It's about time the president started to make clear his intentions of backing a real public option and stop letting Blue Doggers take charge of this debate. From the White House blog:
The President calls on Congress to seize this opportunity – one that may not come again for decades – and finally pass health care reform: " That’s why any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans – including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest – and choose what’s best for your family.
It’s about every family unable to keep up with soaring out of pocket costs and premiums rising three times faster than wages. Every worker afraid of losing health insurance if they lose their job, or change jobs. Everyone who’s worried that they may not be able to get insurance or change insurance if someone in their family has a pre-existing condition..."
Transcript below the fold.
Right now in Washington, our Senate and House of Representatives are both debating proposals for health insurance reform. Today, I want to speak with you about the stakes of this debate, for our people and for the future of our nation.
This is an issue that affects the health and financial well-being of every single American and the stability of our entire economy.
It’s about every family unable to keep up with soaring out of pocket costs and premiums rising three times faster than wages. Every worker afraid of losing health insurance if they lose their job, or change jobs. Everyone who’s worried that they may not be able to get insurance or change insurance if someone in their family has a pre-existing condition.
It’s about a woman in Colorado who told us that when she was diagnosed with breast cancer, her insurance company – the one she’d paid over $700 a month to – refused to pay for her treatment. She had to use up her retirement funds to save her own life.
It’s about a man from Maryland who sent us his story – a middle class college graduate whose health insurance expired when he changed jobs. During that time, he needed emergency surgery, and woke up $10,000 in debt – debt that has left him unable to save, buy a home, or make a career change.
It’s about every business forced to shut their doors, or shed jobs, or ship them overseas. It’s about state governments overwhelmed by Medicaid, federal budgets consumed by Medicare, and deficits piling higher year after year.
This is the status quo. This is the system we have today. This is what the debate in Congress is all about: Whether we’ll keep talking and tinkering and letting this problem fester as more families and businesses go under, and more Americans lose their coverage. Or whether we’ll seize this opportunity – one we might not have again for generations – and finally pass health insurance reform this year, in 2009.
Now we know there are those who will oppose reform no matter what. We know the same special interests and their agents in Congress will make the same old arguments, and use the same scare tactics that have stopped reform before because they profit from this relentless escalation in health care costs. And I know that once you’ve seen enough ads and heard enough people yelling on TV, you might begin to wonder whether there’s a grain of truth to what they’re saying. So let me take a moment to answer a few of their arguments.
First, the same folks who controlled the White House and Congress for the past eight years as we ran up record deficits will argue – believe it or not – that health reform will lead to record deficits. That’s simply not true. Our proposals cut hundreds of billions of dollars in unnecessary spending and unwarranted giveaways to insurance companies in Medicare and Medicaid. They change incentives so providers will give patients the best care, not just the most expensive care, which will mean big savings over time. And we have urged Congress to include a proposal for a standing commission of doctors and medical experts to oversee cost-saving measures.
I want to be very clear: I will not sign on to any health plan that adds to our deficits over the next decade. And by helping improve quality and efficiency, the reforms we make will help bring our deficits under control in the long-term.
Those who oppose reform will also tell you that under our plan, you won’t get to choose your doctor – that some bureaucrat will choose for you. That’s also not true. Michelle and I don’t want anyone telling us who our family’s doctor should be – and no one should decide that for you either. Under our proposals, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. If you like your current insurance, you keep that insurance. Period, end of story.
Finally, opponents of health reform warn that this is all some big plot for socialized medicine or government-run health care with long lines and rationed care. That’s not true either. I don’t believe that government can or should run health care. But I also don’t think insurance companies should have free reign to do as they please.
That’s why any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans – including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest – and choose what’s best for your family. And that’s why we’ll put an end to the worst practices of the insurance industry: no more yearly caps or lifetime caps; no more denying people care because of pre-existing conditions; and no more dropping people from a plan when they get too sick. No longer will you be without health insurance, even if you lose your job or change jobs.
The good news is that people who know the system best are rallying to the cause of change. Just this past week, the American Nurses Association, representing millions of nurses across America, and the American Medical Association, representing doctors across our nation, announced their support because they’ve seen first-hand the need for health insurance reform.
They know we cannot continue to cling to health industry practices that are bankrupting families, and undermining American businesses, large and small. They know we cannot let special interests and partisan politics stand in the way of reform – not this time around.
The opponents of health insurance reform would have us do nothing. But think about what doing nothing, in the face of ever increasing costs, will do to you and your family.
So today, I am urging the House and the Senate, Democrats and Republicans, to seize this opportunity, and vote for reform that gives the American people the best care at the lowest cost; that reins in insurance companies, strengthens businesses and finally gives families the choices they need and the security they deserve.
Thanks.




I work in health care and can testify that insurance IS THE PROBLEM.
People who come to us whose insurance we don't take sit for hours in our waiting room waiting to be transferred to a facility that does take the insurance. They aren't receiving care. They just sit there.
Sometimes over 24 hours.
And the insurance we take or don't take changes so fast that often we don't even know if we take the insurance until days or weeks after the person came to us.
Insurance companies dictate the care we provide. We are a mental health crisis unit. We are required to give anyone who comes to us one of three diagnosis whether or not the diagnosis is actually accurate. if we give any other diagnosis then we don't get paid.
So you may be mis-diagnosed on purpose at the bequest of the insurance company.
Seriously. They are really, REALLY bad and we need to stop the bullshit.
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Q U E S T I O N:
Not only are these Multi Conglomerate Insurance Corporations profiting from people's ill health, but they get a seat at Congress' table because these Corporations PAY for the privilege that was originally GRANTED to We, The People.
HOW IS THAT EVEN DEMOCRATIC?
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Starve the WAR Beast...
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He talks about cutting off the corporate health insurance companies noses yet they were the only ones invited to the "meeting".
Physicians who support Single Payer were forced to call out their demands in a Senate subcommittee hearing and got ARRESTED because they were not invited to have a seat at the table.
This show is being run by the major insurance cabal which we all witnessed at ABC's sham health care town hall meeting. Total B.S. It was so B.S. that when they realized Obama's doctor was going to mention his support for Single Payer by equating it to "Medicare" that they DISINVITED HIM A FEW DAYS PRIOR TO THE BROADCAST.
Plus, if President Obama is so damn concerned about the American people, then why won't any of the legislation kick in for almost four more years???!!
I'm calling B.S. on all of this.
We've already paid for our healthcare with our taxes! We're just getting bombs and guns and death and destruction instead!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I no longer believe what Obama says.. His words do not mean very much ,if so explain why his campaign promises were disregarded after he was elected..
Still in Iraq ,
Still illegally spying on Americans,
Changed his statement of re-negotiating the free trade bill and now says he will not,
The torture and other crimes which are charged to There are charges with are recorded and Bush/Cheney have stated on the news of Bush's administration which illegal , but he will stop investigation and prosecution of them,
Obama continue to gave our tax money to the Global Banking Empire while they used it for their overseas banks , paying them selves bonuses and salaries , while not opening a cash flow to American citizens ,
The health bill when it passes will be nothing but a water down plan which the private health institutions have paid millions a day to have it their way,
Where in the h... is the "change" and "transparent" government..
The health bill is being debated behind closed doors and Obama is still censoring government actions and policies as Bush did..
Obama is starting a new government agency to control the internet and the flow of every key stroke everyone makes..
As far as I see this is the 3rd term of Bush/Cheney administration..
Our senate and house of representatives are growing in numbers of republicans elected on our democrat ticket every election..
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Nothing less than Single Payer health care is needed to save our nation from bankruptcy. The corporate (fascist) Insurance companies will stop at nothing (ABSOLUTELY NOTHING) to keep their strangle hold on our nation. If we fail to stop them here and now, we will go down in history as the generation that neglected our responsibilities to safeguard democracy from corporatism (fascism). It is as simple as that. The corporations own our government. They buy influence and access that ordinary Americans can not. They subvert, corrupt, and rot the checks and balances of a truly representative government. The democrats and Obama in particular have sold out to the same corporate interests as their republican counterparts. The People are not represented. We are, in fact, played against each other with the simple, tactical ploy of divide and conquer. American citizens, Please... I implore you, stop them now. Recognize that unbridled greed in the form of corporations is a malignant cancer on our democracy and our liberty. The lobbyists and those whom they represent are thieves that will destroy us; for their objective is profit above ALL else.
My head is so sore from banging it on my keyboard. Single-payer. Or nothing. No compromise.
To the President: We all know what the problems are. No disrespect, but can someone tell us why single-payer was never on the table? Can someone give us rock-solid details of some of the reforms that are being proposed? Why the secrecy? The only people who are worried about deficits are wing-nuts and insurance company shills. Don't even mention it again. The majority of people want single-payer coverage, but you worry about a few wing-nuts? Stop it. We want to trust you, but you are making it hard to do so. Stop that, too. Please. And finally, for now, what is wrong with socialized medicine? When you act like socialism is a dirty word, you only confirm the ignorance of stupid people. The post office is socialistic, but no one complains about paying 44 cents to mail a letter. It would be better to debunk the "socialism" bogey-man. Teach them something. I do not want to overwhelm you, so TTFN.
...but his administration did give a reason. Because there is not support among Dems or Repubs for single-payer. It was a no-go from the beginning. Sad but ... he is right.
Thank you!
In case anyone hasn't read "War Is A Racket" by Gen. Smedley Butler, here it is:
http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/wa...
He warned us against corporate control the same as Eisenhower did.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
What is this BS about hurrying it up to pass it in a month.. Did we not go thru this with the Iraq war , illegal spying , no-bid war contracts , the bailout welfare checks to the Wealth Global Banking Empire , bailout GM while they sent shut down plants and sent American jobs overseas , while cutting the remaining workers wages and benefits, and the bankrupt option let then purge all law suite that were against them..
Where in the h... are our jobs and homes... Overseas and in the hands of the very banking empire which our money was given to..
Obama Has become what Hillary stated about him on the campaign trail..
Obama has nothing but a speech and he is not fulfilling his promises.
If I just looked at the policies and actions he has taken and forget his speeches , I would say he was a republican and this was the Bush/Cheney's 3rd term...
Most of ?our corporate democrat officials have become republicans. They can call it moving to the center (right) but when you look at the legislation it has the finger prints of the republican policies all over it..
It certainly has nothing for American workers , except a couple of bones to make up feel good..
I can not believe we are letting them get by with these actions and policies. You can no longer find a product making in USA ,, They try use a name of a American city where they received it from overseas and stamped it..
I am mad as h... and can not see why others are not the same...
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army of volunteers that pushed Obama to November victory?
Remember the thousands of never-been-involved-in-politics folks who nevertheless felt compelled to knock on doors, pass out fliers and make endless calls urging votes and support?
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This is the USA...
United
States of
Apathy
THEY DON'T CARE...
... Because they've been told NOT too.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
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have decided to go back to being Republicans.
instead of creating a train wreck. This rushing to pass something just to say we passed it crap is getting old.
It's about people (in both parties) who are supposed to represent us however they really represent their corporate masters. And the corporate masters have been trying like hell to bring back the days of 100% servitude from all Americans, like we had back in the days before unions and workers rights and civil rights.
And don't fool yourself enough to believe that Obama is also part of that agenda and if he goes against it then they will produce some nonsense to turn the stupids in America against him.
It`about time.
..with a sharp stick. Which I wouldn't have the insurance to go see a doctor about.
But while I'll back it as better than nothing, which is what we have now, I can't see how an 'insurance exchange, one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans – including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest' is really going to work. How, if you lose your job, are you NOT going to be without health insurance under this plan? If the choice is feeding your kids or paying for health insurance, ANY health insurance, you're still going to have a lot of people falling through the cracks. And what of people who do not have the intellectual or technological capability of sitting down at their computers to compare cost, benefits and track records of insurance plans? Insurance for smart people only?
Single-payer health care (which is the American euphemism for universal health care to make it more palatable for those who've been brainwashed to tremble at the word 'socialized') is the only sensible option. But since it's obvious that we're not going to get it, better half a loaf than none at all.
Even if it means we still are going to go hungry.
Notice they don't mention the "penalties"/"fines" that will be levied against us if we don't buy their freakin' insurance.
Seems like the corporations have become our new "Kings" that we need to throw off....
The only way to do it is to put ordinary Americans into Congress....doctors, nurses, educators etc.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
We get hit with medical bills too. I was recently taken to the hospital with severe chest pain and difficulty breathing. It turned out to be a false alarm and Tricare, the military insurance company, has paid most of it. What they refuse to cover is now being billed to me by the hospital. I don't know if I will be able to get out from under it or not. We shall see. We need nationalized health care and we need it now. Look at the British, Canadian and French systems to see what they got right and wrong. Adopt the good stuff and fix the bad stuff. Any insurance lobbyists that get in the way... deal with them.
doctors who prefer the US system because it does what it is designed to do which is deliver high incomes to doctors.
One of my doctors, a specialist, normally charges $130.00 for an office visit. Medicare pays him $15.00 per office visit. He said he almost wishes he had never started taking Medicare patients, but he is an honorable man, and he did. He didn't say he's an honorable man, I am saying it. Surgeons get the big bucks--thousands for a few hours in surgery, but other doctors are constrained by how many patients they can see in a day, and other logistical considerations. If you have gotten any large bills from a hospital stay, and I hope you haven't, then you would have seen that the doctors receive the least money of all the "players.". It is kind of counter-intuitive. I had a knee replaced. It cost $75,000.00. One knee. My surgeon got $4000.00.
your surgeon would have to pay over 40% taxes, and from the $2500 left, he has to pay another 30% (at least) to cover his own malpractice insurance.
Also, in that operating room there were more people than just the attending surgeon. And the equipment, and...
Sure, surgeons get paid a pretty penny and some of them are in it for the money. But it takes a lot of education, dedication and cost to become a surgeon. And honestly, the competent surgeons actually earn their money.
The main problem is not with the care givers and the health care professionals, it is with the healthcare management corporations. Which add little to no value to the overall providing of healthcare, and they expect a 40% overhead for just shifting a couple of pieces of paper around.
I am married to a surgeon, and I find the petulant allegations and generalizations from people lie Evet a tad insulting.
get those numbers from? They don't pay 40% in taxes or 30% in malpractice insurance.
a) Income tax brackets, my wife is in the 40+% bracket.
b) Her malpractice premium was over $60K last year, and Cali is one of the states with some of the cheapest rates (thanks to regulation). Other states may be as much as 3 times that figure.
If anything I was low balling...
who is a doctor of Radiology who pays about 30k a yeat for malprctice and since he is incorporated probably doesn't pay much in taxes.
... different specialties have different liability premiums (she's cardiovascular). If she was licensed in other states she could very well be paying over $150K a year for her malpractice package (Florida for example has some insane malpractice premiums)
Unfortunately her specialty does not lend well to S incorporation...
How can your wife be in a 40+% bracket when the top tax bracket in the United States is 35%?
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I WANT
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CARE !
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Thanks, Barack, that's mighty Republican of you to say so.
Sadly, that sort of comment is what it will take if he has a prayer of getting this passed.
Which I don't think will happen until Americans rip up the cobblestones and turn over streetcars which they won't. We are a docile folk - for all our adulation of John Wayne.
...and if you parse the statement closely, he says run health CARE not healthcare access. Few in the government are health care professionals, but there are professional administrators who can do much better than the private insurance types because they are not driven by greed for their company and their own subsequent bonuses.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/18/obam...
This hurry up and pass this health bill before American get a full smell of it.. They are getting nervous about American which are starting to realize they are going to be taking..
It is starting to smell like the Iraq , illegal spying , treason , torture , no bid war contracts , bailout , sellout of union in the GM welfare..
Seem as if this fear card and hurry up and give me what I demand has become the policy and practice of the government.
They do not want the full details of this piece of legislation to get to the American citizens before they stamp their approval on it..
Why is it that the Global Health institutions attends the meetings , gives their wishes/demands for insertion into the legislation and the American citizens which it effects and will have to pay and live with it are censored from these meetings.
You have better hold your nose if it passes because I have a feeling that it will stink to high heaven and then some..
Obama has turn on the very voters which voted him into office...
A soon as I heard he had chosen Emanuel I knew we were scr...
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it should pay for it.
Vitamin K is a blood clotting agent. Sadly, the denizens of K St. are the clotters of health care reform regardless of the seeming turn around of Harry and Louise. That's just a PR ploy. Any hint of controlling cost and they'll go ballistic with the usual charges of government incompetence and socialism.
Make no mistake, they own Congress. When Pharma or Humana or Anthem say jump, everyone from Pelosi to McConnell asks, "How high?"
Also - very sadly - the American people will once again shrug and flip the channel to American Idol or some equally inane reality show - the Roman Games of our era.
Obamacare primary care medicine, NP=MD!
Haven't you read the bill?
http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/pu...
p445--"The term "physician" includes, except as the Secretary may otherwise
provide, any individual who furnishes services for which payment may be
made as physicians' services."
p461--"Authority to allow Nurse Practitioners and Physician assistants (consistent with state law) to be in charge of a patient centered medical home."
I sense a lot of anger in many of the posts.
That's good! It's good to be angry in the face of all this.
The people are sick and tired -both literally and figuratively- of the status quo.
They're sick and tired of corporate interests OWNING their government.
Of getting wars and weapons for their taxes instead of health care and education.
Of seeing their jobs being sent to the low wage country du jour while the CEOs keep indulging in rock star salaries and bonuses, even in the face of bailouts and recession.
They're tired of politicians without a conscience who will lie and say anything their corporate masters want them to say, their constituents be damned.
They're tired of paying for a 3 course meal and getting only a few breadcrumbs.
Are we witnessing the final straw about to drop on the camel's back? Or is it going to take much more than this?
Anything--any bill that comes to his desk--that can even remotely be spun as "reform" will be signed with as much fanfare aas accompanied the end of WW II...,
Enact the "Public Option" alongside the private insurance, then have a media blitz. Buy up every ad spot on tv and radio and newspaper for an entire MONTH or just mandate it in congress, because they will be public service announcements government shouldn't have to pay for. Then use those ads to inform every insured American that whatever they are currently paying to insurance companies they will pay HALF to the public option, with NO co-pays, NO deductibles AND ALL their health care will be covered INCLUDING Out patient, In patient, Primary Care, All Specialties, AND Dental and Vision and Prescription drugs, AND Over The Counter drugs PRESCRIBED by a physician. AND that those paying into insurance companies who fall below a set income level will not pay anything at all.
Give them a window of 6 months to decide initially and then give them the option once a year to change their minds if they originally chose to stay with the DEATH DEALING profit mongers.
BUT, let it be known that if they come down with a MAJOR illness and their for profit private insurance gets cancelled, they WILL have to wait for the next enrollment period to be covered.
Then we will SEE how many really LOVE putting their health care dollars into CEOs bank account as PROFIT.
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