Ryan Calls Contraception Coverage an 'Accounting Gimmick'
House Budget Committee Paul Ryan (R-WI) on Sunday said that the Obama's administration move to accommodate the Catholic Church's concerns about covering contraception for women was just an "accounting trick."
The White House said last week that it would change proposed rules requiring religious hospitals and universities to cover birth control, instead mandating that insurance companies provide those services.
"This thing is a distinction without a difference," Ryan told ABC's George Stephanopolous. "It’s an accounting gimmick or a fig leaf. It’s not a compromise. The president's doubled down."
"They're treating our constitutional First Amendment rights as revocable privileges from our government, not as inalienable rights from our creator," he added.
"This is not going to force the Catholic institutions to pay for the coverage," Stephanopoulos noted.
"It's really an accounting trick," Ryan insisted. "It forces the insurance company that they have to pay to do the coverage. So instead of making the institution itself, it forces the insurer -- and a lot of these Catholic institutions are self-insured. And all insurers under this rule must provide these mandated benefits."
Paul continues to oppose contraceptive coverage on the grounds that the new compromise is an "accounting gimmick" by citing Church owned institutions that self insure AND don't already provide contraceptive coverage for their employees who are of a different faith.
I'm trying to imagine just how many institutions that tiny minority includes?
So NO ONE should receive contraceptive coverage (not just church-owned institutions, but if you listen carefully, they oppose insurance companies being "mandated" to do ANYTHING) just to appease this fractional minority of church-owned businesses that oppose contraception coverage?
I'm waiting to hear the actual number of institutions this actually accounts for, since many (most?) already DO cover contraception for their non-church employees.
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..Ryan's whole existence on Earth is nothing but a gimmick.
So Ryan is one person who knows from gimmicks.
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Ryan on TV I think it must be Eddie Munster all grown up.....it's the hair....and the freaky ideas.
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So it's sort of like the Catholic Church, then? The world's second-biggest tax dodge.
The mainstream corporate media is really pushing the contraceptive, birth control, abortion, gay marriage issues as the run up and months to the election come about. They do it every four years or so. It's stupid and insincere. It's a pattern.
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side note: I'd like to see C&L post zakaria this week ripping romney on the poor.
...my guess is that most women of the age to use birth control wouldn't agree that this is an accounting trick.
This is a losing issue for Republicans.
Is there a coherent sentence in there somewhere?
require him having a coherent brain.
HTF do these people get elected?
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tell me I'm not going insane in this gawd forsaken country! Every sentence that exudes from the orifrices of these asswipe repugs is like listening to a preacher babble nosensical bible verses.
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Their homeworld was a place called Earth, located in an uninteresting part of the galaxy. They had an expression: pride goeth before a fall. Their pride was their undoing. I know. I was there....They did not listen, of course. Arrogant men never do.
Seriously. If the democratic party can't hit this one out of the park, it really should fold its tent and start over.
that there are courses being taught in lunatic asylums on how to become a conservative politician.
Their homeworld was a place called Earth, located in an uninteresting part of the galaxy. They had an expression: pride goeth before a fall. Their pride was their undoing. I know. I was there....They did not listen, of course. Arrogant men never do.
it reduces the deficit not just a corrupt accounting trick ? These people really suck on women's rights and I hope the Dems get 95 percent of the female vote. I also hope seniors see what's happening and do the same. The Repubs party needs to go the way of the Whigs.
Paul Ryan (R-WI) has a republican head.
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Like 2 wars of choice were off the books.
And the half trillion dollar Medicare Part D give-away to the drug companies was also off the books.
And the two tax cuts for the rich were off the books.
But Ryan voted for all of them.
So it's about time to tell him to shut up and go away.
(Off the books)
these dicks keep spouting...that goes for the female 'dicks' on the right too.
Obviously, they have not thought about how the insurance costs for the insurance companies is LESS to cover contraception than any pregnancy is. Even if there isn't any complications from them.
But they have got to HAVE something to argue about, I guess.
ALL religious institutions should lose tax-exmpt status. NOW. They don't want the 'govt telling them what to do ...but they sure don't mind telling the govt what it's supposed to do...that is if it's a Democratic President in office. Especially a black one.
somebody get this 'Rapture' thing going....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese....
sorry.
He should know about accounting gimmicks.
Sometimes I don't understand you guys. Ryan is right. This is an accounting trick. Let's say there's a Catholic-owned hospital that contracts with a few different insurance companies to provide coverage for their employees. The insurers are going to include the cost of contraception in that coverage because of this little trick, even if there's a roundabout way of the individuals getting the coverage. Ryan is right. It's silly, and it's a shell game. You needn't disagree with absolutely everything a Republican says.
BUT...
Ryan's also a jerk-off, like most of the Republicans on this. The fight here is individual religious freedom vs. corporate religious freedom. Yeah, that's right, I'm calling the Catholic Church a corporation. If they want to run a secular business (like a hospital) with secular employees, they're not just a church any more. Republicans want to make this a religious freedom fight. Let them. It is a religious freedom fight, one that the Democrats should make about the individual being forced to obey another's religion.
(Personal note: I work for a hospital system that was aggressively taken over by Catholics recently. People have quit because of the loss of womens' services. I'm very near to quitting myself.)
They were just involved in a merger with the ancient Catholic Providence. Swedish, a secular hospital, made an announcement almost immediately that in deference to their new partner, they'd no longer do terminations.
Too bad they consider their new partner to be more worthy of deference than their patients.
BTW, you give these assholes an inch, tell them they're right ONE TIME, and they'll take a mile, deciding you meant to throw your lot in with them. That's why the resistance.
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No, it's not in Seattle. That makes me wonder how many hospitals around the country Catholics are buying up. Maybe they're trying to monopolize, shut down contraception for good.
I don't agree with this "giving an inch" approach. To me, it looks shrill and unreasoned. Let the conservatives look shrill and unreasoned. There's no reason to go there if you have the good argument on your side.
...and they're going to take a mile anyway.
coverage, they can find another company that denies it. It is called free enterprise. And good luck keeping their current employees.
If the Bishops don't want their female employees or male spouses to have access to birth control they can fire them. We all work under "at will" employment agreements.
Then they can try to find quality employees who will agree to give up birth control or pay out of pocket.
And good luck to them in filling their vacancies.
If the women and spouses willingly give up insurance covered birth control and start popping out kiddos at the rate of one ever 18 to 24 months for a decade or two the Bishops should jump with holy joy having their share of the premiums going up in relation to the medical costs of all those kiddos.
That's not an accounting trick that is the open market place at work.
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