It seems the John Birch Society wasn't too happy about Rachel Maddow's December 18th show and some of the things she said about them promoting conspiracy theories. Sadly for the John Birch Society as Rachel notes, there is a public record that contradicts their complaints. I agree with her on their sponsorship of CPAC this year. Given the direction the Republican Party is headed, it just looks like a natural fit.

One last note on the potential future of the Repulican Party and its ties to the John Birch Society and Sarah Palin. Does anyone besides myself think that this picture might have led to why Palin had so much trouble telling Katie Couric what she read and that McCain's handlers might have told her not to bring up the John Birch Society, and her brain fried when trying to think of anything else when answering? That's just my own personal theory of why she vapor locked and couldn't give her an answer and that may very well be wrong, but I'd love to know if anyone else was thinking the same thing when they watched her.

Transcript via Lexis Nexis.

MADDOW: So, it`s almost Christmas. And this year, there are a lots of movies battling for the "I want to sit in the dark and not talk to my family anymore" box office bounty that Christmas tends to bring. There`s the new Sherlock Holmes movie. Romantic comedy with Meryl Streep and Alec Baldwin; "Avatar"; the long-awaited "Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel."

And there`s "Invictus," the feel-good movie starring Matt Damon and Morgan Freeman. The inspirational story of Nelson Mandela and the South African rugby team.

Inspirational to some, sure -- but not to the John Birch Society, who had posted an article about the new Matt Damon movie on their Web site, which declares that, quote, "Mandela is nothing more than a communist terrorist thug."

We talked about that article and about the John Birch Society itself on this show last week, when it was announced that the John Birch Society would be a co-sponsor of this year of CPAC, the big influential Conservative Political Action Conference which takes place every spring.

That communist conspiracy that they wanted to rout and their fevered imaginings included President Dwight Eisenhower. According to the John Birch Society at that time, Ike was, quote, "a dedicated conscious agent of the communist conspiracy."

The John Birch Society also contended that fluoride being added to drinking water was a communist mind control plot and they contended that the secret conspiracy to destroy America encompassing everything from that darn fluoride to the League of Women Voters and the Civil Rights Act.

The John Birch Society was, in fact, so opposed to civil rights that they responded to the Supreme Court`s Brown v. Board of Education decision to desegregate schools with billboards calling for the impeachment of the Supreme Court`s chief justice.

Now, the John Birch Society came after us for that last week, saying that we totally got it wrong. For example, they`re claiming now that their campaign to impeach Earl Warren was not for his role in ending discrimination against African-Americans in the South. They said that it had nothing at all to do with that. It had nothing to do with the Supreme Court`s decision to desegregate schools.

You know, if I were in the John Birch Society today, I would want people to think that, you know, I hadn`t wanted to impeach a Supreme Court justice because of Brown v. Board of Education. I wouldn`t want anybody to think that. I understand.

Unfortunately, there is a record here. There`s an actual record of what the John Birch Society said it was doing at that time and why, quote, "The communists had used the racial question as grist for their mills for 30 years, and ground out nothing but amazing disappointments for themselves. Not until the Supreme Court decision of May 17th, 1954 -- Brown v. Board -- did they even begin to make any head way in their nefarious aims. And that defiant reversal simply by judicial decree of our long-established law is quite justly known as the Earl Warren decision."

But wait, there`s more. Quote, "The fact that Warren could remain on the Supreme Court after such arrogant disregard of the Constitution, of the principles of English-American law, and of his own oath of office, as were shown in the school segregation cases, was decidedly reassuring to the liberal establishment, it encouraged communists and their dupes and sympathizers."

The John Birch Society, co-sponsor of this year`s CPAC wanted to impeach Earl Warren for desegregating schools. It`s in the record -- even if they don`t want it to be.

And while we`re on the subject of the co-sponsor of this year`s CPAC and race, how about this ad placed by the John Birch Society in the August 29th, 1960 edition of "The Birmingham News"? It`s titled, "What`s Wrong With Civil Rights?"

It says, quote, "The average American Negro`s security of person and assurance of honorable treatment by his fellow citizens in all of the utilitarian relationships of living have been exactly on par on par with those of his white neighbors."

So, what is all the complaining about? The complaining or the civil rights movement, as we`ve come to know it, according to the John Birch Society was actually a secret communist plot to create, and I quote, "a Negro Soviet Republic in the United States." The exact boundaries of which were undetermined but which would definitely include cities like Richmond, Virginia, and New Orleans and Memphis.

You got that in civil rights secret plot to establish a Negro Soviet Republic, so says the cosponsor of this year`s CPAC conference.

Another issue the nice people at the John Birch Society say that we got wrong on this show was their position on the fluoridation of drinking water. In their online retort to our segment from last week, the John Birch Society said it never labeled fluoridation of water as a communist mind control plot, because that sounds crazy, right? They wrote that actually, the John Birch Society opposed water fluoridation because it represented, quote, "a precedent for the socialized medicine Maddow supports."

I know they would love that to be true. But, well, here`s a page from the March 1960 John Birch Society bulletin. You`ll see that there is a section here at the bottom of the page -- do we have here? Yes.

A section at the bottom of page 13 titled, "How to Defeat Fluoridation in Your City." After advising the reader to paper his or her city council school board PTA and church community with anti-fluoridation pamphlets, the John Birch Society warns, quote, "If you live in a large enough city, or if the communists have been able to beguile a sufficiently large enough, powerful enough, and determined enough clique into supporting fluoridation, the above formula, alone, may not stop them."

John Birch Society, you may wish that you hadn`t said that fluoridation was a secret communist plot -- but you did in writing, and we have a library card.

I do have to say though that the most amusing complaints/clarification against us by the John Birch Society was this. They wrote, quote, "The John Birch Society ways always cautious in accusing people of being part of a conspiracy."

All right, gather around here for a second. I know we`re on the eve of a holiday and everything, and I just want to read to you for a sec from the minutes of the first meeting of the John Birch Society National Council on January 9th, 1960. We got this document, thanks to a freelance researcher named Ernie Lazar. He`s used FOIA request to the FBI and original John Birch Society records to put together a pretty amazing archive of the group`s history.

So, this is John Birch Society founder Robert Welch. "Today, gentlemen, I can assure you without the slightest doubt in my own mind that the take-over at the top is, for all practical purposes, virtually complete. Whether you like it or not, and whether you believe it or not, our federal government is already literally in the hands of the communists. Our Congress now contains a number of men who are certainly actual communists, and plenty more who are sympathetic to communist purposes for either ideological or opportunistic reasons."

He then lists a number of contemporaneous members of Congress at that time, including John F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey. And he says they`re definitely commies or at least commie symphs.

And then there`s this, quote, "Our Supreme Court is so visibly pro- communist that no argument is even needed. Our State Department is loaded with communists from top to bottom, to the extent that our roll call of ambassadors almost sounds like a list somebody has put together to start a communist front. It is estimated, from many reliable sources, than from 70 percent to 90 percent of the responsible personnel in the Department of Health, Education and Welfare are -- guessed it -- communists.

Our Central Intelligence Agency under Allen Dulles is nothing more nor less than an agency to promote communism throughout the word. Almost all of the other departments are loaded with communists and communist sympathizers. And this generalization most specifically does include our whole Defense Department."

But, remember, the John Birch Society has always been very cautious about accusing any one of being part of a conspiracy. You know, except for that one time when they accused everybody of being part of a giant conspiracy.

Listen, the John Birch Society denying it ever made those accusations is almost as ridiculous as believing that had been taken over by communists in the first place.

So, CPAC and modern conservative movement choosing to align itself with these guys, letting these guys cosponsor a mainstream conservative event like the Conservative Political Action Conference in February -- I mean, that`s just -- it`s, well, wait. On the one hand, given what the John Birch Society was and is, it is kind of hysterical that CPAC has chosen to align itself with them. On the other hand, given the state of the conservative movement today, maybe this is a natural coming together.

Certainly a lot of people calling other people commies now.

Listen, if I were the John Birch Society, I wouldn`t want people to know these things about my record, either. But your record is your record, and when confirmed speakers at next year`s CPAC like Tim Pawlenty and Mitt Romney get up to speak at that event, they will be speaking at an event cosponsored by the John Birch Society. And maybe then it will be worth asking if they also think that the civil rights movement was a secret plot to turn, say, Arkansas into a Negro Soviet Republic.



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Huh - -
Lately the headlines don't seem to agree with the video clips ........ is this part of the conspiracy ??

what headlines?

Apparently it's happening to only some of us, because some people seem not to notice.

Is it only MSNBC clips?

This may be a problem with Safari browser. I opened Firefox and videos linked properly.

but I notice that the vids from you tube are accurate. Hello, John, Something needs attending to!

anymore. Slop is pretty much standard.

Woke up this morning. No toys, nothin'. Not even a crappy Chia Pet.

Santa passed me by AGAIN! :)

you don't have a chimney?

Damn! I live in an apartment! I hadn't thought of that!

and a plate with carrots and cookies.. :)

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...his eyesight isn't what it used to be...

carrots for the reindeer!!!!
holy cow.
am I that old?

Dr. Maddow doing what the "Media" should all be doing.

If the GOP-baggers are regressing as far as the Birchers they will lose more than they will gain. It is like they aren't even trying to be serious.

We really do need reasonable and thoughtful opposition. Although both parties fail to do so in or out of power.

And - Maddow is very polite and doesn't call the JBS out for being completely racist - through and though. But I just did it for her.

The hate is getting worse but it will be the end of the GOP. (Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch)

Waste of time they have been around since the 50's.

Raising money and buying politicians.

...she gives me hope not everything is lost in America, she's a precious minority though...

The MSM has just convinced most Americans that they are dumb and inadequate and powerless.

No offense meant to Crooks & Liars, but I would like for someone in the national media to point the spot light at what is going on here in Maricopa County. County Attorney Thomas and Sheriff Arpaio are making the John Birch Society almost look tame by comparison.

They have filed a civil conspiracy suit against the Maricopa Board of Supervisors, numerous judges and lawyers. They have charged two Supervisors with numerous crimes, one judge and are looking to indict anyone who speaks out against them and their rampant racial profiling and abuse of power.

They have opened an investigation into the State's Attorney General in order to create a "conflict of interest" and can be seen in this video, they truly believe they are above the law.

Its time to use the awesome power of the blogs to bring down these two.

again. That's the way you fight this kind of abuse of power.

Citizens have become so soft though that's not likely.

During the 60's civil rights movement as example, people didn't sit around blogging. They marched, they confronted the oppressors, they risked bodily harm, and jail.

I hope Rachel always has her own show, much success to her in 2010 and beyond. This information can really help people understand the realities of the GOP, a real public service.

I think the birthers are serious as a heart attack. I think the Republican PARTY is in it for the money.

The party has become a business plain and simple. Scare the villagers, get their money, pay the pundits and think tanks, think tanks and FOX employs the politicians while out of office, collect donations from corporations, try to win some local elections and affect local policies.

And if the policies destroy America, too bad for America. They can't change their business plan now.

But the people running the party don't even believe their own crap. They know it's all a con. They tell the villagers the world works in the way they want to believe it works. REAL Americans are white and live in the sticks. They're poor because they're honest, not dumb. Terrorists have an interest in rural America. etc. etc. etc.

they are using the "holier than thou" model of the flaming religious. send your money to god, via me, and you will be saved from the godless desecraters of our pure land.

take over School Boards in the 1960's, they found a way to take over a major US Political party,and marginalize it.

Rachel is the real thing. She is what so many wish they were. Actual investigative reporting. I get so nostalgic when I see her do her thing.

One of the reasons Americans do not have such wonderful teeth as the British is because of the sensible idea of floridation in the water systems.
Maybe these reactionaries ought to find something else to frighten their followers with than proven practical solutions..

...the kid from Brazil who was repatriated.

Something is funny, hack attack?

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I just tried the links and they all worked correctly. FWIW

Doesn't work for me. This video links to something about the queen praising the troops now, earlier it was pointing to Sean Goldman as were others (but not all).

mailto: sitemonitor1[at]gmail[dot]com

When I was a high school student in an upper middle class pasty white high school in a pasty white upper middle class and very wealthy town, my home room teacher (who also taught Problems of Democracy) was playing a tape of a member of the John Birch Society who lectured in his class that day. The year was 1964

What really caught my attention was when this pasty white man stated infactically that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was someday going to be assassinated. Four years later he was.

I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but I often wonder if there was a connection and strongly feel that the John Birch Society should be thoroughly investigated and watched. They're a true threat to democracy.

Don't under estimate that group.

Somebody organized some serious right wing rioting (of thousands which require serious logistics) and attempted lynchings, plus they tried to assassinate Paul Robeson at a free concert in NY state..

You don't have to wear a tin foil hat to believe that Ray was not the lone assassin, most likely he was just a patsy who didn't even know the hit was going to take place. The evidence against him was all faked. The only person who claimed to see him in the building where the shot was fired from admitted later that he was drunk at the time and said what he said due to pressure from the cops. His wife, who wanted to tell a different story, was institutionalized by law enforcement officials who didn't want her to. It was a lot easier to do involuntary commitments back then. King's family long ago came to believe that Ray deserved a second, real trial and have openly said so.

The John Birch Society has always been awash in ultra-right-wing cash, but didn't have a viable outlet for it. A CPAC/Bircher alliance was was just a matter of when Birchers became acceptable to enough regular Conservatives. The GOP is moving so far right they're about to encompass the flat earthers.

She backs everything she says with documented proof.
BUT....I truly HOPE she has at least a couple of body guards because those people, the FAMILY CULT, the John Birch Bunch and others ARE DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATHS.
MSNBC....keep her and Kieth as long as you can. They, and Ed and a couple others are the only line of defense against the propaganda machine.
By the way, I hope others are paying attention to Beck. Each and Every "bad guy" he attempts to connect to Obama and the "libruls" REALLY ARE tied to "the FAMILY", C STREET CULT. HITLER, Bin Ladin, Pol Pot, the Mafia, who KNOWS the full extent.

Every year at the San Diego County Fair, AKA the Del Mar Fair, the Birchers, (Birthers?) have a booth in one of the exibition halls. Normally, I avoid them like the plague. One year I couldn't resist it when the idiot on duty asked me if I "wanted to argue?" I said that I would if he could tell me who John Birch was. I, of course knew from having read Theodore White's "In Search of History." But this dumbfuck didn't even know who his hero had been. I told him to come back when he knew what the fuck he was talking about. Nothing worse than an ill informed zealot.

I get all excited when you politics talk like that girl! That was an absolutely beautiful report.

and a Negro Soviet Republic might just be better than what we have, what with the Family Cult guy Pryor and the plantation Belle Blanche voting for every corporatist bill that comes their way and against any bill that would in any way be of help to the people.

A long history of oppression.

History they dare not teach in US schools.

my father spoke out against the John Birch society at a public PTA meeting at our school, protesting leaflets being passed out to schoolchildren.

For several weeks after, a black car would slowly follow my sister and me as we walked home from school, until I - more puzzled than scared - told my father about it. It was the Birchers, trying to terrorise our family.

I won't go into details, but it stopped shortly after. And my dad was my hero, on so many levels.

The John Birch Society is not a nice group of people.

If I recall correctly there was a funny/serious folk song back in the early 60's (When I was in College) by the Chad Mitchell Trio called "The John Birch Society." Could anyone find and post it please. We need a serious laugh.

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=686

This link has audio file of a live Bob Dylan performance of “Talkin’ John Birch Paranoid Blues”, plus a link to the YouTube album cut (“Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan”) as well as interesting notes regarding censorship of the song and its performance.

http://www.buzztwang.com/2009/09/talkinjohn-b...

This link also links to YouTube clip plus provides lyrics.

Funny, now Rachel looks like the Queen.
What gives with the videos ???

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Communism. They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means...

If I ever talk to a Bircher, I'll ask them for their definition of communism.

that I'm not the only one who has that scene repeat in my mind every time I hear Beck or Palin or most about any tea bagger starts talking about socialism, nazis, communism, etc.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I will cheerfully bear her children. Occasional forays into over-goofiness aside, I think she's brilliant, and confident, and, most especially, god-damned well prepared...

For me too the videos and headlines don't match up. It's been this way for a few days now. Is it a Mac/Safari prob?

At first I thought C&L was making a point, linking every insightful headline to silly links, observing how the media is missing the real stories and concentrating on the banal. We progs think too deeply!

Rachel's first broadcast of that evening did not have all the correct quotations shown on screen matching her narrative. However, they subsequently corrected the problem. If you want to see the correct version here is the link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/34581...

Yes, seems to be a Safari / msnbc video linking problem. I have no problem with other videos in safari and no problems with any videos when running Firefox or Netscape Navigator.

and experiencing the same behavior

The Mitchell Trio nailed 'em. It's still relevant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG6taS9R1KM

LINKIES DON'T WORKIE...

[I'm going to assume you're referring to the video. I'll bet a dollar that you are browsing with Safari. There's something funky going on between MSNBC embedded videos and Safari. If you've got another browser, we suggest that you use that for the time being. Thank you. Site Monitor]

The Chad Mitchell Trio released a hilarious update of the John Birch Society titled the George Bush Society W as in George W. Bush. Why not-Shrub has attracted the same wingnuts whose parents or grandparents supported the Birchers.

JBS

My nephew, has become enamored with the JBS--they have taught him more than anything else about history (they have videos!). His response to this review would be something like, "I used to like JFK, but now I am not so sure." It isn't just communists, it is really the New World Order, which is a corporate-communist-fascist-globalist conspiracy headed by Al Gore, David Rockefeller and now Maurice Strong (see Jesse Ventura--it comes from the LaRouche Group). The goal is to enslave the world, reduce the population by 75%, and install a world government modeled after the Chinese. And if you don't believe this you are just a naive, brainwashed tool of MSM. So the fact that JBS is a racist organization is really the least of his worries.

You probably know this, but your reference to a NWO "conspiracy" to "enslave the world" etc. has been a standard extreme right doom prediction for more than 7 decades. For some historical context see:

http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/doom

This report explains why J. Edgar Hoover and senior FBI officials described the JBS in FBI memos as "extremist", "irrational" and "irresponsible".

http://ernie1241.googlepages.com/jbs-1

I thought the Maddow report on the JBS was superficial and silly. Many of the JBS positions are readily embraced by the "left". I feel reasonably sure that Allen Dulles was part of the JFK murder and there has most certainly been a push for power by the Federal Gov in the last 50 years. Is this Communism? It can be if we continue on our given path with the multitudes on food stamps, unemployment, health care, government housing, schools, job programs...etc. I am not a JBS sympathizer or member but to me, it's clear Maddow doesn't know her history and her "coy, I know it all" delivery lacks in any realm of journalism.

yeah, all this government housing, unemployment, etc., its all communism. Sure, has nothing, not a damn thing to do with compassion that a strong nation extends to its weaker members. Nothing patriotic or American about that. Puh-leaze!

Bull....shit!

I very pleased to understand your world is so utterly black & white. That you're either with us or against us...sound familiar? I have marched & protested, wrote my share of letters and emails, participated in boycotts both locally and beyond, fought our military establishment in court and more. So your simple assessment of me for my comments is just that. It's very "Bush-like".

If you wish, go to YouTube and view a couple of the videos there by JBS founder Robert Welch. I think you will find several items of discussion within those videos aligned with many of your principles. Were there some racists within that organization who were single-mindedly against the Civil Rights Act...yes. I am always for helping my fellow citizens in need and have great compassion for most on this planet who live a life full of depravity. Here are some links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GBW9rdGeEI&fe...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co73TDl_F7E&fe...

" I think you will find several items of discussion within those videos aligned with many of your principles"

???

Again, bullshit.
No I do not

The JBS is the fringe of the fringe as it were.
I know, the JBS headquarters are less that 2 miles away from were I sit and type.
Everything I have read at the website is anti humane and pro right wing aka Christian. Which I am not.
Trying to defend this wingnuttery is making you look a little kooky.
You do know that right?

I understand your sentiment zeboz. I'm not selling anything here. You sound like a right winger in that you compare all Christians to right-wingers which we both know isn't true. When I heard Maddow almost defend Allen Dulles to make some of her shallow points, that was it for me. If you don't know who this man is, I suggest you research him and his brother. They are not proponents of a democratic republic. I grew up with the words "conspiracy theorists" so loosely used after the murder of JFK. The words themselves have been denoted as "kooky" (as you like to use) and have been used to diminish or even destroy key evidence aligned with so many serious events like, JFK, The Federal Reserve, Vietnam, 9-11, and more. Maddow is just not very wise to me...sorry if that ruffles the feathers of her fans. Aside from that zeboz....I wish you and yours a Happy New Year.

:)

And I yours.

As usual Rachel Madcow does another poor and misinformed smear peace.
The civil rights act :
The John Birch Society was completely in line with the constitution. They maintain the granting of legal rights by the big brother government is part of the communist manifesto.
How is that? It goes back to the illegal 14th amendment which created a new class of slave who's rights are decided and controlled by the FED government. Birchers, as well as the Americans who fought that civil war at the time maintained, the freed slaves should have been declared sovereign with natural rights (also called moral rights or unalienable rights) are rights which are not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of a particular society or policies.
Our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution with its Bill of Rights, are based on the idea of individual rights derived from natural law.
America established the first and only time in human history, a country of sovereigns.


Fluoride in the water
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Fluoride in the water, read up on the history of it. Who came up with that scam ?
The first use of fluoridated drinking water was in the Nazi prison camps in Germany, thanks to the Rockefeller notorious pharmaceutical giant, I.G. Farben. This was the company that ran camps like Auschwitz and it still exists as its constituent parts like Bayer. Does anyone think the Nazis did this because they were concerned for the teeth of the inmates? This mass medication of water supplies with sodium fluoride was to sterilize the prisoners and force them into quiet submission. Charles Perkins, a chemist, wrote the following to the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on October 2nd 1954:

"…In the 1930's, Hitler and the German Nazis envisioned a world to be dominated and controlled by a Nazi philosophy of pan-Germanism. The German chemists worked out a very ingenious and far-reaching plan of mass-control, which was submitted to and adopted by the German General Staff. This plan was to control the population in any given area through the mass medication of drinking water supplies. By this method they could control the population in whole areas, reduce population by water medication that would produce sterility in women, and so on. In this scheme of mass-control, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place."

Ask yourself, do you feel America is rising or falling ?
For the first time in human history, a government was established “By the people and for the people”.
Keep following the likes of Rachel Madcow who work very hard at deception to destroy it.

Northpal: You describe Rachel's presentation as "a typical leftist smear job" and "poor and misinformed smear piece".

Two questions for you:

(1) Can you identify ANY critic of the Birch Society who you DO NOT consider to be presenting a "smear job" -- i.e. someone you consider to be a knowledgeable, thoughtful, honorable and principled opponent of the JBS?

(2) Do you consider J. Edgar Hoover to be a "leftist"? And are you aware that both Robert Welch and the JBS effusively praised Hoover as our country's most knowledgeable, reliable, and authoritative source of data on the communist movement as well as on what constituted legitimate and effective anti-communist endeavors?

If you are aware of the JBS position regarding Hoover and the FBI -- then how do you explain the fact that they arrived at the same conclusion about Welch and the JBS as Rachel Maddow?

But you're trying to establish guilt by association, and trying to make the case that one ill-conceived viewpoint invalidates every thought a person has, or closes a discussion before it begins.

I didn't even watch the Maddow video, and don't care much about it, but I can assume it's an attempt to act snide and superior and paint a group as "kooky" and thereby close the entire discussion. Personally, I say the more people who are passionate and willing to stick their necks out to make what they perceive as a difference, the better for society. It's a lot easier to mock people, and for progressive A-holes to pat each other on the back and congratulate each other on their wit and righteousness than it is to stand for something--misguided or not--and be mocked.

How are all the righteous leftists, now that they're in charge, doing with war, economics, and human rights these days? Oh, they're utter failures, sell-outs and frauds. But the problem with this world is people like the Birchers!

Rachel. Gotta love you, gal. You're dead on about the JBS. I wrote a fairly lengthy paper about them in the 60s and I can testify, having done extensive research, that everything you say is not only 100% true but can be easily documented. The only difference is that back then several members of the GOP had the courage to denounce the Birchers. Fancy that.

Wow, this is very productive. I guess the goal is to make "progressives" feel superior. Don't ever focus on holding the guy we elected accountable. That wouldn't be very soothing at all. Might be kind of a downer.

Let's find someone who isn't "enlightened" like us, form a circle, and throw rocks at them. We call this progress!

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