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Here's the person that President Obama has been holding out as an example of a Republican he can work with. Chuck Grassley's latest excuse for his the government is going to "pull the plug on grandma" nonsense. Obama made me do it.

From Think Progress:

Today on CBS’s Face the Nation, Grassley struggled to explain why he made that statement. Clearly uncomfortable with the question, Grassley stumbled over his words and even blamed President Obama for his word choice. He said that even though he knew the House bill “doesn’t intend to” kill senior citizens, he felt that he had a responsibility to nevertheless play to those fears.

[....]

Obama did use the phrase “pull the plug on grandma.” But he used it as an example of the lies his opponents were pushing around to scare the American public. Despite Grassley’s claim, he did not respond in “exactly the same way.” Obama said the right-wing myth was completely baseless; Grassley said that it was definitely something to be feared.

Grassley can't even stop the fear mongering while acknowledging there's no basis for it. Stay classy there Chuck.

Transcript below the fold.

SCHIEFFER: Senator Grassley, you have talked as Senator Conrad has about a bipartisan approach. But you really caught some Democrats off guard, a couple weeks ago, when you said this the other day. Listen to this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GRASSLEY: We should not have a government program that determines you’re going to pull the plug on grandma.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHIEFFER: Now, Democrats say there is nothing in this legislation that would pull the plug on grandma, or even require people to discuss it. Why did you say that, Senator Grassley?

GRASSLEY: I said that because -- two reasons. Number one, I was responding to a question at my town meetings. I let my constituents set the agenda. A person that asked me that question was reading from language that they got off of the Internet. It scared my constituents. And the specific language I used was language that the president had used at Portsmouth, and I thought that it was -- if he used the language, then if I responded exactly the same way, that I had an opposite concern about not using end-of-life counseling for saving money, then I was answering --

SCHIEFFER: All right.

GRASSLEY: And relieving the fears that my constituents had, and from that standpoint, remember, you’re talking about this issue being connected with a government-run program which a public option would take you with. You would get into the issue of saving money, and put these three things together and you are scaring a lot of people when I know the Pelosi bill doesn’t intend to do that, but that’s where it leads people to.

SCHIEFFER: Well, that’s what I was trying to get from you this morning. You’re not saying that this legislation would pull the plug on grandma, you’re just saying there are a lot of people out there who think that it would. Or do you want to say this morning that that is not true, that it won’t do that?

GRASSLEY: It won’t do that, but I wanted to explain why my constituents are concerned about it, and I also want to say that there is an $8 billion cost with that issue, and if you’re trying to save money and you put an $8 billion of doctors giving you some advice at the end of life, doctors are going to take advantage of earning that $8 billion and constituents see that as an opportunity to save some money.

It just scares the devil out of people.

So that ought to be dropped.

And by the way, some newspaper people were saying that we dropped it from the Senate Finance Committee because of the hullabaloo that you just played, and that’s not true. We got this out of our bill a long time ago.

And Senator Conrad will tell you that I was in conversation with people on the Finance Committee way back in March that we were not going to have any of this end-of-life stuff in our bill because it scares people.

SCHIEFFER: All right. That point taken.

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weslen1's picture

Wouldn't it be WONDERFUL if Grassley's OWN doctor threw those last words right back in his FACE and told HIM to find a NEW doctor, IF HE CAN, who won't "take advantage" of HIS end of LIFE issues!
Republicrats TRUE FEAR is that IF health care reform INCLUDES a PUBLIC OPTION they will NO LONGER be able to INFLICT their Right Wing Schizoid fantasy of CONTROL over WOMEN's bodily functions and will have to allow WOMEN to consult with THEIR doctors without Unconstitutional, gender biased RULES forced ON THEM BY Grassleys ILK.
Rethuglican MOTTO:
All the money in the WORLD for KILLING!
NOT ONE THIN DIME for HEALING!
Disagree?
Thugs R Us will SHOOT YOU!

Mr. Green Jeans's picture

Let's start a bill to end healthcare coverage for senators and then see what thay spout.


"Let's talk dirty to the animals"

No problem. Get yourself elected to office and introduce such a bill. We'll all get ourselves elected and vote it into law.


Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.

Pete2069's picture

But if Obama was not made of jelly , he would have been forceful with the public health bill and the single payer from the very start..

Why are we attacking each others for the deceit and BS coming from the republican , blue dogs and centrists WHICH NEVER WANTED OR INCLUDED A PUBLIC OPTION from the very start.

When the republicans had control and run the show they cried in their beer. After American voters gave them the majority in name (only) and their are crying in OUR beer while they pocket the health lobbyist funds.

The democrat party is now spliting their party as Bush did to the nation while he was in office..

United We Stand......Divided We Fall....

Why did we stop attacking the blue dogs , centrists and others which were against the single payer or public option from the very start... We need to fight 24/7 and never yield or give in...


None

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

We've gone all the way from, "We have nothing to fear, but fear itself!"

To, "Fear everything."


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

The ones who are really scared are politicians like Grassley, who stand to lose millions if their beloved health insurance companies go belly up. The rest of us aren't scared, just sick and tired.

liberalNmoderation's picture

And PISSED!

Tyler Durden's picture

politicians figured out it was easier to sell fear, than having to actually work and be accountable for the merits of their policies

Tax the Rich's picture

Oh, I like that. Nice post!


Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.

chervilant's picture

is my favorite of your recent posts.

hit-escape's picture

He admits he's been lying about the bill, however that's okay because his constituents have paranoid fantasies that he is expected to stoke.

"I know the Pelosi bill doesn’t intend to do that, but that’s where it leads people to."

proudlyprogressive's picture

What state does this prick represent???? Can it be recalled? FASCISM!!! took over the USofBLOODYISRAEL!!!! Someone else on this site has pushed the truth, PUKIEISM is a mental illness called sociopathy. US peóns pay for BLOODYISRAEL's national healthcare!!!!

Grassley represents Iowa. He is up for reelection in 2010. He sure seems like a dip shit to me. I can't stand to look at him speak. He such a lying scammer.

I live close to Iowa, can I help vote him out in 2010? ;<)
Would that make it a close vote?

CnLfan's picture

He admits that he understands perfectly well that the House bill does not say what his constituent claimed it does. So to dispel her irrational fear, he naturally responded, "Yes, you should be fearful. I don't want a government program to decide when to pull the plug on grandma either!"

LIAR!

flav1's picture

Waste of time trying to work with guys like Grassley.
Their only goal is to sabotage any health care reform for the American people.

That's what their insurance industry masters pay them for.

Democrats have made the overture to bipartisanship,
now it's time to move on and seriously get something done.

liberalNmoderation's picture

These anti-American fuck faces are lying through their goddamn teeth!

That Mick Piobr's picture

They're lying through their government paid-for dentures.

liberalNmoderation's picture
HA!

Nicely done TMP!

miss_kitty's picture

through gummint paid-for glasses!

linus bern's picture

It becomes clearer by the day. Republicans actually have a secret plan to euthanize old people. It makes complete sense when you realize that they always project their own sins and crimes onto Democrats. This is all just ground work, so when they finally get the ship-granny-to-the-knacker's-yard clause inserted they can blame Pelosi and Obama.

proudlyprogressive's picture

Yes, that's the way it usually works. PUKIES have honed their projections to a fine point ................the one on top of their heads.

curtilingus's picture

Your owl looks dead.

linus bern's picture

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curtilingus's picture

I'm sorry he was just sleeping.

CnLfan's picture

And when they finally regain power and begin to implement their plan,* the press will say this is all just partisan hackery. The Republicans accuse the Democrats, and the Democrats accuse the Republicans.

It's kind of like the way a Republican administration can abuse power and even commit war crimes with immunity because everyone understands the impeachment process is political silliness. One president authorizes torture, another one cheats on his wife. There's really no need to make a federal case of these things.

* I need to be clear that I don't honestly believe the Republicans plan to kill off old people. It's just a metaphor.

linus bern's picture

I actually do think they have a secret plan to kill off old people, and I have yet to see a single Republican come out and explicitly deny it. Until they do I will continue to believe it, and if they do finally deny it, I will still continue to believe it because they are liars, and therefore their adamant denials will simply confirm my fears.

CnLfan's picture

"I wouldn't put it past those liars" is precisely the argument the teabaggers use when Democrats finally explicitly deny it. "I don't believe you."

linus bern's picture

(although it really doesn't seem that farfetched that repubs would want to dispose of the unproductive and blame it on Dems) But as far as your notion that it is unfortunate that I consider every word a Republican says to be a lie; it may be unfortunate, but hardly irrational considering that every word Republicans have spoken for the past 8 1/2 years has been a lie. Starting from the assumption that if they are speaking, they are lying is merely common sense.

linus bern's picture

Various conservative pundits have basically come out and said that if you can't afford healthcare, you don't deserve it and won't get help from the rest. This is certainly a declaration that the less productive should just die, lest they be a burden on society. And can you deny that if healthcare reform looks like it will actually pass, the Republican's will be fighting tooth and nail to install the bureaucracy whose purpose will be to make public healthcare as onerous and humiliating as possible, and to deny coverage to the undeserving?

chervilant's picture

Let me be among the first to suggest the real way that the Angry Group is killing off old people:

I am 53 years old. Because I refused to sell subprime loans, I had to leave the mortgage industry three years ago. My niece encouraged me to teach, something I'd avoided most of my life, because a) the pay sucks, and b) public education is completely F**D up (and NOT just because of NCLB)!

I have now learned that I chose an accelerated certification program in a district that is so bad, almost every participant in the program leaves the district as soon as they've gotten their certification and/or paid for their program!

Now, it's a grim fact that this district also offers marginal insurance options, requiring high co-pays and deductibles. In order to get the MRI I need to find out what's causing my chronic back pain, I'd have to scrounge up almost $800 (I daren't even consider what the specialist would charge to 'authorize' the test, and that's after I pay for the office visit to the doctor who recommends the specialist).

The principal at my very first post forced me to resign (I was given an amalgamation of reasons, including "you're too intelligent to teach these kids") and I've not gotten a single positive response to the myriad applications I've submitted over the summer. The people who run the accelerated program have provided almost no support, and seem complicit in forcing me out of the program (perhaps because I'm a progressive-gasp, choke, shudder!-in the great state of Texas?!).

Now, consider that I'm sitting here blogging because

1) I don't have a new teaching position, or the hope of one. Thus, I've joined the growing crowd of the unemployed.

2) I have no means of addressing my chronic back pain so that I can resume power walking four miles a day and regain my physical fitness. Thus, I've joined the growing crowd of the overweight.

3) I can no longer afford to buy the organic foods I used to eat when I was more physically fit, plus I've just learned that Whole Foods will never get my business in the future (Mr. Mackey can kiss my broadening white hiney, and he can look for me in a local picket line in front of one of his stores).

4) Suicides are up 28% among the chronically out-of-work people who compete in the thousands for every single job opportunity posted (and, I have friends who've articulated this same level of hopelessness!).

I struggle daily with ennui and despair. I can most assuredly identify with those poor souls who thought offing themselves was preferable to facing an uncertain future of no employment and almost sure homelessness.

Thus, I thank the Creator every morning for giving me the strength and the spiritual joie de vivre that keeps me from joining those poor departed individuals for whom suicide was the only option.

BUT, the Angry Group has been integral to the evolution of this challenging economy with its lack of jobs and viable health care. And, I don't think that this is an accidental association. Yes, they want us grannies gone, and they've developed a highly effective strategy for offing us one by one!

So, offer up a prayer of hope for those of us who are sliding down into the abyss of joblessness. Despite what Michelle Malkin asserts, we desperately want to work, and not just because it puts a roof over our heads and food on the table.

As for me, I will not go quietly into the night. I walk when I can, I refuse to let this district deter me from getting my teaching certificate, and I will pack up my belongings and live on the street before I give up!

Oh, and I'll continue to advocate for universal health care for all, because We The People can afford this option and We The People deserve it!

linus bern's picture

Where you can quit your job, get fired, or move to another province, and never for one moment fear you will lose access to healthcare.

This whole thing is becoming more insane every day. How about the people who want nothing more than for Obama to fail stand on one side and shut the fu*k up and all the others get this thing in shape and passed. This is no Elm Street, this is American healthcare.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Paul's picture

Either that or he's using the professed desire for "bipartisanship" as cover for complicity witht the people who want to screw us. I'm beginning to believe that he is indeed working hand in hand with this "example of a Republican he can work with". How can it not have dawned on him that there is no such thing as accomodating sociopaths? You try and make nice with sharks, and the only thing that happens is that you get eaten.

Jesus, Mr.Obama, if you really are sincere, you'd better wise up, but fast. You're getting your lunch eaten by these guys, and in case you haven't noticed, they're farting all over your dinner.

proudlyprogressive's picture

............I'm with you one that one. If O-bought-ma is such a seasoned 'pol' from Chicago, he should be able to read the handwriting on the PUKIE wall. Bipartisonship is Rahm's pony and Rahm is driving the mainstream democratic machine to come to heal on his baby, ohhhhhhhhhhhhh!!BIPARTISONSHIP!!!!

Handypants's picture

Obama ran on NOT being the intransigent, bluster, "my way or the highway" cowboy.

He specifically did so to gain some indy and GOPhers.

He will keep his promise long enough to get a second term. It is his only option.

I think it is shameful the way some on our side have abandoned their hopes and surrendered to the fear being offered through the M$M and some DINO's.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

no longer a proud american's picture

This is another perfect example of obama reaching across the aisie in the spirit of bipatisanship and getting slapped in the face. Call 'em the way they are and allow the chips to fall where they may. stop the cowardly pussyfooting. You won. they lost. end of story.

David762's picture

Very interesting. You think that Obama will actually get a chance to serve a second term?

Ain't. Goin'. Ta. Happ'n.

Between the Birthers. Deathers, Tea-Baggers, GOPpers, DINOs, Blue Dogs, and Rahm Emanuel, Obama has "painted himself into a corner" politically. If the Dead-Ender 20%ers don't actually take the "next step" and pull a JFK on Obama IRL, the RethugliKKKlan aspiration of Obama "meeting his Waterloo" will come true.

The Mid-Term Elections will end liberal progressive hopes for any advance in Health Care Reform, for an Independent Investigation of BushCo war-crimes, treason, and murder, or further economic reforms needed to pull the USA out of the jobless recovery now beginning. I would be very surprised, even shocked, if the Democratic Party would lose less than 40 seats in the House, and less than 5 seats in the Senate.

I would personally prefer to see the Democratic Party lose their Majority to a political advance of the Green Party or the Socialist Workers Party than have the RethugliKKKlans re-emerge as the Majority, but I'm not hopeful about that outcome either. These days I am looking for work somewhere here in the USA, or somewhere in Europe (Canada and Britain have point systems for immigrants that make them non-starters.


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy

ThunderMonkey's picture

If Grassley is the supposed crème de la crème of Iowans, the best and the brightest that they can do... what does it say about the rest of Iowa?


"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas

Mutton Jeff's picture

You're saying that because he's a senator, he's supposed to he the "crème de la crème"? So Roland Burris is the best that Illinois has to offer and John Thune is South Dakota's best and brightest and Jim DeMint is the finest person South Carolina could find. Puh-leez.

Iowa is a great place - significantly better than many states around the country. Don't let this one slime ball convince you otherwise.

boocilla69's picture

alone. I've lived in many, many states and one of the most wonderful places I've ever lived is Iowa. The problem w/Grassley is that he's entrenched. Even the people that support him think he's a rube and a low-brow. My guess is that Iowans are even getting sick of him and with a good concerted effort he could be picked off in the next election. Iowans are good, smart people and he's hardly reflective of the average Iowan, let alone the best and brightest.

Musk's picture

I assure you Thunder, Grassley has stepped in it BIG TIME. He was once an honorable man, but that time has passed. Now he's a god-damn embarassment.


Bruce C Johnson

CnLfan's picture

I've often thought the same thing about John McCain. I wonder how many other Republicans now put Rove above nation?

proudlyprogressive's picture

.............there was and probably still are lots and lots of Iowa jokes. Grassley is from there? It figures. Pretty backward in old I-O-Way.

niwrad428's picture

How long has Grassley been in the senate? After this long, I'm sure he's not uncomfortable speaking in front of people. Here and in his town hall that I watched he seemed so uncomfortable. The only reason I can see for that is that he knows he's lying. His town hall meeting was such a partisan finger-pointing session. His excuse about using the "pulling the plug on Grandma" comment just doesn't fly. How could you possibly site what the President said as the basis for your comments when you are saying it to support a lie that he was debunking?

Was it just me or did he just insinuate that doctors were untrustworthy?

curtilingus's picture

He's for the Single Prayer Plan.

willie's picture

"I know the Pelosi bill doesn’t intend to do that, but that’s where it leads people to.......
Because right wing fearmongers, unstable supporters and repube politician lies have pushed them to that unfounded conclusion for the sole purpose of political gains because to have a fair and intelligent debate would not be necessary due to overwhelming support for health care reform. And a big shout out to the MSM for you added echo chamber support, where would we be without you.

A person that asked me that question was reading from language that they got off of the Internet. It scared my constituents.

It is Grassley's responsibility to relieve those fears by telling them the truth and explain to his constituents that there is nothing to be afraid of, that this provision has been in government programs for a long time. It is there to help them, not hurt them. But noooooo, Grassley tells his constituents to be afraid, be very afraid. This jerk has failed in his job to help the people he represents. I would be very very angry if I was one of his constituents.

He is incapable of doing what you suggest and I don't know if it's because he is too stupid or if he is afraid to because his party would be pissed at him. He needs to be his own man no matter what the hell he believes.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

CnLfan's picture

He not only didn't relieve those fears, he deliberately reinforced them. He knows the provision's there to protect people. Bob Schieffer does, too, but he presents it as "Republicans say it will kill grandma, but Democrats say it won't." Done. End of story. Down-the-middle journalism. Let's go get brunch. We can talk about how the polls show that people still don't understand what's in the bill.

kevsters's picture

If this video doesn't get people to see the true agenda of Fox News, I don't know if anything will. Neil Cavuto basically says Obama's moral obligation should be protecting America's wealth, not the health of all Americans.

These people are unbelievable.

http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2640

chervilant's picture

just WHERE does Cavuto think America gets its wealth?!? Oh, wait, could it be from our innovative and hard-working citizenry?!?

Well, then, wouldn't it follow that our protected health could only result in more wealth?!?!

ahem...lalala..."You say you want a revolution...Well you know...
we all want to change the world" The Corporatists had better beware. The Global Internet Community is transforming our Body Politic exponentially, and the revolution we're seeing in its embryonic stage will not necessarily be fought with guns and chaos.

Reslugs don't care when they bluntly lie right to your face, so who can believe a word that comes out of their lying, liars mouth??

CnLfan's picture

Paraphrasing Schieffer: Senator Grassley, you clearly reinforced the notion that the healthcare reform bill contains provisions for government-sponsored euthanasia, but the Democrats say otherwise. How do you respond?

Way to equivocate there, Bobby. Your job isn't to identify and propagate the truth. This is just another partisan food fight, he-said-she-said, right? To report that Grassley is at best shamefully ignorant, at worst LYING to the voters, would be doing Nancy Pelosi's job, right? The job of a journalist is to present all facts and lies equally. If your viewers can see that you're clearly biased toward the truth, then you won't be seen as objective. That wouldn't be Fair and Balanced.

Amitola's picture

what's right for Iowans and everyone else in America He's a member of The Family - one of the special ones 'chosen by gawd'. He, like Ensign, Coburn, Sanford and all of these loons, has been brainwashed even more than his teabagging constituents.

He just repeats the talking points he was given, lies and all. Anything to keep the peeps in line, and keep the gravy train on the rails.


"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy

curtilingus's picture

"My constituents don't like eclipses. They scare them. That's why I want to blow up the moon."

liberalNmoderation's picture
HA!

Mr Show!!!

Senator Tankerbell..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8eLvKBWrI0

ConcordiaDis's picture

Bob Really dropped the ball on this question.

Grassley says that he was just answering his constituent's question.

Schieffer should have asked him why he didn't answer by explaining that there are no 'death panels' in the bills being offered rather than saying he wouldn't vote for such a bill, implying that the bill did contain death panel language.

We all no why he didn't answer that way, but Schieffer should have held his feat to the fire and forced him to squirm a bit.

The press is supposed to be impartial, but not apathetic.

CnLfan's picture

Schieffer didn't ask that because he and the rest of the press now believe that it would be seen as siding with the liberal Democrats. Journalism has NOTHING to do with reporting the truth anymore. The job of the press is to remain neutral in ALL cases not involving jingoism. Period.

"With me now is a round-earther and a flat-earther to debate the shape of the planet."

[shouting match]

"Well, we'll have to leave it at that. We're out of time. Great to have you both. We should do a followup soon."

Artist formerly known as gempei's picture

GrAsshole is shielding himself with his voters. What a brave man. Don't expect this guy stopping a bullet for you anytime soon.


Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)

Senile old fart Senator Grassley got caught in his own lies.
GrAsshole does sound like the best nickname for this waste of human flesh.


Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years

CnLfan's picture

I wouldn't use it to describe the Chuck Grassleys, however. I think it applies to the "journalists" who deliberately avoid identifying the truth and calling out the Grassleys because maintaining the controversy is better for ratings. ("IS Barack Obama a natural born citizen of the United States???")

In this case, Bob Schieffer behaved like a complete grasshole.

Disturbed Havok's picture

I don't think he realizes that they won't go along with any REAL reform period. They want to gut the bill so much that it will still be called reform by the "Blue Dogs", but really isn't and then Republicans will point to it later and say "see, they failed." This is what they're already trying to do with the stimulus and it's what they will do with this as well.

You don't compromise with people who show you no respect. He needs to learn that Republicans will continue to act this way if they aren't punished for it.

chervilant's picture

Why doesn't Obama keep his message simple and on point? Why doesn't he hammer the same points over and over--especially that the reform we want will actually reduce health care costs dramatically!!

Obama seems mired in react mode! I sincerely hope he takes action in the direction supported by the vast majority of the citizens of this great nation!

nyguy's picture

I understand posting articles from other website or bloggers here, but if I wanted to read from thinkprogress (and I read it daily), I would go to their website. This post is verbatim from them. Can you create your own material? So far you are justifying the stereotype that Chris Matthews has about bloggers.

ctalk's picture
lol

Do you ever have anything to say that is not rude? Be glad they let you post here.


Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein

This from a leader of of the party of "responsibility?"

Craig Schmidt's picture

If the modern GOP possessed even a modicum of integrity, it would debunk the Death Panel canard. But it is not within the conscience or prime directive of the GOP’s members to deviate from the campaign of lies.

As my nonsmoking, organic-food-eating wife reconciled the fact of her impending death at age 44 from a lung cancer, she mentioned that the hospital nun suggested she and I meet to discuss end-of-life care. It was clear from the aggressiveness of Cindy's disease that things were going to go ugly, fast. We held each other and wept inconsolably. Cindy and I were of like mind when it came to desperation treatment in the face of bitter reality. Do Not Resuscitate, however painful the decision. We never got around to drafting a Living Well, though.

Cindy spent the final, hellish week of her life in a hospital, her breathing assisted mechanically, her inestimable pain moderated by all manner of injections. Despite her awful circumstances, she said in a moment of great sorrow, 'I don't want to go.' But then, who does?

When Cindy slipped into the coma, the physicians rushed in and commanded that I decide in an instant whether or not to sustain her life through tube breathing and feeding. I hesitated. Cindy's sister, a public health nurse, standing by my side, whispered, 'Let her go, Craig. That's what she would want.'

I pulled the plug on the love of my life.

Today, I am 55, a widower, still without a Living Will other than this: Do Not Resuscitate.

What leads the worm-ridden minds of the Republican Party leadership and its minions to conclude that reimbursing doctors for discussing openly with elderly patients what Cindy and I decided privately is tantamount to erecting Nazi death camps?

The object of the Festival of Fear is to frighten -- and manipulate -- the elderly about euthanasia, loss of Medicare coverage, higher taxes, illegal immigrants -- you name it. It is detestable.

CnLfan's picture

God bless you, Mr. Schmidt.

chervilant's picture

was just diagnosed with stage four lung cancer. Her doctors have already almost killed her with an overdose of 'chemo' (I suspect it was actually a pain med, and my other sisters misunderstood). She's 72, and has been told that her tumor is inoperable, but that 'the doctors can possibly shrink the tumor to a size that would enable them to remove it.'

Despite her doctors' willingness to 'aggressively' combat her lung cancer, I know I will lose my sister to this horrific disease.

I can only imagine how painful it must be to lose the love of one's life to lung cancer.

By the way, I also have stipulated DNR, and I am an organ donor, despite my intense distrust of the majority of our nations' medical establishment.

miss_kitty's picture

I can't even say.

boocilla69's picture

I work in an ICU in a stroke center and we have to help people decide how to handle life and death matters all of the time. I think our physicians do a wonderful job of laying out all of the options and not pressuring people to decide, unfortunately sometimes a patient's precarious respiratory or cardiac state makes it necessary to decide quickly. It takes a lot of heart and courage to make such a decision and it needs to be done as calmly and thoughtfully as possible. I often tell my husband that I wish I could take him with me so that I could show him what I do and don't want done if circumstances should ever place us in that position.

I'm sickened by the cavalier manner in which the Repubs lie and how they use such an emotional event to scare people into siding with them. These are heart-wrenching, emotionally draining and in many cases the final decision. I had a patient's family member ask me if this ever got easy for me (as if I was the one suffering) and I explained to him that it was never easy to see people devastated, grieving and hurting, but it was gratifying to see people come together and honor a patient's last wishes and help him/her transition as he/she had decided. I would hope that we would all be so lucky as to have everyone know what our final desires entail and know that they would be performed as specified.

oldretire's picture

DUH! another Spineless, Gutless, Inbred coward fails to take accountability for his actions and words. HEY STUPID I have Aunts and Uncles in their 70's 80's and 90's and they think you and your Lying Hate Party are full of SH*T.

One last question knowing you are a proud TEABAGGER to you prefer to look at the persons back or into their eyes while you are getting tea bagged.

no longer a proud american's picture

in reality how much of this nice-nice has this gained for you. you've lost the health initiative though you've acquiesed to the point that the gist of the bill was changed. there is no longer a public option. being nice-nice to the crooks has only shown them that you are weak, you bend to their wishes. for your constituency that placed you in office you have betrayed them. would dennis have done that. i don't think so. you're soft, a kerry in blackface. john kerry allowed the right to make a mockery of his military record. and you, as bright as we all thought you were, you have listened to those around you and they have given you bad advice. if you don't believe it, check the latest polls. you turned out to be just another republican pawn. they didn't win the election, they didn't have to.

Peter G's picture

Haven't seen that one since Vitter velcroed on his last diaper.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

BebeLush's picture

I hope that the voters in Iowa get some common sense and put this fossil out to pasture in 2010.

And why does Obama keep referring to this man as an allie in health care reform? He is no such thing! Christ Obama, your pandering is nauseating and not the reason I voted for you in 2008.

Yellowbird's picture

Blame your sins on your constituents.

Blame your LIES on your constituents.

You let your constituents set your agenda.

And you call yourself a leader?

You, sir, are a coward of the 10th degree.

serge's picture

...never been the brightest bulb in the tanning bed. Iowa can do so much better.

no longer a proud american's picture

we went through coer d'alene just as they were finishing up with a white supremacy rally. my wife and i are brown skinned and we stopped in a park to eat. we kept getting the stink eye from people at the nest table. it was perplexing until we heard about the rally. the scenery there was beautiful but the politics of the area put us off.

JohnnyBravo's picture

How can a man so old act and lie like a 2 year old?


NOBODY 2012

follow the money's picture

fear sells wars, which is good to sell, arms, military industrials, as in right here.

http://leadingtowar.com/

all of you have been sold to fight and die in the name of money.
Surprised?

well, you shouldnt be.

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