The Buck Stops There: Bush Blames Iraq Mess on Bad Intelligence
By CSPANJunkie Wednesday Dec 03, 2008 2:00pmDecember 02, 2008 ABC News
The Preznit, out working on that Legacy Thing, was on ABC with Charles Gibson last night, and had this revealing exchange:
Gibson: You've always said there's no do-overs as president. If you had one --
Bush: The biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq. A lot of people put their reputations on the line and said, you know ... the weapons of mass destruction is a reason to remove Saddam Hussein. It wasn't just people in my administration, and um ... You know, that's not a do-over, but I wish the intelligence had been different, I guess.
Gibson: If the intelligence had been right, would there have been an Iraq war?
Bush: If he had had weapons of mass destruction, would there have been a war? Absolutely.
Gibson: No, if you had known he didn't.
Bush: Oh, I see what you're saying. Uh ... You know, that's an interesting question. That is a do-over I can't do. It's hard for me to speculate.
David N: As always with Bush, the Buck Stops Over There, Or There -- Anywhere But Here.
It obviously never crossed Bush's mind to consider the possibility that there weren't WMD in Iraq -- which, as we now know, was a lot of the reason the intelligence he received was getting so skewed. Indeed, it's obvious he'd probably have simply ignored that intelligence even if it had clearly warned there were no WMD.
Meanwhile, guys like Richard Clarke were warning him he shouldn't even go into Iraq if he was serious about combating terrorism.
Clearly, he wasn't. He was just intent on kicking Saddam's ass, regardless of the price paid.
And that's why, contra Karl Rove, he is forever doomed to be known as the Worst. President. Ever.
Adam Serwer at TAP and Greg Sargent at TPM have more on Bush's actual record regarding pre-invasion intelligence on Iraq.
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meh. dead man talking.
The first thing they did was make up the phony phrase Weapons of Mass Destruction and then use ancillary phrases like 'mushroom clouds' to conflate WMD with nuclear weaponry.
If they meant 'Nuclear' they should have said it, but the entire 'intelligence' angle was phony from day one. They knew Sadam did not have nuclear weapons.
Bush wanted to take Sadam out as a family matter and he murdered more than one million people to do it.
Over and over again the wingnuts hijack the language and people go along with it.
My advice is first of all, STOP USING the phony phrase WMD.
I never fell for it. The day I saw Bushs face on television back in early 2000 I knew he was going to be one big phoney and a screw up.
He's proved me right!!
I knew his reasons for war in Iraq were lies and that was proved with the ease of our takeover. Had Saddam had those weapons, an he knew Bush was comming for him specifically, you know someone like Saddam would have used those weapons on the first US troops that crossed his borders.
Bush is a liar, he's just not a very good liar. I knew the man would be a lousy president, I just never expected that he would be the utter disaster that he is.
Not bad intelligence, no intelligence. As in, Bush is not intelligent.
Cheney and his 'fix the intelligence' program.
1. Cheney's manufactured intelligence (i.e bullshit)
2. Bush's stupidity
I never liked this punk ass bitch from the very first time I heard him speak. I can go to my grave knowing that I didn't support any of this remorseless criminal's bullshit.
Shame on Barbara and Senior Bush for not leaving this no account fucker in a dumpster at birth.
The Dubya apple doesn't fall far from the Barbara tree. Talk about an elitist bitch. After she said what she did about the Katrina victims, I wrote her off as the biggest bitch around.
She is the sociopath who spawned a narcissistic psychopath.
They are both pieces of shit.
Amen!!!!
And all of you are being far too kind to this Bush vermin.
One thing I've never quite gotten is the disappointment that we didn't find WMDs.
I get that we were sold the war on that basis, but it's clear that The Decider was going to go in whatever anyone had to say about it.
So, since we were going to inevitably be babysitting a sectarian civil war on the other side of the planet, isn't it a GOOD thing that there's not also a bunch of rogue fuel-air explosives wandering around?
I mean, look at the damage that's being done with IEDs.
Fuel-air explosives are really just conventional munitions, granted powerful ones. Big explosion in a confined area, not really capable of killing thousands.
WMD is really stuff more like nuclear and biological warfare munitions.
Perhaps he means his own intelligence. Or lack thereof.
my belief that to become president (R or D), you must be 1) willing to kill, 2) willing to lie, 3) willing and able to charm others, 4) willing to say X while doing Y, and 5) able to sleep well at night regardless of what happens as a result of your actions.
Face it: only 44 individuals have been elected president.
Is your abject cynicism is hiding guilt?
I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004.
You can call me a cynic, or anything else.
I'm a fucking realist, in my opinion.
BTW, although you trash me, I like your posts. Trash me anyway.
A realist that voted Nader, twice?
It's like cheering for the Cubs.
You know they're going to lose. You know they're not perfect.
But to do otherwise is to be untrue to yourself.
and integrity.
n/t
3 times.
I'm not trying to vote for the winner. I'm casting a vote for the guy who best represents how I feel about doing things. No one in the 2 party system does that.
For what it's worth, I think that many of comments are right on-the-mark. Keep it up.
I simply don't think your cynical broad brush is totally accurate. I do believe that a vote for Nader aided Bush...sorry.
that's some of the main characteristics of a psychopath.
just wait, Obama will demonstrate some of those also.
Let's see.
cuz there really is no point for your existance on this planet
You are dillusional.
GWB was handed the Presidency by SCOTUS and later by the magical Diebold machinery. He would not have been up the second time if he hadn't cheated to get in the first time. He didn't win it either time.
Also, Geo Washington had to nearly be press ganged into taking the office once elected, since he did in no way seek the office.
[Wed, 12/03/2008 - 14:15 — They all suck]
SCOTUS awarded the presidency to Bush in 2000, and he was running as incumbent (which he would not have been, had Gore been allowed the victory) when the magical counting of the Diebold voting machines gave him the 2004 'victory.'
I don't think Andrew Johnson was either, but Grover Cleveland was 22nd and 24th IIRC, so that's a wash...
John Tyler -- not elected
Millard Fillmore -- not elected
Chester Arthur -- not elected
Gerald Ford -- not elected
And did you know the Geo Washington did not run for Pres? He was elected had to nearly be press ganged into serving.
What is more scary is that there seems to be no regret that over 4000 Americans and tens of thousands of innocent Iraq citizens are dead and Iraq is devastated. I really wonder if he ever thinks about how his decisions did incredible things to the world? Not even Nikon was this bad...and he was horrible!
A classical Dry Drunk. He managed to stop drinking, but, like a wet drunk, still refuses to admit that he might have ever done anything wrong.
When it was clear boosh was slurring his speech and groping long for a sentence and showing up on at least 3 different occasions with bruises on his face, Laura tried the pity card saying in spirit, "the cause of his shocking and deepening stupidity and inapproriate comments is not that he's shitfaced, it's Lyme's disease". Let's flick on the screen with an MRI of his oh so pickled brain no doubt shrunken to the size of a walnut.
No, Laura, it's Subhuman's disease.
Since, except for service personnel and their families, we in America have been relatively isolated from the war, it escapes our consistent awareness, but this war of aggression has devastated Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of innocents killed, millions displaced, sectarian conflicts that will doubtless lead to yet more bloodshed inflamed. And all in order to pump up his frat boy ego. By no means just a bumbling fool, he is truly one of history's great criminals.
Wow the prez couldn't figure out how to blame Clinton for the Iraq war, can you tell that Rove is no longer in the loop.
Nobody can spin revisionist hisrtory like a drunk. Dry or otherwise. What about the Downing Street Memo, George?
Being a dry drunk would mean he actually stopped drinking at some point, wouldn't it?
Bad intel. That is why he awarded Tenet the Pres medal of Freedom. Never mind that they knew the uranium stories and Curveball stories were bogus. How often did you hear any mention of the solid intel that came from Iraqis and ex pats that there were no wmd?
The exchange at mark 2:01 is so telling.
He is a complete and utter fool. Can't speak, can't think, can't conceptualize anything off script.
"I think it was something to the effect that Bin Laden determined to strike within the United States...."
/watch this drive
The Bush pundits and loyalists by any other name are currently busy spewing revionist claims, rather lies; all the kings horses and all the kings men can not revise this diasterous administration's failures no matter how hard they may try.
The reality is that not only is America tired of the lies, distortions, and denials; the world is equally anxious for this era to end. American and international history will not be revised by the spin from the likes of Rove or any of the nurmerious pundits. The revionists themselves and their attempts at justifying their failures will be a paragraph in history. A last ditch desperate example of their pathetic ways.
My feeling is that in these last months they have been busy "altering the books" so we'll never know the depths of their crimes. I just hope that bureaucrats have saved critical evidence. History needs to have these dark times on record for all to see forever.
Yes.
this prick needs to take blame himself.
Bush: The buck stops somewhere over there, don't bother me with trivial stuff. Hey, where is my hand sanitizer? And bring me another beer.
Obama: The buck stops with me...
It will be nice to actually have a president who is intelligent and takes his responsibilities seriously, once Obama is sworn in and Dubya is kicked out the door.
of pure manure. Either he is lying his ass off, or he was completely unaware that Cheney cooked the intelligence. Which makes him either an idiot or a criminal. I'll opt for BOTH!
I really don't think dubya has the brains to do much of anything. He was a puppet from the get-go, with someone else pulling the strings all along. The guy's just plain dumb. Criminally dumb.
needs to kick him in the face and shout: I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO!!!!
"Gibson: If the intelligence had been right, would there have been an Iraq war?
Bush: If he had had weapons of mass destruction, would there have been a war? Absolutely.
Gibson: No, if you had known he didn't.
Bush: Oh, I see what you're saying. Uh ... You know, that's an interesting question. That is a do-over I can't do. It's hard for me to speculate."
It's hard for him to speculate whether he would have invaded that country if he had known they had no wmd? Is he fu*king nuts?
He barely understands the material in front of him anyway.
And yes, I think he IS nuts. And stupid. And stubborn. And has a serious Daddy Complex. And a hundred other reasons why he has never had any business being anywhere near the Oval Office, but 8 years later, here we are.
It kind of tells you what his mindset is when he responds to Gibson's question 'Had the intelligence been different...?' by saying 'I wish there had been WMD's.' He was told the intelligence was flawed. There was contradictory intelligence. He cherry picked what he wanted and what would give him the easiest path to invade. The man belongs behind bars.
Cheney and he demanded the fabrications to get the leases into their friends hands and, for Cheney, to get the support contracts for KBR.
Classic bust-out. Just happened the enterprise in question was a country, not a business.
Everyone with a pulse knew everything related to the case for war with Iraq was fabricated. Jesus christ, how can a grown man like Gibson listen to this crap with a straight face? Why does he tolerate being lied to in interview?
You're about to declare war on another country, and you don't consider the possibility of error?
I'm all for being confident, but only the terminally stupid give no thought whatsoever to the possibility of failure. Understanding where one can screw up is necessary to understanding how to do anything right.
And regardless of the quality of the intelligence, Mr. Bush, you made the decisions here. You chose who to listen to, and who to ignore. None of this happened in a vacuum (except the empty space between your dishonest, lying ears).
Just like we ignored Pakistan and it's been reborn as a threat potentially armed with nuclear weapons, I'm sure we can look forward to seeing Iraq become a Shiite-dominated theocracy that will walk hand-in-hand with Iran. Your legacy, Sir, is a steaming pile of crap. I'll be surprised if your presidential library doesn't collapse under the weight of the lies contained therein.
And the thought of one day seeing an aircraft carrier bearing your name, or having sailors serving aboard it just makes me sick.
"The Bush administration began planning to use U.S. troops to invade Iraq within days after the former Texas governor entered the White House..."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/10/one...
King George the man-child propogates the lie that the intelligence was wrong, when in fact he and Cheney ignored intelligence that had said Saddam didn't have WMDs. What an a-hole!
No matter how many times Bush says it, thinks it or wishes it, that will not make it true.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
careless and uncaring.
Americans will forever scratch their head at how we elected this man to lead our nation.
Twice even :-(
The intelligence was right and they knew there were no WMDs when they invaded. Everything went exactly as planned and couldn't have worked out any better. They enriched their buddies in the defense department while keeping the Iraqi oil off the market allowing their other buddies in the oil business to have the largest profits in the history of the world. It also worked great for Katrina, they managed to enrich even more of their friends with that disaster. I am concerned that the revisionist will succeed in making W allot better than he was. They were successful in making Ronald Reagan out to be a great president and I didn't think that could happen.
...and the plan continues to work right now as they steal the homes out from under people, rob our retirement and other savings, and loot the rest of what's left in the US Treasury!
...I can't even bring myself to watch/listen to Bush as I know that whatever comes out of his mouth is bullshit.
LIES and the LYING LIARS who tell them. Too bad millions have to suffer because we're to stupid to elect and then re-elect a bunch of sociopaths. The damage he and his neo-con friends have caused will haunt us and the rest of the world for decades.
I hope someone in this country has the courage to prosecute
the ................ > I can't even think of a word horrible enough to describe him !!
I have been against the Iraq War since before it started.
GWB knew the intelligence wasn't any good from the beginning. The UN inspectors could not find WMD's even at locations that the intelligence said they were. He didn't tell the inspectors to keep looking. Bush told them to leave because our troops were coming. Bush and Company are war criminals and need to be brought to trial.
Has anyone noticed since August 2003 when Bush told the Israeli ministers that God told him to start this war that he cannot do anything right? He cannot hide anything. Bush is delusional. Instead of worrying about his legacy he should prepare for his Judgement Day.
Bush is a perfect example of why religion has become a way for bad people to kid themselves they are good people.
Notice that Failure Face can't bring himself to say "my presidency"?
Also there is nothing remotely "interesting" stupid,about whether inflicting years of war on Iraq would have been an option had you known he didn't have WMDs(which you probably already knew)because of course you would have gone ahead.You would have knowingly murdered the same amount of innocent people,or a Million more for that matter,simply because of the fact they're sitting on an ocean of OIL.Plus,Saddam's the guy that "tried to kill my Dad".You FUCK.
What excuse is government going to use for the "surge" in Afghanistan? Thought they was ahunting Al-Keeda, but now it has morphed into those e-vile Talibans. Stay tuned next week when the bombs will have to start dropping in Pakistan. Intelligence? Ha!
whats all the fuss about? bush started a war in afganistan and then moved the main show to iraq, while he left the dummies that he sent to afganistan to hold a rear guard action for the next bunch of dummies obamas going to send for a bush lie to afganistan for the porpose of secureing that oil and gas pipeline the corporations needed so badly, come on gang if your going to quibble about a million deaths in iraq whats going to wake you up to the fact you just traded one warmonger for another!
1) How is Obama a warmonger?
2) WTF do dolphin cousins have to do with it?
say you must have missed it, didnt you hear what he said? its on to afganistan and the big surge sounds like warmongering to me!
While I have never been a big Obama fan, I believe he intends to clean up the mess in Afghanistan, which BushCo has effectively ignored. If you recall, a couple of years ago Marine commanders were screaming to get out of Iraq and go back to Afghanistan where AQ was REALLY supported.
WaPo snippet from 11/11 re Afghanistan:
"The emerging broad strokes of Obama's approach are likely to be welcomed by a number of senior U.S. military officials who advocate a more aggressive and creative course for the deteriorating conflict. Taliban attacks and U.S. casualties this year are the highest since the war began in 2001.
Some military leaders remain wary of Obama's pledge to order a steady withdrawal of combat forces from Iraq, to be completed within 16 months -- an order advisers say Obama is likely to give in his first weeks in office. Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has called a withdrawal timeline "dangerous." Others are distrustful of a new administration they see as unschooled in the counterinsurgency wars that have consumed the military for the past seven years.
But conversations with several Obama advisers and a number of senior military strategists both before and since last Tuesday's election reveal a shared sense that the Afghan effort under the Bush administration has been hampered by ideological and diplomatic constraints and an unrealistic commitment to the goal of building a modern democracy -- rather than a stable nation that rejects al-Qaeda and Islamist extremism and does not threaten U.S. interests. None of those who discussed the subject would speak on the record, citing sensitivities surrounding the presidential transition and the war itself."
the definition of a banana peddler is a banamonger the defination of a pimp is a whoremonger, the definition of someone whos selling you more war in a country thats not yours is a warmonger! look it up!
IMHO, we have a moral obligation in Afghanistan going back to the arming of Bin Laden to battle the Russians. It is our mess to clean up. Am I happy about it, no way, but I recognize that it may be necessary.
I do not believe Obama is selling MORE war, just planning to finish what was started in the most effective way possible. Did you note, "more aggressive and creative course for the deteriorating conflict."? To me that suggests more than just a military solution is being planned.
watch the death counts increase withe every passing day of the new surge , look at the new pictures of mangled bodies of men women and children and tell me you can live with such murder, see the flag draped coffins comeing back watch the wives and children of the dead soldiers grieveing at the burials , look at the mentally tortured soldiers in the insane wards of the va hospitals, and then tell me it was all worth it, and unless your willing to go yourself and share in that glorious bone crushing blood bath dont tell me its worth it! i say its allways the the ones who dont have to go that seem to have high ideas of what is good for other countrys, ive been to the places warmongers never go, when obama sends his kids then ill know he believes in this war, they can pack bullets or beans for the grunts as long as thier there!
Here I was thinking we were having a rational discussion, my bad.
well seems to me your not listening , so ill make it so you can understand , will you join up and serve ? and do you approve of children being slaughtered and lastly what cleaning up are you talking about? thoes ak 47s we gave the afganys well got news for you thier not going to give them up without dieing, thoes stinger missals are mostly gone , afganistans mostly hills where the tribsmen live , and they dont like us being there, but they dont mind killing us , afganistans never been beaten in a war , the hills are covered with the bones of would be fools who tried to invade them, ,
Michelle, you seem to be a bit too "ideological", like you've thought about these things, but never actually served. On the other hand, tyree has been in the war zone and speaks from first-hand experience, as a personal witness to what he has written. There's your rational discussion.
Thanks for the insight tyree.
Thanks for your support.
I believe that nobody who has ever seen a war would want to go to war, like Patton said.
I am printing this thread to discuss with my PTSD counselor next week.
That remains to be seen.
While he was against the occupation of Iraq,Obama is certainly no Leftwing Dove by any reckoning.
I hope Shrub keeps giving these interviews because they make him look like the demented, stupid, sociopathic asshole that we have said he was all along.
now embedded in history. The only thing that would satisfy me is if the Bush Crime Family (with all it's minions) were deported. To now have to endure their reinvention of history and their well of excuses will be as repulsive as their reign of terror. How either of those frightening ppl can look in a mirror is beyond me.
deporting them to some random street in some random town in Iraq without any protection.
I'd love to have what transpires on video.
Barbara Bush: "You people are better off now that my son stepped in...hey, where are you taking me..."
And now as he packs up to leave, his final act is to try to screw the environment so badly that it can't be fixed for years to come.
And here I thought the intelligence was "darn good".
Now, where did I hear that from?
LIFE IN PRISON!!!!!
More like a lack of intelligence.
Use the criteria for crimes against humanity that put the kibosh (and noose) to the bullshit Nazi defense and rationalizations for this dipshit, clueless, moronic warmonger. If done, he'd be convicted and put to death. Evidence?? A unwarranted invasion of a sovereign nation that posed no threat to his country and that resulted in the deaths of at least 150,000 CIVILIANS. Case fucking closed.
It's goodbye shrub, hello Obama.
Appearances will change, for sure.
Policies, not so much.
His only friends must be the stuffed animals that he talks to and gets advice from because I cannot surmise why any rational person would be his friend or associate.
Is it wrong that I was pissed off after listening to that exchange. There are no words for the contempt that I have for the man. He sends my brother to fight his wars and can't even say that he was responsible for it or might have messed up.
*sigh* But, what else should I have expected? The truth? He'll go to his grave thinking his shit don't stink.
The only bad intelligence was and is between the Shrub's ears.
Several sources (Paul O'Neil, Richard Clark, etc.) have stated that the Shrub, from day one in his misadministration, was intending to remove Saddam by force. You can tell when Bush is lying: when his lips are moving—and even when they're not!
Where's he going to hide when he leaves office? I imagine he'll go to pieces quickly when left alone with his bottle.
shrub is truly a disgusting human being.
Just vile.
That's his story...and he's stickin' to it.
Worthless...pile...of steaming shit. He is a waste of human flesh. Why doesn't he do the country a favor and leave office now...don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Bush took the "bad intelligence" about WMDs, and the thousands of deaths that resulted, very seriously. While other people had quit, he kept looking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKX6luiMINQ
I read somewhere that Seymour Hersh wrote that once Shrub leaves office, administration insiders are going to be singing all over the place. Can anyone provide any more info about this or a link?
Amen to that. And we're tired of you too. 8 years too long as far as I'm concerned.
I HOPE Air-Force One's door hits you on the ass when you exit the air plane in Crawford.
Good riddance, Jerk-Off in Chief.
This is why I've been saying that Pelosi/Reid should have brought Impeachment proceedings forth a long time ago. Even without the votes to accomplish that, there would have been A RECORD of it.
Yes, unfortunately Pelosi and Reid were complicit in some of his crimes. Only Republicans have the chutzpah to impeach a president for something they themselves are doing (just ask Bob Livingston, Henry Hyde and Bob Barr).
Newt Gingrich - the BIGGEST hypocrite of them all.
I wish we could all forget Newt, but he just won't go away.
they had grew a spine and listened to Dennis. Now, Pelosi and Reid are just as guilty.
The high point of his administration? If he could have been honest (IMPOSSIBLE) he'd have said 9/11, at the moment of the administrations greatest failure (or manipulation) when he was given carte blanche by the weaklings in congress and the gullible public to do his worst. Only 47+ days to go. How much more damage can he do?? He's a lying sack of shit.
Was they made up the evidence to go into iraq.
I for one would be happy if the bastard had choked on his pretzil and died!
Just think about how many lives would have been spared and how much money we would have saved if he had never been president!
It wouldn't have mattered if Dubya had choked and died because Cheney would have picked up where he had left off.
I'm sure Cheney has been pulling the strings/making the decisions all along. Dubya was there for the photo ops.
Lying sack of shit. He smiles and sleeps while millions of people are dead. I hope karma, or the court, hits him hard.
ruined EVERY BUSINESS HE EVER RAN.
His daddy bailed him out of every stupid fucking business deal he ever made.
Do any of you honestly think that this jerk is EVER going to take any responsibility for ANYTHING?
He's not even sure he's alive at this point.
George W. Bush is a liar. OK, so what's new? The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were always about securing oil vis-a-vis the PNAC. Nothing more. Nothing less. These wars were not about WMD. Weapons of Mass Destruction were always known by the president and his "people" as pure D bullshit - Just a pathetic excuse to get at the oil. OIL = Operation Iraqi Liberation. When will U.S. citizens understand this? When will the progressive party start talking about the events of 9/11/01 and ask for a new investigation. When the truth comes out, Americans will be free. Until then, we're pretty well fucked and really (and I voted for him) Obama won't make a spit in the ocean of a difference. I do admit, it will be a nice change, no matter how impotent the effect of that change, to NOT have the prez looking squarely into the eyes of America and telling us to go fuck ourselves.
+1
The Burning Bush
Blistered souls float scattered about,
adrift on a sea of pain.
Crimson waves of death crest near,
as The Decider lies in vain.
Fear the horde, no, the other horde,
he plies throughout the land.
As our children’s children disintegrate,
perhaps an eye, or yet a hand.
He says he guards our very lives,
the existence of civilized man.
But in the alleys of ancient Baghdad,
America’s Best wish he’d share his plan.
Vacant cries of “who could have known?”,
amidst the pyres of World Trade.
Lay bare the myth of his compassion,
“My Pet Goat”, his cowardly shade.
Proxy war and proxy dead,
to The Shrub it matters not.
Provided Dick can exercise Options,
as long as Haliburton stays red-hot.
Treasure bled in flesh and gold,
across dunes of soulless oil.
Simmering cauldrons of historic hate,
churned to a gently rolling boil.
The Burning Bush admits no errors,
nor the ditch into which we’ve steered.
Back into the breach he madly proclaims,
after all, “you volunteered”
RJF
Not finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was Bush's biggest disappointment. now that is telling.
How many people could click on and watch this particular video?
I wouldn't.
I didn't watch the vid. Just can't do it.
I haven't been able to watch that g*dd*mned chimpanzee for a long time but I did click on this. Perhaps it's because I know he'll very soon just be the stain on America's underpants.
For the record he's just as smarmy as ever and very clearly back on the alcohol. Worth it for that. Maybe his conscience will punish him eventually.
"Staggeringly dim-witted" doesn't even BEGIN to cover it!
We hung Saddam and now everything is great.
> Bush: Oh, I see what you're saying. Uh ... You know, that's an interesting question. That is a do-over I can't do. It's hard for me to speculate.
Let me consult with Dick and I'll get back to ya.
The amount of deaths caused by Bush's Immoral War is one million from most of what I've read over all these years and from numerous online sources. On this thread the "tens of thousands", etc. are wrong. Here is more information on the Lancet surveys and how they are conducted. Bush and all his accomplices must be held on trial and punished for this outrage. The buck stops with him, he knows that.
He is such a clueless dope
I like how he says he did not compromise his principles. That's easy to say when you have none to begin with. Bush is a murdering psychopath who knows he's going to get off scott-free. He's sticking it in our faces and enjoying it.
Proud dubya laughing at his own jokes and the giggly exchange with Laura at the end of the clip made me want to hurl.
I just read it, cuz I can't watch this guy any more. I don't want to puke all over my desk.
He knew damn well, as they all did, they were making a case for the war they so desperately wanted. They got it and they were pleased as shit. So Bush you can fuck right off.
Bush determined to invade Iraq from Day One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaFE0mywaek
60 Minutes ~ Bush Planned on Invading Iraq Before 9/11
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2t_tDsZrk
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-D1jCZ31Uw
Even though this guy is almost done, I dislike him more and more. He just doesn't seemt to have any remorse for all the fucked up shit he has foisted on the entire world!!!!
The entire world knew that there were no WMD in Irak, but the so-called most powerful nation in the world suffered from "bad intelligence".
Someone owes the French an apology, don't you think?
Bush was either a retard by going to the extreme of going to war without 100% knowing there was WMD in Iraq, particularly when there was a lot of doubt from weapons inspectors and from his own intelligence that Iraq had WMD.
or
he did not really care whether Iraq had WMD and was going to war regardless.
Either way Bush is directly responsible for this crime and tragedy. The buck stops with him, as Obama would say.
I would also add who cares if Iraq had WMD? Almost all countries around the world have some form of WMD. That does not seem like a good enough reason to destroy a country of 27 million people, potentially killing as many as 1.0 million Iraqis, not even mentioning the heavy cost to the U.S., both in lives, money and reputation. Iraq has made us less safe not more safe.
Of course it was bad intelligence!! How else could valid intelligence that indicated someting other than what the Administration wanted to hear be countered, except to set up your own intelligence unit within the Department of Defense ubder Don Rumsfeld and led by neo-con Hawks. (Silly liberals!)
Intelligence is really almost always a best guess. What matters more is what you do with it.
What he really should be saying is that I regret the way we acted with the intelligence we had. That would be way more honest, unless of course he really did not care about the intelligence to begin with.
His comment about intellgience is his way in his peanut brain to justify to himself the actions he took. It is probably how he can sleep at night.
"Gibson: If the intelligence had been right, would there have been an Iraq war?
Bush: If he had had weapons of mass destruction, would there have been a war? Absolutely."
Because Saddam Hussein did not have WMD's, the intelligence was wrong. He indeed tells us here that there was nothing wrong with the intelligence.
Made me ashamed of this country, and want to bitch slap the living shit out of that fucktard!
GOOOD GOD what a useless simpleton that "man" is!!!!
Bush is worried about his legacy. He shouldn't worry. He has a legacy. Spying on US citizens, thousands of homes being repossessed, thousands of dead and wounded in Iraq (US and Iraqi). We know the truth about "bad intelligence". As soon as 9/11 occurred they were salivating at the possibility that Iraq was involved, and then when it was apparent that they weren't, they fitted the intelligence to the goal of invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam. They took the word of a lying snake in the grass (Chalabi) that they would be greeted as liberators. They didn't even plan for the possibility that he was wrong.
But then, maybe Bush is talking about Cheney and himself when he talks about "bad intelligence."
All forged documents as well as manipulated and falsified intelligence analysis are tracable back to the White House. Legitamate intelligence sources mostly said that Iraq had NO WMD and that illegally invading and occupying that nation would be a serious blunder. Hopefully bush will be reminded of this at his war crimes trial.
Whenever I read or hear that W is the worst president ever, all I can think is "I f*ing hope so. Please, please, please, let him be the worst we'll ever see in the White House.
I think we are safe for the next for years at least.
This asshole will walk out of the W/H and never be made to pay for what HE did to America People and the working class and the world. bush is still trying to F*#K up the Country with his last minute bills that are "BULLSHIT". And after bush leaves the UNITED STEATES trillions of dollars in the hole, millions of people unemployed "HE" will go back to home and "NEVER WORRY ABOUT PAYING HIS BILLS" WHILE THE REST OF "US" PAY HIM WITH OUT TAX DOLLARS FOR SUCH A GOOD JOB?
Yeah right. Mostly his OWN...
What about the fact that the Project For A New American Century(Cheney, Rumsfeld and others) stated in September 2000, in no uncertain terms, that the US should invade Iraq? Intelligence can say whatever you want it to if you start with a conclusion and work backward from there.
That's was exactly why he was appointed to eh White House. He promised them to invade Iraq in exchange for the Presidency. Iraq was the biggest opportunity to become rich quick. And they did.
OK, 24 hours later, I finally brought myself to watch this video.
What a steaming POS. "I stuck to my principles." I fucking hate people that say that. To me it translates as: I am an ideologue. I know already. I don't listen to anyone. I will never feel remorse. My ego is bigger than the solar system. I will not hurt my own pride. Facts are meaningless to me. Other people are meaningless to me. My pride and ego are the most inportant things in the universe; adore me. Only idiots say, "I stuck to my principles."
Then it went downhill from there. They're both steaming POS, as are the whole Bush junta, all their cronies, and so-called friends.
A failure of intelligence. His. PNAC's. Chicken Hawks' everywhere.
Bush is the W.P.E *only* with respect to the non-wealthy in the US. For his rich, royal & powerful owners/handlers/puppeteers he's done quite a good job. They got their wars (fucked it up, tho), tax cuts, deregulation, environmental rape rights, record profits, torture, shredded Constitution, stem cell ban, abstinence based baby boom, polarized population, unitary ezekitive power, NOLA out of the clutches of the colored, gitmo, extraordinary rendition, Fox News ratings, crotch bulging flight suit, politicized "justice" departments, employment act for Pat Robinson's "Law" Skool, got to say "Iffn yer not with us, er agin us" on TeeVee. Sekrit energy policy, All Childs Left Behind, US Gold Medal for number of signing statements. Evil majority on the SCOTUS. And who knows what else.
Failure is a relative term.
E Pleb Neesta,
Middle Class, Inc.
GODISNOWHERE
Blessed are the cheese makers.
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