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George Will claims that there is no defense of BP and their terrible safety record and says of course no one wants to make apologies for them when asked about Joe Barton's remarks during the Congressional hearings last week. Then naturally he proceeds to play water carrier for the company and slams the Obama administration for getting them to set up the escrow fund, comparing it to something akin to Hugo Chavez nationalizing the oil industry in Venezuela.

TAPPER: George, I want to start with you. I know you don't agree with what Republican Texas Congressman Joe Barton had to say, but does the idea of this $20 billion escrow account make you uncomfortable?

WILL: It does. Look, there is no defense of BP which has an execrable safety record in this country, from the refinery disaster in Texas in '05, the Morris Slope leak in '06, all of that and so no apology from BP. But if you don't want to live in a Northern Hemisphere Venezuela, you ought to be a little queasy about the fact that a president, any president of any party, using raw political power, without recourse to courts that exist for this sort of thing, under laws, with due process, essentially confiscates $20 billion from a publicly held corporation, about half of its shares held by Americans, to be dispensed, again, with out judicial supervision, as the political branch sees fit. That is worrisome. Even, they have even said that BP maybe held responsible for the lost wages caused by, not BP, but the administration's own moratorium, six-months moratorium, on deepwater drilling. Which maybe more costly to the economy of the Gulf than the spill itself.

Later in the segment Will quotes Shakespeare and compares the President to Caesar and then reads from an article in The Economist which blasts Obama as being “Vladimir Obama”.

TAPPER: Rahm Emanuel seemed to really seize on those Barton comments almost as if President Obama were on the ballot this year, for the 2010 midterms, running against Joe Barton. Democrats argue that Barton's comments are not really out of Republican mainstream. And here are some comments from the Republican Study Committee, in the House; 114 members of the Republican Party in the House saying: "BP's reported willingness to go along with the White House's new fund suggests that the Obama administration is hard at work exerting its brand of Chicago-style shakedown politics. These actions are emblematic of a politicization of our economy that has been born out of this administration's drive for greater power and control." George, it seems like mainstream Republican thought, if that is from the Republican Study Committee?

WILL: Well, among those asking, upon what meat doeth our Caesar feed that he has grown so great?, is "The Economist" of London, which I think we have all accept as a mainstream publication. They say, in a section of their lead editorial, called "Vladimir Obama", "The collapse of BP's share prices suggest he has convinced the markets that he is an American version of Vladimir Putin, willing to harry firms into doing his bidding. If the president does not stand up for due process he will frighten investors across the board. The damage to Americans environment is bad enough, the president risks damaging the economy, too." That's not a partisan outfit, "The Economist".

Phoenix Woman at FDL has more on that. UK, US Tories and their Media Circle their Wagons to Protect BP:

The intense propaganda campaign to protect BP at all costs is heating up. The wagons are being circled and the propaganda flows like a busted oil well.

The current meme in the Tory community, both here and across the ocean, is that Obama’s an evil Brit-hating Socialist out to destroy business.

But this shouldn’t surprise anyone. Tories on both sides of the Atlantic, and the media organs that prop them up (the Economist, Torygraph and Daily Hitler Worshippers in the UK, FOX News et al in the US) have been doing everything in their power to shield the poor ickle BP from the oil-soaked pelicans coming home to roost.

One favorite meme: "BP is at death’s door because of you American meanies!" Erm, not exactly: Shares of BP actually rose nearly 10 percent once the deal to set up a $20 billion escrow fund was reached. Read on...

As the Columbia Journalism Review article that the FDL post linked to noted in their title The Economist Off the Deep End on BP and “Vladimir Obama”:

The normally sober Economist has gone off the wagon here.

First, it knows better than to “suggest” what “the markets” think. Second, that blew up in its face rather quickly. Instaputz points out that BP shares soared 10 percent on news of the $20 billion fund.

Most importantly, you have a giant oil company that cut corners while drilling a mile-deep well, killed eleven people, and sprung a hole in the ocean floor that’s gushing an Exxon Valdez-size spill every four days. The company has consistently lowballed the amount of oil it’s spilling (remember the 5,000-gallon barrel days?), and has caused an environmental and economic disaster in the Southeast United States. It’s a true national emergency.

...First, there’s that “investors seem” thing again. But the Economist’s spin here is obnoxious. If anything ends up ruining BP, it will have been its own actions. Go read this The Wall Street Journal piece for a look at the company’s negligence.

And BP should have to pay for all the associated costs of its actions, not just the actual bill for cleaning up the oil. These are known as externalities (an economic concept the business press doesn’t seem to grasp, but which a magazine calling itself The Economist very well should) and they will be very, very costly. Read on...

That of course didn't stop "very serious" Villager George Will from quoting their hackery and calling it "mainstream". And just one more note on This Week and their choice of guests. It's bad enough we've got to endure George Will's nonsense week after week, but we have to put up with the likes of Greta Van Susteren, Liz Cheney and Laura Ingraham as well. Are they worried that Fox isn't giving them quite enough air time?

Full Transcript via ABC News.

TAPPER: George, I want to start with you. I know you don't agree with what Republican Texas Congressman Joe Barton had to say, but does the idea of this $20 billion escrow account make you uncomfortable?

WILL: It does. Look, there is no defense of BP which has an execrable safety record in this country, from the refinery disaster in Texas in '05, the Morris Slope leak in '06, all of that and so no apology from BP. But if you don't want to live in a Northern Hemisphere Venezuela, you ought to be a little queasy about the fact that a president, any president of any party, using raw political power, without recourse to courts that exist for this sort of thing, under laws, with due process, essentially confiscates $20 billion from a publicly held corporation, about half of its shares held by Americans, to be dispensed, again, with out judicial supervision, as the political branch sees fit. That is worrisome. Even, they have even said that BP maybe held responsible for the lost wages caused by, not BP, but the administration's own moratorium, six-months moratorium, on deepwater drilling. Which maybe more costly to the economy of the Gulf than the spill itself.

TAPPER: There is a separate $100 million account for those out of work-

WILL: Yes.

TAPPER: -workers who work for those oil rigs.

MARTIN: What a shock, I'm going to disagree with that. (LAUGHTER) (CROSS TALK) Well, there are two questions here. Does the president have the authority and is that an appropriate use of his authority. And I credit George, it might not be an appropriate use of his authority. But we interviewed a number of environmental lawyers this week who say there are any number of statutes which give the president the authority to do this. And he didn't bypass, of course, BP still has access to the courts. They can challenge this at any time, they can challenge liability. And frankly, the question I have is this a ceiling or a floor? I mean, there is a reasonable argument to be made that this represents a ceiling for their liability. The president also went on the record as saying that he doesn't want BP to go away. That it is in the interests of this disaster for BP to continue as a company, as an ongoing entity. TAPPER: He said this was not capped at $20 billion, though.

MARTIN: Well, yeah, but I think you could argue that it becomes the argument for a cap. It is not legal cap, and so again, they can argue over that. The courts have not gone away. This is the means by-the president has the authority to do this and if he doesn't I'm that the courts exist to address these claims.

TAPPER: Richard, I mentioned that Rahm Emanuel, his famous quote about not letting a crisis go to waste. And they are meeting on energy policy with members of Congress on Wednesday. Do you think that the administration is seizing this and not letting this crisis go to waste.

HAASS: So far, no. They have not seized it. And I think that was the biggest weakness of the president's address the other night, from the Oval Office. It wasn't what he said, it what he didn't say. It was very thin on the policy side. The United States uses one out of every three gallons of oil in the world that are devoted to road transit. We have got to cut that back. And what I would say that argues for a much more ambitious escalation of so-called CAFE standards, of mileage standards. Secondly, the administration seems obsessed with long-term alternative fuels and the problem it, it is long term. We need to do something about the short and medium term. What I would suggest, we have that answered here at home, which is natural gas. You don't hear those words mentioned a lot, but natural gas is competitive in price, it is incredibly omnipresent, now, in the United States and it is very good for the environment. So instead of thinking about 30- or 40-year solutions we really need to think about the near term.

TAPPER: Greta, the congressional hearings with Tony Hayward, the CEO of BP, testifying provided a lot of good theater and obviously a lot of good powder for Rahm Emanuel. What was your take on that?

VAN SUSTEREN: I thought it was great theater, but that is all it was. I mean the whole idea of Congress, who-let's back up. I mean, I agree with George, and everybody else here. BP is horrible. In fact, I even think they go off easy at the White House, at $5 billion, they could have paid $7 billion in shareholder dividends.

TAPPER: $5 billion a year.

VAN SUSTEREN: $5 billion a year. Yes, I think they go off easy to start with. But the idea that Congress, who has the obligation to oversee the Department of Interior, who has the obligation to oversee MMS, and they are sitting there and for all these years they have let BP cut corners, create risks, do a cheaper way of trying to extract this oil from deep down in the Gulf floor. The idea that all of a sudden they are scandalized by what was going on BP. Why weren't they checking up on the Department of Interior, and MMS? We hear these scandals out of what they were doing. That sort of the scandals, whether it is pornography, or getting too chummy with BP, but then Congress the gall to sit and point fingers. They, themselves, ought to point fingers at themselves. It doesn't let BP off the hook. BP is horrible. But I thought Congress was only grandstanding.

TAPPER: Rahm Emanuel seemed to really seize on those Barton comments almost as if President Obama were on the ballot this year, for the 2010 midterms, running against Joe Barton. Democrats argue that Barton's comments are not really out of Republican mainstream. And here are some comments from the Republican Study Committee, in the House; 114 members of the Republican Party in the House saying: "BP's reported willingness to go along with the White House's new fund suggests that the Obama administration is hard at work exerting its brand of Chicago-style shakedown politics. These actions are emblematic of a politicization of our economy that has been born out of this administration's drive for greater power and control." George, it seems like mainstream Republican thought, if that is from the Republican Study Committee?

WILL: Well, among those asking, upon what meat doeth our Caesar feed that he has grown so great?, is "The Economist" of London, which I think we have all accept as a mainstream publication. They say, in a section of their lead editorial, called "Vladimir Obama", "The collapse of BP's share prices suggest he has convinced the markets that he is an American version of Vladimir Putin, willing to harry firms into doing his bidding. If the president does not stand up for due process he will frighten investors across the board. The damage to Americans environment is bad enough, the president risks damaging the economy, too." That's not a partisan outfit, "The Economist".

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project's picture

Asswipe you are a joke!

sixandseveneights's picture

Will: "Unless you want to become a northern hemisphere Venezuela!"

Yea George, those .12 a gallon gas prices would be terrible.
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2005/0...

Vladimir Obama! Chicago style politics! Northern hemisphere Venezuela! And all in the same clip. Fear and division is all Republicans have to offer in any argument on any subject.

woodytus's picture

If Obama hadn't intervened then he would've been ineffectual.
But
Having intervened, he's now Vladimir.

These babble heads are bankrupt in their talking points account.

Fucking Tories never did any good to the UK. The only thing they did was sparking class warfare and devide the country. No wonder that the UK is in such a shite these days. But hey, you posh bastards just go fox hunting.


Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/

ron's picture

has a Fox host on. They must be getting desparate for ratings too.

woodytus's picture

mis-spelled disparate. It's a sure fit.

Will should be forced to swim, for an entire week, at least, in the most polluted part of the Gulf.

The Last Word's picture

Where are the Republicans when you need them?

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Let me guess

If Obama used taxpayers money

To bail out BP's error

They'd be screeching like neutered Bee Gees (disco period) over wasting taxpayer's money.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Strangely enough (and much like Tucker Carlson), Will's commentary lost much of its punch when he abandoned the bow tie look.

dwelchnz's picture

The Villagers and Republicans (and a some Democrats too) are in danger of leaving their corporatists laundry out for everyone to see. George Will, as he licks the boots of his British corporate masters, sells out the best interest of BP's victims in the US. Barton was given a talking point to push and he did it with enthusiasm. I think it shocked everyone to hear just how traitorous it sounded....but they still don't get what a loser this support BP position is.

Will's got nothin'. Not a Goddamn diddley thing. Zip. Nada. Zilch. Zero.

oh really's picture

Translation: This BLACK, SOCIALIST president of this DEMOCRAT [sic] PARTY...

Oh, George, no one could ever have predicted that you would disapprove of this president or anything he does. After all, you've been such a staunch supporter...

Note: In fairness to George, he probably wouldn't say "Democrat Party."

roxsteady's picture

add to my list of people who's obiturary I'm looking foward to reading.

One thing I have to say. Every time I think that George Will couldn't be a bigger asshole than he already is, he goes and tops himself. That is talent.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

He's a bottom

Or a top?

Wait...I think I'm getting confused...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

DC's picture

What has the GOP done?

Radically Moderate ad infinitum's picture

He said that The Economist is not partisan..........no, but they are brits and the brits are heavily invested in the success of BP.


'Talk to the hand'

MountainMan23's picture

.. and there are plenty of Brits pissed at Obama for bad-mouthing BP.

And they have two reasons (per some Guardian article):

1) Obama and the American media keep calling it "British Petroleum" (tho it changed its name to BP years ago) and this makes the British look bad when of course they nothing to do with the problem.

And

2) By bad-mouthing BP they have insulted a prominent British-based corporation and driven its share values down considerably, hurting the investment portfolios of the very same people who don't like Obama and the American media calling BP "British Petroleum."

There you have it.


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Phylter's picture

"The intense propaganda campaign to protect BP at all costs is heating up. The wagons are being circled and the propaganda flows like a busted oil well.

"The current meme in the Tory community, both here and across the ocean, is that Obama’s an evil Brit-hating Socialist out to destroy business."

Wonder what tune they'll sing when the Gulf oil makes it to British waters?

Oh yeah, "Rule Britannia", it's quell the waves of crude, doing for them what BP did for us.

MountainMan23's picture

They'll be pissed at Americans for our poorly regulated oil industry.


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

osage's picture

More outrage at Obama than at the corporation whose negligence resulted in the deaths of 11 human beings! Name one Republican who has condemned BP for the deaths of the BP employees! Just ONE!

Radically Moderate ad infinitum's picture

that showed a concern for resource stewardship when they had control of all three branches of government.
One tag that you can apply to all repugs that would be universally true is that they lack the capacity of public stewardship in their governance.


'Talk to the hand'

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

What republicans think of stewardship:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsEegszL_0E


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ronspri's picture

OK, one more time. BP has admitted fault and has already agreed to pay all damages. No court necessary for that, everyone is in agreement. Beyond that, courts work slowly and many people need help now. They have procedures in place for claims.
This shakedown, Chicago style politics, daily drama talk is just that. Vacuous arguments where the purpose is to argue and nothing else.

MountainMan23's picture
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But it IS a revolutionary moment - the US govt jaw-boning a corporation to do right by the people.

Consider Exxon Valdez (1989) or Bhopal (1984) ..

What Obama did is historic.

No wonder those who value "corporate rights" over "citizens' rights" are pissed.


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

breakspear's picture

clearly sipping one too many of them thar 'Oil Koolaids'. you obviously dont really care about the environment or justice being done, really. you ACTUALLY believe that BP (even after all their other accidents) would do what they say and pay all claims? really, REALLY? gee, just look at the looooong time it took for Exxon Mobil to pay out their small pittance. Oh, and that was reduced by the activist jurists (also theyre pro-business) on the Supreme Court in 2008. (the decision half-term Palin coudnt recall when asked by Ms Couric). but youre fine with that, never mind again that the 20billion escrow will be made up easily by BP in coming years. they are a huge and profitable company after all. but its just partisanship and eternal cynicism in your world, you little boy. now go out and play with your guns and make sure you cling to'em. and no, brat, the gubment ain't gonna take'em away. they have better things to do: like running this country, handling wars, and stopping reckless businesses from getting away with environmental disasters on the cheap. oh, and shove it.

It's interesting. Exxon also profusely promised to pay for all the damage caused by the Valdez spill, yet they fought tooth and nail, all the way to the Supreme Court, where they won the right to cap their liability. And you actually believe that BP will do any less with an accident whose scale makes the Valdez look Lilliputian by comparison? As for all the conservative pundits who keep referring the aggrieved to the court system for redress, it took over 20 years for some of the Valdez "victims" to get their due in the courts. I don't see people having that kind of time to wait. This fund makes it easier to get some money to the people who need it now. I say "bravo" Mr. Obama.

constituent's picture

people of all types are criticizing obama......of course many want him to "fail"......obama in my opinion has handled this crisis well........not perfect whatever that is but well. this "shakedown" comments is political grandstanding. i blame BP or British Petroleum but i also look to cheney.

wldj's picture

instead of a journalist. The idiot doesn't even talk about baseball coherently anymore. It'ss all President Obama bashing all the time no matter what President Obama does or doesn't do according to this idiot. President Obama could end all war and george will would criticise him. Obama could stop human slavery and will would find fault, Obama could fix the oil well disaster and find fault, President Obama could achieve World Peace and george will would call him a traitor. george will is a failed human being.

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SadButTrue's picture

..the $20 BILLION that Will is whinging about "the political branch" dispensing as it sees fit with the untold amounts of money given to Goldman Sachs and AIG at the end of the Bush term. Or the federal dollars the Working Group on Financial Markets (aka the Plunge Protection Team) secretly invests in Wall Street ostensibly to 'stabilize the markets. Those are much greater dollar amounts and they are used without any public oversight whatsoever, for reasons unexplained to anyone. When there are public elections for the board of the Federal Reserve -- and openly divulged policy -- Will can get back to us on his concern over the political branch.


"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."

ian m's picture

The Right seems to be hedging its bets here, with some members of its flock calling for the government takeover of BP, while others are denouncing the twenty billion dollar escrow fund as a form of nationalization.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

I thought the right hired illegals to do their hedges...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Bill Lumbergh's picture

In the words of Pulitzer prize winning author David Rossie: "George Will is a pinhead".

smchris's picture

Enough said for the mainstream media. Expect otherwise?

stevonh's picture

these people never go away, Buchanan, Will, Limbaugh I'm sure there's some lefties too. Doesn't anybody retire?

stewartm0205's picture

comes this disaster and George Will would prefer that tens of thousands of small business men that have hundreds of thousands of workers to be driven out of business as they wait for decades to get compensation than for BP to suffer a little pain by setting up a fund that they can easily afford. This goes to show that while the GOP talks about supporting the small business man that it's just talk because they don't really care about the little people.

stupid asshats. you deserve all the crap thats being thrown at your company, end of story. your incompetence, greed, and corner cutting caused this disaster. there wouldnt be a moratorium if this hadnt happened. im sorry about other people down there who had nothing to do with this disaster being affected by this moratorium but its a small 'price' to pay (perhaps a big one) for the OBVIOUS HUGE PRICE we will all pay for a looooong time for the current disaster. the moratorium should stay where it is.

is it possible to force these asshats to go to the gulf and suck oil through a straw until every dead creature,is at the very least, cleaned of oil and given a decent burial?

upchuck's picture

20 billion dollars is not even going to cover the down payment on this 1. I'm thinking the total costs going to be around a trillion dollars and I feel that I am lowballing it.

justin case's picture

Nationalisation of the industries that the foreigners
control
Participation in the profits that we make
Shorter hours
Higher wages

bmw 528's picture

You are not worth the dust which the rude wind
Blows in your face. King Lear, (4.2.30)

Be gone now, George "Adolf" Will and trouble us no more.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

Cal Damage's picture

..again showing off why he should stick to sportswriting.

tubino's picture

Without the $20B escrow fund, the US victims might get the treatment of the people of India after the 1984 Bhopal disaster.

1984 Bhopal disaster killed thousands. Total settlement was about $500M, a tiny sum in light of the death and destruction, and it took over 20 years for $ to reach survivors. AND JUST THIS MONTH (!) came the sentencing on criminal charges! June 7, 2010: 7 ex-employees convicted of causing death by negligence. 26 years later!

THAT is a great example to hold up to Republicans who think there is something wrong with an administration looking out for US citizens by pushing for an escrow fund.

epeoples's picture

The oil industry in Venezuela was nationalized long before Hugo Chavez.

-ep

Oh yeah , Will is credible and objective isn't he ? Bill Krystol has nothing on this guy . He is a joke , laughable really .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

Hey George, if energy is such a national security issue, then why is it left in the hands of private furriners? And which consumers hath BP profited from that makes them great?


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

Here's to Chavez ! Buy Citgo gas ! My how they hate it when someone comes along who won't play the game , someone they can't control ! Ohhhhhhhhhhh no !


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

stevief's picture

I know this isn't the most sophisticated analysis of the situation but I feel it provides pretty sound advice: ***FUCK*** The Economist.

Thank you.

tequilamockingbird's picture

"That's not a partisan outfit, 'The Economist'". Oh, really? The Economist is a pretty close British parallel to the Wall Street Journal. Maybe not as blatantly partisan, but about as corporatist -- in the popular sense, meaning the domination of politics by the interests of business corporations -- as they get. Kind of like the Roberts court.

In his reference to a "Northern Hemisphere Venezuela," he intimates that the escrow fund is the equivalent of expropriation. He says the six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling may be more costly to the economy of the Gulf than the spill itself. He knows those things are not true.

And he compares Obama to Julius Caesar -- who was assassinated by a group of his senators. Beware the Ides of March!

longnow's picture

When George Will wrote those
columns about climate change that
he knew contained false info he was
giving the signal to the RNC, the
Cheney's and the crowd at Nat'l Review
Weekly Standard that he was not going to fight them.
It was an admission, and I don't blame him,
that he is flat out afraid of Dick Cheney
and the Koch Bros. Peggy Noonan? She stood up
in the past but she will sit down and she will do what
she is told and remember to tear up, on cue, whenever
Reagan's legacy is mentioned.

Who cares what George Will says. They're all saying it. Let em. They sound like tools of the giant corporations.

cycle3man's picture

The technique of mining natural gas called, “fracking”
poisons all ground water sullies.

Richard Haas, misleads by telling half truths about the
Mining of natural gas, failing to reveal the long term
Damage to water supplies. Once an artesian well is
Contaminated, the water is undrinkable for all time.
Richard Hass if your gonna’ pedal natural gas, please tell
The whole story!!!!1

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