Scarborough and Senor Think Running Moderates Out is Fantastic for the Republican Party
From Meet the Press, Joe Scarborough and Dan Senor think it's just fantastic that the GOP is running their "moderates" out of the party. Great game plan guys. Keep this up and maybe the GOP can get down to 15% instead of 20% of Americans that want to identify themselves as Republicans.
GREGORY: All right. Let--I've got about a minute left here. I want to talk politics here. Joe Scarborough, there seems to be, within the Republican Party, a litmus test going on. You had Sarah Palin on Facebook endorsing the conservative independent candidate in New York for that congressional seat in the 23rd district.
SCARBOROUGH: Mm-hmm.
GREGORY: Is this what's going on inside the Republican Party, this sort of run to see who can be the most conservative as a means of retaking power in 2010?
SCARBOROUGH: Well, it, it depends. How could any Republican, how could--let me strike that. How could any conservative be against the person that the Republican establishment in D.C. is for if they're conservatives? This woman, this Republican candidate, is for card check. She was for the Obama stimulus package. She has voted for taxes. I mean, she's been one of David Paterson's best allies. Why would a conservative support that Republican? This is, this is just one more example of how the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., is so disconnected from conservatives.
SENOR: You're seeing a revolt all over the place. In Joe's state, in Florida...
SCARBOROUGH: And, and I'm saying...
SENOR: ...Marco Rubio, who's running against Charlie Crist for the U.S. Senate...
SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.
GREGORY: Right.
SENOR: ...the Republican establishment in Washington rallied behind Charlie Crist because he was supposed to deliver the general election. Suddenly the polls in the Republican primary are closing, all the Republican primary conservative support is getting behind Marco Rubio, who's the start-up candidate.
SCARBOROUGH: And by the way, people love...
MAYER: This can't be good for the Republicans that have their own base being fractured, is it?
SCARBOROUGH: No. It's great for the Republican Party because...
SENOR: It's fantastic for the Republican Party.
SCARBOROUGH: ...when I, when I ran in 1994, the Republican Party on the state, national and local level tried to run against me a moderate Republican. And I'm not talking, I'm not talking abortion or gay marriage, I'm talking taxes and spending, small government. That's great to reinvigorate the base.
GREGORY: All right. And the president's out there for two big governor's races in New Jersey and Virginia this week, which a lot of people will see as some kind of referendum. We're going to leave it there.
Shallow, ignorant, republican.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
Now we can see how the teabaggers and such think the way they do. The repub party only accepts people who will keep quiet and not disagree whatsoever with the party line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnKUiybiFo
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
please continue that line of reasoning as long as you possibly can!
tolerates no dissent. For any reason.
Just ask Lori Klausutis - oops!
She's unavailable for comment.
Only on a "Fair and Balanced" network would they kvetch about moderates in their ranks.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
because Crist is seen as an ineffective governor (much like Arnie) in a state whose economy has tanked. He will get the conservative Cuban Dade County vote and probably a lot of other FL Hispanics who don't see Crist as being able to have accomplished much. The FL "Thug party will do their best to make him as "white" as possible in the coming months to secure the Bubba vote from Orlando northward.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
This election in Northern New York state is very very interesting and says everything about the state of the Republican party.
First, Nate Silver over at his blog broke down the numbers for, Scozzafava, the Republican candidate that the many national Republicans, including Scarborough are against. And she is conservative for NY state.
"Scozzafava's score puts her in the 58th percentile of her party, which makes her slightly more conservative than the average Republican legislator in Albany, so she's a conservative in her [state] party."
So not sure what exactly Scarborough is talking about. Talking out of his ass as usual I guess.
See Nate's numerical analysis of her voting record here:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/scozza...
Second, what is interesting about the debate about this NY congressional election is that Republicans on the national level are trying to push a very right wing agenda down to the local level. It will be interesting to watch if the far right-wing ideology will work in all areas of the country, particularly the North-East, California and the NorthWest. Every area in this country has a different definition of what being liberal and being a conservative means. I think it will be pretty hard to drive the views of a few far right-wing national or even southern conservatives down the throats of people in all areas of the country. It just will not work. Seems like a pretty ridiculous small tent strategy to me.
scarbourough (Not So) Faire?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
or balanced.
to have a spokesperson on who is married to the competition. It shows their willingness to support big tent media incest.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Scarborough and Senor are idiots! The Conservatives and some Republicans in the party have convinced themsleves into believing that the reason they keep getting their asses kicked by the Dems is because they're not conservative enough. To believe that is to believe that the Dems keep winning because they're more conservative. The Reason the Republicans keep losing is because the country is not mostly conservative when it comes to voting. These backwoods, ignorant, and out of touch Republicans have watched the country change and pass it by. And, they're still trying to use the old playbook to fight an increasingly progressive move forward by the rest of us. The Dinosaurs were the last they know that they wer extinct too!
Sorry! That's the last to know they were extinct! My last sentence looked like something a wingnut wrote.
and when did they know it?
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
what they selling on MT Press these days on commercial slots?
Scarborough, Gregory
Beck or Coulter.
I'm not seeing the difference anymore.
I know it is C&L's job description to monitor these loons, but the loop is getting unproductive. Could we try one day a week just using commercial-free sources of news rather than the usual suspects? Just between NPR, PBS and The Real News you could touch upon every story that is important and maybe foster better discussions.
television is a hapless contributor in the country's slow painful conversion into a nation of morons. This descent can only be slowed by first pulling the plug out of the wall one set at a time.
Then again I might be just spending too much time on the internet.
Coulter is the cross dresser.
By the way, the feline faced Mr. Gregory is using that good old lack of integrity in journalism with the every popular "a lot of people will see this as a referendum on Obama" crap! A lot of people? Did he name at least one of them? The "a lot of people" and the "some say" meme are the tools of the lazy and dishonest hacks! Sadly, journalism died when Walter Cronkite retired.
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BTW...I say, "Great!!! Let the moderates in the Republican Party leave! They'll always have a home in The Democratic Party!"
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
because there just aren't enough Blue-Dog dumbasses in the party as it is.
It's Only a Flesh Wound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
I wonder how long before the GOP wakes up to reality. Maybe it will come when they lose this NY seat by, what, 20%? Probably not since their denial is entrenched. They'll blame the moderate republican, naturally.
Next week on Meet the Press, David Gregory is going to interview an analog telephone cable to discuss how its being so focused on it's values is actually a benefit in a digital world.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
"Have it your way" or "It's all about you"
?
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
of the best analogy
Politics is ugly
and if he is, why did he resign as senator after being re-elected?
I'm guessing that whole Dead Intern in his office thing just wasn't going to go over well?
"Hey Joe, where you going with that dead intern on your hands...?"
Nowhere, apparently...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
To spend the Weekend at Bernies.
he was a representative
Politics is ugly
That's right! He never made it to Senator. I can't imagine why he didn't run. He's the perfect peckerwodd, country bumpkin, Alabama redneck that the wingnuts find most appealing. But, again, a dead girl in your office is a dead girl in your office!
definitely put a damper on your ambitions and send you scampering "to spend more time with your family"
Politics is ugly
i thought about that when i wrote that and the last thing i want to do is give that sonofabitch a promotion.
my bad.
was just to distract everyone from the live boy in his bed.
Personally, it appears that appealing to the fringe base may be the best way to win the next elections as most voters are getting sick of the mainstream candidates. We on the left could learn a lesson from the tea party crazies and start supporting the Kucinich/McKinney/Sanders-types on the left instead of worrying about "electability". Getting Clinton/Obama-types elected seems to do more damage than good for liberal issues.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
1) there may be some weakness toward the democrats and Obama, but the weakness toward the Republicans is even worse and their polling numbers are the worst they have ever been. all these tea baggers did absolutely nothing for the Republicans and I would argue resulted in the Republicans shooting themselves in the foot. The Republican numbers have gone down.
2) not surprising Obama's numbers have gone down after $100 mms have been spent by groups organizing the teaparties and the healthcare lobby. In addition, being in the middle of a recession with alot of unemployed has probably not helped any politician who is in power. The numbers likely reflect people's economic frustration and not necessarily anything the Democrats have done.
Obama still has very strong support and he is set up well for an economic rebound before 2012 and if he gets some healthcare done his numbers will go up.... so will the Democrats, maybe even before 2010. I cannot say the same for the party of "no", as if not a single Republican votes for healthcare reform they will look like complete idiots.
They have to say that. It's their job.
It doesn't matter what they really believe, their job is to come up with some reason why an asteroid striking the earth is good for the Republican Party.
RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAH THE GOP IS GONNA FLAH!
Republican Politics are on the same level as junior high school sports rivalries.
for the Republican Party you know they're really in trouble, and they know it.
Funny how much I notice that phrase now that Jon Stewart pointed it out.
What will be left? 999 'baggers of tea squating on 5 acres on Lonesome Uncle Bucks roadhouse.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
a comin' for Uncle Buck...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I said this yesterday but this relates to it as well. I went to Little Green Snotballs and they has a topic about the new GOP website (I won't put a link. One link to a wingnut site is enough.) The comments were interesting because whey were all really pissed off at the Republicans. They were basically saying just the opposite or what Scarborough is saying. They were pretty critical of the lunatic right of the wingnut right (does that make sense?0.
Is there ever a time that Scarborough does not start and finish his analysis of any problem with the statement, "When I ..."
These aren't moderate times...or more to the point, these are desperate, horrifically awful times incubated and made possible by "moderates" of both stripes.
I don't fault righties for going after lame, listless professional fence-sitters in their midst...the one thing you can say about the Reagan Right is that it understands better than most that the point of all this politicking is to make changes.
The Dems need to clean house in this way a damn sight worse than the GOP, I would argue. The particular changes and ideas these righties push are detestable, weird and broken, and for that reason they need to lose lose lose...but the principle of cultivating a party with a clear, coherent and bold vision, and (ipso facto) people willing to stand for things beyond their own incumbency? That's right on.
Was anybody even watching this show like they do when Rachel is on?
"That's a mighty fine GOP, Billy. You fractured it real good. It's a real GOOD thing ya done that, Billy. Now wish it into the cornfield, Billy."
thereby pulling the Dems further to the right. great plan to push the entire political system to the right.
Let them run conservative party candidates and split the votes between Cons and Repubs allowing Dems to win. Leave the moderates out in the cold, let them run as Republicans.
Seems like I've heard Limbaugh talk about party moderates before in the past, and if I remember correctly, he's had nothing nice to say about them at all. To him, to be moderately conservative is to not be conservative, if I've heard him correctly.
Joe Scarborough is a salesman for the conservative movement. He's just as loud as Billy Mays, but he's got none of the finesse.
Do you like limited government interference in your life, unless it involves what happens in your bedroom? Do you like low taxes, and tax cuts that benefit the rich? Do you like teabagging? Then you need the conservative movement! If the big tent of the Republican Party isn't what you want, tear the tent apart and pick out all of your favorite pieces! Call now, and we'll include a candidate in your local special election, absolutely free!
but it's good for John McCain!
GOP's troubles!
*facepalm*
I've never seen change without a fire
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