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From Keith's post over at Daily KOS--Special Comment: Not Health, Not Care, Not Reform:

There could not be a finer line between the words compromise and compromised and tonight, with the greatest possible reluctance, I believe I have to go on the air and state my opinion that the Senate bill in its current form has clearly crossed that line and, as currently constituted, cannot be passed.

Seems he's as unhappy about the recent developments with this health care bill as many of us are.

Finally, as promised, a Special Comment on the latest version of H-R 35-90, the Senate Health Care Reform bill.

To again quote Churchill after Munich, as I did six nights ago on this program:

"I will begin by saying the most unpopular and most unwelcome thing: that we have sustained a total and unmitigated defeat, without a war."

Last night on this program Howard Dean said that with the appeasement of Mr. Lieberman of Connecticut by the abandonment of the Medicare Buy-in, he could no longer support H-R 35-90.

Dr. Dean's argument is informed, cogent, heart breaking, and unanswerable.

Seeking the least common denominator, Senator Reid has found it, especially the "least" part.

This is not health, this is not care, this is certainly not reform.

I bless the Sherrod Browns and Ron Wydens and Jay Rockefellers and Sheldon Whitehouses and Anthony Weiners and all the others who have fought for real reform and I bleed for the pain inflicted upon them and their hopes. They have done their jobs and served their nation.

But through circumstances beyond their control, they are now seeking to reanimate a corpse killed by the Republicans, and by a political game played in the Senate and in the White House by men and women who have now proved themselves poorly equipped for the fight.

The "men" of the current moment, have lost to the "mice" of history. They must now not make the defeat worse by passing a hollow shell of a bill just for the sake of a big-stage signing ceremony. This bill, slowly bled to death by the political equivalent of the leeches that were once thought state-of-the-art-medicine, is now little more than a series of microscopically minor tweaks of a system which is the real-life, here-and-now version, of the malarkey of the Town Hallers. The American Insurance Cartel is the Death Panel, and this Senate bill does nothing to destroy it. Nor even to satiate it.

It merely decrees that our underprivileged, our sick, our elderly, our middle class, can be fed into it, as human sacrifices to the great maw of corporate voraciousness, at a profit per victim of 10 cents on the dollar instead of the current 20.

Even before the support columns of reform were knocked down, one by one, with the kind of passive defense that would embarrass a touch-football player - single-payer, the public option, the Medicare Buy-In - before they vanished, the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the part of this bill that would require you to buy insurance unless you could prove you could not afford it, would cost a family of four with a household income of 54-thousand dollars a year, 17 percent of that income. Nine thousand dollars a year. Just for the insurance!

That was with a public option. That was with some kind of check on the insurance companies. That was before -- as Howard Dean pointed out -- the revelation that the cartel will still be able to charge older people more than others; will -- at the least -- now be able to charge much more, maybe 50 percent more, for people with pre-existing conditions -- pre-existing conditions; you know, like being alive.

You have just agreed to purchase a product. If you do not, you will be breaking the law and subject to a fine. You have no control over how much you will pay for the product. The government will have virtually no control over how much the company will charge for the product. The product is designed like the Monty Python sketch about the insurance company's "Never-Pay" policy ... "which, you know, if you never claim -- is very worthwhile. But you had to claim, and, well, there it is."

And who do we have to blame for this? There are enough villains to go around, men and women who, in a just world, would be the next to get sick and have to sell their homes or their memories or their futures -- just to keep themselves alive, just to keep their children alive, against the implacable enemy of American society, the insurance cartel.

Mr. Grassley of Iowa has lied, and fomented panic and fear.

Mr. DeMint of South Carolina has forgotten he represents people, and not just a political party.

Mr. Baucus of Montana has operated as a virtual agent for the industry he is charged with regulating.

Mr. Nelson of Nebraska has not only derailed reform, he has tried to exploit it to overturn a Supreme Court decision that, in this context, is frankly none of his goddamned business.

They say they have done what they have done for the most important, the most fiscally prudent, the most gloriously phrased, the most inescapable of reasons.

But mostly they have done it for the money. Lots and lots of money from the insurance companies and the pharmacological companies and the other health care companies who have slowly taken this country over.

Which brings us to Mr. Lieberman of Connecticut, the one man at the center of this farcical perversion of what a government is supposed to be.

Out of pique, out of revenge, out of betrayal of his earlier wiser saner self, he has sold untold hundreds of thousands of us into pain and fear and privation and slavery -- for money. He has been bought and sold by the insurance lobby. He has become a Senatorial prostitute.

And sadly, the President has not provided the leadership his office demands.

He has badly misjudged the country's mood at all ends of the spectrum.

There is no middle to coalesce here, Sir.

There are only the uninformed, the bought-off, and the vast suffering majority for whom the urgency of now is a call from a collection agency or a threat of rescission of policy or a warning of expiration of services.

Sir, your hands-off approach, while nobly intended and perhaps yet some day applicable to the reality of an improved version of our nation, enabled the national humiliation that was the Town Halls and the insufferable Neanderthalian stupidity of Congressman Wilson and the street-walking of Mr. Lieberman.

Instead of continuing this snipe-hunt for the endangered and possibly extinct creature "bipartisanship," you need to push the Republicans around or cut them out or both. You need to threaten Democrats like Baucus and the others with the ends of their careers in the party. Instead, those Democrats have threatened you, and the Republicans have pushed you and cut you out.

Mr. President, the line between "compromise" and "compromised" is an incredibly fine one.

Any reform bill enrages the right, and provides it with the war cry around which it will rally its mindless legions in the midterms and in '12. But this Republican knee-jerk inflexibility provides an incredible opportunity to you, Sir, and an incredible license.

On April 6th 2003 I was approached by two drunken young men at a baseball game. One of them started to ask for an autograph. The other stopped him by shouting "Screw him, he's a liberal."

This program had been on the air for three weeks. It had to that point consisted entirely of brief introductions to correspondents in Iraq or to military analysts. There had been no criticism, no political analysis, no commentary. I had not covered news full-time for more than four years. I could not fathom on what factual basis, I was being called a "liberal," let alone being sworn at for being such.

Only later did it dawn on me that it didn't matter why, and it didn't matter that they were doing it - it only mattered that if I was going to be mindlessly criticized for anything, the reaction would be identical whether I did nothing that engendered it, or stood for something that engendered it.

Mr. President, they are calling you a socialist, a communist, a Marxist. You could be further to the right than Reagan - and this health care bill (as Howard Dean put it here last night, this bailout for the insurance industry) sure invites the comparison. And they will still call you names.

Sir, if they are going to call you a socialist no matter what you do, you have been given full unfettered freedom to do what you know is just. The bill may be the ultimate political manifesto, or it may be the most delicate of compromises. The firestorm will be the same. So why not give the haters, as the cliché goes, something to cry about.

But concomitant with that is the reaction from Democrats and Independents.

You have riven them, Sir. Any bill will engender criticism but this bill costs you the left -- and anybody who now has to pony up 17 percent of his family's income to buy this equivalent of Medical Mobster Protection Money.

Some speaking for you, Sir, have called the public option a fetish. They may be right. But to stay with this uncomfortable language, this bill is less fetish, more bondage.

Nothing short of your re-election and the re-election of dozens of Democrats in the house and senate, hinges in large part on this bill. Make it palatable or make it go away or make yourself ready -- not merely for a horrifying campaign in 2012 -- but for the distinct possibility also of a primary challenge.

Befitting the season, Sir, these are not the shadows of the things that will be, but the shadows of the things that may be.

But at this point, Mr. President, only you can make certain of that.

There is only one redemption possible. The mandate in this bill under which we are required to buy insurance must be stripped out. The bill now is little more than a legally mandated delivery of the middle class (and those whose dreams of joining it slip ever further away) into a kind of Chicago stockyards of insurance. Make enough money to take care of yourself and your family and you must buy insurance - on the insurers terms - or face a fine.

This provision must go. It is, above all else, immoral and a betrayal of the people who elected you, Sir.

You must now announce that you will veto any bill lacking an option or buy-in, but containing a mandate.

And Senator Reid, put the public option back in, or the Medicare Buy-In, or both. Or single-payer.

Let Lieberman and Ben Nelson and Baucus and the Republicans vote their lack-of-conscience and preclude 60 "ayes." Let them commit political suicide instead of you.

Let Mr. Lieberman kill the bill -- then turn to his Republican friends only to find out they hate him more than the Democrats do. Let him stagger off the public stage, to go work … for the insurance industry.

As if he is not doing that now.

Then, Mr. Reid, take every worthwhile provision of health care reform you legally can, and pass it via reconciliation, when ever and how ever you can -- and by the way, a Medicare Buy-In can be legally passed via reconciliation.

The Senate bill with the mandate must be defeated, if not in the Senate, then in the House.

Health care reform that benefits the industry at the cost of the people is intolerable and there are no moral constructs in which it can be supported.

And if still the bill and this heinous mandate become law there is yet further reaction required.

I call on all those whose conscience urges them to fight, to use the only weapon that will be left to us if this bill becomes law.

We must not buy federally mandated insurance if this cheesy counterfeit of reform is all we can buy.

No single payer? No sale.

No public option? No sale.

No Medicare buy-in? No sale.

I am one of the self-insured, albeit by choice.

And I hereby pledge that I will not buy this perversion of health care reform.

Pass this at your peril, Senators, and sign it at yours, Mr. President.

I will not buy this insurance.

Brand me a lawbreaker if you choose.

Fine me if you will.

Jail me if you must.

But if the Medicare Buy-In goes, but the Mandate stays, the people who fought so hard and so sincerely to bring sanity to this system must kill this mutated version of their dream, because those elected by us to act for us have forgotten what must be the golden rule of health care reform.

It is the same one to which physicians are bound, by oath:

First… do no harm.

Good night, and good luck.

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I'm tired of hearing the "the government can make you buy auto insurance" nonsense.

I Do NOT have to buy auto insurance!! If I don't drive, if I choose to take a bus, a cab, walk, ride my bike, I don't have to buy insurance.

If I don't have a mortgage, I don't have to buy insurance.

If I live in the United States, though, this bill will force me to buy insurance, at God knows how much, AS A CONDITION OF BEING A CITIZEN!!! And they call this Taxation WITH Representation.

That's absurd. Keith, I couldn't agree with you more. I thought I voted for leadership last November.


"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

try a better insurance analogy.

if you have teeth, you get dental insurance, cause you aint covered

if you have eyes, you need insurance for your glasses

if you drive, you get penalized for not having insurance

your doctor needs insurance to practice

a lawyer needs insurance to practice

you need insurance to run your business

you also have to insure employees in some cases

even if the fed doesn't yet force you to buy insurance, the states do.

thems the breaks.


Some stuff you can't make up!

ra-ra-raw's picture

for your rectum. But, according to your logic that will be next.
"hey, she's got a beating heart and bowels, and an expired sticker on her rump. She might flood the whole floor. Book 'er, Drainno"
What about preschool insurance? "Why, she bit my little Johnny, I hope she is covered, otherwise Sheriff Joe is on his way and it's juvi tent city for you."
Why do you not need an insurance sticker on your house before the fire department puts out a fire? Because there is still some sane people with influence.
When those people are gone you will need Internet rectum insurance,
"why that troll flamed us for hours and wasted out time, I hope he is covered."
The thinking that if there is a need, then someone should be legally entitled to make a profit should be covered by disability insurance, cause that thinking is mentally ill.

(replying to CoIntelPro)

Excelsior's picture

I wear glasses and do not have insurance. Why? I go to a clinic every three years and get seen by an eye doctor. I go to the neighborhood opthalmologist and get my glasses there. No need to pay vampires any blood money.

I have teeth. When I need a dentist, I go to the same clinic and get seen by a dentist. Without any insurance.

Yes, if you drive without insurance, you get fined. BUT I DON'T DRIVE. That's the point being made. You don't HAVE to buy insurance for any of these things IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO.

But now we'll be FORCED to pay for insurance, because the law says anyone who is a citizen AND ALIVE must buy these shitty, poisonous and life-threatening products. Keith is right - that's SLAVERY.

No thank you. YOU may be happy as a slave, I'M NOT.


There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits

Abbybwood's picture

Time to organize a boycott of these parasites!!!

Where do I sign up?


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Paul's picture

Driving is a privilege, not a right. Privileges can be subject to terms and conditions, while rights are...rights. Access to healthcare is the same as a basic Human Right, because it is necessary for continuation of life. In its turn, the right to continue living, without life being interrupted due to frivolous or nefarious causes is a Human Right, not a privilege to be exercised subject to government imposed terms and conditions. Further, all people have, as implied in the Declaration, The
Constitution, basic morality and principles of justice, the Right to live reasonably free of privation, need and fear. Taken together, the mandate attempts to turn a right into a privilege, creates privation, need and fear, and when it's all said and done, gives nothing in return. This is fundamentally unjust, because it is a measure that attempts to use the force of law to turn people into victims. It is as wrong as slavery and as wrong as laws that single people out for unjust treatment, like for example, anti-gay measures.

Even more, it is probably unConstitutional, because it makes a law requiring that individuals pay the equivalent of taxes and tribute to private enterprises. The conditions that must be satisfied just to pay taxes to the government are Constitutionally established; there is nothing in the Constitution that allows for taxes to be paid to non-government entities. Congress is overstepping its authority in trying to create such a situation. Indeed, if money is to flow by government mandate or decree to private enterprise, the only correct conduit for that cash flow is from the government to the enterprise and directly from individuals. And, that kind of brings us full circle to single payer. It's the only way out of the morass and the only thing that is going to work. If the government were making the payments, it would quickly become obvious to all except the most corrupt that parasitical and criminal middlemen have no rightful place in the process.

Just my few cents' worth.

Geazer's picture

•I have teeth. I am not required by law to have dental insurance.
•I wear glasses. I am not required by law to have optical insurance.
•I do drive, and the state requires that I (a) pass a test, and (b) buy insurance. And I'm fine with that. There is NO provision that says YOU MUST BUY insurance, whether you drive or not. If your state requires you to buy auto insurance as a condition of living there, please let me know what state it is, so that I don't accidentally move there.

•All the crap that we get from "con"servatives about the "Death Tax" has been turned on its head by this bill. This is a "Birth Tax" - welcome to the world, son, and the United States of America. Now, turn over $10,000 to Big Insurance, and oh, yes, be prepared do that every year for the rest of your life. And did I mention, "Welcome To America"?

•This bill must die.


"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man

Paul's picture

This bill must die.

Geraldo's picture

This bill must die.
Must die, must die, this bill must die.
For the sake of the nation, this bill must die.
Must die, must die, this bill must, bill must, bill must die.

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MollyNYC's picture

Seriously, who is going to buy insurance on these terms, no matter what the law says? Olbermann isn't exactly the only one who'll refuse.

Most people don't buy insurance because they just plain flat-out can't afford it.

They're not going to magically be able to afford it because some greasy-palmed elected nitwits decide that the solution to people not having health insurance is to force them to buy it.

This is arguably the stupidest freaking bill I've ever seen. Most corruption doesn't register that much because for most voters, money that come from the US Treasury to, say, Halliburton, is like Monopoly money--not quite real. This is essentially an enormous (and largely regressive) tax that goes directly to the insurance industry. In a recession too.

People will feel every last dime of it personally.

If this passes, do you expect any supporters to retain their seats? Even in red states?

Eala Dubh's picture

...after being made the experiment butt of the Community Charge in 1988 (ie. the Poll Tax, which in a very literal sense is pretty much what's been floated in this bill); adamantly refuse to pay en masse and grind the whole system to a halt. There's no way they can possibly prosecute you ALL.

BaScOmBe's picture

that is what insurance is supposed to do.
the original purpose of insurance (mutual insurance) was to distribute total cost over a large group so as to keep the cost of whatever is insured manageable.

some insurance is mandated, but the purpose is consistent, whether mandatory or not. stock-based companies do not follow the 'mutual' model and are only in it for profit. that is what is most objectionable AFTER the fact that OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN PURCHASED - DLC, DSCC, DSCC and or course the TOMDELAY party.


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DaveZ's picture

I don't know if I would want the kind of legacy that is so short-term in design. If he signs this bill it is the "Mission Accomplished" moment of his presidency. He will have done it for the right to say he reformed health-care, even though it will be a lie in every sense of the word.

truth2power's picture

We thought Obama was an intelligent person. This is just plain DUMB!

THANK YOU, KEITH, FOR YOUR BEST ONE YET!!!

ttheobald's picture

because you're assuming that being alive is somehow an option.
All living humans will eventually require healthcare. And I hope you'll forgive me for pointing this out, but I don't want your sick self waltzing into an emergency room in need of a $500,000 operation that you just can't afford. Because that cost will end up on my head, and everyone else's, through the hospital's fee structure applying to *my* fees and insurance premiums.

All because you didn't feel you needed insurance, or you couldn't afford it.

Typical freeloading conservative thinking. "Don't make me pay for the roads, the schools, the government buildings, but why is everything not laid out for me to use?!?"

With guaranteed insurance, your ailing self will get treated early, before it becomes a flaming problem that costs half a million to fix.

Your argument only shows your ignorance, dude. Math is on the side of proper healthcare reform. You can deny it all you want, the numbers clearly show that the way the USA operates is broken, and every other developed nation with a universal health care system operates with a healthier citizenry at lower per-capita cost than we pay.

Go back to drinking your Glenn Beck-flavored kool-aid, if you choose. It won't change the numbers, and it certainly won't make you look any smarter.

T

Geazer's picture

that you go back and re-read what I wrote.


"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Health care should not be paid by for-profit insurance companies, there is a fundamental conflict of interest. The less health care, the greater the profit.

All of the advanced countries have universal systems, they all recognize the conflict of interest in for-profit payment and NONE of them allow it.

IT IS BARBARIC and we are set to make it mandatory.

In my book, that clearly and decisively eliminates us from the list of advanced countries.

---

L Randall Ray - A good series on health care from an economist, the class of whom are no longer noted for their relation to the social sciences.

Part 1 here The Elephant in the Room

Part 2 here We Need Less Health Insurance, Not More

Part 3 here The Financialization of Health and Everything Else in the Universe


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Paul's picture

Agreed. They have no rightful place in the process. That's just one of the reasons why I like HR-676.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

The only industrialized nation in the world without government paid and/or subsidized not for profit universal coverage. PERIOD.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Liberal AND Proud's picture

This healthcare debacle is only a simple of the real problem.

Until this country moves to publicly financed election campaigns, money will continue to rule the day.

This SCOTUS decision (Buckley v. Valeo, 424 U.S. 1 (1976) is what opened Pandora's Box and led us to where we are today.


"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."

Paul's picture

and the issue is at the root of most of our problems.

Geazer's picture

Problem is, how do we get that? The first priority of any elected official is to get re-elected.


"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man

tweakerbelle's picture

But I thought he was too soft on Obama. The President has been incredibly weak and flat footed on this whole deal.

The bill, as it stands, must be defeated.

Obama needs to grow a spine. And a conscience.


It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
-George Carlin

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

just like Hill and Bill
his solution was always corporate. the PO crap was just for the campaign. he detailed position always stressed the corporate insurance, PO or not.


Some stuff you can't make up!

The President has been incredibly weak and flat footed on this whole deal.

On the contrary; The president got the bill he wanted all along.

truth2power's picture

Lack of conscience is a symptom of an "ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER," & such is imbedded in a person early in life. (So are SPINES!) It's too late for Obama. We're screwed!

Coffee Milk Toast Jam's picture

These mandates are nothing more than an extension of the "carceral" (to quote Henry Giroux) political climate in this country. We throw homeless people into jail or out on the streets. Now, why not the uninsured?

See Giroux's latest article in truthout.org

akovia's picture

needs to grow a pair. I, also, will risk the full power of law if the garbage pile is passed. I will NOT buy in.


We have surrendered our passion for freedom to the acquisition of stuff. We cannot even mount a decent opposition to wars that are destroying what little we have left in our treasury or to resist the oligarchy that has taken over our electoral process.

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

you will find an awful lot of money in the (D) column


Some stuff you can't make up!

Paul's picture

that the real problem is that the leadership is in bed with the bad guys. Spinelessness is just cover for their own corruption and misbegotten allegiances. You can hide a lot of open-hearted and eager complicity behind cover of gutlessness, ineptness and weakness. These assholes know what they're doing and why they are doing it. there cover personas is designed to do one thing: hide their malice.


Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!

Get your Donations ready for Harry Reid's primary opponent kids! Also... is it too early to start talking about a presidential primary in 2012?

Thoughts?

We are mandated to buy insurance in Massachusetts. I spent two years getting fined before I caved in. It's cheaper for me now to spend 200 a month on a do nothing insurance than the 300 a month in fines or whatever it is. I've used it once. I suppose it will probably do something if god forbid I have a bad accident, maybe just put me in the poor house instead of my entire family, but otherwise it's useless.

neamhni's picture

If you don't pay the fine, what happens? Do they garnish your wages?

I'm very curious, since we're on our way to nationally mandated insurance like you already have and I'm not planning to pay it. Or the fines.

Abbybwood's picture

For ANY progressive candidate who is running against anyone who votes for this despotic legislation.

The Patriot Act tore apart The Bill of Rights.

The Obama/Emanuel/DLC/AHIP Health Insurance Coup d' Etat will tear away at what is left of our treasures.

Shame on Obama. Shame on the Democratic Party. Shame on the United States of America. And shame on the American People for not being in the streets of this country right now to let all these "representatives" know how very dissatisfied we are with them.


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

crcombine's picture

Before I heard KO, I was with friends at a local Indianapolis bar and I said essentially the same thing: if I am forced to buy from those leeches, I will decline--fine me, jail me whatever, I will not go quietly. This is no less than tyranny.


"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson

neamhni's picture
yep

Hear hear.

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

I won't buy the mandated robber baron crap insurance.

I'll use the money for arms.

Paul's picture

3 squares a day, clean sheets twice a week. I'm ready to become a burden on society, since playing by the rules all my life has apparently been pointless.

What are they going to do , jail 30-or-so-million people?

neamhni's picture

won't send people to jail- only garnish their wages. Which means we'll either have to make money under the table or become so poor that we turn out homeless and then maybe we'll get to jail? Periodically?

SteveK's picture

"Let them eat cake" AND let that cake be covered with Red "R's", Blue Dog "D's, and Yellow "L's" (not sure if the "L" is for lobbyists or cowardly liberals).

Let middle America continue it's twenty year decline.

Then let the Republicans... the Blue Dogs... Big Business... and the cowards try to explain to the American people why the United States of America became a third world nation.

curtilingus's picture
:p

We finally have a ticking time bomb scenario. Over 100,000 Americans will lose their lives if the terrorist proposal by our stupid leaders goes through.

Who will save us?

Roughly paraphrasing:

As we learned in 1994, when the driving force behind the reform is maintaining the "for profit" health insurance system, this is what the legislation ends up looking like.


Corruption favors the wealthy.

Can't even begin to express just how disheartened, frustrated, disappointed, and furious I am with the entire so-called healthcare reform. In fact, it's not reform, so I think it's time we re-named it, like how about "the big insurance company give-away, screw the consumer" bill. I actually wasn't opposed to mandates because we need a large pool of people to keep the cost down. However, I am opposed to mandates when the only option is for consumers to buy from for-profit insurance companies. I also thought the extension of Medicare was an outstanding idea. But in the end, we really got nothing of what we wanted, let alone protection from the predatory practices of the insurance companies, who can still charge high premium to whoever they want and for whatever reason.

Loosely Twisted's picture

Actually nice catchy phrase for those who need one.

Slavery Bill


Education is that which remains when everything learned in school has been forgotten. - Albert Einstein

that if they actually pass this, some nutcase, or somebody who is pissed and stressed beyond the cracking point or some group of vigilantes who have finally had enough are going to end up buring the insurance companies down to the ground. It's going to end up in violence angainst assets and probably against insurance company higher-ups. It almost seems inevitable. It's like John F.Kennedy said, when you deny people the oporrtunity for peaceful change, you make violence inevitable. This is the kind of thing he was talking about.

Just think now you are mandated to SUPPORT a Insurance Industry to gauranteed a Profit.

Who says Socialism is Dead I mean at least, for the Socialized Corporations.

Remember the average American is now a bottom line profit indicator.

SOLD OUT AGAIN.

Paul's picture

I have only one point of contention with everything he said, and it relates to his deference to Mr.Obama. I don't think this bill is a result of Obama's ineptness at getting things done. I think it is the result of Obama getting 100% of exactly what he wanted. Exactly what he wanted.

The trend is clear at this point: whenever the needs of the People come into competition with the desires of corporate America, and whenever basic Constitutional protections come into competition with the cause of an ever-consolidating totalitarian police state or the interests of would-be fascists, the People and the Constitution always come in dead lastplace, behind all other considerations. They are paid only that minimal amount of lip-service required to maintain a pretense that he and his administration actually give a damn. But, always, the lip service is only empty words. Everytime.

He is corporately owned and operated, and as is indicated by his consistent actions, he shows little-to-zero regard for the Constitution, and the things the Constitution created and protects. He is not inept, naive, weak or ill-advised.

You can always tell what people really believe and what they really want by the things that they consitently do and the decisions they consistently make. There words mean nothing when compared to their deeds. If there is no congruance between the two, the non-congruance tells you all that really matters about the speaker of the words. Look at who he has chosen to fill his cabinet and who are his advisers; they are all CFR'ers, Bildebergers and trilateralists. That speaks volumes. Look at what he has done and what he has supported with action. Absent the odd token act that only impacts things on a trivial level, nothing he has done or supports works for or on behalf of the people who elected him.

Mr.Obama is not serving us or our interests, and if his track recors thus far is any indication, he has no intention of doing so.

LeftandLeft's picture

And thank you yet again Keith...people like you are all we can rely on right now.

Patriot Actor's picture

it is Money Insurance...

Reformed it into an even greater fucking mess than it was before!

A mess capable of sucking out more of a family's equity, so that its members will have less to liquidate when a serious illness strikes, and the health insurance company screws them over.

Less equity, in our reformed American health care system, means even quicker, surer death.

Last January I wouldn't have believed any greater perversion of our health care system was possible.

StillSickOfIt's picture

PORK, PORK PORK!

The heath insurance industry only makes 30% profit and that's really not enough. They need more so they can pay their employees less and their executives more.

There has never been a level of pork that even comes close to this. We are talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, every year, for the rest of time.

Don't confuse this with defense bills that grant pork for a while and then go away. This is something that will be with us forever.

The worst thing is that THIS SHIT will be the only "reform" that we have for decades, if ever. This is an assault on the poor and the middle class. This is WAR, nothing less.

I weep for Amerika. I give up on us if this is the best we can do.

Count Typo's picture

Maybe it's not too late to ask the British to come back? If only to restore democracy and the rule of Law.

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