Boehner: No Federal Regulatory Agency Needed for Selling Insurance Across State Lines
Unbelievable. Everyone knows the Republicans think we need absolutely no regulation of anything what so ever but they generally don't say it out loud this bluntly. Of course we didn't get any follow up from David Gregory asking him how being smart has anything to do with making insurance companies behave.
Gregory: You don't want government in charge of health care, yet you're a supporter of portable health insurance; the ability to take health insurance across state lines, but I thought the Republicans were states' rights guys and didn't want -- because you'd have to have some kind of Federal regulatory agency to monitor that kind of portability, wouldn't you?
Boehner: No, you wouldn't have to. What we're saying is the American people ought to buy health insurance across state lines. They ought to buy health insurance where they get the policy that they need for themselves and their family at the best price.
Gregory: And there wouldn't have to be some sort of Federal regulatory agency...
Boehner: Well no! That's the whole point. The President said I'm for that but you know there has to be some bureaucrat in Washington that needs to make sure that this is done fairly. The American people are smart enough to do this on their own.
I wonder why no one has thought of it before?
And to think, I could have had a V8.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The McCain plan
http://www.slate.com/id/2191699/
What could happen is that the health insurers move to a state with the least regulation, just like the credit card industry. While it may be that no one holds a gun to your head to get credit cards, there is this issue that hospitals seems to charge the uninsured 3 to 4 times as much as they charge an insurance carrier for the same exact procedure, which, for many, "mandates" that they have insurance, people that could otherwise be self insured.
boehner, go f#ck yourself since you are
f#cking everyone else....maybe you could
explain why that tan looks a lot like the
shit you are throwing at the American public.
but you mother f****** do everything you can to stop us from origanizing to so we can't get anything done.
because everyone knows how honest and fair insurance companies are. They would never look for ways to exploit that situation.
Hey boner, I think your tan is fading. Time for another go round at Orange Julius.
me-oww!
Free and open markets promote business growth and more hiring. Then five years down the road it explodes in "our" faces. The lower and middle class suffers while the big CEO's rake in millions. Sounds like a good idea to me. Worked great in the banking industry.
Why are most Americans so stupid and cannot see the connections between the GOP and the rich?
is intended to be a factual statement
Republican arguments about free markets vis-a-vis health care reform completely ignore the negative effects to GDP caused by employees being locked into current employment by the current health care non-system. If potential entrepreneurs could leave their large employers and still provide coverage for their families, it would lessen the risk they would incur.
Isn't he just the worst?
Always has the same dense look about him.
Duh.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Hope this doesn't violate anything
Also, isn't it funny how he smokes and must think, "Hey if I get a tan I'll look healthy"
Reminds me of when Jesus talked about whitewashed coffins with all manner of filth inside them.
Wouldn't they have to get rid of the McCarran-Ferguson Act?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
were really great on the vaudville circuit.
"The American people are smart enough to do this on their own."
I loled!
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
Because he knows how stupid Americans are and willing to believe his bulllshit.
is intended to be a factual statement
Some Americans are just too busy to read a twenty page, small print legalese document.
Sure.........in between watching American Idol and Fox News.
were smart enough to do this on their own, wouldn't the states already allow it to draw more business to the state?
quit with that makin' sense kind of talk!
the idea that republicans are opposed to regulation is absurd. either the author doesn't pay attention, or is lying. republicans (and big corporations) love regulation because it prevents competition and enriches those campaign coffers. there never was "deregulation" of much of anything in the 1990s. in fact, the bush administration presided over massive expansion of regulation, which is part of why the economy sucks so hard right now.
what turnip truck did you just fall off of.
He's right, but primarily it's regulations to control the entry of new competitors for existing corporations.
Also they used to push health and safety regulations so they could refuse imports, especially of foods, and avoid accusations of imposing tariff quotas, and instigating tariff wars, until they essentially merged with those foreign competitors as well.
However, they fight regulations that control their own behavior.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Regulations fell during dubya's "watch" or simply weren't enforced.
But a record number of new regulations cam from boosh hw, particularly from dan quayle's, Council for Competitive Fitness, that were then stripped out by Al Gore's Reinvention of the Government as an impediment.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I shoulda said, "He's right, but primarily it's regulations to control the entry of new competitors for existing industries."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
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You only prove exactly what I've been saying all along about Repubicans. I noticed it first in 2002 while watching the lies come out of GWB and his administration. Whatever a Repubican speaks it's 180 degrees from reality. It's the only thing they have left. Sad really when you think about it because people have become wise to that tactic and not just on C+L.
Gee Willikers Boner dag gum it yer right as usual. Say could you help me up I seem to have fallen off the back of this here turnip truck.
Haa-Haaa!
Umm you're right stefminus except for that little ol bank deregulation, but that probably didn't have any effect at all did it?
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act.
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MORON!
Quoting stefminusabrain-"The Republicans love regulation." Sir you are hallucinating.
To this day, people don't talk about this horrible piece of legislation. Phil Grahm got a nice job at a Swiss bank out of the deal tho.
Well, it shouldn't even count then, should it?
/snark
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
...if I try to buy tobacco from another state, I am still charged my state's tax. If a Californian buys a car up here in sales tax free Oregon, they have to pay California a sales tax when they register it at home. What's to stop states from having a "cost gap" tax?
Medicare for all. It's the way to go....
You Sir are being sensible --
please stop before the sensible spreads like wild fire!
to strip away your dignity and compromise your humanity. It’s just one more step on the way to reducing you to herded cattle.
In D.C. there is a plague of lawyers at work to create a comfortable distance between the fools who want the truth and the venal, Armani-suited footpads who prefer the rewarding environment of lies.
Boners one the useful idiots.
... and he is trying to seel me on some plan? Go back to selling encyclopedias ya a$$clown!
I'm on my 6th Yuengling Bock, but seriously. This guy is bitching about the government being involved with health care, but I'm assuming he has a government health care plan, right? Holy.Fuck.
Not the American voters but the CEO's of the insurance companies. They will be smart enough to donate to his campaigns so that he will look the other way.
It seems that genetic testing is in order for dufus. He is a great deep freeze. How does the Repubs grow this hybrid. Amazin.
Sen. Boehner, I am with you. I believe that tanning salons should not be regulated either.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
or has MTP devolved from "just barely tolerable" to "weekly festival of teh stoopid?"
It's genius really. McCarran Ferguson explicitly grants States the right to regulate insurance, not the federal government. By allowing insurers to go across State lines, the State it moves to will still regulate it, just not as thoroughly as the State it moved from. McCarran Ferguson does not say which State must regulate the State population's insurance, it's not even implied. Maybe because it's such a obvious detail?
I'll tell you why: because insurance companies want every opportunity to re-evaluate your health status i.e. pre-existing conditions. If you move, even sometimes within a state, you have to re-apply and can be denied coverage.
This prevents many people from ever relocating, because they know if they had to re-apply they would be denied.
The insurer would be regulated by the State with the LEAST regulation, i.e., the most beneficial to them.
Insurance companies don't want portability - which I assume would come with being able to sell across state lines - portability is not good for insurance companies because, like I said, it cuts down on the opportunity to deny coverage when people have to re-apply
Ridiculous!
its in the constitution
therefore, boner just said he doesnt believe in the constitution
which he swore an oath to uphold
shoot him on the spot for being a traitor to his country
make me king...and ill do it for you
to revolt.
If the American people are dumb enough to believe they're "smart enough to do it on their own," it means they're dumb enough not to understand that it has nothing to do with being "smart enough" in the first place. Individual Americans aren't going to be able to compete successfully against the wealth and corruption of American health care corporations unless there are rules and powerful referees to make sure the corporations play fairly.
Boehner is a corporate tool and an idiot -- quite the combination.
I have a bridge in brooklyn I would like to seel you.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
Pretty orange colour.
far left loon >.<
I read Boehner's comment differently.
It seemed to me he was suggesting that the regulations "of the state the insurance was purchased in" would regulate the insurance sold.
Of course, this is beyond stupid, because now Mr. "States Rights" is arguing that one states' insurance regulations can supersede the regulations of another.
And, of course, watch the insurance companies flock to The Marianis Islands if they get their way.
PS: I'd also like to point out AGAIN that there is a possible "side-effect" here, that if one state is mandated to recognize the laws of another, they end up doing the gay-marriage movement a HUGE favor. :)
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
Knowing how often Papa Loompa has stated an opinion or position that is So the polar opposite of the truth (free of any fact) say something as patronizing as "The American people are smart enough to do this on their own." ...Get ready to get screwed.
When will these incompetent BOZO learn DUH this Idiot and his Fumbling Bumbling Morons are what got us here so lets IGNORE this talking TURD.
Anything short of FEAR and Hatred isn't even worth listening to and I wonder does this BOZO have clearance from Osama bin Laden to be talking about this,everyone knows that the only thing this Fear and Hate mongers talk about are LIES and DISTOZRTIONS.
what a friggin tool.
No crap. We are smart enough to purchase ANY product at the best price, but not powerful enough to stop the companies from colluding on prices and denial of policy approval and/or payment.
Is his inevitable skin cancer covered? That's what I really want to know.
This guys name is pronounced "Boner".
What is with rebups and sex names in politicians they pick?
Bush, Dick, Boner? Repressed much?
Why should we listen to these (named after) tools?
did a funny bit where he talked about "COLON" powell, George HW "Bush" and "Dick" Cheney. "Sounds to me like someone's getting ****ed!"
"Cross state lines to purchase insurance."
OK, when you find that the insurance company in the next state has colluded with the insurance companies in your state to keep rates high, you go to the next state and the next state (and on and on) and find the same thing.
Result - you end up in either the Atlantic Ocean, the Pacific Ocean, Canada or Mexico.
Another great Repug solution. :)
Man ,this is a real shocker of a story !
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
to figure out insurance company policies, and there are a few I'm sure, find out how badly they're getting screwed.
Face it, the conservatives really don't care about protecting American citizens...from anything or anyone.
Next is buying health insurance from India, China, Saudi Arabia.
Yeah, across Country's borders.
They will set up in the Cayman Islands maybe
Insurance from China. That's where we get those excellent lead laden toys and food....
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
People of the (insert correct number here) Congressional Electoral District of Ohio, I beg of you. Please do not return the Orange Boner to Washington again.
Stupid must really run rampant in that E.D. to keep voting for this piece of shite.
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
... is the reason I don't watch MTP anymore. A shell of the POS he used to be.
Boner and the Republicans have given me the choice of any one of the insurance companies; all of which have the cards stacked against me.
an insurance policy from another state. The insurance comps won't sell a policy not authorized to be sold in your state. The Orange Man should know this. A better idea would be, in the best interest of budget restraint, to eliminate health insurance for all on capital hill and force them to purchase on the so-called competitive market. Obama should have included this in his new budget. Maybe then these tools would learn what their citizens deal with in the real world.
So since I live in Texas, according to the Republican's plan, I will have to call 50 Health Insurance companies in 50 different states, and then I will find the best deal?
Yeah, right, who wants to do that kind of work?
Or that kind of phone bill?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Boehner's response is predictable, but I'd ask David Gregory and NBC where have they been on this GOP talking point. For months, Republicans have been putting out the idea of the sale of insurance across state lines, but putting aside Gregory's vague question and lack of follow up, I have yet to see any significant or substantive reporting on this issue.
State insurance commissioners are commonly elected, and for the most part, insurance companies are quite successful at getting their people into a position where they obtain favorable regulation. Particularly in small states, insurance companies are likely to be for the most part unregulated. Not only do you have issues like what is offered through a policy, but what of financial requirements (reserves, etc.) and fair claims practices?
Gregory's question was weak and he failed to provide any follow up that would have required Boehner to defend and explain his position. WEAK!
Boehner clearly has no idea how much state insurance regulations work.
My insurance company took three months to approve shoe inserts that cost $150. I had to threatened to call the state insurance commisoner to get them to react. Most companies left to their own devices will not act in good faith, on a regular basis.
Had a girlfriend back in the 90s who was a restaurant health inspector. She told me that if I knew how they cut corners, I'd never eat out again. Then the county started a grading program, and the majority of the eateries began to the right thing, for fear of fines, given them by a agency.
across state lines. why do we need regulations to buy insurance across state lines?
btw, regulation isn't free. it's going to have to be paid by someone, and invariably that someone is going to be taxpayers. so how does establishing yet another layer of bureaucracy actually help? how about busting their anti-trust exemption for starters?
we do need strong anti-fraud laws with meaningful fines. but i don't understand this liberal knee-jerk reaction that everything must be regulated.
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