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Nancy Pelosi is once again vindicated by the actions of the CIA and Dick Cheney. Darth Vader continually opens his mouth to defend his horrific actions, but as more information leaks out it's quite obvious that he had no regard for the rule of law or the Constitution. The new breaking story is that Cheney told the CIA to keep their mouths shut and not inform Congress of what they were up to. This should be reviewed to see if he broke the law.

Normally this would be a shocking revelation under any other administration, but with Bush and Cheney---this is the norm.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney directed the CIA eight years ago not to inform Congress about a nascent counterterrorism program that CIA Director Leon Panetta terminated in June, officials with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.

Subsequent CIA directors did not inform Congress because the intelligence-gathering effort had not developed to the point that they believed merited a congressional briefing, said a former intelligence official and another government official familiar with Panetta's June 24 briefing to the House and Senate Intelligence committees.

Panetta did not agree. Upon learning of the program June 23 from within the CIA, Panetta terminated it and the next day called an emergency meeting with the House and Senate Intelligence committees to inform them of the program and that it was canceled.

From Fox News Sunday, Dianne Feinstein and John Cornyn are asked about the recent revelation that the CIA was asked by the Bush administration not to reveal one of their programs to members of Congress.

FEINSTEIN: Oh, I think this is a problem, obviously. This is a big problem, because the law is very clear. And I understand the need of the day, which was when America was in shock, when we had been hit in a way we’d never contemplated, where we had massive loss of life, where there was a major effort to be able to respond and -- but this -- see, I don’t -- I think you weaken your case when you go outside of the law.

Feinstein feels the concealment may have broken the law and has no problems with Attorney Gen. Holder appointing an independent I.G. to investigate the Bush administrations interrogation methods. Cornyn's response is predictable.

WALLACE: In our final moments, I want to turn to another subject, and this involves your role, Senator Feinstein, as chair of the Intelligence Committee.

CIA director Panetta briefed you recently on an 8-year-old program that he had stopped but that Congress had never been told about. Now there are reports that Vice President Cheney ordered the CIA not to tell Congress about it.

One, should Congress have been told about this program, which apparently was never fully implemented? And what do you make of the vice president’s apparent role in telling the CIA not to brief Congress?

FEINSTEIN: The answer is yes, Congress should have been told. We should have been briefed before the commencement of this kind of sensitive program.

Director Panetta did brief us two weeks ago -- I believe it was on the 24th of June -- said he had just learned about the program, described it to us, indicated that he had canceled it and, as had been reported, did tell us that he was told that the vice president had ordered that the program not be briefed to the Congress. This is...

WALLACE: And what do you think of that?

FEINSTEIN: Oh, I think this is a problem, obviously. This is a big problem, because the law is very clear. And I understand the need of the day, which was when America was in shock, when we had been hit in a way we’d never contemplated, where we had massive loss of life, where there was a major effort to be able to respond and -- but this -- see, I don’t -- I think you weaken your case when you go outside of the law.

And I think that if the Intelligence Committees had been briefed, they could have watched the program. They could have asked for regular reports on the program. They could have made judgments about the program as it went along. That was not the case because we were kept in the dark. That’s something that should never, ever happen again.

WALLACE: Senator Cornyn, your reaction to the decision not to tell Congress and the vice president’s apparent role telling the CIA not to tell Congress.

CORNYN: Well, Chris, this, of course, comes on the heels of a statement -- unproven, by the way -- of Speaker Pelosi that the CIA had lied to her about enhanced interrogation techniques, and this looks to me suspiciously like an attempt to provide political cover to her and others.

I agree with Senator Feinstein -- the CIA should brief the Congress. Congress should exercise responsible oversight. But to trot out the vice president and say he’s the one that’s at fault -- this is -- unfortunately sounds like a new theme where they still want to blame the Bush-Cheney administration for the economy and for other things that, frankly, are in the -- squarely within the...

FEINSTEIN: Well...

CORNYN: ... control of...

WALLACE: Finally, if I may...

CORNYN: ... this administration.

WALLACE: ... because we are running out of time, and I have one other issue I want to discuss with you -- and along those lines, there’s another story in the paper today, Senator Cornyn, that Attorney General Holder is leaning towards appointing a criminal prosecutor to investigate whether or not CIA personnel tortured terror detainees after 9/11. Good idea?

CORNYN: So after the Obama administration leaves, the subsequent administration will conduct a grand jury to determine whether the president or any person in this administration should be indicted and prosecuted.

This is a terrible trend. And I hope that the attorney general listens to the president, who says, “We need to look forward, not backward.” This is high-risk stuff, because if we chill the ability or the willingness of our intelligence operatives and others to get information that’s necessary to protect America, there could be disastrous consequences.

WALLACE: Senator Feinstein, you get the last word.

FEINSTEIN: Well, I don’t know whether Senator Cornyn has read those inspector general reports, but I have, and they are chilling. And I understand why the attorney general is where he is. I read the Newsweek story. I know no more about it than that.

I don’t know whether he will choose to investigate, but that’s certainly his independent option, and...

WALLACE: Would you -- would you favor a criminal investigation of CIA personnel and how they treated these terror detainees?

FEINSTEIN: As you know, the Intelligence Committee has hired staff, has an investigation under way, is going through each one of the high-value detainees, their interrogation, their detention, their treatment, the techniques that were used on them, in what combination, over what period of time.

And that material hopefully will be before us within the next six to eight months, and we will be able to consider it, make findings, recommendations, and the committee will also consider whether to release it publicly.

I think this is an independent I.G. I would hope they would let us do our report. But he’s going to do what he’s going to do.

WALLACE: Senators, we’re going to have to leave it there. We want to thank you both so much for joining us and, among other things, previewing those confirmation hearings. We’ll all be watching tomorrow.

FEINSTEIN: Thank you.

CORNYN: Thank you.

WALLACE: Thank you.



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It should have never happened in the first place!
But that is what happens when you let criminals control government.
republicanism is a mental illness!

...now he wants to "let it stand". hey, that is mental.

Cornyn doesn't realize the size of the chilling effect that letting it go will have within the organization, not to mention the effect on enrollment.

Nancy Pelosi stated ,,, show me the crimes and I will put impeachment on the table.

All we are receiving from the democrats is BS in the past 5 plus years.

Democrats said they can not do thing and they can not do that because they are the minority , we get the the election in 2006 and again in 2008. Now what do they say ,,,, We have to move to the center (right) and we need to be bi-partisan (another statement they use for republican).

Sent bills on the crimes of Cheney and Bush and the democrats put then on the shelf never to be introduced to the floor.

Obama we will not indulge in the investigations of the prior administration He wants to put it behind and move on. Just who is calling the shots besides Emanuel and his group..

Emanuel We want to move the democrat party to the center... Well it is already to the center right , just were is his plans to take it..
Just how many republicans have been elected on the democrat's ticket now anyway. We have the blue dogs in the senate / house and just how many more are their..

Emanuel's policies he is bushing are certainly not for the benefit of working Americans.

Our jobs and social programs are being outsourced overseas on a daily basis.. We give them American jobs and then we use America's tax money to rebuild their infrastructure while America's is falling apart..

Money talks and the Global Empires has millions a day to spend in order to get what they demand..

Our government , constitution and democracy has been hijacked by this Industrial-military complex and the democrats are joining the band wagon.. If you call them democrats anymore..

Recall that in the past few days Sarah Palin has said that she will "go and speak for ANYONE....Republican OR DEMOCRAT who holds her values on pro-life, limited government, pro-guns etc.

Imagine that. Sarah Palin out raising money for DemocRATS!!!

those trends Cornyn talks about are caused by an underlying pattern of crime and deception emanating from the bush administration.

Then so is Democraticism. Many of the Democrats are just as guilty of "going along to get along".

We need to call a spade a spade. Republican or Democrat. Makes no difference to me.

Recall "Lady Justice" with the blind fold on. She just needs to know the truth.

Where ever it may lead.

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R E M E M B E R:
When it only took 41, they didn't...
... And now that they have 60, they won't.

I see a pattern of enabling...
Be it war, spying, TORTURE or lying, it couldn't have been done without the other.

... V O T E
... T H E
... B U M S
... O U T !

There are some Democrats that sat on their hands when it mattered.
They need to be tossed out, too!

LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAY and ARREST THE GUILTY!

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That would pretty much leave just Russ Feingold, Sherrod Brown and, now, Al Franken.

Many of our leaders seem reluctant to look too closely into what laws may have been broken, because it might lead to some very powerful people being put in a tight spot. And yet, we continue to refer to ourselves as a nation of laws, and we still presume to be the global champion of high principles. I wonder if we're fooling anyone besides ourselves.

Many of our leaders seem reluctant to look too closely into what laws may have been broken, because it might lead to some very powerful people being put in a tight spot

and everyone fully understand that reluctance, and that reluctance needs to be expressed. And then our leaders must overcome that reluctance, for the sake of our safety, and the future of the nation.

Feinstein Support for Bush's war and other programs , did not hurt her husband's ties to working with their war contracts (war?)

Money seens to rule the representatives and our votes not long mean a thing.

The democrats realize that the progressive democrat voters would not vote republican so they have moved pass US to their corporate-republicans funds and votes..

Democracy Now has a show today dealing with the Convoy of Death, another CIA investigation ignored by the Bush administration...three times it looks like.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/13/obama_c...

This was a huge story lost under the cloak.

13 Doctors say WMD mole did not commit suicide.

No blood, no knife fingerprints?

http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/07/13/doctor...

where is shadowgmt and his anti-conspiracy comments.

Like if : Goverments never lie!

directly from the CIA.

The Rushthugliklans impeached Clinton over lying about a blowjob. Why all the hand wringing by the Democrats over investigations of Rushthugliklans over matters much graver? Get one with it!!

WSJ: CIA Plan Envisioned Hit Teams Killing al Qaeda Leaders

WASHINGTON -- A secret Central Intelligence Agency initiative axed by Director Leon Panetta examined how to assassinate members of al Qaeda with hit teams on the ground, according to current and former national-security officials familiar with the matter.

The goal was to assemble teams of CIA and special-operations forces "and put bullets in [the al Qaeda leaders'] heads," one former intelligence official said. ...

stopped by jason bourne?

CountDown - Olbermann discusses Cheney's Assassination Teams with Jane Mayer, author of "The Dark Side":

What Is It That We're Missing In The 'Cheney Ordered The CIA To Lie' Story?

Olbermann asks, "Why did Cheney fail on purpose to assemble any effective assassination teams?"

But Mayer has her own take.

>msm is so lamte

I won't believe a word from her. her war-profiteering husband destroys her credibility, along with her DLC/DSCC ties.

Yuh

Another Fine-stain on our De mock racy

... isn't it time that it's people took a serious look at Why-Fi?

and we thought Conn. was conned by LIEberman.

http://www.democracynow.org/2003/5/23/afghan_...

It comes in two parts and is on the lower part of the page of the first link I sent. Very tragic story. Why would anyone in Afghanistan trust Americans? I don't care if those murdered were from the Taliban. It was an evil act and knowing it occurred would make me less trusting of anyone who supported it.

The Convoy of Death even made it into the Korean papers today.

The world is watching.

[edit: and McCain is saying people's reputations have been damaged. What fucking reputations??? Dealer of death. Oh, and Cronyn is an ASSHOLE!!!!! Supreme!!!]

funny how they always trot out Senator Lyinstain whenever the CIA need some cover (behind her tattered old skirt)

I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, we wouldn't want to ruin the reputations of IMPORTANT people!

Let's find a few more like Lyndie England and throw the book at 'em!

The name of the CIA operation was Touchstone.

Treason is never a mistake but it's always a mistake not to call it Treason.

Torture / Murder / Treason is unacceptable period.

This is the most profound case of treason I've ever lived through in my life of over a half a century.

This cannot pass and the republic stand period.

Hey! CORNYN: letting it stand will certainly lead to disaster.

why does she repeat that b.s. line that nobody could have fathomed the attack? it's pretty well documented by now that many in the CIA did fathom such an attack....

... to have one right wing conservative debate an even further right wing wackaloon.

...DiFi is actually acting reasonable and not placating the neocon/Busco crowd. DiFi normally uses weasel words and only gets principled when she can't prevaricate any more. Something is up. This will be big. She knows stuff. She does not want to be on the wrong side of this.

She must know something alright... ...how about she knows about... well... nothing less than a hostile take-over and control of the CIA, and defiance and estrangement of the other equal branches of government, by none other than Bush and Cheney.

That might be part of it.

I watched NBC Nightly News tonight and the way they packaged the story, Bush & Cheney kept the truth of their "secret plan for the CIA to assassinate al Qaeda leaders wherever they found them" because "they were fearful of leaks" if they told all of Congress.

Nice spin, but they're opening admitting they didn't believe anyone in Congress could be trusted.

They're also admitting they broke the government, the law, and the constitution.

They're simply stating why they hijacked the system of government. answer - because they new full well congress and senate and DOJ and SCOTUS would have said no thanks, that's illegal and immoral, and it's against government law! That will matter during the sentencing phase, because that means they were aware of the gavity of their crimes.

What's his name on NBC wants to know "why" - it's like a human interest story to him still. He has no idea what has actually happened to his safety, and the future of law and order, and the American system of equal branches of government. Then he wants to go home until they give him his script tomorrow. lets get it right, NBC.

So what ya' gonna do about it DiFi? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Do you not remember the death squads - those guys dressed in black with black hoods riding around in white new Toyoto pickups operating out of the Iraqi Interior Department? One witness to a murder of a prominent Iraqi (by reports a good guy) reported one of the murderers giving orders in English. One American employee working in the department told when he asked questions about it to be quiet. Don't you think this has to be opened and find out what happened?

Hate to sound like a loony tune...but I have always thought those 'Al-Qaeda' or whomever were the dudes standing behind Nicolus (sp?) Berg looked awfully hefty and light-skinned (not to mention all those super clean and new sneakers)to be Middle Easterners....instead of it being al-qaeda...would it perhaps been a small 'group' of ..oh say, "others" who were trying to incite more hatred toward the Arabs by being allowed to off an American???? I mean, I'm just askin'.......
(okay, I know it's time for my meds.....)

That's the big shoe to drop. This is the first bit of disinformation being catapulted so the true believers can be dosed with the lie and spread it like a virus. Most Americans would support assassinations of Al Qaeda so no big deal.

The real shoe that will drop will be that it was used much more often in other countries and possibly even against white people.

The evil, if it's allowed to be revealed, will astound.

Is an unmitigated scumbag. Neither of the points he made had a lick of sense to them.

#1. Because Cheney and the CIA lied to congress, Obama is trying to blame the ECONOMY on Bush and Cheney? Buddy, give me a break. These are completely separate issues, don't try and put them in the same basket.

#2. Would we want an inquisition or investigation into whether OBAMA committed crimes and covered things up, twisted rules and regulations and manipulated congress, etc? YES. Of COURSE WE WOULD. And by the end of it, when the claims were likely either thrown out or shown to be false, we could laugh in your face!

Seems these jackasses in DC are just a wee bit slow , all of knew this a long long time ago . The Bush / Cheney cabal was a criminal organization , nothing less , a criminal organization backed and enabled by the Republican party . The only question is are we going to investigate and prosecute and enforce the laws of this country and hold the criminals to account or not ? Just letting them off the hook will do more long term and irreparable damage to this country than going after them no matter how long it takes and holding the guilty accountable and making them pay , all of them . It will never happen though and this country will never again be the same , that is a safe bet . Our government is thoroughly corrupt , in the end Obama and a few good guys are powerless to clean it up ... even if they wanted to .

Don't start a terrible trend of enforcing the law. If you did that, there wouldn't be any repigs left in the house or senate. The only thing that would be "terrible" is it's his ass on the line.

And since when does doing something once make it trend? Oh, he's talking about how the sick repigs harassed the Clinton's for nearly 8 years while they were in office for things they didn't do, then were able to finally catch the guy for getting a BJ. Still, this would be the FIRST time we prosecuted an administration for CRIMES they committed, and probably war crimes at that.

is that I always hear that this should never happen again. You know, like the hallacaust.

They are right. It should never happen again. The only way to assure it will never happen again is to indict and prosecute ALL of those involved with torture. I mean every goddamned one! That means the people that ordered it, the people that authorized it, the people that used it and those people that covered it up, and those people that are still covering it up. I don't care if the current president is covering it up. If he is----indict and prosecute.

unfortunately we concur.

are the reason the founders created the Constitution the way they did full of checks and balances. To Protect against people like Cheney. Too bad that The Bush administration circumvented it at every turn.

Ya..., a major operation I'd say...

a secret cooperative effort.

WOW

And their just figuring out that this happens?!?!

Cheney gives orders for torture program and orders CIA to keep Congress in the dark. When will Cheney ever get what's coming to him. I suppose not until he rots in hell, where he belongs. The right wingers who accused Pelosi of lying, and there are quite a few, owe her an apology.

The CIA, keep secrets from Congress? How shocking!
Got two words for ya: IRAN CONTRA.
All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again.

JB

http://www.econocataclysm.com

Allowing Cheney, Bush, Gonzales, etal to break the law without consequences will ensure that these same type of people (or even the same people) will do the same thing again.

The CIA, FBI, NSA ran amok under the Republicans. Not only did they use Fed government against foreign enemies, but they used the same resources to silence dissent and for domestic political blackmail.

Heads in all the agencies need to roll. But, don't hold your breath.

..they or specifically W and Cheeney had no intention of telling Congress because they didn't care if they caught al-Qaeda leaders, OBL or anyone else. All they wanted was to profit from the tragedy of 9/11 and invade Iraq for oil. Everything they did was for that reason; go ahead, prove me wrong! Until someone appoints a Special Prosecutor who owns a set and is ALLOWED to go after the real WAR CRIMINALS, what am I supposed to believe?
Our friends and citizens died on 9/11.
We didn't get OBL.
KBR and Halliburton got no-bid contracts.

But, mess with their perogatives, they climb right down your throat.

DiFi can occassionally sound like a democrat. She can put on a very, very sincere look on her face and actually sound like she believes what she says.

Something's not Kosher in the dill pickle factory...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/C...

The program was exposed by the NYT long ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/15/internation...

Smokescreens, get a clue.

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