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It appears fear mongering flame thrower Rep. Louie Gohmert has found himself a new target other than those "terror babies" he warned us about. This week it's "teh gays" that are going to literally destroy our military if they're allowed to come out with the possible repeal of DADT, or worse yet, allowing gay members of the military to serve openly might just mean the end of America's "existence as a great nation."

Right Wing Watch has more -- Gohmert: Without DADT, Military Stands to Lose Thousands and US Will Reach the “End of its Existence as a Great Nation”:

While debating the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX), of “terror-baby” fame, claimed that the policy’s repeal may doom the military and the nation as a whole. Gohmert blasted the recent Pentagon study, which showed that an overwhelming number of military service members do not oppose repealing DADT, and said that the military could potentially lose “many thousands, or tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands” if the policy is repealed. Gohmert uses no scientific evidence of his own to back up his claim that “hundreds of thousands” of troops could leave, even though the Pentagon’s own polling found that the vast majority of troops do not have problems serving alongside gays and lesbians, and 92 percent of those who believe they have already served alongside gays did not believe that their “units functioned poorly as a result.”

Gohmert went on to suggest that the House, which today voted to repeal Don’t Ask Don’t Tell 250-175, is opening up the floodgates to a disorganized and ineffective military. According to the Congressman, “when militaries throughout history of the greatest nations in the world have adopted the policy that it’s fine for homosexuality to be overt…they’re toward the end of its existence as a great nation.”

Here's the transcript of Gohmert's remarks from Right Wing Watch and as they noted, he's just channeling the remarks of The Family Research Council's Tony Perkins who just earned a spot on the SPLC's list of hate groups for their anti-gay rhetoric.

You want an accurate poll? Take one where military members can answer privately with no ability of the commanders to figure out who answered where. And then let’s find out how many thousands, or tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands we can lose with this activity. That’s important.

Now we were told Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is inconsistent with American values, I would submit the military is inconsistent with American values. It does not have freedom of speech, it does not have freedom of assembly, it does not have the freedom to express its love to those in the military the way you can out here because it’s an impediment to the military mission. You can’t do that. Can you imagine military members being able to tell their commander what they think of him using freedom of speech or assembling where they wish? It doesn’t work. This is one of those issues that is so personal to the military; we need to have an accurate poll.

And to my friend who said history would judge us poorly, I would submit if you look thoroughly at history, and I’m not saying its cause and effect, but when militaries throughout history of the greatest nations in the world have adopted the policy that it’s fine for homosexuality to be overt, you can keep it private it’s fine if you can’t that’s fine too, they’re toward the end of its existence as a great nation.

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bobby rubin jr.'s picture

I give it three out of five bats on the bat shit crazy meter. but for classic gohmert, you have to see the anderson cooper anchor-anthrax-baby sleeper shoe bombers in utero segment where he asks coop "Have you been online Anderson?" "I'm talkin' to retired FBI agents Anderson!" Shit was howls.

it's "Rep. Louie Gohmert Goes Berserk On Anderson ..."

No one in elected office is crazier than this wack-job. And these days that's really saying something.

Phylter's picture
My

Bat Shit Crazy Meter goes to eleven!

As Straight People are.

Everybody can Genocide.

It's not just a Hetero thing.


I'm a lot like Ricky Gervais and the Golden Globes: Why?

Paul's picture

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thebewilderness's picture

They seem to be just fine with gays in the military as long as no one knows they are gay. So clearly they don't think the gays are the problem so much as the bigoted bubbas like themselves.
I think it would be more efficient to get rid of the bigoted bubbas who don't mind serving with gays as long as they don't know they are gay.

Taarak's picture

It’s us against them, baby. And those thems are growing bigger and bigger by the minute. Pretty soon the us’s are going to be taken over. We have to protect ourselves. They are out to destroy us. Either you’re with us, or you’re one of them. If you are with us, you’re suspect too – because the only US that really matters is ME. Join ME, help ME, SERVE ME – or parish with them.

Don’t become ME, though; ‘cause if you do, you’ll compete with ME, then you’re one of THEM.

Paul's picture

LOL.

ron's picture

you can keep it private it’s fine if you can’t that’s fine too, they’re toward the end of its existence as a great nation

It wasn't homosexuality that brought the end of existence of great nations.

Nobody for President's picture

The worst kind, from one of its prime purveyors.

Joe H.'s picture

Seems that everytime we elect a President from Texas, we get ourselves into a war.

Fish's picture

We have idiots like these and no one calls them out for their BS. The rest of the world would force fools like this to retire.


Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.

Rochester's picture

If I remember correctly, this whack-a-doodle got over 90% of the votes in his district last month.

What does that say about 90% of the people where he lives in Texas?

Kind of depressing.

stewartm0205's picture

are using electronic voting in his district. Or nobody can read or write or watch any news other than Faux News.

Dradeeus's picture

If it was a politician, I'd be worried that I'd be the star of a documentary of the future, of what ignorant, bigoted people use to think. One day, this WILL be seen as just as sickening as those who argued for segregation.

taochiapet's picture

humans will return to using books for their intended purposes: as firewood.

Zeboz's picture

Louie Gohmert is a nucking fut.


Just once I'd like to be addressed as Sir. Without the "You are creating a scene"

Loonie's picture

Babies are pretty terrifying things.

Phylter's picture

Needn't bother Wikileaking this fruitcake, he does it himself.

So, there are gays already in the military and there isn't a problem, but repeal DADT and there WILL be. Interesting train of logic there... NOT!

US Will HAS Reached the End of its Existence as a Great Nation, as in 'stick a fork in it.' And that was about 30-40, maybe 50 years ago. Closet cases like Gomer here have just believed they own lies for so long...

Paul's picture

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deistpaladin2's picture

QUOTE:
“when militaries throughout history of the greatest nations in the world have adopted the policy that it’s fine for homosexuality to be overt…they’re toward the end of its existence as a great nation.”

I've heard this bullet point many times before with no sources or examples cited. Does anyone know even what the hell they're talking about? Ignoring the logical fallacy of assuming correlation = causation, are there even any examples of correlation?

I can think of one contra-example: The Roman Empire. It started as a thriving gay-friendly empire, then adopted Christianity and then collapsed.

BigD145's picture

Nobody knows what he's ever talking about.

Tom's picture

stopped existing as a great nation the day Ronald Reagan took office and we started this almost completed march down the road to fascist police state ruled over by Plutocrats and "upper" class oligarchs who think they're entitled to everything just because they can take it.

Phylter's picture

The Spartans seemed to do okay with gays in THEIR military...

Using THIS twerp's logic, women shouldn't be in the military either, cause they're just "asking for it" from the testosterone charged males who walk around 24/7 with permanent erections, ready to prey on any unsuspecting female soldier. I can't believe I'm typing this as an argument. I guess the level of discourse in the Congress is now at rock bottom, but I wouldn't be surprised if it went lower with "Loonie Louie".

Hey! That sounds like a great title for a song!

Andy K's picture

The Spartans were militantly heterosexual.

Big Boppa's picture
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“when militaries throughout history of the greatest nations in the world have adopted the policy that it’s fine for homosexuality to be overt…they’re toward the end of its existence as a great nation.”

Can't blame DADT for that. Our downward slide began when the corporate overlordss appointed Ronnie Raygun to the position of empty suited POTUS.


I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....

Big Boppa's picture

Didn't read the comments above by Miss Kitty and Tom before firing this one off.

Oh well....3 great minds....


I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....

miss_kitty's picture

I like it when people agree with me! And when they do it in writing...

:D

Joe H.'s picture

If you could only see how you are being played for the suckers that you are.

The only reason for repealing DADT is to eliminate any reason for someone to get out of being drafted.
The republicans cannot repeal DADT, as it puts them at odds with their bigot base. But they can let the democrats do it for them. With a new republican adminstration in 2013 and a weakened, if not wholly eviscerated democrat Senate, the warmongers will have learned from the mistakes of Bush II, and not go to war without conscription in force.

BigD145's picture

Gays have been in the military for decades even with DADT. It has survived. Heck, there's likely been more straight men raping women in the military than gays raping or being raped. Unit cohesion has not changed from the past.

ricchase's picture

I have been gay for many, many decades. I have NEVER heard of a gay man raping ANYONE! Aside from your typical psychopath that is. And they come in all shapes, sizes and colors.

jakflorida32169's picture

Gays don't recruit. We're an all-volunteer outfit.


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

ricchase's picture

Tell ya a little secret about those there backwards Texans......They aren't so against gay people after a couple of beers, in fact they get downright 'friendly, heh, heh.

it will only be because it abandoned principles of civilization and became a rouge state on the world stage and a despotic and tyrannical police state on the home front. If America is not just, does not respect human rights, places property, wealth and power above human needs and human rights, it is nothing. It is less than nothing. Letting gays enjoy equal rights is only going to strengthen the naiton.

Edwin's picture

The more these whack jobs cry "terror" and "terrorism" the more they lose their lustre. Keep it up Gomer.


far left loon >.<

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

SterilizetheNeoCons's picture

I read that Louie came out of the closet today.


Lew
Fighting the Christian American Taliban daily.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

character first's picture

What would Louie Gohmert know about the military. He is a Vietnam era draft dodger.

Paul's picture

self-hating closeted gay, too. He should just admit it, come out of the closet and be a happier person.

jakflorida32169's picture

He can stay in the damned closet and lock the door. Don't we have enough problems that we need him wished on us?


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

JIR's picture

Who can argue that Rome, Greece, the Ottomans, the Mayans, the Sumerians, the Mongols, the Incas and other great civilizations collapsed after they allowed gays in their military? Sounds believable to me. But then again, I believe the world is 6000 years old and that man co-existed with dinosaurs.

Kreskin's picture

Thank you Texan's for giving us another winner . Sheeeesh . No offense Yaz , there are exceptions of course .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

All my paralegal instructors were lawyers, except for one who was a family law judge, and they always to a person referred to the Vernon Statutes as, "From those 'geniuses' in Austin."

I suppose that's why this guy always cracked me up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-5gsC-Jro8&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7HOr9PHwBo


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Dicks70's picture

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you
were a member of Congress...but then, I repeat
myself"................Mark Twain

pinkobait's picture

I am soooooooooooo sick of these stupid bastards.

"Twenty-five countries allowed military service by openly gay people as of June 2009.

-- They are: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Uruguay."

It's time the US joined them and stopped being influenced and obstructed by rat bag bigoted morons.


"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "

-Jack Handy

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

LazyCosmos's picture

stupid and an asshole.

Evidently, according to the beliefs of these opponents, our country and our troops are being endangered by not only allowing but seeking the assistance of those countries that allow gays and lesbians to serve openly. They must immediately call for the withdrawal of those countries with troops in Afghanistan. They can start with the British.

Harry R. Sohl's picture

Girl, teh gays can't even make terror babies.

JohnnyBravo's picture

just come out and say it. You're a bigot!


NOBODY 2012

Cthulhu's picture

And they didn't even know it. Single handed, they can destroy the institute of marriage, overwhelm the military might of the United States, simply by loving someone of the same sex.

Such Power!


"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard

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