the 50's but I sure hope someday I will have that opportunity. trooperkeeton.com
...and I think that even if we relinquished our lease on it, the Cubans would use it as a military installation too.
Otherwise, I agree with you.We'vew got maximum and super-max facilities in this country that could handle any of those who might be found guilty.
The article and most of the comments here seem to confuse these people with simple criminals who have a sentence to serve and then get out. They are NOT POWs like the axis prisoners in the 40s; they are NOT legal combatants under the Geneva Conventions; they CANNOT be under US legal jurisdiction while in Gitmo as if they were accused criminals; if the WERE POWs, they would not stand trial as it is NOT illegal to be a proper soldier or marked irregular combatant. These murdering thugs are a new type of combatant usually given summary execution historically. I doubt most commenters here have done more than listen to the blitherings of cretins like Oblermann on Gitmo and the killers held there, and never investigated just what actually happens, that is, the actual truth rather than the acceptable truth. Yes, these guys WILL get counsel if they are brought here, they may well be released as civilian law does not deal with their situation well; it is not a matter of escape. And if they DO get out, we can expect to see their handiwork again. Sadly, it will not likely kill the jibbering idiots who boo-hoo and wring their hands and get them released. Too bad.
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