McCain: Obama has failed bipartisanship test
By David Sunday Aug 02, 2009 12:30pm
Sen. John McCain told CNN's John King that he's not in favor of a public health insurance option because he believes it would lead to a government takeover of health care. "[Public option proposals] remind us all of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So I've not seen a public option that meets the test of what would not eventually lead to a government takeover," said McCain.
McCain believes that President Obama has failed the test of bipartisanship and the "Blue Dogs" will eventually "roll over a play dead" on their opposition to health care reform.
Update. Transcript below the fold.
KING: I want to move to the big debate at the moment in the country, which is health care. And we will spend some time on the "what," the policy disputes and disagreements. But I want to start first with the "when," the "when."
The president says this has to be done this year. Is that right? Do you accept that timetable?
MCCAIN: I think, clearly, by not acting before the August recess, it gives us all more time to have debate and discussion across the country. I think that it's important that we all recognize we want to fix health care, that it needs to be repaired. The question is -- is how.
And the fundamental contradiction we have between the two parties is that we believe the quality of health care is the best in the world and must be preserved. It's the cost that's the problem.
The Democrats believe that you've got to change the entire health care system in America, including the so-called government option, which we believe would be -- lead to a government takeover of the health care system in America. That's why we've had so much trouble reconciling differences even though we share a common goal of fixing health care in America.
KING: Well, let's try to reconcile some of the differences. And let me start with the process that's in place. You have several Republicans, friends of yours, Chuck Grassley from Iowa, also in the room, in the Finance Committee negotiations. If they come out, the three or four Republicans in those negotiations come out say, "We have a deal that's acceptable to us," does that automatically make it acceptable to John McCain?
MCCAIN: It does not. But to their great credit, Senators Enzi, Grassley and Snowe have been in constant communication with the rest of us. So that's been very helpful. And so far, they have -- and I'm confident they will keep us heavily engaged as they go through this process.
KING: What's the pressure on them?
Because, as you know, many Republicans see this as a great political opportunity. The president's back on his heels for probably the first time in the administration, and you've had terms like "Waterloo," "go for the kill." What kind of pressure do those Republicans face from some Republicans who don't want a deal?
MCCAIN: I think they face pressures from both sides, to be honest with you. Part of the problem sometimes is you get the Stockholm Syndrome...
(LAUGHTER)
... and all of a sudden you become negotiators for the sake of negotiations and a result, no matter what that result is. So far that hasn't happened.
Look, I think, over the August recess, all of us can come home, have town hall meetings, discuss with our constituents and hopefully come back and work more closely together. But there still is these irreconcilable differences that I mentioned before.
But, yes, I think the pressures are very intense in both directions, both from people who do not want an agreement, at least the kind that's being considered, and that -- look, I've been in these negotiations. There's enormous pressure to come out with a result.
KING: Well, let's follow up on that very point. Because, right now, in the House, certainly, and to most you ask in the Senate, they say it's not a truly bipartisan process, even though a handful, two or three of your colleagues are in that room.
In the past, we have had bills like McCain-Feingold, campaign finance; McCain-Kennedy on immigration. Is there a role for John McCain, somebody who the American people trust on a lot of these issues, when it comes to spending and the role of government to step in here?
And is there somebody who could -- is there a circuit breaker, if you will, to turn this debate from what has been mostly partisan to something bipartisan?
MCCAIN: Well, first of all, unfortunately, there was no input by Republicans in the writing of if bill. In the HELP Committee, it was all a Democrat proposal. That's not the way you want to begin if you're really interested in true bipartisan result.
Maybe we can go back, and all of us -- and I'd be glad to play a role.
MCCAIN: I have been playing a small role on the committee. And I'd be glad to try and help. But it's got to be a true sit down, OK, what are you going to concede? What are you going to concede? How we can come together? Not, here's the plan, how can we fix it so it satisfy enough of you to call it "bipartisan." that's a huge difference.
KING: Just before the inauguration, the president had a dinner in your honor and said you're an American hero and a guy who reached across the aisle, and that is the tone he wanted to set when he came to Washington. On this point, has he failed the test he laid out at that dinner to be truly bipartisan?
MCCAIN: I'm afraid they have. And look, they got the votes. We understand that. They had the votes in the stimulus package and the budget and the omnibus, all this legislation, and they have picked off sometimes two or three Republicans.
But that's not changing the climate in Washington. What that is is exercising a significant majority. And so I respect their successes, but please don't call it changing the climate in Washington. Republicans did it when they were in the majority, Democrats have done it when they're in the majority.
KING: Yet, they have the votes, you're right, they have nearly 80-seat majority in the House, they have 60 now in the Senate, if the two Independents stay with them, and yet they're having a problem. To what do you attribute that? Having watched many of these big things over the year, some in the president's own party say because he's not getting his dirty, because he's not leading, he's not going into the House saying no, don't do this, that won't sell in the Senate, let's do that, is that true?
MCCAIN: First of all, the passage of the stimulus package and the huge deficit associated with that, I think, harmed their ability to move forward with health care because that's another $1 trillion in the view of the CBO. So that gave them a certain handicap. But I think the other thing is -- an aspect of it is that the president has laid out some ideas.
But I think the president has got to be more specific in the -- when we come down to exactly what these proposals are. And I don't think he's done that. And in his speeches and his health care meetings, he's talked about the things that are wrong and need to be fixed, but he's not been more descriptive of what we need to do. I think they may have over learned the lesson of Clinton proposal of '93 where they were totally specific proposals, now there's not enough. At this point I think the administration, the president has to be more specific.
KING: Fear can be a motivating force in politics, especially in compromise. Back in the day, Ronald Reagan was feared because people knew the bond he had with the American people. So even the Democrats would sometimes go along with him or make a deal. Bill Clinton stymied Republicans all the time because he was a effective communicator. After 9/11, nobody in these halls would stand up to George W. Bush in those early days because of the strength the president had. Is President Obama feared?
MCCAIN: Oh, I think we all recognize, I don't know if the word is fear, or even in this other instance that as you cited, but there's no doubt that this is a very effective president of the United States. He's an excellent communicator. He has sizable majorities in both houses of Congress. So I would never count anybody out in health care or anything else when you have these sizable majorities.
I think they will renew the push after the August recess. The question is, are there going to be really bipartisan efforts or just pick off a couple of Republicans? And the blue dogs, they always bark, they never bite, they almost always rollover and then play dead.
KING: That's a couple more specifics here. The public option, off the table for John McCain period? Or is there some kind of a public option, maybe the rural co-ops like Senator Conrad has talked about, something like that. Is there a viable public option that could get your vote?
MCCAIN: I've not seen one. The co-ops remind us all of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So I've not seen a public option that in my view meets the test of what would really not eventually lead to a government takeover.
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What, he didn't say kick me again?
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had to worry about private healthcare. His father was an admiral in the navy, McCain was in the navy, then married a rich wife, and has been in Congress ever since. HE'S NEVER HAD PRIVATE HEALTHCARE. He's never had to worry about his healthcare. How these people who have "government" healthcare for themselves but deny it to the rest of us, is beyond me.
What'd you expect? Sociopaths do sociopathic things.
about his ties to the lobbyist.
McCain is never called out on his BS , lies and deceit... The news media personal ,, like Chris Matthews and others just say this is not like McCain , I like him..
John Kerry was crucified by the republicans and he was a war hero , while Bush's actions and corruption was covered up and when a reporter was going to exposé him they were given the ax..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/22/mcca...
McCain.. The 'Anti-Lobbyist' Who Works With Lobbyists
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The Keating 5
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mclame is like an incontinent old dog,
he pees on everyone's leg and then just
wanders off aimlessly looking for the
next leg to pee on.
"thank you, sir. may I have another?"
has a lot more to do with McGrampa than a ship captain.
About the BS and lies that McCain and the other Republicans state..
Why are we not publishing more about statements coming from true democrats ,,, like Kucinich and others which are fighting their a.. off every single day.. They are doing this even against the democrats for the wishes and concerns of American citizens.
The true democrats are being censored while we hear all the information about the blood sucking officials which have sold their s... to this Global Empire..
Where is McCain's birth certificate.. McCain was not born in America , McCain was born in a foreign country ,,,Panama..... That would be more of a story then that of Obama.
Republicans and the blue dogs are just mad that the American citizens are waking up to their deceit , lies and the huge amount of funds their receive from the Global Empires..
When you see the huge funds given to them and they say it is not the money ,,,, then we know d... well it is the money..
Are we suppose to be stupid enough to believe if was just Because ???,
And the Global Empire is very generous with their money.. Like they the health industry is when they denied tests and services to their policy members...
Can't have bipartisanship when only one team is participating. Where are the fucking Republicans, John?
out looking for something elae to lie about, or to blame Obama for!
Apparently 'old yellowtooth' must think that bipartisanship means 'To do whatever the Republicans want'. What an ass****e.
Since McCain opposes any kind of government health care- HOW can he support the socialized medicine Vets get through the VA? I submit that teachers and doctors and factory workers are as American as members of the military, and are equally deserving of medical coverage.
telling the Republicans to "put up or shut up" on health care:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTh-Yu9RfF0
Cindy must be heavily invested in Health Insurance Industry.
Get together a coalition of Senators, and potential senators (like Roy Blunt), who don't believe in Medicare (biggest form of government-run healthcare in this nation's history), and try everything you can to get it eliminated.
STOP FUCKING TALKING AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT DUMBASSES!!!!
I'm mean, geez, John... we might start thinking you're for the Government putting our senior citizens to death if you don't do anything about it, otherwise.
Bipartisanship in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFLPn30dvQ
Of course you remember McCouldn't's idea for health care reform don't you? Let me refresh your memory; He was going to write up a list of health care insurance companies and you would be able to pick the insurance company you wanted and then you could pay the premiums. The list would have been available to EVERYBODY. Even the poor and undocumented.
tax cut.
Which would have worked WONDERFULLY in our current economic climate.
it was a refundable tax credit. And would of been just as WONDERFUL for us as the amount taxes are going to have to increase to pay for the plan their working on now. And it wasn't going to be a list of companies, he wanted to loosen restrictions on where you could get insurance from. In state or out of state. And there was a bit more to it than that.
... about anything.
Hey, I'd love a president who actually cared more for the views of those who supported him than those who opposed him. I'd love a group of "Democrats" who actually stood for their constituents instead of their contributors.
But instead, we've got Obama and the Blue Dogs.
Put your money where your mouth is, you walking sac.
Give up the socialized, government run health care you have enjoyed your ENTIRE LIFE.
If you can't do that, McCain, you're just still that grumpy old guy in need of a diaper change.
into conversations with cons online (can't deal with them in real life without blowing a gasket), and I ask them... PLEASE give up your medicare and SS, or PLEASE promise to when you turn 65.
And invariably, their response will be "NO! I paid into it! What type of jackass would pass that up if you've paid into it?!"
A) It's still socialized when the richest 1% of this country pays 40% of the taxes-- they're subsidizing your ass.
And B) How can you possibly, on one hand, equate socialized medicine to putting people to death (as Virginia Foxx did last week), and then on the other hand make no effort to go off it or to encourage politicians to eliminate it?
It's just insanity.
Again... education (or lackthereof) is the main reason people can get away with this. And close behind that is our completely inept and non-functioning media apparatus.
When will one of these blow-dried fops confront McCain with the fact that he's been on "government-run" health care his entire life. First as a Navy brat, second as a naval officer, and finally as a member of the federal government.
He owes it to us to either, explain what was wrong with the health care we taxpayers have been buying for him, or tell us why he doesn't want us to have what we've so generously provided for him.
He's a senior but he'll have his government run health care until he dies. Good thing for him he wont have to go on that evil huge failure called Medicare.
,,,Golf clap on that one.
that makes what you said redundant.
I just love when these Conservatives try to cite Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac as "examples" of failed government programs.
Uh, guys, Fannie & Freddie didn't crater until you guys privatized them.
not that they'd pay it any mind, but still.
To be fair: The repubs were arguing that F&F weren't necessary anymore since the all-powerful market was now providing loans to anything with a pulse. While they didn't kill F&F, they got them to get into the subprime market - which cratered 'em.
But the point is valid: McCain is now criticizing F&F for failing, which happened due to them acting like the market, when that's what his party pushed for all along?!
And let's all just forget about the decades of providing affordable home loans to Americans then, shall we? (Because, obviously the totally-deregulated market does so much better a job.. Which is why we've got so many sub-prime lenders still around..)
Yeah, total hypocrisy. If it were up to the Republicans alone there would simply be no low-income mortgages, because it's simply not a problem in their book.
I ask what TOS violation was in the post that was deleted?
[By email to sitemonitor1[at]gmail[dot]com-Sitemonitor]
to answer your first question, no. To answer your second question, no. To answer your third question, no. To answer your fourth question, no and etc.
Has not yet conceded his 'defeat' in November (in all senses of the word)?!
McCain has no credibility.
They seem to buy into their own lies.......
Do it our way or we'll scream you're not working with us. These Republicans keep screaming that the government sucks and can't do a damn thing right. I can see how they believe that. But try looking outside your party to see how government can actually work.
"McCain believes that President Obama has failed the test of bipartisanship and the "Blue Dogs" will eventually "roll over a play dead" on their opposition to health care reform."
One can only hope!
Got it
If I am on the tennis court with a party and that party refuses to hit the ball back to me:
Did I fail at tennis or
Did the other party refuse to play tennis?
Wingnuts are so delusional that they cannot become extinct any too soon.
In Arizona, two companies (BCBS and UnitedHealth) control 65% of the insurance market, which has guaranteed an 80% increase in premiums over the past eight years.
Smell the competition!
OK... can some explain the problem with this, because I fail to see the problem with that?
"OK... can some explain the problem with this, because I fail to see the problem with that?"
Because preserving uncompetitive fiefdoms is as American as apple pie and indefinite detention.
Budweiser,
that old McCrankypants is just trying to get the Blue Dogs angry by calling them wusses...you know the old bullying thing he's always done...hoping to get them fully on board with his out of touch party.
Yup...he's failed the bipartisan test. He simply wouldn't play "drag the dog" or "f*ck the public, and cut my taxes". What a shame.
My view on 'bipartisanship'....SCREW IT! You don't make deals with the devil, and that's what it amounts to. There isn't ONE repuke that has the best interests of the American public at heart. It's ALL about cutting taxes and keeping the rich, rich! All complete bullshit.
I know this sounds bazaar, but we'd be better served to kick them all out of Washington and just do it with the Democrats and Independents. The repukes are a serious brain disorder. They NEED TO BE IGNORED!!
McCain lost any creditablity for me with his pick for a Vice Presidential candidate. If I were a fundamentalist Christian I would truly believe he had sold his soul. Any statement he makes has no correlation with the welfare of this country.
NOT a fundamentalist Christian, and I DO believe he sold his soul.
http://alaskareport.com/news39/x71283_divorce...
Such a great judge of character that McCain fella is! (Supposedly it's because of BOTH their infidelities).
Who caught her doing the walk of shame.
or she was winking with a different winkee.
Maybe if we gave him and the other GOP Know-Nothings a million dollar cash payment now to permanently leave public office we would be better off. I think it may be the best stimulus package that we would offer, and include Baucus and Lieberman too.
Senile old fools like Mc Lame and his colleagues Sanford, Ensign, and Gingrich want the best of both worlds, They want the good that comes with the stimulus packages and reform but the ability to oppose it with impunity. Sorry John, the real world does not work that way. Of course, you GOP morons live in an alternate universe anyway.
What's the use of "bipartisanship" if the ultimate beneficiary is only you, John?
Once again we're forced to endure the ramblings of the 2008 also ran.
Thank God this idiot wasn't voted into the WH. He has had nothing but public option health care since the day his Mom spit him out on a Naval base. And so like all the rethugs, his opinion of bi-partisan & compromise is DO WHAT WE SAY TO DO! Now that's bi-partisan.
He has had nothing but public option health care since the day his Mom spit him out on a Naval base in a foreign country.
FIFY
a real birth certificate
McCain is not for a public option.
And neither is Obama.
Plenty of bile for McCain.
But don't criticize Obama...
WTF?
Jason Leopold (The Public Record): Pelosi To Allow Floor Vote On Single-Payer Healthcare Plan
Maybe the tide is turning .. maybe ..
Really? This is what they passed??
All citizens are required to purchase health cvare- if they don't, they get fined.
Some reform. He deserves NO respect if this is what they try to pass off as healthcare . . . I call it extortion. And Weiner caved without a fight.
There he goes - finding the fault in others, never realizing how stupid and at fault he is for the state of his party.
Remind me why this guy always gets the mic. - oh ya, cause he always gets the mic.
news-flash to MSM: we don't respect McCain any more. words have consequences. McCain will not be on my TV again.
Did you know McCain was a Vet?
eheheeh ya.
Whenever McCain comes on my TV the channel changes. I don't even have to think about it any more - it just happens, and i feel great!
Same thing happens now when Dobbs come on my screen - poof, the channel changes and i feel good!
I highly recommend it, and you'll be amazed at what you can learn on the other channels or the internet during that time.
Just turn the teevee off and watch the highlights here at Crooksandliars.
It would save you a whole lot of aggravation and time.
It's what I do.
CNN has no less than 5 MC Cain stories on its Political Ticker today.
Mc Dummy bitching about big bad leeberal press attacking Palin. Mc Stupid carrying the water for his big biz handlers via attacking public option. This partisan bickering is just hilarious.Obviously Mc Goofy forgot about the Bush years.. ram rodding bills through.. cutting off Dems mics... trying to hold votes until they got their way. Fuck you too MC Senile.
All while the republicanzi have become incompetent, irrelevant, and criminal in nature. for shame [and profit?] CNN!
McCain has failed the hypocrisy test. Again.
Does anybody at CNN know who won the last election? I couldn't give a flaming fig about what McCain thinks about anything! I swear I have never in my lifetime seen the media have such a fascination with has-beens and also-rans. These people were rejected by the American people. CNN and their ilk need to get their act together and stop giving so much face time to the Party of No Ideas.
Modern US Media...
... If it's a Democrat in Office, get the voice of the opposition on the air,
... If it's a Republican in Office, get their message out!
There is no such thing! Johnny, you people are ideologically, morally, and politically on the opposite side of dems (except for our corporate sellouts). If I hear the word "biparisanship" coming from the party of no ideas one more time, I'm going to explode! You people are TOTALLY counterproductive towards progression. You are anchors to our society! Please for the love of God AND OUR COUNTRY, GO AWAY!!
Let's not forget who these corporately owned career politicians really are ... they are not doing anything to help this country ... what they are doing is protecting their wealth and power. Don't forget that Bill Frist has made billions with a "B" from profits from health care ... I have come to hate McCain disgusting face ... He is such a huge liars and fake for the wealthy elite. I wish his arms would fall off and his teeth would fall out ....
from Apache Junction yet?
they have now electric starters. Still trying to start it via the tailpipe.
that's the best funny in a month!
I lost my cup of coffee!
McCain is a turd . Period.
Exactly - it's like the MSM and the Repuglicanzi are joined at the brain.
Hmm.. what to do, what to do, with no valid media, you have no valid democracy - weird. No wait, that's a well understood and established fact. I'm afraid the middle class is going to have to break off it's relationship with the MSM. I'm sorry but i think it's for the best for everyone concerned. OK? OK then.
I wonder if the MSM will be able to un-tangle and seperate itself from the Thuglican corporo-fascism it finds itself partnered with. Their survival may depend on it.
Like anyone really cares what this sore loser has-been has to say.
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because he hasn't done everything the Thugs have told him to do?
STFU old man.
You lost, your time is past and the real jerks who tore the arse out of bipartisanship were Reagan and Gingrich. And their minions, you being one of the. Oh yeah you were all bp with the Keating 5 shit, but that was it, Senator McCriminal.
Reagan was a vicious bastard but a good Hollywood actor, which was why he was able to con so many Americans into believing he was kindly old grandfatherly type looking out after their interests.
worked their bad plans for the poor of America.
There was a total erosion of caring for one's fellow man during that time. And the greedy, who can't get enough crap to satiate their base desires liked the extra money that not hospitalising the ill or housing the homeless or feeding the hungry put in their pockets for the important things in life, like expensive restaurant meals nearly every night, plays, concerts, trips, iPods, monstrous bigscreen tvs, flash gas guzzling vehicles.
But boy, it sure rankles them to get panhandled, or they are disgusted by the homeless. And they are too goddamned stupid to realise that the $3000 dollars or so in electrical gear, clothing, shoes and accessories there are wearing when an unfortunate soul asks them for help, or appears in their field of vision, that it is their lifestyle choice that contributes directly to the ills of that annoyance.
They are blinded by their greed, and are expending all their effort in justifying that greed. They cannot admit to themselves that the ride . . . good that it was . . . is over.
Interesting McCain says health care reform doesn't have bipartisan support then uses the term "picking off a few Republicans" to pass health care reform. To me that's bipartisan support!
My children have no say in how the house is run. That is up to me and my spouse. I may ask for input, but the decision is between the grown people.
Doesn't McCain have a plane to crash or an aircraft carrier to set on fire somewhere?
Good one !!!
Actually , I think MC Dummy has to go back to Nam. Some copies of the propaganda films he made for NVA are surfacing. And MC Jackass thought he buried all of that when he held Vietnam hostage from world trade till he got those films back. Why did his fellow prisoners at Hanoi Hilton call him "Songbird" anyways. Self serving lying prick.
I am not going to fault him for singing.
He has however, since those dark days, proven himself to be not any kind of hero, or guy who wants to help the little guy out.
I mean c'mon, McOutofTouch. Stick with what you know.
to ditch his current wife for?
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The world trade center.
If you look close enough you can see the strings of big Healthcare moving McTool's lips.
you know, the ones who need it most. and McCain wouldve made the tax cuts permanent. so theyd have been a gift thatd kept on giving.
Your political party has failed at bipartisanship. Your political party wants to teach 6000 year old planet bullshit as fact while reality withers and dies. Hey McCain, wanna borrow a plane?! This time when you crash, please die..
Dimwits like John McCain think that being Bi-Partisan means doing exactly what republicans want. This guy makes me want to puke into his partisan face.
FUCK YOU MCCAIN
You miserable, lazy bastard. You were more than happy to take all those VA and Navy benefits when you were in the service---so do the right thing--repay the taxpayers for your largesse and selfishness.
Any while you're at it, please voluntarily forego any Social Security or VA benefits when you retire. That would be the right thing to do.
Right?
Oh excuse me, I forgot you were in the GOP, who are glad to reap the reward of government services but just don't want to pay for them or share with others.
You miserable pig. Who wants to build consensus with selfish cowards?
Senator McWad in my cheek has no cred on health care reform. Been a product of supplied health care all his life,,, should shut up. He is the reason I may jump out of a perfectly good flying plane. And it isn't to save a precious 6pack of budweiser.
Was pretty clearly stated (between the lines) of that 'sour grapes' letter he sent to Obama in 2006:
Read: WHAAA.. You didn't do things MY way so therefore you're not bipartisan at all and aren't really interested in reform at all!
Well, he sure hasn't changed much.
Please read this article on FANNIE MAE so next time a douche bag like McCain tries to snow the public, you will have some facts to counter his bullshit:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=s...
Where is the Republican plan? If they hate this plan so much, where is their plan? What is their ideas, besides the status quo? Let's not forget they contributed over 160 amendments to the current bills.
Tax cuts. And nothing else.
And if you really drill down deep and the true right wing of the republican party got its way, it would be tax cuts for the rich... and a few scraps thrown at the poor and middle class to keep us shut up and in line.
Johnny has turned into quite the lame-ass....He bad mouths most everything EVERYONE does..back-peddles on major issues (normal behavior), publicly tries to humiliate folks, declares since he can't buy a new car he will actively oppose the extensions of Cash 4 Clunkers program, etc...
Are he and palin coordinating this effort?? Either that or Cindy has gotten senile and wants a staff job now that Anheuser-Busch is a foreign company... or she is having trouble converting Belgium Francs to dollars....
These jackasses complaining about the "Cash fo Clunkers" deal are straight up obstructionists. This program is just about the best stimulus program they have come up with.
It gets people who are sitting on the sidelines waiting to buy a new car, it gets them off their ass.
It give some people an opportunity to get rid of a piece of shit car they thought they would never get rid of, it give them a chance to unload it.
It gets people into the dealerships to see what there is in the way of new cars.
It gets these old gas guzzlers off the road.
It gets money flowing to car dealers and the people who work there.
Car manufacturers will have to build more cars.
It keeps the auto workers working.
It keeps the parts suppliers working.
These people go out to lunch near their jobs so it helps those little mom and pop restaurants.
These people will feel more secure and start spending a little money on things they have been waiting for becasue they were not sure if they were going to lose their job.
It puts a lot of money into the economy.
These Republicans who are trying to obstruct are assholes and are hurting the economy. If McShame tries to filibuster the new $2 billion he will be shooting himself in the foot along with all the other Republicans. This will be some of the biggest ammunition Obama and the Democrats will have in a while if the Republicans try to obstruct this.
Do you know what 3,000,000,000 divided by $4500 is?
666,666
That is 666,666 new god damn cars being sold. 222,222 were sold in the first week. Go ahead McShame. Try to stop it. Dip Shit!
Not everyone got $4500 trade-in value: a lot of them got only $3500, because the mpg upgrade wasn't as great.
Yeah so that means more cars were sold!!
So Obama is the Anti-Christ?
Seems pretty fond of that socialized govt health care when it gets personal... he's had govt. coverage his entire life. What a hypocrite.
Wrong again " Maverick " , it's the stinking Republican party that has failed the bipartisan test . I bet you are feeling pretty lost and lonely these days aren't you McCain ?
Well I think its a hell of a site better then it would have been if we had let your sorry old ass get in the Whitehouse!
republicanism is a mental illness!
Does McCain think the Obama Administration should demonstrate the same level of bipartisanship as the GOP and Bush and his cronies did for the previous eight years? I'm for that. They can completely ignore the GOP. And if the GOP meembers of congress are so fearful of government run health insurance than they should practice what they preach; refuse this perc and purchase private health insurance. Asswipes.
John McCain should be institutionalized for his own protection. He's got the typical Republican 's sociopathic idea of co-operation, "all for me and all for me".
What a shit head.
He has worn out his "free ride" for being a POW. He deserves no respect for what he has done and what he continues to do for this nation.
I feel for those who were POW's, but how long do we have to give them this "respect" they supposedly deserve for being held captive? This pathetic excuse of a human came home and sold out his country and continues to subvert any actions the President takes to right the ship after nearly 30 years of ruin led by the repuke party and their screwed philosophy.
This old fart did NOTHING heroic..at anytime. He was a captive. He did what he did to stay alive...even denounced the US at times. Why is this honorable? I don't get it. He came home, left his wife and family to marry into money and politics. How honorable is that again? geeeesh....wake up America!
Who gives a flying f**k if the govt takes over health insurance if it works better than what we have now? That's not the plan but if that is the ultimate result it will be because we the people decide that's the way we want it. Apparently McCain is more concerned about enabling the private insurance companies profiteering than in letting the American people decide what sort of health care works best for them.
McCain has failed every test he took, like being FAITHFUL to his first wife and also the American people with his terrible voting record. He's a untrustworthy hypocrite that should just do us all a favor and retire.
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