Rick Sanchez Takes on Conservatives for Patients' Rights Founder Rick Scott
CPR's Rick Scott twists in the wind as he tries to explain how he as the CEO of HCA had no idea his former company was participating in the practice of upcoding, where they defrauded the Medicare system for more than a decade and were forced to pay a $1.7 billion fine, the highest in U.S. history.
SANCHEZ: It sure looks to me like he's pointing his finger right at you. Do you think he is?
SCOTT: I think he was.
SANCHEZ: Yes, yes. Do you -- do you take credit -- I was just having a conversation with Eric Boehlert and they said, look, this guy has got this Web site. In fact, I'll show it to the viewers again. There's your Web site right there. We'll take it all the way to the very top. People can see it. It's CPR, Conservatives for Patients' Rights.
And there, you tell people where they can go, to these town-hall meetings. You tell them what they can do. You show them videos of what's been done so far.
Some people have used the word "orchestrated." I'm not sure what word you would use. But do you take credit for making sure this is going on? SCOTT: It would be nice to, right? But -- because I believe that people ought to show up to these meetings. They ought to be nicer about it. But they ought to show up to these meetings and tell them what they think.
I think they ought to show up whatever side you're on. You ought to let people know. I mean, we're going through a significant debate about what ought to happen in health care. Show up and tell them what you think.
SANCHEZ: But -- but you're -- but -- but let's be fair about this. You're not trying to get everybody to go. You're trying to gin up the people who are going to be on your side. I mean, you've got a lot to gain from this, don't you?
SCOTT: Well, I believe -- I clearly believe that government-run health care will be bad for you as a patient. It will be bad for you as a taxpayer. It will be bad for our country. But most importantly, bad for you as a patient.
Now, would I rather people show up that care about the debate on -- the way I believe? Absolutely. But when I'm on radio -- I'm on a lot of talk radio. I say show up, read the bill.
SANCHEZ: But you know, let's talk about this, though. I mean, the accusation that the White House was essentially making, one that you haven't challenged yet to my knowledge. Maybe you will here now.
Columbia Hospital Corporation, which you founded...
SCOTT: Absolutely.
SANCHEZ: ... which later became HCA, which made you, from my understanding, incredibly wealthy, was charged with defrauding the government for more than a decade and had to pay a record fine of $1.7 billion.
I mean, some would argue, and it would be hard to say they're wrong, that you would be the poster child for everything that's wrong with the greed that has hurt our current health-care system. People would ask, why should they listen to you?
SCOTT: Well, you don't have to listen to me. You should look at the facts. You should read the bills.
If you want to go back and look at Columbia HCA, you should look at what we accomplished. Health-care costs when I got into the industry in '88 were 16 percent a year inflation. When I got out in 1997, they were less than 1 percent. We had the highest patient satisfaction; we had the best outcomes.
Now, if you were in the hospital business in the late '80s, you went through Medicare investigations. President Clinton expanded the investigations. They said, "If you made a mistake in your filing, that was called fraud." Not only did Columbia HCA...
SANCHEZ: But one point -- but $1.7 billion? That's the highest ever paid in the history of the United States that your company ended up having to pay as a result of what you did by defrauding the government?
SCOTT: The -- no one went to jail. I was never accused of anything. Now let's think about it: $1.7 billion sounds like a lot. We had 343 -- 343 hospitals, 150 surgery centers, over 100,000 patients a day.
Now, let's look at the industry. Cleveland Clinic paid big fines. Mayo paid big fines. Yale paid big fines. Now, were they as big? No. How many hospitals did they have?
SANCHEZ: But you're the guy who's sitting here telling us that we can't allow the government to do this because it won't work, and they might take over or do some things that are -- that are wrong. How much more wrong can you be than what you just said? Not only has your company screwed up, and you just admitted to it. But you're saying, "And look at all the other companies, they did the same thing."
SCOTT: No, I don't believe that at all.
SANCHEZ: It doesn't sound to me like a sterling system that we have, does it?
SCOTT: I think -- that's right. You ought to fix the system. You ought to say, why do we have 135,000 pages of Medicare regulations that people work their tail off? The hospital industry to this day works its tail off to do the right thing.
But don't believe me. Read the bill. Beside, do you want your taxes to go up? Do you want a UK system? Do you want a Canadian system?
SANCHEZ: Some people would answer, yes, they do. As a matter of fact, in Canada, I think they pay one half of what Americans pay for health care. And most of them are proud as pudding of their health- care system. They write me here every day, saying, "I can't believe Americans don't like our system. We think it's absolutely fantastic."
By the way, let me ask you a question. Your company was accused of something called upcoding. That means they treated patients for something minor but charged the government, the taxpayers, for something expensive. That was the accusation. Is that true?
SCOTT: I have -- Rick, I have no idea. Rick, I have no idea. I was -- I never did anything with Medicare. I started a company. I bought hospitals. I bought HCA. I bought all the Humana hospitals. Let's go back to...
SANCHEZ: All right. Let me ask you this one then. Here's the other accusation, as I was reading about what some people say your company may have been involved in. Your company would go into a region. They would buy up all the hospitals, and then they would shut them all down except for one to make that one hospital very powerful. I mean, I guess that's a good business plan. But is that good for patients?
SCOTT: Absolutely. Now, first off, that didn't happen. We did buy 20 hospitals that we consolidated. It goes on every day, and -- not every day. It goes on throughout the country, all the time. It's happened since before I got into the business and afterwards.
But here's the reason why you want that to happen as a patient.
SANCHEZ: OK.
SCOTT: You want to make sure -- you want to make sure that your hospital has the best equipment. So if you have a hospital that has more patients and can afford the best equipment, you want your hospital to be successful. They have the right equipment. They can hire the right employees.
SANCHEZ: Well, I'm reading a report here, though, from "The Post and Courier" that says -- they say your hospitals had consistent dirty facilities. The doctors say the gloves they were asked to used to operate were so cheap they would break. And nurses say they had to treat so many patients they weren't able to handle the demand.
SCOTT: Well, let's look at the numbers. How could I have the lowest cost to a patient? I did. You look at the studies. I had better patient satisfaction in the industry by a long shot, and I had better outcomes. Because we measured everything.
So -- so who probably put that out? No different than what's happening today. The unions put these things out, because they want to unionize your hospitals. But if you look at the facts...
SANCHEZ: Yes.
SCOTT: ... lower prices, better outcomes and better patient satisfaction.
SANCHEZ: But you're not saying all of these things are true? I mean, you're copping to the fact that your company had to pay $1.7 billion, which is still the most ever paid in the history of the United States, right?
SCOTT: After I left, the company paid those fines. The company did not pay those fines when I was there. When I bought -- when I bought...
SANCHEZ: But hold on. No, no, no, no. You're playing -- you're playing with the facts, sir. Let me tell you what happened.
SCOTT: No.
SANCHEZ: These charges were charged against your company while you were there, while you were the boss, and it happened over a period of ten years. Yes, they were paid after you left, but the accused -- but they accused them of happening while you were leading the company? You know that.
SCOTT: And, Rick -- and, Rick, it was covering time frames before I bought those companies, and it covered time frames afterwards.
SANCHEZ: I guess the point I'm making is, though, look, people are going to look at you as the guy who's telling all these people out there, which is your right as an American and good for them for wanting to get out there and have a point of view and be passionate about their money and their tax money.
SCOTT: Right.
SANCHEZ: But some people are going to look at your record and some of the things that you and I just talked about and say, "This is the guy who's leading this charge. Is he the one that we should be listening to?" Not exactly a perfect past when it comes to what's right for taxpayers and patients?
SCOTT: Absolutely. If you care about patient satisfaction, if you care about cost, if you care about quality, you absolutely do.
SANCHEZ: All right. Rick Scott, you know what? Thank you, sir, for taking the heat and taking the questions. We appreciate having you on.
SCOTT: All right. Thank you.
This Sanchez guy is alright.
for some time and did not make the connection..Go Sanchez... By the by The Lewin Group is backed and owned by UNITED Healthcare>> the one quoted by all the wingnuts!
Insurance Co profits up by 428% since 2000!
Read Pearlstein on the scare tactics:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Nice of Sanchez to call Scott on his obvious fraud and hypocrisy but too bad he let him off the hook by not more assertively challenging his flagrant lying. Typical MSM enabler. You can't trust these weaklings to anything right. They only have a thin veneer of competence.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
bottom line is that these assholes are doing one thing, and one things only: trying to protect their profit margin.
Now, in business, one protects that. But just the fact that we've allowed health care to get to this point, where we have "hospital companies" and insurance companies that first and foremost are all about looking out for shareholders is fucking insane.
Christ, I thought auto and homeowners companies were bad.. They're not even as close to slimy.
Hell, in CA the insurance commissioner is all over them when they do shady stuff. Where's the outrage over health insurance??
"The good news though is our bud's in big agri-business, Big Pharma and what have you, are going to insure that we have a continual revenue stream of stressed out, sick, and desperate people for the rest of our lives."
look like that doomsday cult leader that all offed themselves when Haley's Comet came around last time?
but your comment was spot-on.
I'm so sick of these Bullshit Artists (as Bea Arthur said in "History of the World, Part 1)
Ya seen one comet, ya done see'd 'em all };)>
He does have the same crazy eyeballs...
And I friggin LOVE that movie!
"Did you TRY to bullshit this week?"
well with the body waxed décor of our current American aesthetic.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_t6ikLJ4YVos/R-qiVS3...
The only relationship that has consistently proven bad for the patient is the relationship that includes insirance companies in the mix. All government run medical programs work far better and far cheaper than the unsurance-based system: Medicare, VA, military healthcare system.
You're fulla shit, Son.
$1 of every $700 spent on healthcare in America...
Goes to one single CEO - Stephen Hemsley.
Lots more - here - Enjoy your “allowed” reality.
Is back to covering the crime beat for a third-rate local newspaper? Oh yeah, they're gone.
Good for Rick. Let's see Cottage Cheese Wolf ask a tough question for once.
This should be required viewing for each and every member of the MSM. Ask questions and confront obvious lies.
Jesus, is it that hard? You have to know something to ask a question. And that's too much work, I guess...
scott basically admits to one of their business strategies when ceo of hca. buy up hospitals shut some down essentially consolidating limiting both choice and competition. this is what united healthcare has done with other insurers and provider groups. remember the opposition cry to health care reform is
"UNfair advantage" by the government. then they head back to their office(s) to consolidate and reduce
competition in order to be in control of services,pricing and market share. in the state of iowa wellpoint insures over 70% of the state population.......little to no competition.
either directly or indirectly.
they cry UNfair advantage and it's the same strategy they use to dominate a market.
Rick Scott implicitly admits he knew of the upcoding when he says it went on before he arrived and after he left. Competent managers do not fail to investigate the practices and policies of the businesses they acquire. They do so in order to install their own set of rules and practices and establish uniformity. Fraud of that magnitude had to be common knowledge among management.
Read the bill. Read the bill. Read the bill. 1000 pages of potential crap that might be included in the final bill, which is the only one that counts. To read this tripe is to die from boredom. All for naught.
I wouldn't look twice at this guy if I passed him in the supermarket... and yet he's truly evil, enriching himself by taking advantage of peoples' suffering and completely happy to continue letting people suffer so he can keep making money. It's enough to make me sick -- which is a bad thing because then I'd end up having to give this pr*ck, or one like him, some money...
Data for the HCA List of Lasts has been compiled from a patient satisfaction survey available at "Hospital Compare" – developed by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Department of Health and Human Services, and other members of the Hospital Quality Alliance to evaluate the quality of care hospitals provide to their adult patients. The survey is comprised of 10 questions that assess how patients felt they were treated during their stay and was given to patients in all 50 states and many other U.S. territories. This is great news for you and other patients, but not for HCA!
As you can see, many of HCA’s facilities ranked last in survey categories when compared with other hospitals in their region or state – and this not an exhaustive list!
South Bay Hospital – Ranked last over-all in the Tampa Bay-area and LAST IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA when patients were asked if they would recommend the hospital to family or friends.
Source: St. Petersburg Times, Hospital Compare survey
Portsmouth Regional Hospital – Ranked at or near the bottom of all 10 survey categories among a group of local New Hampshire hospitals.
Source: Seacoastonline.com
Westside Regional Medical Center – Received the lowest or second-lowest survey results in seven categories among facilities in Broward County, Florida.
Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel
JFK Medical Center – Rated last in seven survey categories among Palm Beach County hospitals and last in all of South Florida when patients were asked if they always received help when they wanted it.
Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel, Hospital Compare survey
Centerpoint Medical Center – Ranked last in 8 of 10 survey categories among Kansas City, Missouri-area hospitals.
Source: Kansas City Business Journal
Lee’s Summit Medical Center – Managed to rank last in the two categories not occupied by Centerpoint Medical Center.
Source: Hospital Compare survey
Bayshore Medical Center and East Houston Regional Medical Center – Only 48% of patients would recommend these hospitals to friends and relatives; that’s good enough to be last among Houston, Texas-area hospitals.
Source: Houston Chronicle
University Hospital & Medical Center - When only 39% of your patients are willing recommend your hospital to family and friends, you end up last in South Florida.
Source: Hospital Compare survey
Valley Regional Medical Center – Ranked last in the ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS when patients were asked if they always received help when they wanted it.
Source: Hospital Compare Survey
Del Sol Medical Center – Received the lowest scores of any HCA hospital in North and West Texas when patients were asked if they would recommend the hospital to friends and relatives or if they would rate the hospital a “9” or “10” on a scale from 0-10.
Source: Hospital Compare Survey
Rankings drawn directly from the Hospital Compare survey exclude hospitals that received fewer than 100 survey responses.
do you have a link? this is good stuff, and wondered where you found this.
http://www.hcawatch.com/
I encourage you to look at this markups comparisons in hospital emergency rooms across the country. Remember - taxpayers are the ones paying for the uninsured already in which the hospitals are kicking us when we are already down. This has to stop and it all starts with the private equity firms that are buying out public companies with borrowed money.
http://www.hcawatch.com/index/qoc/EmergencyMa...
who don't have insurance in their ER's. Then taxpayers must pay the privately owned hospitals for the treatments for uninsured people. Such treatments are up-coded by the corrupt owners/managers of the privately owned hospitals, which are likely owned by or in cahoots with the health insurance industry, and who are now lobbying, protesting, and appearing on TV in ads and in appearances on "news" shows to convince people that competition from the government will be bad for them. Did I get this right? I almost overlooked this: Privately owned equity companies. Isn't that Wall Street?
Repeat it over & over
This completely corrupt bastard Scott doesn't care how many Americans suffer or die so long as he and the other health care pimps continue to make billions off of our pain.
Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombast von Hohenheim (Paracelsus), posited that being a physician was a calling not a profession. So if 1 Corinthians 6:19-20(King James Version), is true:
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
Doesn't that make the insurance companies equatable to the money lenders in the temple?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
... you seem to have the excellent insight of a true framer. IMO
I'm sure Sam Adams... would have drunk to that :)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
and morph into Rick Scott? What a bald faced liar! literally.
IOW, I cut corners and increased the nurse to patient ratio and my patients loved it! What. a. creep.
What is this "read the bill" mantra they keep repeating? which bill? every faction of the congress has a bill they are working on. stupid.
I was thinking the same thing. Read the bill! Which bill are they speaking of? I bet most of the people trying to shut down town hall discussions don't even know there are six different pieces of legislation in which the 6th has not been voted out of committee yet.
Are we really to believe these people read any of the bills then turn around to completely lie about things that aren't even in the bill?
Whichever bill they seem to be speaking about at the time.
MRSA virus infections. They have to be broken here, or they never will be broken. I am warning you: Do NOT read the bill. Dying from unnecessary boredom is not covered under any insurance.
Few know this about Mr Scott but before he sold his soul to the devil for millions upon millions of dollars, he played a small role in Star Wars V as Lando Calrissian's assistant on Bespin.
http://***.starwars.com/databank/character/lo...
Looks pretty primitive compared to today's bluetooth headsets, though doesn't it?
My sister has leukemia. The doctor wanted to do stem cell transplants. The insurance company says no, it's experimental. Medicare won't do anything as far as bone marrow transplants until she is so sick it probably won't do any good.
She's sick, there's a cure, but her insurance company wants her to appeal their decision so they can deny her again. They are in short, going to let her die so they won't have to pay.
I am just a concerned citizen, but I can help suggest some groups or look up potential groups that may assist in your area.
Columbus Ohio. Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy. She's new this year, dem.
and ask for help. Really. No shit. No kidding. The USA does not give a flying fuck about your sister.
The USA government views your sister as a burden to their system of capitalism.
Really. No shit. No lie.
If that doesn't work, go to France. Hell, go to Cuba or Mexico.
YOU WILL RECEIVE NO CARE, HELP OR COMPASSION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Leukemia is not this country's problem. It is your sister's problem.
Tell her to get off her ass and deal with it.
That's what this country is essentially telling you and her.
He can sit there with that shit eating grin on his face, and twist facts to where he, honest to God, believes the shit he is spewing; when in fact he is screwing the public/patients and the country at the very same time.
God, it is frustrating. They think because they can twist their logic into such bazaar scenarios, that they are "playing by the rules", and therefore can be held to no account.
There has to be a special hot corner in hell for these douchebags.
The most telling part of the interview for me was when he said the fine was paid after he was gone. Wow! That said it all right there. In a civilized country he'd be in jail.
be in jail. But if the war criminals Bush and Cheney and company are not even given a look-see about their murders, etc., this Scott weasel will just get richer. He must be one of the new "chosen people." Those who are paving the way for the return of Jesus the businessman.
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This smug, smooth talking guy is a criminal.
I noticed that he told people to "read the bill" more than once. What I want to know is, if these same people complain that the bill is too long that congressmen don't even read it, how can they expect others, especially perhaps the elderly, to read 1000 pages of this bill?
When I hear wing nuts say that Obama's plan is going to "kill old people," I want to know specifically where in the bill it says that! Word for word!
Rush said all the protesters showing up at the town halls have read them. I know it's true cuz I heard Rush say so.
those 1000 pages are just proposals. Only the final bill counts, and when it goes up to the Senate, they will tag on whatever crap they want. Old crooked lawyer trick: Change the agreement at the last minute and swear nothing has changed. Works more than one would expect. Nobody wants to wade through all that drivel. We should try to legislate the use of plain language in these things. (Notice I said "crooked lawyers." Not all of them are crooked.)
... waving in the air, the meeting was conducted with a fairly reasonable amount of decorum. The lead-in, coincidentally as it may be, resembled that of the KOS promoted suggestions of yesterday. I felt as though I could have lip-synced most of it. :P
Following the intro... was the pledge of allegiance to the flag, upon which time a few attendees denoted their zeal for their god, by repeating "under god" two and three times, upon the closing of the pledge.
A topic that seemed to share full support was the tort-reform issue. All I care to say at this time is, be prepared to deal with un-reasonable folks and even though they quite often have no answer... they will-not take No, for an answer! They will not walk away from their beliefs no matter how factual or illogical... Their beliefs will not allow it!
We were in an over-packed room with no AC but the scenic background was nice. (The rm. was in the far left corner here) much better in the Autumn though. [ http://www.woodstockacademy.org/ ]
Congressman, Joe Courtney: [ http://courtney.house.gov/ ]
Amended: Watch how this gentleman ends his grievance....
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zz4utJO2JM ](4:10)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Michael Stipe.....I mean Rick Scott actually believes it is better for patients if they just have one hospital in their city. Can you imagine? WTF.
People this rich are delusional and not living in reality. I wonder how he would feel if his grandson was born with a critical health problem and was repeatedly denied care.
"They do it to!"
Is this not the childish refrain of a 10 year old?
Call out a Republican on evil doing, and they complain that "Democrats do it too".
Call out a CEO about corrupt business practices - Rick Scott says "The other corporations do it too" (Overcharging Medicare, closing hospitals for profit, etc, etc)
Great interview by Sanchez... great to have a few honest, non-right wing media people out there.
However, it would have also been great that Sanchez challenged him on his central lie. What is being proposed in healthcare reform is not a government take-over. Far from it..... the 153 mm Americans with private insurance can keep their private insurance.. where is the government take over?
personally, i do not think people should be scared of a complete govt take over or a single payer system like they have in every other country, but the people of this country are so indoctrinated by anti-govt bashing by the right-wing for 30 yrs that it scares them... there are certain things like healthcare that the government can do better than the private market.....
the douche bag Rick Scott is a prime example of how the private sector can fail.
At least Sachez got to reveal this guy's personal BS. with the limited time he had, that was at least great...
they both know how to seperate people from their money. if a person is not able to think in contrarian terms when listening to this klown with that greedy smirk they will be taken.
I live in Nashville. When one of my kids or I get injured and sick (we have NO insurance) and have to go to the E.R., we avoid any hospital that is a TriStar hospital. They are the ones who are owned by HCA. I made the mistake of going to one after I fell and broke my heel bone and a couple other bones in my foot. Had to drive myself to the hospital, although I didn't tell them that as they would have not given me any pain meds. When I told them I had no insurance, they sent in a nurse who put a plastic splint, similar to a splint you would use on a broken finger, on my foot, that went all they way up to my thigh. They then wrapped it in cotton and ace bandages. They gave me crutches that I could not use because I have nerve damage in my spine and neck. I explained that to them and asked for a cane or something else instead. Too bad. I wasn't good enough to receive one of those boots they usually put on someone with a broken foot, or a cast. They then told me to go to an Orthopedic, knowing I could not afford to. They gave me a script for 5(five) pain pills and sent me on my miserable way.
So Georgie Boy was wrong. You cannot get good treatment from the E.R. if you are uninsured. Especially at an HCA hospital.
I forgot to add that this encounter with an HCA hospital would have cost me $6,000. I did not pay them as I do not have a job.
sue them. Oh, wait. You can't because they are the ones who set the standard for malpractice for your county. Isn't that sweet? Another little not so well known law that the legislators/politicians gave these gangsters.
"SCOTT: Well, I believe -- I clearly believe that government-run health care will be bad for you as a patient. It will be bad for you as a taxpayer. It will be bad for our country. But most importantly, bad for you as a patient."
Isn't government-run health care the plan that the senators and congresspeople and federal employees have? You know, the plan that WORKS for them?! It's government run and seems to work very well for all of them! Why the hell wouldn't it work very well for EVERYONE?!
I've been looking a little at his Conservatives for Patients' rights site this morning. I have sent emails to him before, but now I don't see that they provide a link any more (still looking.)
I came across a link on this site which says "Patriotism is Not Manufactured."
That just tells you who these people are. They're the far right wing of the repug party, people like Sarah Palin, who like to wear flag pins to show their patriotism....and what in the hell does "patriotism" have to do with health care?
Thoroughly disgusting.
U.S. Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA) wasn’t happy with the DOJ’s 2003 settlement with HCA over the company’s fraudulent practices:
“Given that HCA’s track record includes several guilty pleas relating to Medicare cost report fraud, it is especially troubling that its cost reports allegedly were not subjected to heightened scrutiny.”
“The most important question is unanswered,” Grassley said. “That’s whether the taxpayers will get their money back from any fraud perpetrated by HCA. I haven’t seen the statistical evidence to show this settlement will fairly compensate the taxpayers for their losses. Until I see the math, I’ll remain skeptical. I look forward to learning more about the government’s case, although I’m getting tired of asking.”
Read Senator Grassley’s entire press release http://finance.senate.gov/press/Gpress/2003/p...
IT is a smoke screen from Grassley. HCA probably paid their fine directly to Grassly.
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....within 30 seconds. (Can't say it's a news network.
Rick Sanchez gets credit for keeping this discussion civilized.
Guys like Scott will tell a relatively dumb audience that it's important to read the bill knowing full well that the audience is too dumb to read the bill.
Thus, everything this guy Scott says about the bill is OBVIOUSLY true because he done sure knows his letters and read the bill for them.
I think Rick did well but the right wing has been positioning Rick Sanchez as a leftist for a long time so this interview will fall on deaf ears.
I almost wish they would give these chanters at these town hall meetings the podium.
"Please, say what you have to say"
"Obama is a cummernist!"
This guy is the problem! Shutting down hospitals, cutting back on supplies and quality in the hospital. No wonder there is a rise in contagions like MRSA.
And for whom it may concern, a constitutional retort would be highly advisable. Many chants of... where does it say this is allowed in our constitution was recited quite often. Do to the recreational drug use of my youth or the absent of wit at the time... I merely jutted out, "We're a representative democracy" at which point a gentleman sitting beside me stated... "Not no more".(That reply was coming from a (R)ight angle view) :-/
I could not recall the public welfare / prosperity statement I noticed, cited somewhere on these tubes yesterday... hold-on...
...Thank you for waiting... :)
KOS?..."At one point, Rep. Visclosky said he agreed that government has a natural role and responsibility in health care. The Tea Baggers booed him roundly. It was the only serious breach of decorum. One Tea Bagger even challenged the constitutionality of a governmental role in health care. So, at these meetings, we should raise the point that the Preamble to the Constitution includes the phrase "promote the general welfare" as one of its key organizing principles."
I'd suggest you have that at your ready... less you suffer the same retort as I. I'm just some human residing in the constitution state... so shoot me already :-O :P
PS. Credits to the individual here... that linked me 2 KOS.
It might of been this? http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/dem-to... or this? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/4/761608...
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Same craaazy smile...
Scott is a poster child for what is wrong with our current health care system. I'm glad to see Sanchez call him out on it. I hope more in the media will do the same.
whats up with the sadistic eye thing?
You'll notice that every shot of an unsavory right winger will be unflattering:)
I love it.
Health insurance will kill you! for money!
republicanism is a mental illness!
A journalist using facts to question a guest?
Not letting them off the hook?
Not letting them simply spout their propaganda, unhindered?
Between Rick and Rachel, this is a trend I'd like to see more of. REAL journalism, doing what it's supposed to do: hold the powerful accountable.
Can a crook like Rick Scott, (note the Nazi shaved head) steal from sick people to a tune so egregious that he ends up so rich paying billions in fines doesn't hurt his wallet.
And he goes free.
How many people went broke and homeless and died because of him?
I love how these CEO types are always going on about "I just bought the business!"
When you buy the business, you buy its assets AND liabilities.
They act like they can just buy and sell a company like it's some kind of commodity.
ALSO, notice how he says the dirty unions want to "unionize your hospitals!"
Don't doctors have a union? Isn't it called the AMA? Shouldn't nurses also have a union? Sickening.
Hate the way he constantly smiles through the whole thing.
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