Tom Coburn Misleads on VA, Repeats More of Frank Luntz's Talking Points on Health Care
By Heather Thursday Jun 11, 2009 12:00pm
As Think Progress and Steve Benen noted, Tom Coburn was on Washington Journal today scaring the public about the government boogie man taking over health care.
As did his colleague in the House Rep. Charles Boustany, Colburn seems to have memorized Frank Luntz's talking points and has them down pat.
Luntz’s 10 pointers in “The Language of Healthcare 2009”:
(1) Humanize your approach. Abandon and exile ALL references to the “healthcare system.” From now on, healthcare is about people. Before you speak, think of the three components of tone that matter most: Individualize. Personalize. Humanize.
(2) Acknowledge the “crisis” or suffer the consequences. If you say there is no healthcare crisis, you give your listener permission to ignore everything else you say. It is a credibility killer for most Americans. A better approach is to define the crisis in your terms. “If you’re one of the millions who can’t afford healthcare, it is a crisis.” Better yet, “If some bureaucrat puts himself between you and your doctor, denying you exactly what you need, that’s a crisis.” And the best: “If you have to wait weeks for tests and months for treatment, that’s a healthcare crisis.”
3) “Time” is the government healthcare killer. As Mick Jagger once sang, “Time is on Your Side.” Nothing else turns people against the government takeover of healthcare than the realistic expectation that it will result in delayed and potentially even denied treatment, procedures and/or medications. “Waiting to buy a car or even a house won’t kill you. But waiting for the healthcare you need – could. Delayed care is denied care.”
(4) The arguments against the Democrats’ healthcare plan must center around “politicians,” “bureaucrats,” and “Washington” … not the free market, tax incentives, or competition. Stop talking economic theory and start personalizing the impact of a government takeover of healthcare. They don’t want to hear that you’re opposed to government healthcare because it’s too expensive (any help from the government to lower costs will be embraced) or because it’s anti-competitive (they don’t know about or care about current limits to competition). But they are deathly afraid that a government takeover will lower their quality of care – so they are extremely receptive to the anti-Washington approach. It’s not an economic issue. It’s a bureaucratic issue.
(5) The healthcare denial horror stories from Canada & Co. do resonate, but you have to humanize them. You’ll notice we recommend the phrase “government takeover” rather than “government run” or “government controlled” It’s because too many politician say “we don’t want a government run healthcare system like Canada or Great Britain” without explaining those consequences. There is a better approach. “In countries with government run healthcare, politicians make YOUR healthcare decisions. THEY decide if you’ll get the procedure you need, or if you are disqualified because the treatment is too expensive or because you are too old. We can’t have that in America.”
(6) Healthcare quality = “getting the treatment you need, when you need it.” That is how Americans define quality, and so should you. Once again, focus on the importance of timeliness, but then add to it the specter of “denial.” Nothing will anger Americans more than the chance that they will be denied the healthcare they need for whatever reason. This is also important because it is an attribute of a government healthcare system that the Democrats CANNOT offer. So say it. “The plan put forward by the Democrats will deny people treatments they need and make them wait to get the treatments they are allowed to receive.”
(7) “One-size-does-NOT-fit-all.” The idea that a “committee of Washington bureaucrats” will establish the standard of care for all Americans and decide who gets what treatment based on how much it costs is anathema to Americans. Your approach? Call for the “protection of the personalized doctor-patient relationship.” It allows you to fight to protect and improve something good rather than only fighting to prevent something bad.
(8) WASTE, FRAUD, and ABUSE are your best targets for how to bring down costs. Make no mistake: the high cost of healthcare is still public enemy number one on this issue – and why so many Americans (including Republicans and conservatives) think the Democrats can handle healthcare better than the GOP. You can’t blame it on the lack of a private market; in case you missed it, capitalism isn’t exactly in vogue these days. But you can and should blame it on the waste, fraud, and abuse that is rampant in anything and everything the government controls.
(9) Americans will expect the government to look out for those who truly can’t afford healthcare. Here is the perfect sentence for addressing cost and the limited role for government that wins you allies rather than enemies: “A balanced, common sense approach that provides assistance to those who truly need it and keeps healthcare patient-centered rather than government-centered for everyone.”
(10) It’s not enough to just say what you’re against. You have to tell them what you’re for. It’s okay (and even necessary) for your campaign to center around why this healthcare plan is bad for America. But if you offer no vision for what’s better for America, you’ll be relegated to insignificance at best and labeled obstructionist at worst. What Americans are looking for in healthcare that your “solution” will provide is, in a word, more: “more access to more treatments and more doctors…with less interference from insurance companies and Washington politicians and special interests."






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capitalism/"free market" loves/needs deception to continue to grow. these people can't see beyond their own nose. healthCare reform is a economic necessity. CHINA the other world power will NOW begin a
universal healthCare plan. the republic is NOT going to be able to compete globally and we will become more vulnerable. this deception has to stop.
NYT Mag interviews the little schlub:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24...
and he trains others to do the same.
Have you ever seen such shameless disregard for the public welfare in your life?
At what point does a traitor become a traitor?
Thanks for posting these. It would be fun to keep a running tally of who is using which one(s). I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more of these.
Just looking at them though makes me question a supreme spaghetti being that would put someone like Luntz on our beautiful planet.
Really, print them out and keep them near by when you hear a republican pissing on health care reform. It's kinda like playing bingo. If one republican uses all of them in one interview, give yourself a prize. :)
.."Bullshit Bingo". And only three talking points have to be used before you can stand up and loudly proclaim, "BULLSHIT!"
And if they use them in the order they are listed above, you get to call Golden Bullshit!
do the "tally" but obama/biden/sebellius(sp) get a solid linguistic rebuttal.
the people who run these talk shows to find, print out and keep a list of these talking points, and point it out to their guests and the viewers when all they're doing is reciting the list.
I know that in reality, it's too much to ask the people who run these shows to do this if for no other reason than pure self-respect - to reaffirm that they aren't spending their lives as free PR reps for anyone, much less those who want poor people to die.
Every once in a while, though, I feel compelled to point out that it shouldn't be too much to ask.
Pretty damned lame that they had to hire someone to give them instructions on how to fight something. If they are so dedicated to fighting this, why can't they just make their case based on their own facts.
I wish more of the public knew about these talking points so they would understand it is just PR for their cause and has absolutely nothing to do with helping the people who put them in office, the people who most likely need health care reform the most.
Get hurt on the job and those fears are now reality, that is exactly what I'm going through, they know because they put those same obstacles into policy already.
They don't need more money in health care and I can agree with that. But the way to put less money into health care is to cut the insurance companies out!
I wonder how much tom makes helping out his buddies in the insurance companies?
Here is a list of elected people taking payoffs to cheat the American people and the amounts of bribes being taken. This is just from health care and insurance.
It is mind boggling to think how much these people are taking from others!
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $4,026,933)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $2,833,731)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $2,758,468)
And when you just go right to Big Insurance, the non-presidential candidates who got the biggest legalized bribes were the 7 senators who have been tasked with the job of killing single-payer:
Ben Nelson (DLC-NE- $1,196,799)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $1,184,113)
Joe Lieberman (DLC- CT- $1,036,302)
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $1,035,530)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY- $981,400)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $929,207)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA- $884,724)
We need to investigate and prosecute these criminals now. Severe jail terms are in order for these criminals!
About a 1/3 of what we spend on health care doesn't go to help anyone. Gee, where does it go? Oh yeah corporatee profits and shareholders. How much more could be saved if they could negotiate presccription prices? I haven't heard anybody talk about that yet.
Could we get a few Democrats to do on televsion and just say something like this:
"The Republicans are all using talking points scaring you with the term 'government healthcare', but this problem is what government is for - to take care of the BIG problems - hiring police and fireman, fixing roads, providing safe drinking water. OUR Government -the best in the world - can make it possible for EVERYONE to have affordable healthcare like the rest of the world already has."
I sure do wish they would speak out like that.
and also a jackass, IMHO.
two recent examples:
a coworker in need of a kidney transplant has to wait two months to test her family for a donor match, of course thats two more months of dialysis
another has headaches and has to wait a month for neurological tests. Hope it isn't a tumor!!
Democrats should ask this question of the voting public, When were the republicans right about anything?
rather then dumping your $1200 a month or whatever it is you pay for the health insurance pyramid scheme just put it in an account and make it 100% tax deductible.
besides hoping you don't need it before you've saved enough is that you'll be paying "full retail" prices for health care when the time does come. Virtually all health insurance companies and certainly medicare/medicaid reimburse doctors and hospitals at a fraction of this "retail" price. That's why many doctors are so pissy about the new public option - they now they'll be reimbursed at lower levels.
to loot you down to your underwear that's the biggest problem. Hell they'll probably be putting liens on your casket if you kick it and can't pay the outstanding bill next.
Kind of like a clearing house where they strip you of every last remaining asset you have before your trip to the other side.
Have you considered a lay-away plan? Sorry, couldn't resist ;)
I'm building my own I enjoy carpentry.
Even countries in the third world sees health care as a matter of national security. In Brazil if you are HIV positive, you get complete care and treatment from the government without spending a single penny. Republicans are anti Americans and traitors. Anyone denying health care for those who can't afford is is no better than Bin Laden.
We got to get a grip on Population growth.
Good luck with that.
They love the America that allows them to be bribed into the lowest tax bracket--that of the wealthiest people. Why doesn't someone point out that the single-payer option means only that the government will pay for health care. They will NOT provide it.
This comes down to one thing, greed. Just like Wall Street, there are too many people involved that have allowed greed to trump common sense and humanity.
greed, lust, gluttony . . . as if the only reason for life is to become a millionaire. The so called "comfortable and secure" life.
until you hear . . Knock Knock Knocking on heavens door.
What gets me once again is our "trusted" new media not only letting dishonest talking points go by without comment, but themselves are repeating the talking points as fact.
It is my private health insurance which is in fact time and time again coming between me and my doctor.
What these idiot talking heads and politicians (including some so called progressives) are talking bull to many of us who are reaching an age where we are dealing daily with the healthcare and insurance industry. I can only think they are intentionally lying to those who are not yet dealing with the consequences of this system.
Sounds great hand over your card, walk out of the Doc's without paying a dime, then get a letter saying . . We don't cover that".
There's the other catch.
Sorry to say it but I have zero clues as to how we are going to get out of this mess.
It's just NOT HAPPENING.
“In countries with government run healthcare, politicians make YOUR healthcare decisions. THEY decide if you’ll get the procedure you need, or if you are disqualified because the treatment is too expensive or because you are too old. We can’t have that in America.”
LIES!
LIES AND FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!
I've lived in Canada for 39 years and I've NEVER heard of politicians disqualifying people because they are too old or it's too expensive.
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS MAN!
THIS IS A BALDFACED LIE!
Walk into any clinic, any ER, any hospital in the US and the first question asked of you is *NOT* why you are there. It is DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE.
When a Dr. is ordering a diagnostic procedure for you, his counsel is *NOT* another medical opinion, not another doctor, but the claims dept at your Ins Co to determine if the procedure is covered.
Insurance Companies already dictate the practice of medicine more so then any bureaucrat or govt agency ever would.
When you pull the curtain back, it's all about the money. Tom Coburn is a ruse. He uses things like "Christian" morality a subterfuge to gain votes, hence to gain power and make money.
What scares the shit out of all the Corporate politicians in both parties is a change in the way DC works: meaning special (ie Corporate interests) won't funnel money to line their pockets.
If the people prove that we can get universal health care, than it will prove that people can fundamentally change the system, and that jeopardizes the cash cow corporate-political donor system.
That's what we need. Now. Lobby this, you...never mind.
Didn't this douchenozzle sterilize a woman without her permission when he was a doc? I wouldn't listen to his opinion on anything, much less healthcare.
The wingnuts think we are all stupid enough to think that the free market capitalism they are selling got us into the mess we are in now. We are supposed to be stupid enough for Frank Luntz to be able to scare us into thinking that even though the healthcare industry has failed us worse than the the financal system failed us (another piece of the pie) we will be begging for more of the same. Conservatives are idiots but I am not.
The answer is universal healthcare and to hell with the healthcare companies. They can figure out how to make money after we all get coverage as good as this worthless hypocrite, Tom Coburn has paid for by us.
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