Liz Trotta attacks Think Progress for their reporting on the US Chamber of Commerce and their foreign funding. Trotta reads two lines from a New York Times op-ed that Think Progress has already thoroughly debunked as her proof that their reporting isn't to be trusted because they're a "far left" blog. Sadly Liz Trotta wouldn't know what a real journalist looked like if one bit her on the nose.
Here is the response from Think Progress to that NYT's op-ed.
GRAPHIC: How The Chamber Gets Its Foreign Money:
After consulting with the Chamber of Commerce’s chief lobbyist Bruce Josten, the New York Times and the Washington Post publish articles today largely dismissing concerns about the Chamber’s foreign sources of funding as a means to raise money to air political attack ads. Both the Times and the Post articles fail to appreciate the scope of the Chamber’s foreign sources of funding, focusing instead too narrowly on independently-run, foreign-based “AmChams.” The Times casually disregards our report as part of a “Washington spin cycle” (which apparently also involves the New York Times editorial board). [...]
In fact, as ThinkProgress has noted, “AmChams” are only a small piece of the puzzle. Most of the Chamber’s foreign sources of funds come from large multi-national corporations which are headquartered abroad, like BP and Siemens. Direct contributions from foreign firms also are accepted under the auspices of the Chamber’s “Business Councils” located in various foreign countries. [...]
Neither the Times nor the Post appear to have pressed the Chamber to answer two critical questions:
1) How many foreign sources of funding does the Chamber have? The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent received this statement from a Chamber spokeswoman: “[Of] the Chamber’s 300,000 members, a relative handful are non-U.S. based companies.” How many is a “relatively handful,” and how much do they contribute?
2) Are the foreign funds being directed into the same general account that is used to pay for partisan attack ads? Again, the Post’s Greg Sargent pressed on this point. The Chamber, which is running more than $10 million in political advertising just this week (the largest expenditure in one week by an outside group), said, “We are not obligated to discuss our internal accounting procedures.”
You can read all of their recent posts on the US Chamber of Commerce here. Full transcript of Liz Trotta's hackery below the fold.
Wright: The Whitehouse waging a battle this week with the US Department of Commerce over campaign contributions. The Whitehouse charging that some of those contributions come from foreign sources. But those allegations and where they may have come from igniting even more controversy. So how has the media been covering all of this? Author and journalist and Fox News contributor Liz Trotta joins us now with more details, and Liz, what say you about this situation?
Trotta: Well, Kelly remember the days when we heard Hillary Clinton talk about the vast right wing conspiracy? Well it turns out that we might have a left wing conspiracy, in the blogs... the left wing blogs.
This is a story that separates real journalists from bloggers and it's so interesting. The story about the Chamber of Commerce, namely that they were siphoning funds off the political... from taking foreign contributions and then giving them to electioneering came from ThinkProgress.com, a very far left web site and they are a part of, or an arm of The Center for American Progress.
From there it seemed to morph into MoveOn.org, which always is getting into the leftie act and then from there it seemed to turn up on the... in the Senate with Senator Al Franken, Democrat from Minnesota and then from there it went to President Obama who called it a threat to democracy.
Well of course it took the New York Times among other main stream media to point out that none of this was true. Let me read you just a little quote from a New York Times piece putting this into perspective.
...a closer examination shows that there is little evidence that what the chamber does in collecting overseas dues is improper or even unusual, according to both liberal and conservative election-law lawyers and campaign finance documents.
In fact, the controversy over the Chamber of Commerce financing may say more about the Washington spin cycle — where an Internet blog posting can be quickly picked up by like-minded groups and become political fodder for the president himself — than it does about the vagaries of campaign finance.
Well, they led the charge Kelly among mainstream media who really put this story down. The Whitehouse finally had to admit that there was no evidence that the Chamber was doing this.
Wright: Yeah and you know the Chamber of Commerce actually came on our air, representatives of the Chamber of Commerce came on Fax News... Fox News and flatly denied any of these allegations that the president and vice president have charged them with. So what happens after this?
Trotta: Well I think what happens after this, I think all it did was put the Obama administration in more trouble and you know, of course Democrats everywhere because it seems so unseemly, we have this unseemly picture of a president of the United States using unsourced and illegitimate material from left wing blogs.
One would hope that his sources were better than that. One would think that the president would have the best sources in the world. But this really was a faux pas on their part, but kudos to the mainstream media for setting it right and not buying into this left wing conspiracy.
Wright: Well you know we are facing the mid-terms. The president is falling in the polls in terms of popularity. Is this something that could be construed as an act of desperation in terms of trying to make sure that Democrats win?
Trotta: Yes. I think that's absolutely right and you know especially, also a wonderful little detail is that Robert Gibbs, the Whitehouse spokesman as you know, press spokesman again spent all week putting the Chamber of Commerce down. It turns out he worked for a group like this where nobody divulged where the funds went. So there you are.
Wright: Liz Trotta, we thank you for that. Thank you for your report to us as well.
Trotta: Thank you.


I will participate in the "vast left wing conspiracy"
People need to understand the difference between "doing something illegal" and "doing something beyond any sense of morality". The Chamber of Commerce I don't doubt for one second covered their ass legally, they spend all their time doing it they've gotten pretty good at being criminals, even if, and I know it's a stretch, the money they get from overseas didn't directly fund political ads in the state. A GROUP THAT GETS UNKNOWN MONEY FROM OVERSEAS IS SPENDING WITHOUT LIMIT IN OUR ELECTIONS. I don't give a fuck if it's legal, IT'S FUCKING WRONG.
So the right wing traitor organization thinks that attacking the people exposing their foreign treason connections some how makes the evidence of their treason magically disappear.
Amazing. Republicanism at its best.
And I see that the right wing traitors at FOX "News" are the only anti-America loons who are willing to put this Chambers criminal on the air to try to weasel out of being caught and exposed.
Traitors of a feather...
Q: Are the foreign funds being directed into the same general account that is used to pay for partisan attack ads?
A:“We are not obligated to discuss our internal accounting procedures.”
So that'd be a yes?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
How do we know her nose wasn't bit off?
There's a circle with an arrow in it cover that particular facial feature...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Do ya think mebbe she bit her own nose off? Was she lying and like Pinnochio her nose grew and got in the way of her teef?
She woke up with a coyote fugly
And it turned out to be her own mirror?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
have examples of this fallacy. What would I do without you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
My my , they don't like being exposed and called out do they ? So they go on Fox and attack the whistle blower , what a surprise .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
but they should be and they should be asked daily why they think they shouldn't have to explain where their money comes from.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Remember how seriously the press took the reich-wing accusation that Clenis was accepting Chinese money through an intermediary?
Why the switch-around now?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
doesn't it?
Hasa Diga Eebowai
“We are not obligated to discuss our internal accounting procedures.”
Isn't that just a variation of the Mafiosi on trial who says, "I'm taking the fifth"?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXE94nkpZqw
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
us into slavery to get into power? The answer so far seems to be yes. Until they stop using anon money I will not vote republican since I can't be sure what they promise their donors for the money.
So what is she against
Thinking or progress?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Those left wing liberals at the N.Y. Times.
The same liberal paper that supports so Called "Free-Trade" agreements for the purpose of destroying workers, supports mandatory fascist style corporate indoctrination of "testing" in the schools, employed Judith Miller, and now blames the American worker for the corporate fascist GOP DLC ream-job the politicians gave to them.
They are about as left wing as Rahmabama.
And the Washington Post? The paper that brought down Nixon, would today be trying to re-instate him in office if he were still alive.
Man, the right wing bazzoro just keeps on coming.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Every dim across this land should be screaming about this but they haven't and they will not. I'm with you watch out. It is so wrong and already it's a given this will now remain as the norm. Fuck the chamber and the locals as well.
Fax frames the issue so that foreign funds seem miniscule at best and completely ignoring the corporate take-over of public discourse. The dims are angling for their cut of global corporate lucre so that both they and the repugs will get fair and balanced shares and will be competitive in vying to sell out the country. The corporate sphere manipulates the mooches.
I thought she was fired for joking that Obama should be killed?
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
Of course you're not obligated to disclose the auditing procedures which allow you to keep foreign money separate from domestic. But there can be no honest reason why you shouldn't. Don't you want to remove a shadow from yourselves and the candidates you support? Don't you want to show publicly that you believe in and are following the law? Wouldn't that make you look good?
But if you refuse, on the other hand, then apparently your reasons for dodging are anything but honest. Which means that in saying, "We are not obligated…" you are in effect pleading the Fifth Amendment in order to avoid incriminating yourselves.
The risk I saw early on in this "foreign money" line of attack, was that it opened the door for the Chamber and its bandit-allies to concentrate on this, neutralize it, and then....voila....no more talk about the real danger to our democracy: all those undisclosed donations/donors to the Chamber's attack ads.
And by extension, all the other astroturf special interest groups funded by billionaires and corporations...
In other words, it's a great smokescreen, but one that will work to the benefit of the corruption of our system
by DOMESTIC abuses much more than foreign ones.
US Department of Commerce?
It's not all or nothing.
Yes - I caught that one too, early in the broadcast. An intentional slip up by FauxNEWS to intentionally
to take some attention away from the US CHAMBER of Commerce ? Hmmmm ? ? ?
Whenever someone tells you that the NY Times is the authority and that "both liberal and conservative lawyers agree", that means they are lying desperately and are relying on their big guns by putting the NY Time's name on the line and calling favors from Democrats they have influence over or who are just wolves in sheep's clothing. She does not go over the facts, but relies on "experts" and "authorities" and the reputation of the NY Times, who has been busted lying again and again, most famously for taking us to war in Iraq.
from the Villagers. They are all saying, "The White House said this with no proof." Even the so called liberal pundits. They have been given their orders by their corporate masters and they will not budge.
As an aside - out of curiosity I clicked on an Impeach Obama Survey. Turned out to be Howard Phillip's Conservative Cacaus. I voted the opposite of what they want one to say - but when I tried to vote it wouldn't let me vote without a contribution. Jesus - how very Republican - you gotta pay to play. Ashholes.
you voted they way they want you to...still have to pay?
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine"
Let's trot out that old 'conspiracy theory' malarkey to discredit the fact-based contention that foreign companies are funding GOP attack ads! While we're at it, let's just ignore the fact that the frikkin' US CHAMBER OF COMMERCE is systematically betraying the American Worker!
Wow, Liz... your association with FOX discredits you before you even open your lying mouth.
http://clevelandssecretclub.blogspot.com/2010/10/1984-black-is-white-and-white-is-black.html
as my left ball.
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