Tom Tancredo Calls La Raza a "Latino KKK Without the Hoods or Nooses"
By Heather Thursday May 28, 2009 3:00pm
Rick Sanchez brings on Tom Tancredo and Media Matters' Eric Boehlert to discuss the right's accusations that Sonia Sotomayor is a racist and should be disqualified from serving on the Supreme Court. Today Tancredo decided his dose of the crazy on The Ed Schultz Show just wasn't enough and takes it a step further.
h/t Think Progress for the transcript
TANCREDO: If you belong to an organization called La Raza, in this case, which is, from my point of view anyway, nothing more than a Latino — it’s a counterpart — a Latino KKK without the hoods or the nooses. If you belong to something like that in a way that’s going to convince me and a lot of other people that it’s got nothing to do with race. Even though the logo of La Raza is “All for the race. Nothing for the rest.” What does that tell you?
SANCHEZ: Alright. We’re not talking about — we’re not talking about La Raza –
TANCREDO: She’s a member! She’s a member of La Raza!
Thankfully Media Matters' Boehlert was there for a dose of sanity and called out Rick Sanchez who was still quoting Sotomayor out of context and corrects him for his error. Boehlert, the author of the great book "Bloggers on the Bus," called the attacks on Sotomayor a "rush to the gutter by the right". You can watch the entire exchange courtesy of Media Matters here.
John Amato:
I ask once again. Why is Tom Tancredo on my TV? It's all for "conflict." He has nothing to offer and is no longer part of the GOP. He's a former anti-Latino House Republican who ran for president on a racist platform. He's there to call Sonia a racist. That's his function and it's one that he performs well. He's the Mozart of Racism.
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Three frists in a row! that has to be a record! What do I get? Is there a prize for that?
all Hispanic people are baggy wearing thugs wearing tattoos.
...to get into KKK Heaven. If he keeps it up, he'll even have a key to the executive bathroom.
no, those are all the blacks.
/snark
I can share my "Get a Life" award with you.
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hahahahaha! Gimme that!!!
by Hispanic thugs before but I thought it was kind of funny.
parts of Miami by the latin kings whilst skateboarding...
That wasn't very funny.
That was years ago, and technically I was on their "turf", but I was still pissed.
I fuckin hate gangs.
have no idea how much I hate to admit it. I agree with you. Mexican street gangs are a cancer on our country and need to be eradicated.
...the last time La Raza lynched anybody.
Tancredo, you will burn in H-E-DoubleHockeySticks, you pugnacious, putrescent, pud-pulling punkass.
specifically a civil rights advocacy org, not a hate group in any way, except in the minds of racists like Tanestupido.
lynching. LOL
He sees another opportunity to attack my community for no other reason than his knuckle-dragging bigotry. What he needs to do is crawl back under the rock he came from.
We should be so lucky.
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Ah...tommy t...loons on parade... coming down from the mountains after a semi-tough winter in Colorado....gettin some grub..have a couple of ears of corn...a couple of swigs of corn mash.. and is now ready to go...
tommy t IS a grand wizard of the Colorado KKK..has been for years...He's also certifiable..as first rate loon.... and also someone that needs to be watched closely since he very prone to going off high places without a paddle....
He was embarrassed by the fact that his mother was holding Italian Spaghetti Dinners to help him in his fundraising.
He aspires to be a WASP male!
Tancredo must be the GOP's.
Actually - I've said he fits right in.
Hate, stupidity, bigotry . . . yep - he's got what it takes.
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Tancredo...living proof that the insane can win elections.
Right. Because god knows we've had enough of all those armed Latino gangs dragging innocent people from their homes at night and murdering them in cold blood, while their friends look on, drinking brewskis and laughing. Yep, we've certainly had enough of THAT!
Christ, can these fatheads be any MORE moronic and insane?
you my friend have obviously have never lived in a varrio neighborhood or you would not make light of it. I hate that gang banger crap and lost a good friend behind it.
I'm talking about the KKK. You know, those armed white gangs that drag innocent people from their homes and murder them in cold blood, while their friends look on, drinking brewskis and laughing?
Try picking up a history book sometime. You'll learn some surprising things about this country. GRINGO.
It's BARRIO, not "varrio". Seems your street cred is not quite as awesome as you think it is.
The "V" in Spanish has a tendency to be pronounced like a "B".
The Urban Dictionary has it listed as "varrio".
Gangs or mobs of people are never a good thing regardless of which ethnic group or tribe comprises of the said group.
When your in the Varrio it's Varrio. It's slang and used way more than Barrio. I am only half "GRINGO" BTW. I grew up on the north side of fort worth and know plenty about the "street" and low life gangs. Like the fact that they are no better than the "WHITE" slime that you refer to. That was the point of my first comment. That you make it sound like the KKK or "WHITE" hate groups have a monopoly on the murder and kidnaping market. In fact if you were sooooo in tune to the "street" and blustering with "CRED" you would know that Mexican gangs are into kidnaping in a huge way. Just ask anyone from a border town. And yes believe it or not they drink "brewskis' too. Excelsior you have just shown that you really don't have a clue when it comes to this issue.
How about Phoenix AZ which is the kidnapping capital of the US and second only to Mexico City in the world.
to walk around holding in one's brain so much ignorance. There has to be some connection being an ignorant idiot and the republican party. Find a republican and it immediately lowers the median IQ in the room. Lack of oxygen at childbirth? I don't know. But somebody talk to that idiot and tell him, "If you cannot say something positive shut your mouth".
Wackos bring in the ratings and bucks. The Monopolies have no ethics.
The right has been trying to turn National Council of La Raza into a boogie man of armed Hispanics who want to drive whites out of portions of the US to form the country Altzan.
Look what a Google Image search for la raza turns up.
Here are some recognizable right wing sources:
Michell Malkin:
World Net Daily:
with a map showing what parts of the US will be incorporated into Aztlan.
http://illegalaliennewsupdate.com/wp-content/...
Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA) in Human Events:
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does this idiot get an audience!
Because he is so absolutely insane that many people will switch channels to watch him. It's like watching a train wreck for you or me and for the wingnut wacko right it is preaching to the choir and like to hear it. More people watching = more money for the channel/network.
Also you have to understand when he talks to the Nazis he has a solid audience for him but it is just not as big as what he gets on CNN.
I've never even heard of it. What is it?
n/m I see Monkeyboy's post up there.
Or The Race, could refer to the National Council of La Raza (an advocacy group) or Raza Unida (a third political party with a Latino identifier).
In this case I believe Tank means the former. So you can see the comparison, right?
After all, the KKK is not preaching hate but White Pride! That's their latest lie.
and all this stupidity will suddenly disappear and we will be off to the next 'controversy'. The energy being wasted on this kind of bullshit is so demoralizing. We have better things to worry about. People who have nothing concrete and constructive to say need to stay out of the way. We don't have time to waste on stupidity. If the Republicans can't find intelligent candidates they need to step aside.
Children are going hungry.
Families are going without health care.
People are jobless.
The planet is in peril.
And the Republican's bullshit.
I recommend this advice to any RNC Nazis like Tancredo, Hannity or Limbaugh reading this. Please make sure to prepare your Senators to refer to her as "Maria" or "Lupe" or by whatever Latina name pops into their head at the moment, especially if that name belongs to a member of their illegal alien household staff.
Hispanic people especially love it when old fat white men on dope confuse them for famous dancing Puerto Ricans from musical theatre.
First thing I thought was, "Yes, we're all named Maria! *mental eye rolling*"
Of course, my middle name actually is Maria, but that's another story. LOL
the reichwingnuttia bastards are not far
from saying that killing people is just
a temporary condition in life.
the gop, the anti-christ party,is totally F#CKED UP !
Who has a history of stringing up minorities from oak trees in this country, Latino's or white conservatives?
that would be the party of
beck, hannity, limpballs,coultergist and
cheney, all bigots and racists.
Why would any gay, lesbian, Black, Latino or sane person want to be associated with the Republican Party?
STOP USING THE FRIGGIN WORD HISPANIC.
Its a word made up because they (the stupid whites - not all, only the stupid whites) don't like us calling ourselves Latinos!
Me, I am Chicano!
Mexican-American, whether they like it or not! :D
they started to hypenate us to make it clear that we weren't just plain ol' amerrykuns. Then when we accepted it, they tried to say we were trying to differentiate ourselves.
Me, I won't let them define me. That is why I am Chicano. They hate that word but f... them!
Damn, that was fast! Just sayin:)
Sorry, didn't catch that...
I'll give you a hint. What's the opposite of dry? Now, what's the opposite of front? Now what do you get when the two are combined?
I guess that was offensive to some:) I never heard that till recently.
Oh boy are you in need of a clue...
Well I got to hear it a lot growing up.
N word! Besides I say, ya'll go back where you came from and see who gets wetter swimmiing the ocean.
Many of us are indigenous or the offspring of the indigenous. We have been here for centuries if not a millenia.
You want to use that word? You want to call me a wetback. You better hope you are not nearby me when you do!
Just all unite in the spirit of togetherness and come after me with a board with a nail in it and call me a big f****t.
Would you rather be called Sasquatch?
So I'm hardly a bigf**t.
Sasquatch sounds too fat.
I try not to offend anyone bigger than myself.
That's a question that's only known to other f****ts.
;)
Is humour allowed here?
but non-Murkin spellin' ain't.
I did it again!
When Weird Al spoofed Brittany Spears, why didn't he sing "I'm Not That Talented"?
Obviously not. My black friends call me cracker and it don't bother me. We get a big laugh out of it! Good thing I didn't mention if it was ok if I put in an order of Nachos Bellgrande with the guy! Lol!
Damn, you're old.
in tennis. Its the food!
It describes a people who speak a certain language- almost exactly like Latino does! The difference is that no one speaks Latin any longer but lawyers and Latin teachers.
away from those who want to use it.
Blacks did the same and proclaimed their blackness as pride and I say good for them.
You want to use the Hispano, then go for it, if you mean many of us speak Spanish. But, we are not from Spain and have little resemblance to the Europeans.
There is no such thing as "ic" in Spanish.
simply meant an American of Mexican ancestry back in the 70's.
Is it different now?
philosphy. Those that proudly wear the label tend to be more educated, and I suppose you can say radical. We took to the streets, we battled cops and we took over buildings in the name of social justice. And we will fight for the Constitution.
There are a lot of people of Mexican ancestry that do not like the term because for years it was associated with the xicanos (indigenous) whom are looked down upon almost universally in Mexico, because they are native.
I embrace my indigenous roots.
Using your own logic...
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Or "French" in French, or "German" in German!
And it's odd that you use a term to describe yourself that better describes an ancient civilization of the Italian peninsula.
You pointed out:
I'm not going to deny that. But until the Spanish arrived, your ancestors had no idea that Latin existed.
self definition. I can play the label game as well as you, if not better!
Can't you allow this person the dignity of his/her own self-expression?
chicano2nd isn't the one with the problem...
people" movements too. The things that mixed-race but not necesarily Chicano people are up against are a lot of the same of the fuss Andy is making.
Just look at all the people who are angry that Tiger Woods doesn't identify himself in a way that's pleasing to them.
Identify themselves as Mulattoes. When my younger daughter sees a mixed couple with childresn she says "the Nation Rises!"
She would prefer it if everyone was mixed.
and Latina, I identify as mestiza period since my Mom is a mix of Northeast Mexican indigenous tribes and Spanish, and my Dad was a mix of Southeast U.S. tribes and British Isles folk. :)
It makes me glad to see mixed families and children too.
And a good way to eliminate racism.
I always thought multiracial folk are the best looking, too.
is Deutscher.
la palabra es español!
speaking countries don't even speak Spanish, they speak Indigenous languages. So while Latino may be troublesome to you, Hispanic is troublesome to us as well because it homogenizes us. We are not all Spanish speakers of European ancestry.
So what's the difference, then, between hispanic and latino? Because neither seem to make sense.
Honestly, until I saw this yesterday, I have never once in my life heard of or read that "hispanic" is denigrating. And I might not have ever lived in the southwest, but I've known many Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, Guatemalans, Hondurans and Salvadorans for quite a long time. And they never generalized their backgrounds as either hispanic or latino, but identified themselves by their nationalities.
Hispanic and Richard M. Nixon!
I thought I was politically aware back in the day! I had no idea!
I love diversity!
...and I still don't really get the outrage. Is it that some bureaucrats went with the English word that means the same thing as the Spanish word? Or is it because there's some stigma attached to checking a box that over-generalizes your ethnic background (if that's the case, I can feel ya, because I think caucasian over-generalizes me)?
Me,I'm just waiting for the day when we all simply identify as human.
"It's complicated. Many people in what we think of as Spanish speaking countries don't even speak Spanish, they speak Indigenous languages. So while Latino may be troublesome to you, Hispanic is troublesome to us as well because it homogenizes us. We are not all Spanish speakers of European ancestry."
I could say the exact same thing about being called white. What we call white people are actually a hugely diverse population... but you wouldn't know it listening to most people refer to the stereotypical white person... or the "stupid whites"...
As a black man and as a Christian I have always felt as if the media was naming my spokesmen,
There was always a "Leader of the African American Community" or "Christian Spokesman" telling America that we all believed the trash that tumbled from their well coiffed heads.
Heck, I don't need a leader, I can speak my own piece!
Also, when someone says "xxx Community" it implies that everyone with that characteristic believes the same way, like "Black Community" "Gay Community" or "Hispanic Community."
From what I've seen there are a bunch of people with a bunch of different ideas and opinions, but because they have a certain common characteristic, they get put into a "community."
It's all a way to divide people up into groups to tell some sort of social narrative that probably has little basis in reality.
"Also, when someone says "xxx Community" it implies that everyone with that characteristic believes the same way, like "Black Community" "Gay Community" or "Hispanic Community."
This is why I sometimes say "our communities" or "Latino communities." We're smart enough to know there's differences in the lives and perspectives of Mexicans in East Los Angeles, Puerto Ricans in the Bronx, Cubans in Miami, etc.
The corporate types that are at the top of the food chain love to keep us "groups" further down divided and fighting among ourselves so they can keep the attention off their Crimes.
DemoChristain.
"You want to use that word? You want to call me a wetback. You better hope you are not nearby me when you do!"
What, are you going to cut me? Lol!
sabe!
I'm not worried, I'll bring a pinata to distract you! Lol!
you think your hood isn't distracting enough?
Yes, because that's what I have the candy and prizes in, lol!
A piñata, a hood and candy I know is there but can't see. But, how do you know they aren't distracting you?
The INS is at my front door asking about my Mexican housekeeper!
Your kung fu is good chicano2nd. But you have much too learn. You are still no match for me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glsUlacDN7Q
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I was a Negro when I was in elementry school.
I was an Afro-American in junior high.
I was a Black in high school.
In college I was African American again.
In the army I was a Black soldier.
Now, I'm an identity voter because I voted for Obama.
But through it all to The Tank, I was just another ******.
Is that with an "er" or just an "a"?
When you were an "Afro-American" I assume it was the 70s? ;)
I try not to use the words I grew up with.
Yes, it was the 70's.
I am an American.
Are you ready to allow French, Italians, Romanians, Spaniards and Portugese under that Latino umbrella?
Latino and Hispanic are both derived from the language spoken by a group of people. Latin is the lingua franca, and thus much more general. Hispanic merely narrows it down to those who speak Spanish, no?
Here is a hint: Latinos are native to the Americas, Latins are native to Southern Europe.
Most Spaniards are of the Latin persuasion, an American of Mexican descent is a Latino.
Hispanic is just another stupid title some white people in this country came up with because they need to organize everybody in a neat little box.... because their feeble minds can't comprehend the amount of racial and cultural mixing that has been going on for eons in these lands when they were not looking.
"some white people"....
That's one of the more hypocritical comments I've seen recently. You're complaining about feeble minded people not being able to comprehend the amount of racial and cultural mixing, and then you just label them by saying it was some white people...
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chicano2nd :
"STOP USING THE FRIGGIN WORD HISPANIC.
Its a word made up because they (the stupid whites - not all, only the stupid whites) don't like us calling ourselves Latinos!
Me, I am Chicano!"
Hmm, I guess I am a "stupid white" because I used it after seeing an official statement from La Raza referencing Alberto Gonzales that way. Who's right? Am I going to get chastised no matter what?
We are very encouraged by the Gonzales nomination," said the glowing endorsement by La Raza. "We previously criticized the Bush administration for not having an Hispanic in the cabinet since the departure of former HUD Secretary, now Senator-elect, Mel Martinez. We are pleased that one of the first acts since the president’s re-election both rectifies that situation and marks an historic milestone for the Latino community. Never before has a Hispanic served as head of one of the four major Cabinet posts – secretary of State, Treasury, Defense and attorney general," said Janet Murguia, NCLR executive director and chief operating officer.
the GOP decided to burn the bridges with Hispanics now. I thought they'd already done that. They lost gays, blacks, women now, handicapped, veterans, virtually everybody who is sane...I mean what is left for them?
That Kiwi shoe polish on Tom CombOver's face must be going to his head.
though it is a more natural shade than the Kiwi shoe polish John Boehner uses on his face I must say.
republicans!
Is part of a group that is worse then the KKK!
The republican party. A group of insane mother fu@kers that need to have the shit kicked out of them.
La Raza beats up on non-whites?
If Mozart came out today would he be calling himself Moe-Z?
...Newt Gingrich, Michael Steele, and Pat Buchanan have in common? The American People saw fit to kick them out of office, and yet they still won't go away.
No wonder the tradmed/msm is in trouble. In large part they've done it to themselves by presenting this bullshit like it's real or represents a legitimate point of view. Giving this racist gasbag airtime does just that: bestows credibility and enables others like him.
Hey, Tomas Tancredo, if we take away your hood and hangmans noose what would you be? Like us...Or would you be just another, run of the mill Clayton Bigsby? You know, Dave Chapell's brilliant white supremist...He kill you! You ain't white you ain't right! Senior Tancredo (Sure, that's a Mexican name) you are loco....Si
Cisco
All of Tancredo's power exists in his magnificent hairpiece. Snatch that bad boy and he'll turn into Dennis Kucinich.
By the way, "All for the race. Nothing for the rest." is not the slogan for La Raza, never has been. Ergo, Tancredo is a liar or an idiot or both.
idiot.
I remember seeing a cartoon in a dirty mag of two disappointed KKKrs walking out of the movie Boys in the Hood, because it wasn't what they expected.
La Raza has incited violence against non-Mexicans in California and I am speaking from experience.
I have no problems with civil rights, affirmative action, and minority action groups.
But when you have an organization that has advocated for "the Race" and has promoted the idea of the return of Aztlan in the U.S to be returned to the indigenous people, that all non-Mexicans should leave, and that they have incited sub-groups to kidnap, rape, tattoo, and murder people solely for the color of their skin, then I have a problem.
Not that those two are even close, but like -minded people forming organizations. Isn't that guaranteed under the Constitution? And, as a descendant of American Indians, I want all of you out now. Go! Just go! We'll send you your stuff later. Shoo!
So take your hate somewhere else.
What party has that trait again? If I ever go to Davis, I won't mention your name.
When someone sticks gun to your head, kidnaps you, strips you naked, hog ties you, beats you non-stop in a field for 8 hours, puts a knife to your penis and threatens to cut if off, tattoos Lupe on your ass and forehead, and the only reason, THE ONLY F-KING REASON is because your skin is not the right color, then you won't talk crap so easily.
I was 16. I was not a racist. My only crime was my skin was white.
So, they have roving bands of baaaaad Mexicans in France now?
Cocaine is a hell of a drug indeed... Maybe you got a bad batch or something, because it seems whatever it is you were smoking then was clearly spiked...
If all these things were done to you...and wow, I've never heard of roving gangs forcibly tattooing people before and I grew up in Los Angeles during the zenith of Crips and Bloods...that's terrible, inexcusable and criminal.
HOWEVER...what makes you blame La Raza? Are you suggesting that this was an organizationally-sanctioned event? The logic of that is off. It's a little like saying I was raped by a guy who worked an the assembly line for GM so therefore the auto unions are filled with rapists.
Why do you blame LaRaza--instead of the criminals involved--for that?
As I said in the Open Thread last night, today's the 10th anniversary of an assault I experienced. All of the perpetrators were male. But it would be wrong and unhealthy for me to blame all men for it. Instead I blame the ones who are actually responsible.
The term "La Raza" is applied to many things. That doesn't make them all tied together or response for the actions of other groups with that name.
... that the last thing you would do is to revisit such experience when discussing anything on an internet forum full of people you do not know.
he is just another jackass who doesn't even know the difference between MEChA and La Raza.
details on an internet forum. The one place I do share some details is my blog, where I control the comments after all, and I write about issues of sexual violence in general, not just my own.
I think you're right, NCLR is a reputable civil rights organization, and MEChA is a student group. And obviously some of those students can dengenerate into violence.
Traumas like that are very difficult.
It's not nearly as violent, but last March was the 20th anniversary of my first baby's passing. He died one day after being born prematurely. It was a huge gaping hole in my heart for many years, but I feel that experience, as heart-wrenching as it was, has made me a better mother to my children now, because I'm cognizant of how important it is to cherish every moment.
such a painful blow. But I'm glad you were able to bring some positivity out of it by cherishing your kids!
I'm sorry about that.
There was a fraternity on the U.C. Davis Campus that had a drinking song they were singing before soccer games. They were mostly white, dumb, college boys. It was pretty racist.
La Raza organized demonstrations on the U.S. Davis Campus to protest the singing of the song. The police that handled the case told my mother (I was only 16) that the group that was doing these kidnappings were influenced by these protests.
Another victim, similar to my situation was killed when the guys did to her pretty much what they did to me but raped her and the drove over her in a 4-wheel drive. They caught the driver because they found her hair folicles in the wheel well. He was never tied to my incident but stated that he influnced by the La Raza protests and wanted to take it out on a white individual.
I hate to be so graphic. I know it is disgusting but it is the truth. The attitude of some people here just goes to prove that when someone's view of the world is challenged, they will go to all ends to defend it. I am not trying to do anything other than state the truth and offer my opinion and experience concerning La Raza.
I have read and learned a lot about them over the years and I do not agree with the radical position they take vis-a-vis the U.S. lands they consider theirs - occupied land - and that they have incited violence against non-indigenous people living there.
I said he was not "tied" to my case, not "tried." I really touch a nerve in your psyche, huh?
It hurts when your little, overly confident vision of the world springs a view leaks, huh?
Grow up.
Take your hate somewhere else. The less we have here, the better.
Here's what you said:
"... And, as a descendant of American Indians, I want all of you out now. Go! Just go! We'll send you your stuff later. Shoo!"
You are a racist. This is my last post to you. You deserve nothing better than to be ignored for being a very stupid person.
Grow up bud.
I do not "make shit up", certainly not something like this. I do not need your advice because you only purport to offer advice when it appears that you really only offer hate and venom to sooth your lack of self-esteem.
Again, you have no ground to accuse me of making stuff up. You play around with your insults, about what was tattooed on my body, and you think you've got it all figured out.
C&L, I asked you to delete this Post: Thu, 05/28/2009 - 18:37 — Tyler Durden
Explain to me why it hasn't been deleted. Is this the kind of post that C&L wants on it's web sites? Bully posts that attack individuals and their character to prove a point?
It is insulting, accusatory, offensive and serves no other purpose.
Look up "projection" while you are there, too. If what you say is a true story, why hang around here? What are you after? Another one participating in a battle of wits unarmed. As I always say, don't go to war without Ammo.
With all due respect Savanah This place was dripping with hate when I got here. Just saying.
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