McCain: 'Thank God' Rumsfeld was fired
There's no love lost between Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and President George W. Bush's former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
The senator from Arizona gave a terse response Thursday to claims made in Rumsfeld's new book, Known and Unknown.
In the book, Rumsfeld had claimed McCain had a "hair-trigger temper" and "a propensity to shift his positions to appeal to the media."
"I respect Secretary Rumsfeld," McCain began by telling ABC's George Stephanopoulos.
"He and I had a very, very strong difference of opinion about the strategy that he was employing in Iraq, which I predicted was doomed to failure," he continued.
"Thank God he was relieved of his duties and we put the surge in. Otherwise, we would have had a disastrous defeat in Iraq," McCain said.
It's not the first time McCain has taken his criticisms of Rumsfeld public.
"We are paying a very heavy price for the mismanagement -- that's the kindest word I can give you -- of Donald Rumsfeld, of this war," he said while running for president in 2007. "I think that Donald Rumsfeld will go down in history as one of the worst secretaries of Defense in history."
When these two hissing, angry snakes turn on each other. Couldn't happen to nicer or more deserving people.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
No, it's just sad and annoying and I wish they would just keel over and die so it could stop.
Ho Chi Cong but what the Hell's he talking about he had a strong difference of opinion in Iraq. Rewritting history, Bud?
As I remember this creep, Mr. Magoo, robber of old folks Saving & Loans, wanted to nuke Iran in the early 80's and nuke Iraq in the early 00's. This guy is beyond wreckless, he's insane!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U39zae4IxUA
does anyone care what he thinks about anything? Always remember who inflicted Palin on this country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmH6oXE77jk
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Always remember the POW that didn't want any more POW's or MIA's to be found so a few people could have some closure. Also claimed malignment of some General or other. (Which is really weird to watch.)
Too bad we can't fire McCain....
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
McCain just might be right about something. Rumsfield may go down in history as the worst defense secretary we've ever had.
Rummy is right too; Mcain has a hair-trigger temper and changes positions on the issues depending on shifting popular opinion. It's a floor wax...No! It's a desert topping. They're both right.
Rumsfeld should be in jail with the rest of his PNAC buddies who lied us into war or worse!!
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
SMACK!
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
"Get off my lawn you whippersnappers!"
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Luckily, Iraq became such a great American victory and is doing so well.
Idiot.
Hmmm... the senile and inept calling out the evil and corrupt.... gotta be a country song in that, somewhere...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Only with the addition of a hound dawg
And a horny strumpet.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And a bottle...
And a truck... gotta be a truck in there...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
The cowboy's a vegan.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
BTW, what am I still doing here?
I feel like Ricky Gervais at his second Golden Globes.
I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?
McCain is right.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Broken clock and all...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
God was relieved of His duty?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
his remarks about McCain's vindictive temper and his flip flops for political advantage may be the most honest statements in his whole book.
Tale of two failures…
Rumsfeld: Topple Sadaam, we’ll hand out silk stockings and bonbons, and be treated as liberators…
FAIL!
McCain: Nuke the mother fuckers, kill them all, and we’ll be treated as liberators…
FAIL!
Who actually buys books like Rummy's? Are there that many right wingers who can read?
CaliforniaMike blogs at All Voices and at his own blogs, http://www.mikerappaport.net/onevoice and at http://oneminutewithmike.blogspot.com.
and all the right wing think tanks. Then they give out free copies to everybody who donates money to the party and/or various campaign groups.
I read recently where Costco had a glut of Sarah Palin books that they were trying to sell at half-price. Maybe if they priced them at 10 cents, they might move a little faster.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Remember, every election the GOP gets consistently almost half of the votes. There are millions of idiots out there. And these books do have a large audience.
It is scary, but there are literally millions of idiots who devour these books and their message of lunacy like it was mana from the heavens. That is why those "left behind" books were such best sellers.
So yes, these books do indeed sell. Wether we like that or not however...
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
to needy parts of the globe needing toilet paper...
wem
reading between the lines... you'd be fabricating your own book on what rumsfeld didn't say...
wem
''The GOP agenda: furthering their personal stranglehold on all things powermad and avaricious.That's not to say they won't try to tackle some issues. Republicans, Boehner & Co care very much about nailing down enormous tax cuts for wealth...y people, preventing education reform, gridlocking Congress at every turn, denying the fact that seven billion rapacious humans have an effect on climate change, and blocking as much newly available health care for 30 million Americans as possible. And so on.But truly, the issues themselves don't matter. For what Boehner & Co value most is not so much making any sort of significant change in American culture, but rather, in keeping the anger, the dread, the paranoia alive.''
intro to a saturday night creature feature...
wem
when one War Criminal criticizes the other. Off to the Hague with both of them.
And what does that say about our pathetic media who continually have McCain on the airwaves!
Thank god you weren't elected President!
..with pasty old white guys who have no problem engaging in illegal wars for profit?
Why no threads about the renewal of the patriot act?
Why no talk about trying to make parts of the Patriot act being made permanent?
Why no talk about how just one senator could filibuster any part or all of the patriot act?
Was "why no threads" a rhetorical question?
That subject may be broached briefly in some other unrelated thread, but no one may mention That Name that cannot be mentioned, that dare not be mentioned ... who stands to benefit the most from the ever-increasing power of the Unitary Executive, nor to cast aspersions upon those politicians that we are supposed to cheerlead for, and of course vote for, because they are "less evil", all while they enslave us.
And if you have been watching MSM over the past 10 years, you are not supposed to notice, mention, or blog about the recurring coincidence that incidents of "domestic terrorism" are always nipped in the bud by our glorious Federal "Big Brothers & Sisters". Always one or more Federal agents are acknowledged who bravely penetrated this or that bloodthirsty terrorist organization (who without the assistance of the Feds could not rent a truck, plan an assault, build a working bomb, raise funds, or maintain operational security. Keep the fear alive.
The war (on Drugs) is not meant to be won or lost, but to be waged continuously."
The war (on Terror) is not meant to be won or lost, but to be waged continuously."
(My apologies to the the family and memory of George Orwell, without whose writings ("1984") this bit of hacked verse could not have been possible.)
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
What exactly would a 'defeat' look like? Is it worse than what's happening now? Would D.C. have to surrender?
No just become AC-DC.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv24N8H1KyI
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
But not until after the election?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
What's funny is that they were both Navy pilots. Except that McCain put more of the taxpayers aircraft on the ground prematurely than Rumsfeld. But, they're both pricks in my book.
OUCH?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"Fired"?
And here I thought he left in order to spend more time with his family. Who knew?
"Gently let go". There was a clamor from a lot of fronts to get rid of him. Of course, he got to take all those cushy government perks with him.
AND, added bonus, he got to write a book. Being a public servant is very lucrative in Washington.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
being a wrong-wing traitor is more lucrative, apparently...
wem
McCain's solution for victory in Iraq was to bomb Iran.
And I'd just add:
"Thank God McCain/Palin are not in the top slot!"
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
That's also what his wife said to him.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
We really don't need McSame to tell us, years later, that Rummy was a complete disaster. We'd figured it out just fine on our own.
"Thank God he was relieved of his duties and we put the surge in. Otherwise, we would have had a disastrous defeat in Iraq," McCain said. ---
So, by McCain's logic, what's happened in Iraq is some kind of victory or triumph? If so, I'd hate to see what getting your ass handed to you looks like.
...I CRAP bigger than you.
There's no surprise that conservatives use the same "poison the well" tactic with each other that they use with liberals. When charged with some sort of offense, instead of answering the charges or denying them, they go on the offensive and try to put the accuser on trial. Notice how McCain never answered the accusation that he has a hair-trigger temper or that he flip-flops depending on what he thinks will be popular?
The tactic is, when accused of wrong doing, bristle with indignation, ignore the charges and go on the attack, hoping that in "poisoning the well" you can distract others from taking the charge seriously.
An officer that I served under went to OCS with a guy who became a pilot. He served with McCain in a squadron after McCain came back from Viet Nam. He said that he was the biggest asshole that he ever served with. The stories of his temper are true.
Afghanistan
McCain: 'Thank God' Rumsfeld was fired
Rumsfeld:'Thank our lucky stars McCain lost to Obama'
"...McCain had a "hair-trigger temper" and "a propensity to shift his positions to appeal to the media."
That strikes me as an accurate summary of McCain. It must be why McCain doesn't like him as he has never liked it when people speak the truth about him. It is nonsense like this (amongs literally hundreds of examples) that makes you glad that he didn't win the presidency.
And so, at long last, each is telling the truth... about the other.
- Pretzelogic in Philly, PA
And now for some feedback: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
even the apparent truth is a gross distortion...
wem
gross, at least, is a given.
- Pretzelogic in Philly, PA
And now for some feedback: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
listen to the clip
Best thing that could have happened to this worthless sack of human waste is that he took wild chances and got shot down over North Vietnam and became "the son of a high ranking admiral-POW". It made him instant hero for the rest of his life.
What a sad, sad joke. This jerk off was pretty accurately described by rummy, as much as I dispise that war criminal.
mCancient = clown of clowns
rummy = war criminal STILL on the loose
mccain = barely functional moron, rumsfeld = war criminal, you decide...
wem
So it's all God's fault the rummy wasn't fired sooner?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The Iraq war was a terrible idea from start to finish...an utter debacle.
McCain to Rummy:
"You were only going 55 MPH when you drove us off the cliff you tired POS...you should have been going at least 90!"
Is the Iraq War over? Did we win? When was the ticker tape parade? You mean that there are no more bombs going off daily in the markets of Karbala?
One of us has been asleep in an opiated stupor for the past 5 years but, unfortunately it isn't me John.
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