Saxby Chambliss: Attacks on Cleland Were Fair, Regrets Not Getting Enough of "Our Folks" Out to Vote
By Heather Tuesday Nov 11, 2008 7:00pm
From Hannity and Colmes Nov. 10, 2008
COLMES: Why do you think you’ve been unable…[to] close the deal with the people of Georgia in terms of what happened on Election Day?
CHAMBLISS: Well, listen, we have, for the first time in the history the our state, a 30-day advanced vote period, and let’s give the Obama people credit. They did a good job of getting out their vote early.
There was a high percentage of minority vote, and I am tickled to death that as many Georgians as did examined their right to vote. That’s what make our election process the envy of the whole free world, but we weren’t able to get enough of our folks out on Election Day. That's a challenge to get them out in a run-off but we look forward to that challenge and I'm pretty excited about looking towards Dec. 2nd.
COLMES: Is there anything you would have done differently in your first term to have maybe created a different result on election day?
CHAMBLISS: You know there really isn't, listen I've never stared a controversial issue in the face and run the other way. I think people of Georgia sent me to Washington to solve problems and we've made an attempt to do that and it's not always the popular thing to do but I think it's the right thing to do.
COLMES: You came under fire of course for that ad against Max Cleland and people have talked about that ever since, the one where there was an image of Osama bin Laden. If you had it to do all over again would you still have run that ad?
CHAMBLISS: You know that ad is a myth, it just hangs around. If people had seen the ads that were run against me by my then opponent they would think that was a light-weight ad, but you know politics is a contact sport. It's a game in where you have to define your opponent and we're going to continue to work hard to address the issues that are important to Georgians. We did then and we're going to do it again.
COLMES: So you would have run it, that, knowing what you know now you would have done the same thing and run the same ad?
CHAMBLISS: Listen that ad was very fair and it pointed out defficiencies in the voting record of my opponent.
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COLMES: Oh, and happy Veterans Day, you chicken shit chicken hawk scum bag!
chambliss left him a huge opening...and he didnt take it...cuz he is a pinhead
i hear that chambliss also again defended his campaign from 2002...he has no fucking shame
obama has sent his team to georgia to take this motherfucker out once and for all
hopefully they can rally the troops and get a large turnout.
with the wingnuts decimated by the loss last tuesday, most should stay home
It's time to beat these pricks at their own game. Use the truth and hang them by their own petard (a petard was a crude explosive device that often blew up in the users hands)
Interesting watching the Lee Atwater story on PBS tonight, and how the slime machine operates. What he did for Daddy, Karl did for Dubya.
...the word 'petard' derives from another meaning "to break wind'. Methinks Shakespeare meant something along the lines of being hoisted by your own fart. Which is funny as well as ironic;)
here is the cleland ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJGAWT90Xl4
you decide if its lightweight, or meant to do exactly what it did
Regrets Not Getting Enough of "Our Folks" Out to Vote
Are you implying racism in the comment? Jesus...
vote...which were not "his folks"
what the fuck do you think it means?
fuck chambliss
No, he prefaced it with this:
"and let’s give the Obama people credit. They did a good job of getting out their vote early."
This kind of taking out of context is sickening and BS. You guys can be as bad as the repubs sometimes...
Couldn't be clearer: there's the minority vote, then there's "our folks" ..
"Well, listen, we have, for the first time in the history the our state, a 30-day advanced vote period, and let’s give the Obama people credit. They did a good job of getting out their vote early.
There was a high percentage of minority vote, and I am tickled to death that as many Georgians as did examined their right to vote. That’s what make our election process the envy of the whole free world, but we weren’t able to get enough of our folks out on Election Day. That's a challenge to get them out in a run-off but we look forward to that challenge and I'm pretty excited about looking towards Dec. 2nd."
You people are pathetic.
So it doesn't matter that we're right .. we're still pathetic.
Got it !
[You are saying this to someone who agrees 100% with you. You backed up her comment-Sitemonitor]
Notice I said "you people". I must have meant NI**ERS, didn't I?
I have no idea who this man is, he may be a KKK member for all I care, the fact is there was nothing racist in the above comment.
And you are, indeed, pathetic, for wishing it to be.
[Now you are picking a fight with a guy who backed you, then slammed you, because he didn't know it was you. And the old site-never coming back. Give it up-Sitemonitor]
why didnt chambliss think that any of the minorities had voted for him?
cuz hes a fucking racist prick
Because when a right wing race baiter from Georgia says "our folks" right after pointing out that many "minorities" turned out, he doesn't mean white people.
For the modern bigot, if there is any possible interpretation of a statement that is not racist, then the statement can not possibly be racist, and the bigot may feel justifiably offended.
Don't "you people" realize how easy it is to see through you. Perhaps you forget: some of us hear you talk when you think you're just around your Aryan brothers. We get the code.
WTF?
"There was a high percentage of morons posting on the old site, and I am tickled to death that as many Georgians and other stupid fucks as did examined their right to comment. That’s what make the Crooks and Liars blogging process the envy of the whole free world, but we weren’t able to get enough of our racist pukes out on this new site. That's a challenge to get them out in a blog-off but we look forward to that challenge and I'm pretty excited about looking towards Dec. 2nd".
I agree with Nikola - What Chambliss said seems like you have to be listening to it trying to hear racism in order to construe it as racist. There was an historically high turnout of minority voters who normally vote democratic. Chambliss cites this historic turnout as an advantage to the democrats. He then says he wishes “our folks” had gotten out more on election day. It takes a whole lot of stretching to turn that into a racist remark and not just leave it at the political remark it was. He was saying he wished republicans turned out in larger numbers. It’s obvious.
Some people say he was speaking in code. Well that's interesting, and may be true, but then that means to a casual observer it shouldn't be offensive. You're also saying there's no room for redemption with anyone. Because if you can only listen to people with the prejudice of past comments in mind, then they really can't speak anymore - you'll hear what you want to hear.
I'm even inclined to wonder out loud if it's so bad even if he did mean he wished more white people came out to vote. First of all, it's abundantly clear not all white people are republicans and not all black people are democrats. So it would just be a stupid comment. But more importantly, have you not heard the rally to get more black people and minorities voting? Is it really only racist if a white person wants more white people to vote, and not racist if a black person wants more black people to vote? I hope I'm not being racist by asking that -
A sock puppet! Yeah, that's it.
Hmmmmm....
[C]haking opened a C&L membership minutes before rushing to Nikola's defense (and just minutes after Nikola himself had returned to this thread), then noted below (again, while backing up Nikola) how "odd" it feels to be the "odd one out" on this site. And these are chaking's only two comments on C&L - ever (according to a site search).
Hmmm. That is odd.
[It can LOOK odd, but really, as a site monitor, I see a lot of posters who join for one or two posts-Sitemonitor]
You must feel so clever. Never mind the fact that I've been posting here for months, every time someone disagrees, they get called a troll, or worse, creating multiple accounts. Pathetic. I guess you don't know admins can check e-mails? IP addresses for country/location? I guess you don't know I'm not even in the United States, as 'chaking' seems to be? I'm not even on the same continent. But sure, if it makes you feel safe that anyone disagreeing with you is a troll, live in your little world. Religion was invented for people like you.
Actually, I never called you anything. But after that "Religion was invented for people like you" comment, I think I can feel fairly safe in calling you a bit of a jerk.
And yes, I did notice that you indicated Croatia in your membership information. Yet you seem to have such a depth of knowledge regarding America's South.
If so, "Bless Your Heart."
And I guess he was going for the whole Tesla thing in his profile.
wow - just looked at this. I have posted at C & L under CK... As you are probably aware, C&L created a new system for commenting not too long ago... I didn't want to register because I don't comment too often. I'm not a cheerleader, so I don't post on things I agree with, only when I don't agree.
You, fiver, are acting quite like a republican right now. You assume the worst and completely bypass the argument. I'm increasingly feeling as if no political movement is ready to have level headed debates, it seems everyone is caught up in the heat of the moment.
Saxby might be misconstrued by many. The reason is that his attacks on Cleland were so below the belt that he has no integrity in most thinking people's eyes. Therefore, it's easy to suppose that he meant something racist, even if he may not have. Having seen the ad he ran against Cleland, it would be easy to imagine this guy capable of anything.
If Chambliss wants to be considered an honorable person, worthy of the Senate seat he hold, perhaps he should have acted with honon in the past.
Apologies, Sitemonitor, only seeing your comments now. I wasn't actually picking a fight with that particular person, I was just making an observation that required to be seen in the context of the discussion, so I pressed reply, rather than New comment. Entirely my bad, though. Apologies.
You people! Looks like you like to generalize to your advantage too!
Yes, I'm a racist.
so far... congratulations!
Feel free to be one. What you would base your superiority on is a bit puzzling, though. You seem especially average.
you are welcome here...but dont try to pull that wingnut bullshit here...you see...the vid is still posted
had he just said dems, or supporters...you would be right
but he said minorities...as in black people...as in not my folk
{ Deleted, Why did you have to go there? Penalty box for you.SiteMonitor}
Actually, he first said how good the Obama campaign was at turning out "their vote" and how that was a factor for the high Obama win. Then, he mentioned how a high minority turnout was also a factor.
THEN, he said he was disappointed at his own party getting out "our vote".
So, bear with me here, you choose not to confront THEIR VOTE vs OUR VOTE. You choose to confront OUR VOTE vs MINORITIES.
You are sad, sad people.
And thank you for insulting me. It fills me with hope that the intelligent commenters of this site don't fall for this hate-filled race-baiting.
If the guy is a racist, which I wouldn't doubt, tbh, throw out some of his clearly racist quotes. Not something you take out of context and want it to be racist. Pathetic.
It's actually worse than what the republicans do, cause the left is generally more informed of the consequences of lying and doesn't generally support the "means to and end" politics.
I agree - again. It feels odd to be on a progressive site as the odd one out, but its been happening more and more. One thing is the calling people racist thing seems to be happening a whole lot more recently. By all accounts, most of the people called racist have a past that does display it, but some of the things that are being used to persuade people are ridiculous. It worries me a bit how easy it is to destroy someone's reputation - I read a month or two ago about using the word 'uppity'. I learned that a lot of people consider that a racial epithet. I'm sure glad I learned it then, because I've used that word my whole life without ever realizing it was allegedly racist. I'm not alone either, and I'm not from the south (maybe that's the reason - i.e. people who experienced racism in the South are attributing all of the local slang to people from anywhere expecting them to know its racist). I was so astounded it was being used against someone as being racist, I asked around at work and nobody there knew it. It's dangerous to go around assuming people have hidden meanings to their words because it's all just assumption - and that's for the republicans.
OK, do a quick test. Next time you are in front of a black dude, call him "uppity" to his face. See what happens.
I guarantee you, that you will be getting a free life lesson about the concept of: CONTEXT.
Alas, I find it mildly entertaining to see your troll-on-troll ramblings. Amusing in a pornographic kind of way...
Thanks, fuckface, I wouldn't know I was a troll if I didn't have your smart brain pointing it out for me. It's sad to see the base elements from the left float out on this site. Usually I only see them from the right, and feel good about myself.
This just makes me lose hope.
Never mind that I've been posting here for months, never mind you have to register for an account nowadays. I go through all this trouble just to "troll".
Moron.
Is Chambliss a racist? I don't know. But I suspect he is.
But the thing that is bothering me is this attack on Nikola for simply disagreeing with other people people here.
Granted, Nikola shouldn't have called people here pathetic. All that did was rile people up.
But he/she shouldn't have been so viscousally attacked for voicing his/her opinion.
I shouldn't say much, because I'm just as guilty of doing it too. Makes me see myself when I did it. Don't really like what I see.
What happened to tolerance?
Well, when someone becomes aggressive towards me for no good reason ("what the fuck do you think it means?"), I'll probably be a little less diplomatic.
Any I stand by the statement that it's quite sad and pathetic, the groupthink around here.
With honorable exceptions, ofc.
And now we enter the "victim" routine of the sad divine comedy which is the predictable MO of the common variety troll.
I especially love the fact that you get to call people names (fuckface, moron, etc)... and yet play the victim of slander. LOL.
It is as if projection is so second nature for you right wingers, that you don't even realize that the things you are complaining about... are actually YOU.
And yes, you are a troll. No normal person would come and say so many stupid crap, and stay to endure the abuse. All in order to drive this thread into a tangent, and far away from the starting point: the piece of shit racist that is Saxby Chambliss....
Sorry no dice, LOL.
"No normal person would come and say so many stupid crap, and stay to endure the abuse."
Well, at least you admit the abuse.
As for stupid, I used arguments, didn't try ad hominem attacks.
"Call someone a troll and all his points are automatically invalid!"
Enjoy that philosophy.
That is perhaps the only thing you write with which I agree. It is a silly internet meme to call someone a troll that does not agree with the prevailing wisdom. You did fire the first insult, calling the posters pathetic. You do open yourself for retort and protesting that retort is silly.
Perhaps you don't understand my point of view. Absolute outrage at my favorite site for spewing such out of context crap, while at the same time claiming moral high ground. It's pathetic, no question about it. Also, hinting that I'm an idiot for not getting it? I'm bound to be mad.
I most definitely did not throw the first "insult" here, and never aimed any of it at the people here at large. Only the crowd that likes to spread unbased, untimely hate around.
As for Chambliss, fuck him. I don't know him, but I know he's type. The chances are he's racist.
All my points, however, stand.
Nothing he said above was racist.
"our folks" did not mean WHITES, it meant CONSERVATIVES.
I've never see such a stupid argument.
And I've made some pretty stupid arguments.
Fuck it, I want no part of you guys.
Tyler, growing up I was usually "the white kid". I really don't need to be lectured on what would happen if I said something to this race of person or that race of person. I have used the word uppity around my former roomate (and for this argument I should tell you he was black) and I don't recall him ever being upset. The only thing he was upset with was when I called him my boy... That I learned then wasn't looked on too fondly... Meanwhile, as the white kid, I was called nogga constantly... i.e. someone who wants to be a "g". I didn't protest too much, but I didn't like it...
I guess I got a little bit of a tainted view in that regard. I saw my black friends and neighbors etc degrade me and white people in general quite often. Yet I rarely hear anyone call a black person out for being racist... I resigned myself quite awhile ago to just understand that there are a lot of people that use race in an argument or as an insult... not necessarily because they are full fledged racists, but because it's the easiest way to attack someone... it's the most obvious thing about them. So really, whatever... I'm just sick of everyone only calling out white people... And that's a very general statement, as there are always exceptions, but it seems on political sites (progressive ones usually) only white people are ever cited for being racist.
You know, the dipshit is being Palinesque with the "Our folks" comment. He's talking about the "real Americans." That ass McCain is going down there to campaign for him tomorrow, and this is after condemning that ad aimed at Max Cleland.
Saxby Chambliss Hits a New Low
Is it possible it could mean Republicans or conservative folks?
Not only possible, but probable.
Sometimes the hate and the herd mentality on this site really brings me down.
Funny to see the lot of you with your panties all twisted defending the right of a known racist asshole to have the benefit of the doubt no matter what.
It is not like there are more pressing matters in our country currently, is there?
More pressing matters than taking a person's words out of context in order to make them sound racist? No way.
If he is a "known racist asshole" (which I don't know), it's even worse, as there are probably clear racist statements he made, and no need for taking him out of context in order to portray him as a racist. Who's wasting time here again?
Concern troll to the end, eh?
Because yes, a piece of shit racist scumbag. Who ran one of the dirtiest campaigns, in recent history, against Cleland. Deserves the full benefit of the doubt under any circumstance.
And here we are, you spending countless posts... to what it basically amounts at splitting hairs. Talk about wasting time, which... again, leads me to think that you project too much.
Of course, you are fishing for comments so you can go back to wherever right wing rat hole you came from, so you can post it back... oh, you big man! You got us meanie liberals, with our grouthink and all.
Haha :D
Your sense of paranoia combined with huge self centeredness is quite amusing.
Anyway, if I was from a right wing blog I'd probably just fake your comments anyway, lol.
you keep posting, and you keep projecting. It is a nice way to get an insight into the mind (ganglia really) of the common garden variety concern troll.
So far, all you are trying to do is to deviate the conversation from the original topic: the douchebagery of Chambliss' statements.
Now, other than shilling, excusing, and generally trying to kiss Chambliss' arse. Do you have anything else to offer?
I am asking this for the benefit of time and space, as you seem to do nothing but trying to excuse the inexcusable by grasping at the proverbial interpretative straws.
Sadly, you obviously have no concept of "argument" and "discussion".
If you don't like me "wasting space" here, start making sense.
what an amazing counter argument!!! Not...
Again, in the spirit of efficiency: Are you going to do anything other than leave droppings, kiss Chambliss' arse? Or do we need to endure another troll effort from your part?
Maybe it's the Oyster Point Toasted Lager I'm drinking (from Long Island) - delicious but way too pricey at $36 a case... but my God!!! How do these people get away with saying this shit???
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hope it helps...
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if so, there is no hope for georgia
"but we weren’t able to get enough of our folks out on Election Day."
Shameless and unbelievable. What a joke of an "American" this is.
Some people have to work extra hard to seem nice in public, so it takes too much effort to find the words and they come out funny. See the current white house occupant.
It's hard to talk well when 80% of what pops in your head isn't fit for TV.
This guy is well known for his racism. It's not the first time he's fucked up.
I wish I would stop reading this as 'Sexy' Chambliss.
... man, I could use a joint right about now.
Allinna Coma: So, you're in a run-off for your Senate seat. How come?
Sippin Chablis: Heh, well, the colored folks voted in droves, which is cute and all. After all, the world thinks we're just great in how we let the coloreds vote these days. We're the envy of the world. Kudos to their new president, by the way. Anyhoo, what I need to do for this run-off is make sure I turn out enough of my people.
Coma: I see. So, is there anything you think you should have done differently while you were in office, maybe?
Chablis: Naw. I don't stare issues in the face. I run the other way. It's how I solve problems. I think my people like that about me. That I do what's right, even if they don't like it.
Coma: Hmm. So, uh, hmm, uh, let's talk about that ad you ran against Max Cleland with the image of Osama bin Laden in it. Proud of that?
Chablis: I didn't do that. That ad is a myth. It doesn't exist.
Coma: Interesting.
Chablis: But to the extent that it might exist, it wasn't so bad. Hell, that Cleland fella hit me much harder. But that's okay. Politics is a contact sport. You gotta define the other guy. And punch him. In the gut. Or the nuts. It's all part of the fun.
Coma: So, you like negative campaigning?
Chablis: Look, when someone's a durned librul, I gotta point that out. Nobody likes libruls, fer cryin' out loud.
Coma: Nobody? Didn't the country just go left?
Sheer Insanity: Now is time on Sprockets when we force Allinna Coma to dance. Stop talking, monkey boy, and move those feet!
Chablis: You gotta define the other guy. And punch him. In the gut. Or the nuts. Or cut off his legs.
Coma: Did you say cut off his his legs?
Chablis: I didn't say that. That's a myth. It doesn't exist.
Republican right wing Racists.
So the GOP are...
Pro-family, depending on your definition of family; also, as in not passing any family leave legislation?
Pro-religion, provided you're the right kind of Christianity.
Pro-country, as in pushing for unfair trade measures, anti-wage increases, and encouraging businesses to outsource jobs overseas. Also, wavered and filibustered additional armament for the troops.
If that's pro, then I hate to see their opposition.
Ignorance is still in the minority, Mr Chambliss.
The white people? Is that what he means?
Well then, come on, man, spit it out loud and clear: WHITE POWER!
Just shout it over and over again on TV.
You have to let people know what you are all about.
WTF! What a douche bag! Here we have a Religious Right Repug smearing a Veteran of Vietnam, and he has the balls to say Max was unpatriotic? Only Repugs could get away with this shit!
Highly recommended viewing. Atwater is still running Republican campaign strategy.
By the way, Chambliss' election in 2002 was rigged by Diebold. Polls showed Clelend leading by 5% before the election, and exit polls showed him winning by 5% during the election. Chambliss won by 7% in an election run entirely on Diebold systems. Chambliss is a fraud.
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R E M E M B E R:
You can’t spell (R)acist without borrowing that (R).
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Again, another stupid sodahead advertisement, with a picture of Barack Obama, Castro, Kim Jong Il, and Ahmadenijad, saying "Obama Wins! Are you ready to rumble with terrorists?" It's not worth the money John. Get rid of this fucking abomination Mr. Amato!
This is enough incentive to mobilise everybody available to try and get this creep out of office and replace him with a Democrat.
That’s what make our election process the envy of the whole free world...
The envy of the whole free world? That sentence wouldn't be true even if he changed "free" to "Third." Our election process is a joke. We should have international observers supervising our elections.
An indirect presidential election system. With nebulous rules, that you have actually proactively register for, since it does not seem to be a given right. All backed in most cases by electronic voting machines without paper trail or oversight.
In fact our presidential election is so envied around the world, that the government won't even enforce the possibility of employees taking time off work to vote. I guess that is done to lessen the feeling of inadequacy of them furrigners, by proactively making it as hard as possible to vote for the common folk.
envy of the world? i live overseas. you hear this myth about america all the time, about everything ... people like this chambliss punk behave like an ape in a zoo ... they sh!t in their own hand and throw it at the spectators ...
Racism? maybe- I think it is more laziness and coercion than anything.
I live in the district. I believe that Saxby and congressman Nathan Deal use these vague "us vs. them" devices as a powertools here all the time to attract all sorts. They are kind of like a Rorschach omnibus for people fearful of change.
Case in point: Concerning immigration reform, politicians have threatened to take away government funding from local schools and colleges if there are any substantial debates on the subject. The mere spectre of "our people" losing ground or allowing the local electorate to think for themselves absolutely terrifies the majority of politicians here. Baiting the electorate like this makes for an easy ride.
That makes repukes in your area master baiters?
"There was a high percentage of minority vote, and I am tickled to death that as many Georgians as did examined their right to vote."
I hate this southern rhetoric, they can never come out & just say what they mean, they have to doll it up all sweet & light,... like 'peculiar insititution' in stead of 'enslavement of other humans',... he's not tickled to death, he made statements that the 'other people' were coming out in droves to vote & it scared the shit out of him.
Say what you mean & mean what you say, asshat.
If were lucky Putin will order the Russian tanks in.
Our election process is NOT the envy of the free world. We have very poor voter turnout compared to the rest of the free world.
On Wednesday, the chairman of the Hillsborough County, Florida Republican party forwarded an e-mail to several hundred party members that warned of “‘the threat’ of ‘carloads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes.’” Meanwhile, Sen. Saxby Chambliss proclaimed that the the “rush” of African-Americans to the polls has “got our side energized“:
“There has always been a rush to the polls by African-Americans early,” he said at the square in Covington, a quick stop on a bus tour as the campaign entered its final week. He predicted the crowds of early voters would motivate Republicans to turn out. “It has also got our side energized, they see what is happening,” he said.
Similarly, Chambliss has been warning his “predominantly white base” in North Georgia, “The other folks are voting.”
Perhaps not being from this Continent does not inform you specifically of the institutionalization of racism and the Orwellian Newspeak of its most ferverent supporters.
Chambliss is the same gentleman that questioned the patriotism of his opponent, Max Cleland, a severely disabled war hero, sublimely tying him to Osama Bin Laden, while Chambliss himself dodged the Vietnam draft. It is quite relevant t call a spade a spade here, Nicky.
'Ole Nikola, irony could be defined as you calling others pathetic and then complaining about being insulted. Silly, no?
I called this kind of behaviour pathetic. If you don't understand me, great. This isn't why I come to this site, to see statements taken out of context just to feed the beast.
As for that guy being a racist, I think he probably is. However, it's completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
That there was NOTHING racist in his above comment.
You need to look up bifurcation. Never did I claim that all Republicans are racists. Chambliss, on the other hand, has proven it time and again. While you may not see racism in the words, they are clearly code words to the base. No amount of stammering and foot stomping can change that simple fact. Chambliss is plying on the fears of his constituents. Denial is. Of just a river in Africa.
Also, you seem to be trying to prove that the GOP has a big number of racists in its ranks. I don't doubt it, nor have I ever denied it. None of your arguments go towards disproving my original claim, that there was nothing racist in anything said above^^ by Chambliss.
With a double dose of whinny posts no less!
Your steady flow of ad hominem doesn't make me any less right. Nor you any more mature.
a point.
Other than kissing Chambliss' derriere and whine, I fail to see what you are bringing to this thread.
In order for YOUR attacks to be ad hominem, *I* need to "have a point"?
lol
I giggled there.
Obviously you are a very bored troll looking for attention.
Good luck, I have better things to do. I hope the severe case of e-coli you got from Chambliss' arse was worth it (Looking at the content of your drivel doesn't seem it was, but to each their own I guess).
Go on...
I would say an ad hominems don't need a point, but the objective of getting a debate off-point. It's insults that relate to the topic, not off-topic insults.
Robbing cripples and disabled/disfigured folks is almost as popular here in Georgia as dogfighting and cockfighting. They can't fight back, make easy targets, and juries here are always on the side of the racist/sexist/scumbag.
Saxby is just another looter who got away with it and laughed all the way to the office. It's easy to tell why the disabled are not covered under hate crime laws--politicians' families and the land-hungry rich might be held liable.
And, by the way, that's the source of unusual names among African-Americans. If a white man and a black man had the same name, whitey would pull an identity theft on paper and steal some acreage.
Max Cleland should have fragged Chambliss, or found someone who would, but Cleland only fights when authorized by his government. I would rather he had shot him, claimed self-defense, and gotten a jury of his true peers--disabled Viet vets.
70+ posts of hair-splitting and "You started it. No, YOU started it".
Here's crossing my fingers for the next one.
[Ya think Bonkers? I could delete the very first post the one that got the ball rolling, and the other 70 would be vanished. Then I thought "Forget it." Get it out there and move along. It's only the internets. Sheesh-Sitemonitor]
Sitemonitor, feel free to email me with any complaints you have about my approach to discussion. I will moderate myself by any and all suggestion you make, even if it means not posting again.
But I will not stop posting on the site just because disagreeing seems to be disagreeable.
Awaiting your reply, hopefully.
{ Let it go. This got out of hand. If this happens again, all involved will be dealt with. SiteMonitor}
[Deleted-Sitemonitor] How about letting discussions flow organically among adults. [Deleted-This discussion was allowed to flow organically among
adultspeople who can type. If you don't like the way site monitors do things around here, you may want to consider posting elsewhere, you rude little troll-Sitemonitor]Yep, the more local government gets, the more Nazi it becomes. Way to fall back on the troll bandwagon. What I "typed" was not rude, but the truth. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, you free-speech denying megalomaniac. Amato would be so disappointed. Way to edit it. You appear even more petty, childish, and rude.
I think I mostly agree. I don't know what you said or how "rude" you were, but..
A moderator should moderate when he absolutely has to, and not engage in discussions from a position of power and make things personal.
A U.S. Senator says "Id'nt"
Is that even a word?
Or is that just accepted Georgia ignorance?
Wonder what years he attended U of Georgia?
Curtsie!
What a whiner. McCain was right, the right wing is nothing but whiners. YOU LOST THE ELECTION BECAUSE YOU HAD NO MESSAGE! Only the same old "dirt". No plan! No guidance! McCain's wife is the daughter of a Mob Boss.Everything was criminal. McCain had no backbone to TELL THE TRUTH!
Quit dancing Saxby (what kind of name is that?). "Your people", which was me, "had no message" about this friggen mess the conservatives have caused. NO MESSAGE! NO MESSAGE! NO MESSAGE! NO TRUTH! NO SPIRIT! NO MESSAGE! That's all there is to it.
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