Brit Hume: Tiger Woods must become Christian to be forgiven
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Buddhism is inferior to Christianity when it comes to forgiveness of sins, according to Fox News pundit Brit Hume. Tiger Woods should turn his back on Buddhism and become a Christian to be forgiven for cheating on his wife, Hume told Fox News' Chris Wallace Sunday.
"The extent to which he can recover seems to me depends on his faith," said Hume. "He is said to be a Buddhist. I don't think that faith offers the kind of redemption and forgiveness offered by the Christian faith. My message to Tiger is, 'Tiger turn to the Christian faith and you can make a total recovery and be a great example to the world.'"
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Buddhism predates Christianity by centuries
And they had something of a mission field at the time
Throughout the Roman Empire
The odds are if there was a Jesus he was an Essene
And they seemed heavily influenced by both Buddhists
And Zoroastrians with their cosmic battle between the Children of Light of Ahura Mazda, and the Children of Darkness of Aryman
And came from Persia
Now known as Iran.
Christians are always ignorant of their own religion. Want to know something about Christianity? Ask a Buddhist, Muslim, Jew or an atheist.
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exactly correct, in any caes religion is the problem, not the solution.
and Brit Hume. also the problem here.
Human nature is the problem. Religion is just a convenient scapegoat.
Our nature is to change our nature.
Their ignorance of their own religion is on a par of these "patriots" ignorance of their own Constitution.
Good Lard.
Forgiveness and mercy isn't limited by Christianity of the people, by the people, for the people. Forgiveness also doesn't necessarily take away any consequences for the sinner's actions.
Why don't these idiots remember religious persecution that brought so many to this country and what freedom of religion means????
BTW, I am a "Christian" at least my brand of religion falls into what was once known as Christianity until the Christians ruined it. I can "forgive" Tiger without putting a condition of conversion on it. So can his wife, if she chooses too. She could still divorce him and forgive him.
What a total idiot this Brit Hume is. Wow!
Thank you, for not being a close minded jesus bible freak like so many other Christians who commented on this issue. I am Jewish and although I have absolute nothing wrong with most Christians or Christianity in general, the growing number of extreme evangelicals who go around bashing around other cultures and religions "in the name of christ" makes me both angry and terrified. And also thank you for recognizing that the principle our country was founded upon is freedom, not religion.
To put it mildly....I've met Christians who thought Jesus was a Christian...
Religious cult members covet ignorance...why else would they be so contemptuous of science?
perhaps you meant "cultivate" v. "covet"?
kindly, The Dosidosian.
it was not the apple in the tree, it was the pair on the ground!
Why should Woods be condemned or forgiven. That's his own business, not ours, and especially not Brit Hume's.
it's not like Buddhism is any less ridiculous than Christianity..
One of the most important teachings of Buddhism is that you can't believe anything just because somebody claims it's true. You have to find out and judge for yourself. That alone makes it less ridiculous than Christianity by a factor of at least 100.
that it's all still ridiculous.
I remember being invited to a Buddhist wedding. I thought, now this should be interesting.
At the end, I instead thought, "nope, it's just as stupid as sitting in a Christian church. And just as irritating."
Sitting there chanting to some invisible fat dude is just as dumb as saying 10 Hail Mary's.
Buddhists do not worship Buddha, and they are not 'chanting to some invisible fat dude'. They simply honor him as a great teacher. Buddhism is more a philosophy than a religion. Try reading up on it before making fun of it.
tape the Mohammed cartoon to his back and send him out into Mecca.
Message to Brit Hume: STFU
If Tiger wants "forgiveness," he shouldn't turn to some magical figment of the imagination who lives in the sky. He should go to his wife (or is it ex-wife by now?) and get forgiveness from HER and her alone. And he sure can't get it by "converting." That is, without DOING anything. He doesn't need Brit Hume's goddamn forgiveness.
Hell, it would be a HORRIBLE example if he became Christian for "redemption" (what is with theists and this redemption fetish anyway?). I mean really, "Hey people, no matter what you do, no matter how bad it is, all you have to do is say a prayer to some cosmic...well, thing, and all is forgiven! Because really, what matters more? Getting forgiveness from the person you actually wronged, or making sure I, Brit Hume, stay a self-righteous, pompous ass?"
My god. Jesus H. Christ. What the heck is wrong with these religious pukes?
Last night, I saw a repeat on CNN of a Christine Amanpour special on Islamic extremism in the U.K. She was interviewing this one fanatic extremist who claimed that Sharia law would come to the U.K., either peacefully or not. When asked if it was right that people, including children, are killed in order to make this happen, the guy basically said that this is what Muhammad preached and wanted. In effect, he was saying that his religion is the only true and right religion.
That's what Hume is saying. He is saying that Christianity is the only good religion that will "save" one from their sins.
Makes me want to puke.
... everyone, because he is so full of guilt himself -- ever since his son suicided about 10 years ago.
Hume's paranoia stem's from the possibility that there actually is a just God. And if there is, then he, Brit Hume, is gonna burn and burn and burn. Scares the living crap out of him. His only outlet is to lay guilt on everyone he can.
The psychology/pathology of the man is not hard to read.
I did not know that about his son. says volumes.
This sounds like the Mary Griffith story in reverse. She tried to pray the gay away and her son Bobby committed suicide. It's a very sad story, but the silver lining is that she opened her eyes and saw that God means unconditional love for everyone. period.
Too bad Brit doesn't get that.
REPENT AND YOU CAN GET INTO HEAVEN!!
I think we should send a message to Hume and the 'Cons by turning our backs...on Christianinty.
And all religions as well.
a little differently. Instead of looking at the group, look at the individuals. There's a lot of broad brushes out there, if ya know what I'm saying. There are a lot of good decent people out there that are religious. Tossing them away so cavalierly seems to me to be both immoral and stupid.
There's nothing incompatible between Christianity and social justice, at least if you go by what the Christ said. Personally, I think the dude's getting a bad rap; if you go buy one of those bibles with the words of Christ in red and read only the red stuff, you'll find that he was a pretty decent philosopher. Does that make him God? In my opinion, all that is hagiography added by others later... and when assessing his arguments in favour of public welfare all that should be ignored.
Anyway, not to get into a theological argument, the main takeaway from that little exercise is that Jesus had very little use for people who abandon and vilify the poor (sooner a camel through the eye of a needle and all that). Any other conclusion is simply incompatible with his words. This means that Brit Hume cannot possibly be both truly Christian and do what he does for a living... none of those people can possibly be. So people should stop associating real Christians with those that use that religion to clothe their hypocrisy. Furthermore, there are a lot (like a LOT) of real Christians out there, and getting them on the side of social justice should be reasonably easy to do, if one's willing to make the right kinds of arguments. We have largely succeeded in doing so up here in Canada, for example. However, any real dialogue between the faithful and heathens (I'd pretty much be one of the latter, in all truth) among us is impossible when people take that attitude to other people who disagree with them on what is, in the final analysis, a small thing.
If you want to actually achieve the goals of a better more just society in the US, turning your backs on so many people because of a bunch of fully purchased hypocrites on TV is just unbelievably dumb. You need their help to do what needs to be done if you want to fix the problems in your country. Arguing that progressives should "send a message ... by turning our backs" is arguing against success in the progressive program. And that pretty much fits my initial description.
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It's the "religious" types that you're blindly defending that are responsible for all the bloodshed & violence in the world since the Fall of Rome.
They don't care about the people they claim to represent, only what they can get in their grimy little hands.
And Christianity is as phony as a $4 bill.
It's as incompatible with reality as the "news" peddled on Fox.
And the sooner it joins Zeus, Osiris, and all the other "religions" in the dustbin of history, the better off the whole world will be.
The quiet, law-abiding, Christians in this country, who do no one any harm, are "responsible for all the bloodshed & violence in the world since the Fall of Rome"?? What fucking planet do you come from?
Religion is not what makes the world so rotten. It's HUMAN NATURE that causes wars and bloodshed, dude. Please don't pretend that the world would be a peaceful paradise if there were no religion. We'd just come up with a whole new raft of reasons to hate and kill each other.
Don't believe me? Then explain to me how Stalin, who was an atheist, could have been responsible for the death of so many millions of his people. How about Mao? He wasn't religious either. Neither was Pol Pot. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't invite any of them to a party at my house.
The idea that religion is somehow the thing that makes all the violence and wars in the world is just lazy, sloppy, self-indulgent and combative. It ignores large chunks of the human psyche, and is just a convenient way to demonize people you don't like.
No, religion is not the thing that makes all the violence and wars in the world. People do that. But many of the miseries of the world do stem from extremist religious beliefs that people have. For every human who has been responsible for misery and death that was an atheist, you can find just as many, if not more, that had strong religious beliefs.
Religion is a drug, an opium of the mind...
Just because not every tyrant is religious doesn't mean they all are.
And I am sick of hearing anyone defending them.
I suggest you get off your cross, stop going to church and pick up something other than a Bible, like a history book 'cause you definitely need a refresher course.
In particular I suggest reading about:
The Cursades
The Inquisition
Card. Richelieu
Then tell me if you still think religion causes more good than bad..
True. The crusades did happen "in the name of Christ."
True. The inquisition did happen "in the name of Christ."
Also true, Adolf Hitler claimed to be a Catholic Christian when he commissioned the mass murder of millions of people.
All these claims have happened under a fraudulent veil of "Christianity." People using religion as an excuse, as a "holy cause" to sanctify the death of hundreds and millions.
But can we really categorize those deaths as being the responsibility of actual Christians who actively seek a personal relationship with Christ?
Let's look at it historically: Christ had every opportunity to be the king of the Jews (in fact, that was the title nailed to the top of his cross to mock him). The Jews wanted to overthrow Roman oppression. They were promised a messiah and were willing to follow any militant leader who might forge the way against the Romans. Jesus had that opportunity, but he preached of forgiveness to those who wrong you and he lived a life of pacifism to the point that he wouldn't even protest to those who hung him to die on a cross.
Something about Jesus' example tells me that the people who parade around under the Christian flag are fakers. If they were to actually follow Christ, they would beg forgiveness to all the lives they took.
Youre labeling things that happened in the name of Christ, but you're overlooking the Christians out there who actually follow Christ.
get a brain to become human!
Because we all know Christians don't cheat.
and they get an ever so special Forgiveness Free Pass for doing so because they are in The Club.
Really stupid, stupid, stupid.
....came up with the Mulligan?
Fume is no Xtian! he's on fuxNoise race-baiting the southern racists that luv themselves some fuxNoise. Next, Fume will advise tigger to date within his race.
fork you hume
A guy like that gets paid more for being stupid than I get paid for being smart?
to talk to their stupid audience.
Mind if I use it occasionally?
are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. You can recognize the Four Noble Truths and follow the Eightfold Path while still worshiping Jesus.
Jesus is a Saint (or rather, a fellow Budha).
But in Buddhism wouldn't that make him a bodhisattvas?
And that would make him similar to the Aeons of the Gnostics
Who displeased the Paulists because they made him the Aeon closest to earth, which seemed to make him less blessed, when in actuality it could mean he volunteered like any avatara to descend to a lower realm to be of divine service.
Actually, some people think Dao and Wiccae are comparable.
Why, here's one of our sacred hymns now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpg-KIKD5gU
(Of course hymn is a word derived from the Greek muse of sacred music, Polyhymnia).
Bodhisattva
I changed structure in mid-stream of thought.
A bodhisattva deliberately turns his back on Nirvana in order to help all other living beings to reach it first. Since is said that Jesus ascended into Heaven (the Christian equivalent of Nirvana) and is there still, he cannot be said to be a bodhisattva. He would, however, be considered on a par with the Buddha, because he reached that highest plateau.
One problem, Jesus told the thief on the cross that he'd be with him in Paradise:
39And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
40But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
41And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
Luke 23:39-43
In the Garden of Gethsemane, however, Jesus said to Mary Magdalene after his alleged resurrection:
Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
John 20:17 KJV
That suggests the writers or translators slipped, or it's bedevils modern understanding, or there's a difference between what we call Paradise and Heaven.
and they are both silly.
I decided if I was going to be irrational, I was gonna be irrational in a BIG way.
Christians have the highest rate of divorce and seem eager to betray their spouses. C-Street and their brand of christianity comes to mind. Isn't Rush Limbaugh a Christian? What kind of redemption would Tiger be looking for from this group and their worship of God? What kind of example would he be setting by turning to the likes of these ppl. Tiger Woods issues with his sex drive and marital infedelity are a bit severe. He should problaby address this problem with a professional. I'm sure God wouldn't mind. And why must Christians continue to find fault with other religions? it's preposterous!
50% of American marriages end in divorce.
34% of Christian marriages end in divorce.
0.00256% of Christian families who pray together regularly end in divorce.
I'll give you that there are hypocrit Christians out there who use Christianity as a means of redemption and salvation. The numbers speak for themselves that those people are barely better off than those who are not Christians. But actual Christians who live a life submerged in pursuit of Christ, are barely even chartable to what you just said.
Oh, and let's not forget about the other 90% of Americans who just sleep around and then leave the person. On a note of technicality, that doesn't count as a divorce. But let's not forget that they leave their spouses on a weekly basis.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_dira.htm
to be believable.
Remember when "journalist" left their religion outside of the newsrooms and TV studios? Ah, the good ole days!
used to leave their politics and personal beliefs out there too. Occasionally someone would give an editorial with the words "EDITORIAL" or "COMMENTARY" plastered on the screen.
Sadly, that's all gone, as well as not paying people for interviews.
that was gone about the time that "journalists" started giggling on camera. That's when I lost all semblance of respect for them.
It's the one thing that keeps me from being an all-out fan of Rachel Maddow. Her snickering makes me ill at ease. Whenever I see her do that, I think "What makes you better than the people you laugh at, exactly?"
A PhD?
unless they were announced as such.
Remember when journalists had I.Q.s way up in the hundreds. lol
Hey Humey- shove that sh-t you're shoveling up the hole where your brain resides. To repeat what someone else said here, Buddhism? Predates Chritianity bud. And Christianity? Redemption? Please. There's more blood on their hands than nearly any other cause for war. Spare us your pious horse crap you egotistical, lying and manipulative tool!
True.
That is, if you count people like Adolf Hitler to be a Christian.
http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/Hi...
He claimed to be Catholic, but based on his actions, I'm going to say (along with the rest of the Catholics who wish he didn't claim that) that he wasn't the Christian he claimed to be. I don't know, call me crazy.
So yeah, I'll give you that "in the name of Christ" there is a CRAP load of bloodshed out there. But you are seriously overlooking those Christians out there who actually follow the example Christ laid before them.
Jesus was a man who could have ruled Israel in his time. All Jews were looking to overthrow the Roman Empire and make a name for themselves. He had the power, he had the publicity, he had the people, and yet he was a pacifist to the extreme of hanging on a cross for his teachings.
So yes, I give you that blood has been spilled "in the name of Christ," but not by Christians whose priority is following Christ.
The Spanish Inquisition?
How about the Catholic v Protestant deal in Northern Ireland.
Or the West of Scotland for that matter.
Sorry, Take the rose colored glasses off.
Or how about the Pope during WW2? He could have said something and stopped the persecution of over 6 million Jews. But did he? No. He let them die.
Apparently you didn't follow the link and do a little research for yourself.
Adolf Hitler claimed to be a Catholic Christian. He was doing it all for the God of the Bible. My point is in your favor. I am agreeing with you that there is a mess of bloodshed all done in the name of Christianity. However, my more acute argument is that those are people running around behind a veil of Christianity claiming to do things for Christ.
My point: Christ would not have done that. He had the opportunity and did not take it.
So can you really label all those wars and deaths on true Christians, or just the religious front of Christianity?
I already know whats in them.
Just more hypocrisy. How many wars? How many deaths in the name of Christianity? Through out history, more people have died in the name of Christianity than of any other religion.
The Muslims are trying to catch up now though.
How do you feel about other religions? Do you see them as false Gods? And if so, why?
Yeah, well, maybe Christ would have none of that. But his fan club is doing a bang up job going around hurting people.
I'm not so jaded to see that there are some very decent religious people out there. Who do wonderful things.
Sadly, there's not enough of them.
Are you a member of the Christian Coalition?
How those people can call themselves Christian is beyond me. Robertson,( I say we take him out) referring to Hugo Chavez. Falwell? please, these men were phony to the core.
Haggard? Need I continue?
"All Jews were looking to overthrow the Roman Empire and make a name for themselves."
Gee, where'd ya pull that out of?
You must hate the Jews something fierce to think that is actually true. It wasn't even possible back then.
The Roman Empire was just that. An Empire.
Try again. Only, try harder. You see, I know a little about religion. More than most. But by no means am I a scholar of religion. My uncle was. He studied at the Vatican for awhile.
Ok, well try to do a little research on the time 0BC-30AD. Read a couple books in Greek, Hebrew, or the English translations if you prefer. "Titus Flavius Josephus was a first-century Jewish historian and apologist of priestly and royal ancestry who survived and recorded the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. His works give an important insight into first-century Judaism." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
"For the ordinary people of the Jewish homeland, Rome was a kind of dominant political factor. Although they might not have seen Romans on a day-to-day basis, the imposition of Roman power was certainly there. In the case of the client kingdom, Judea, Herod's rule and Herod's forces would have been the political entity. But everyone knew that Rome was the power behind the throne. Everyone knew that Rome was the source of both the wealth and also the source of some of the problems that occurred in the Jewish state. So the political reality of the day was of a dominant power overseeing the life on a day-to-day basis."
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...
Tell me that the Jews did not wish to overthrow the domineering political right hand in their land.
here, wikipedia, a nice unbiased article to prove my point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_religious_beliefs
I do not see other religions as false gods, but I see the people in those religions worshipping false gods. Those are people who are hell-bound, to be blunt. Only one person in human history has raised from the dead and broke the power of death. I don't know about you, but if I want to think that there's a life after death and I want to be there, I'm following the guy who has already paved the way. That's a very precautious reason, of course. I have seen God's power move in people's lives around me and I have read and re-read the Bible and seen that it is infallible. I dare you to read it for yourself and prove me wrong.
I am a Christian, but only in the sense that I follow Christ, none of this "religion saves me" bullcrap. The church doesn't save a soul. Religion doesn't make someone right. Christ does.
I've seen this all before.
And I tire of it.
Who's to say you're not worshiping a false God?
I'm sure they feel as strongly as you with your faith.
So, why does that make you think you are right? And they are wrong?
Because you read it in a book? Or, has God talked to you? Do you know how many times the bible has been rewritten ? And everytime, it's written by fallible men. Men who put their own twist on it.
See ya later bub. Your comment about the Jews wanting to overthrow the Roman Empire is ludicrous..
See ya around.
Yup. That worked for Ted Haggard. HIs flock totally forgave him... oh, wait, no they didn't. They ran he and his family out of town and he was shunned by almost all the Christian leaders.
Jimmy Swaggart! when he tearfully asked for forgiveness for sleeping with a Prostitute? Brilliant! Let's not forget Jim Baker and his grabby mcgrabby self!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi7rNMg
And Debra Murphree was butt uggggleeee
At least Jim Bakker tapped somodis:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1en_MhRTrjE
The Rev. swaggart, then you have the Hate mongering Racist Nazi right Wing, Gov. sanford here's a classic piece of garbage christian to, then oh yes lets not for get Sen. l. craig and his wide stance in the men's room, then you have Diaper Boy vitter from Louisiana, we sure don't want to forget the good Whore Monger from Nevada now do we.
Yes Yes Yes all these Phony ass christian right we love to hate if it isn't WHITE whore mongers I can really see were this is going . What a Jerk Off. Further proof the christian faith is hate based, this FOOL can't even respect another persons personal religious choice screw the hate base christian I spit on you and what you represent.
...it must be hard to be Stephen Colbert, these days. I mean, you can't make up stuff like that.
it makes it easy. After all, he doesn't have to make it up... he just has to mock it. This is grist for the mill.
In Christianity, sinners burn in hell for all eternity. In Buddhism, they are reincarnated as Republicans.
Is Reverand Hume embalmed? He certainly seems to be. Herman Munster looked beter than him, and he was "in Black & White."
What are the chances Brit Hume ever danced around with a lampshade on his head?
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Tiger should go "rent" a room at the C-Street House and learn how to get 'forgiven' by all those 'Family' members who reside there.
After all, they have more experience at sinning, lying, faking apologies, and exclaiming their redemption by Jeebus then any other bunch of sexual perverts around.
Religion is the opiate of the masses and America is full of Jesus Junkies in dire need of an intervention and a 12 step program! I used to frequently see/hear the statement that "Christians aren't perfect--just forgiven." They evidently take that to mean that because they're automatically forgiven for anything and everything that nothing they do can possibly be wrong. Insufferable, self-righteous, smug pricks!! I've come to the conclusion that Jesus makes people stupid, or at the very least, he makes stupid people believe there's nothing wrong with their ignorance.
It's stupid people who believe in Jesus. Studies have shown that the lower your intelligence, the more likely you are to be sucked in by religion.
And I have no qualms about calling religion stupid. Try explaining what an exorcist is to your kid, and you'll realise how stupid religion is.
Christianity is no different from praying to the volcano god. It's superstition, a simplistic way of explaining the things we have trouble explaining.
Actually I'm Wiccae.
I understand that Jehovah was a name of a Semitic barley and volcano god. Later intellectualized into the Tetragrammaton.
Thanks - someone had to have the guts to say it!
Contrary to popular Christian propaganda, atheists vastly outnumber Christians. Die you know the tree outside my window is an atheist? My chair is an atheist. A clam is an atheist. A sea-slug is an atheist. A cabbage is an atheist. A sponge is an atheist. A bicycle is an atheist. An eggbeater is an atheist. A toaster is an atheist. My bicycle is an atheist. My underarm deodorant is an atheist.
Now the only National Merit study I know of - the Warren and Heist, 1960 - found out that there were no differences among National Merit Scholars as to religious belief relative to the general population.
But if you like survey's we do have the 1997 N.Y. Times News Service
report that "Several recent surveys of American college professors, ..., show that professors are almost as likely to express a belief in God as are Americans as a whole."
Great argument though. Christians must be stupid. Good point. Well researched.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...
Brit, you twit...
The reason why Buddhism doesn't offer the kind of redemption Christianity does is because it doesn't condemn people to eternal torture in the first place.
Maybe Christians should not focus on how easy it is to be forgiven in the christian faith, and should (like buddhists) focus on self improvement. Brit Hume seems to think that Christianity is all about public image, and washing away sins. Is there any room in the Christian faith for taking responsibility for ones actions? For that matter is there any room in the Christian faith for tolerance of others beliefs?
I am currently reading Republican Gomorrah by Max Blumenthal and this fits right into the endless examples of sin being wiped away by those turning to Christ, or the Chrisitan Right to be more precise. My favorite parts of the book are when Blumenthal compares the behavior of his subjects to the studies by Erich Fromm. Great read!
WTF are they talking about Tiger Woods to begin with?
Because they are a fake TV station.
anything but gibberish to spew from Brit Hume's mouth once it's engaged? What a d**k.
The idea that one would need religion as a middleman is patently ludicrous. If one is sorry for something, sincerely apologize to the wronged party, right the wrong if possible, forgive yourself, you're not perfect, learn from your mistakes and move on!
Any God - if there is one - (and I believe in God) would have more respect for that than reciting some ritualistic hail Mary stuff, or the equivalent some religious figurehead tells you you need to puppet to be forgiven.
I tend to be more promiscuous when I'm feeling selfless.
As usual, "religion poisons everything."
it's Brit Hume and Fixed News that poisons everything
1: What Brit Hume doesn't know about Buddhism could fill several libraries.
2: Since when did it become Brit Hume's business what ANYBODY'S religion is?
3: jeebus doesn't exist, just officious, vacuous, loud mouthed fuckwit followers.
Christian and forcing everyone to be Muslim? Either way, it's fascism.
I'm tired of the Buddhist forcing their ways on us and its time to take our country back!
The Fourth Estate in the form of Foxy News has a new proselytizing, paternalistic mouthpiece. Must be that 1st Amendment thingy that they don't like for others to enjoy but clasp close to their bloodless hearts.
...get yourself into an intensive psychotherapy program with a clinical psychologist to address your irrational emotional need to subscribe to the childish and throughly discredited Middle Eastern delusional belief system called "Christianity." As delusional thought disorder is a serious mental illness, you may also require hospitalization and psychiatric treatment with psychoactive medication. Electroshock therapy is another approach you doctors could consider. Good luck to you, Brit.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
http://www.larrythepenguin.com
http://charlesbelser.com
It's hard to tell what's worse - his flabbergasting bigotry, or the way Hume seems to view Christianity as a kind of toilet paper for incontinent souls such as his own. It's not the message of love that's important to people like him, it's the utilitarian way one can periodically erase one's misdeeds and reclaim the arrogant sense of superiority that makes the next set of sins possible
... oy gevalt
He's just as qualified to comment on religious topics as he is to comment on, say, politics. Meaning of course that he has no formal education or experience in either field. Just like most of his cohorts at FN.
This butt hole is disgusting. We truly are a nation of morons if we have a couple million Amerikkkans following these idiots.
It's warm where you're headed. Very warm.
Actually this Thursday it's going to be a low of 14 degrees in Texas.
Well, that explains everything. The GOP leadership claims to be Christians because that makes it acceptable to cheat on your wife, as long as you apologize afterward. Got it. Thanks for the laugh.
I gave up on brand religion long ago. My bio would say "spiritual but non aligned" .Its really quite exhilarating to be a religious free agent.
As for Tiger. He needs to lawyer up, try and maintain the pre nup, and pay a large, but affordable, divorce settlement and get on with it. I doubt Elle will ever truly forgive him anyways. He will have his freedom to play as many different courses as he wishes to. Tiger can claim he was unhappy in the marriage which drove him to infidelity. There are those that will buy that too. Will he have the mental capacity to win 5 more Majors to pass Jack now or will he forever be afraid of some rude rube coughing " cheetah " in his backswing all the time. Stay tuned.
...that the rules of common decency didn't apply to him because he's the best golfer in the world.
Brit Hume is just another bigoted asshole from Fox imposing his suicide inducing life style on someone who has nothing in common culturally with his sorry old white ass.
So applying this logic, if I want to be forgiven for infidelity, I need to embrace the faith of "Christians" like Mark Sanford, Chip Pickering, and John Ensign? No thanks. I will happily remain an atheist who doesnt' require the forgiveness of any diety because fidelity to my spouse is my family value. Of course, I'm not stupid enough to believe that infidelity is a value that Christ espouses, nor do I believe that Buddhism is a faith without forgiveness.
I thought a big part of the whole Christian gig is that they can find it in their hearts to forgive anyone, regardless of transgression. I didn't realize that that forgiveness required joining their club.
that's what really frosts me about these fundies.
Plus, only christians have the power to forgive others.
Brit really hit the ball outta the Fundy park with this statement.
Salvation through faith alone. period.
They believe, in a nutshell, salvation comes through worship of Jesus as a God.
Worship Jesus, or burn in hell. Period. That's it, that's the core of the Christian belief...Worship Jesus or burn
Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, Sola Gratia, Solo Christo, Soli Deo Gloria.
Also articles IX-XIII of the 39 Articles.
the 'jeezus' password at the gate. that way it don't matter what the fuck you do to anyone.
Very well said! It's such an great club! Just join up and you're forgiven. Then, believe the holy book and you go to heaven forever. What an exclusive club! Of course, it could all be a bunch of horse-hockey. but what the heck!
Is that really any different than praying to Jesus?
Sorry, Christianity, like all religions, is a cult....
Calvin and Hobbes already discussed that.
The only difference is that the followers of Santa tend to be nicer people.
Vitter, Ensign, Sanford, et al?
Oh yeah, I agree. Maybe, for good measure, he should get a room on C Street.
Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall if Jesus had a sit-down chat with Mr Hume?
What he really means is a lot like what the C-Street Family thinks:
If you believe the right fairy tales, you're in a special club that allows you to get away with anything. Go ahead and be as heinous as you like. You are forgiven.
It's a complete perversion of an already perverse idea -- that someone else can pay for your crimes.
The King David Syndrome.
Although the C Streeters forget about the consequences that were dealt to David for his hounddogging with Bathsheba along with that there forgiveness. A lot of people he loved died and he still had to make amends IIRC.
Yep. Yep. the C-Street cell is big trouble.
As a Buddhist, I will offer redemption and forgiveness to Brit Hu(bris)me for his profound ignorance and delusion, and primitive beliefs about reality.
Not able to offer that on the FOX/Rethug angle though.
Buddhism is not even a "religion" is it? no "faith" in fairy tales required for admission.
Brit hume is a trouble maker.
Actually it is, but has no creator God, so in the eyes of the Occidental, it is not a religion.
There are also different schools of it world-wide.
And you can say we were all Occidents of birth.
Confuscianism is even more of a philosophy, but can still be likened to a religion, although it promises no reward that I know of, not even escape from the Greek Kyklos Geneseon.
So basically Hume is saying that converting to Christianity is like a "get out of jail free" card?
Wow! I always thought christians were full of it, but now I know for sure!
Just WHO is supposed to do this forgiving? I would assume it would be his wife since she was the injured party here. Why would she caqre if he's a Buddhist, a Christian, or a Cargo-Cultist?
there are more important people in Brit's view than The Wife. Fans, and most of all, $pon$or$
the guy is nuts - don't try to understand beyond the fact that he is deluded.
Love that "Shit Fumes" moniker someone tagged good old Brit with. It is fitting.
Is Brit part of the C-Street cell?
He is said to be a Buddhist. I don't think that faith offers the kind of redemption and forgiveness offered by the Christian faith. My message to Tiger is,
I am an unbelievably arrogant asshole whose continued presence on Tee Vee is an embarrassment to Americans everywhere,and yet I continue to be treated like a person anyone should take even slightly seriously,instead of the obnoxious jackass I truly am.
There's an objective newsman for you.
You know, that's kind of creepy. Brit Hume should shut the eff up.
Actually, I would suggest that Jesus did not forgive sinners.
If he lived, what he did was probably closer to what he did in his other healings
He made it psychological, "Do you believe you should be forgiven?"
Hume doesn't even realize how he's showing his profound ignorance. He's actually saying HE will forgive Woods, if he accepts his brand of God-ism. Another case of a lesser thinker making God in his OWN image and expecting others to bow down in worship and subjugation.
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it's very codependent to think you can tell someone else how to gain forgiveness. I notice no one told Brit what to do after his son's death.
We do have free will to sin and/or seek forgiveness. Or not.
That free will thingy is something neo-cons find so troubling.
Coca Cola for a cold.
It's the free will of a mouse in a maze, he can go left or right, foreward or back, but the researcher is still calling the shots.
True Free Will is an illusion, a maya, since that would preclude the omniscience of their God.
it ain't religion, it's the people. You're as judgemental as Fixed news and Neocons pricks...
if you read all the comments, some here have a strong faith life. It's the fundamentalism that offends me. The My God can beat up Your God mentality.
If some here have anti religion views, that's their choice and their right. Unfortunately fundy "christians" have given Christianity a very bad rap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9LW_ZhtoNs
The reason Fox News wants to continue to hammer on the Tiger Woods story is because he's black like Obama. They see similarities between Tiger Woods and Obama, so it's psychology, you know? Establish an association in peoples' minds between Tiger Woods (and what he did) and Obama, even though there is of course no real relationship between the two. Rush Limbaugh even came right out and said it. Tiger Woods is Obama.
It is hard to imagine any more asinine statement than the one Brit Hume made about Tiger Woods converting to Christianity, but you got to understand, everyone who works for Fox News is under orders, either formally or informally, to pander to the Christina Right whenever possible. In this case, the pandering got a little too obviously silly.
I hate Fox News too, but they are very smart. The smartest thing they have done is somehow still be acknowledged as a news organization by the mainstream media. Go figure. Dollar figures, that is.
we have a winner.
You nailed it.
FOX,an obvious appendage of the GOP, does purposely pander to the Religious Right in a tightly controlled "on message" relentless fashion.
At this point, I'm not sure FUX News is an appendage of the GOP or if it's the other way around.
Or that each one is but a cell of a larger propaganda network.
FUX News' managers like Roger Ailes knew full well that if they abandoned all journalistic integrity, but constantly claimed to be the fair and balanced 24-hour news network, they would gain a staggering market share by pandering to Know Knothing Knation. That market share would be the envy of the cable news world.
Then, they knew, like all television networks before them, the competition would not try to create something new and better. No, no. They would try to copy the format to steal away the market share. It's the reason there are always two shows on two different stations that are essentially the same program. (e.g. The Munsters & The Addams Family; Family Ties & Growing Pains; Bewitched & I Dream of Jeanie) It's a longstanding television tradition. If one network comes up with something that makes money, copy it.
Once all the networks (and there are only a few of them that big at any given time) were reporting lies and tabloid trash, and claiming to be the most fair and the most balanced, FUX could get away with anything.
Hell, FUX could even get its competition to defend it when, say, the White House calls it out for not being real news. After all, they're all doing it, and none wants to be called out.
and race-baiting Obama is the fuxNoise stock-in-trade.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOrgLj9lOwk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf6wZFMWJeU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5VqdMjTuzA
If he lives to be 2000 years old, Brit Hume will still be unable to get the taste of Bush/Cheney ass out of his mouth.
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