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Jon Stewart took CNN apart over their insipid fact-checking of a SNL skit about President Obama while never having the time to give us REAL FACTS about health-care reform when their guests come on and lie. CNN and most cable networks allow health-care obstructionists like Sen. Kyl and Orrin Hatch to throw out bogus facts all day long without ever questioning their validity, and it is frustrating.

Stewart nails CNN for always saying "We're out of time," and never getting to the truth. And then we have the FRC's Tony Perkins, who claims there are really only 5-10 million uninsured people in America.

Perkins: ...when you get down to a hard core number, it's about 5-10 million that can't afford health care. Out of a nation of 330 million that's a small percentage.

Stewart: Without an explanation he went from 30 million uninsured down to you know the hard core number. 5 or ten million. Well that's pretty close...it's only double.

And the ultimate slap in the face is when TDS clips together almost every anchor saying: "We'll leave it there."

Stewart: There are 24 hours in a day, how much more time do you need? CNN's new slogan: Nobody Leaves More Things There.



Huckabee wins the wingnut straw poll

Mike Huckabee is still a favorite among the James Dobson crowd as Sarah Palin was a no show at their Value Voters Summit weekend wingnut jubilee.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee won the Values Voter Summit's 2012 presidential straw poll Saturday, grabbing nearly 29 percent of the vote in a crowded field.

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Indiana Rep. Mike Pence each won roughly 12 percent of the 597 votes cast.

Four of the top five candidates addressed religious conservatives at the three-day Values Voter conference in Washington this week — the kind of attendance seen as a significant gesture by activists here, especially in an off-election year. Palin did not make an appearance.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, which hosted the conference, said Saturday that Huckabee had "potential," but stressed that the former governor's strong showing wouldn't translate into automatic support from the FRC's political action committee. "We want a fully-rounded conservative candidate," he said. "Right now, the door's wide open."

If Palin had showed up and winked at the crowd, her base would have responded in kind, but it's tough going to these things for the quitter. She'll be there in a few years and whip the religious conservative base up into a frenzy.

And Huckabee shows off his foreign policy chops by backing the insane John Bolton over the Pentagon and the White House. There you have it...


FRC spokesman calls Dr. Tiller, Dr. Killer by mistake

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Contessa Brewer of MSNBC laid out the argument to Cathy Ruse, an FRC spokesman, who condemned the assassination---that if the police were looking for a mass murderer, which is how Dr. Tiller had been portrayed by the anti-choice movement, they would take him out with deadly force. So their arguments against Dr. Tiller were absurd. She got a little flustered and let something slip out that she probably wish she hadn't.

Brewer: Look at the logic of it. If we knew that a mass murderer was running around, our law enforcement would do everything in their power to stop them and in that moment if a life was going to be taken, they would take that mass murderer out. So it would be a life, so if you believe or if someone believes that an abortion doctor is a mass murderer, I don't know if logic is on your side there.

Ruse: This man who killed Doctor Killer, ahhh Doctor Tiller, excuse me, was apparently part of a movement, an anti-government movement who believe that they are not held within the law...

OK, a slip of the tongue, maybe...but then she cited facts that were not true.

Ruse: Interestingly, all the abortions that were done at 22 weeks and beyond by Tiller and others had been done for non emergency reasons so....

How does Ruse know this? Does the FRC know the medical history of every case that Dr. Tiller and others worked on? And at no time did Ruse ever mention the health of the mother. It's like a mother doesn't even exist in their thoughts. And when you call people mass murderers long enough, violence is sure to follow. It's what David Neiwert has been writing about for a long time and his book (The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right) highlights. The violent rhetoric of the far right has great influence to lead people down a violent path.


GOP/FOX Debate Open Thread

FOX Noise has one that started 5PM PST. Right Wing Watch was at the Dobson/Value Voters affair and has a bunch of posts published on it including the contested vote count.

Candidate Name ... Percentage
1. Mitt Romney ... 27.62 %
2. Mike Huckabee ... 27.10 %
3. Ron Paul ... 14.98%
4. Fred Thompson ... 9.77 %
5. Sam Brownback ... 5.14 %
6. Duncan Hunter ... 2.42 %
7. Tom Tancredo ... 2.30 %
8. Rudy Giuliani ... 1.85 %
9. John McCain ... 1.40 % results via TPM

Looks like Hannity had no influence on Dobson's gang and his worship of Giuliani. And the word is that the FRC may run Tony Perkins as a third party candidate...Desi has some FRC gear....

UPATE: John Cole has a series of questions for the candidates...Here's one:

6.) For Rudy specifically: “How many alimony checks does the sanctity of marriage cost?”