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BBC's Hilary Andersson took a concealed carry class with a group of teachers in Texas and discovered that using guns in schools without harming innocent children was a lot more more difficult that she had imagined.

To follow up on the mass shooting of 20 elementary school children late last year in Connecticut, BBC on Monday planned to air a Panorama special report called "America's Gun Addiction."

In a preview of Monday night's broadcast, Andersson attends a free concealed gun class that is being offered to teachers by Austin firearms instructor Johnny Price.

"Obama's out there trying to take our guns and high-cap mags," Price warns the dozens of teachers attending his class. "Guns founded America. We didn't do it on bows and arrows."

After the target practice portion of the course, Andersson admits: "It's harder than I thought it would be."

"You got your crotch area and that's always good," Price notes as he reviews the bullet holes in the BBC reporter's target. "But you got your points here. You passed."

Price adds that one bullet had "pushed" to the outside of human silhouette area on the target.

"You push, you take out a child," he explains.

But Price insists that he still believes that guns have a place in the classroom.

"Those teachers up in Connecticut, they begged, they pleaded, they cried, the kids cried," he says. "But he kept pulling the trigger. The only thing that would have stopped him was one concealed handgun. One teacher properly trained with a firearm could have stopped him."

"But you told me I would have just killed a child there," Andersson notes.

"Did I say you're ready to carry in a school?" Price shoots back. "No. Are you ready for it? No. It takes more training."



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Hosts of the Atheist Experience cable access show in Austin hung up on a Christian caller over the weekend after he suggested that God might not stop the rape of a little girl because the victim was also "evil."

A Christian viewer from Phoenix named Shane called in to Sunday's show with the hopes of convincing host Matt Dillahunty and co-host Tracie Harris that the fact that even atheists had a "moral code" proved of the existence of God.

"Divine command theory, the religious proposition that God dictates morality is in fact immoral," Dillahunty explained to the caller. "It forces you to sacrifice your humanity and pollutes your moral compass because you are stuck doing whatever this God supposedly says is good, whether or not it's actually good. And we already know that there are, for example, commands in the Bible that are not morally correct."

"I think you're more moral than your God and you just haven't figured it out yet," Harris added.

"Why is God so immoral?" the caller asked.

"I don't think that God exists but if we're talking about the God character in Bible as God is represented, you know, it's a pretty horrible, jealous, angry being that advocates slavery," Dillahunty pointed out. "I don't know why he's that way. Maybe he's just a dick."

"You either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and says, 'When you're done, I'm going to punish you,'" Harris agreed. "If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That's the difference between me and your God."

"First of all, you portray that little girl as someone who's innocent, she's just as evil as you," the caller shot back.

With that comment, Dillahunty disconnected the call.

"Goodbye, you piece of shit!" he exclaimed. "You know what? I was a better Christian than you when I was a Christian, and I still am."

The entire the Atheist Experience broadcast is available here.



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A gun store owner near Austin, Texas -- who has previously refused to do business with Muslims or Obama-voting liberals -- is offering teachers a discount on training for conceal-carry permits because he believes the solution to mass shootings is to have more guns in schools.

Keller's Riverside Gun Store owner Crockett Keller told KRLD on Monday that the recent slaughter of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut had prompted him to offer a special deal to teachers.

"As we do with veterans, I would offer them a discount," Keller said. "Our normal rate is $110. So, I would give them a rate of $90. If they are teachers, we would be more than happy to do that."

"I think we need to lobby our various state governments to allow teachers to be armed," he added. "We have airline pilots that now carry pistols or weapons of some sort -- firearms -- and same thing to, I think, need to happen in these gun-free zones that are so dangerous."

But Houston Federation of Teachers President Gayle Fallon told the station that the idea of arming teachers was crazy.

"I knew this would come up at some point, there would be people who think the answer is to put guns on campus," Fallon explained. "Frankly, I think it’s absurd."

"In a lot of cases, the perpetrator is a kid. Look at Columbine, it was a 14-year-old kid. You tell me a teacher is going to look in the eyes of a 14-year-old and pull the trigger — it’s not in their emotional make up."

Keller, however, insisted that any place without guns was "at risk."

"I don't go to Mexico anymore because I can't carry my weapon there," the Texan said. "It's a killing field within itself. We need to start thinking out of the box and deal with this violent culture."

In a radio advertisement for concealed-carry classes last year, Keller vowed not to instruct anyone who was a "socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner-in-chief."

"Also, if you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class," he said in the ad. "Once again, with no shame, I am Crockett Keller. Thank you and God bless America."

The Texas Department of Public Safety briefly investigated Keller but dropped the investigation after they said he "affirmed that he would not refuse instruction to anyone based on national origin, race or religion."

Keller's Riverside Gun Store continues to sell a T-shirt that reads: "If you are Muslim and will not pledge allegiance to the United States of America, I will not sell you any firearm or accessory. -Crockett Keller, Jesus Akbar."

Republican Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert on Sunday also said that schools would be safer if the principal at Sandy Hook had been armed with an M4 carbine assault rifle designed for urban warfare.

"I wish to God she had had an M4 in her office locked up," Gohmert opined. "So, when she heard gunfire she pulls it out and she didn’t have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands, but she takes him out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids."