Looks like Rand Paul headed for some friendly territory to respond to the GQ article that John told us about here.
Rand Paul's controversial and insane beliefs have now transmitted into his life experience as a new profile that was published by GQ reveals. Smoking weed in college is no big deal but when that's added to kidnapping and forcing a female student to worship an 'Aqua Buddha," you've now entered the twilight zone, not to mention physically abusing a woman.
Paul denied the kidnapping accusation but when it came to the "prank" of forcing the woman to worship the Aqua Buddha, his memory got a bit fuzzy. Think Progress has more where they were kind enough to transcribe part of the interview.
In his first national interview since the story came out, Paul went on Neil Cavuto’s Fox News show this afternoon, where he was questioned about the incident. Paul repeatedly denied “kidnapping” anyone (even though the GQ article never actually uses that word) and said he was “never involved with forcibly drugging people.” However, when Cavuto asked him about making someone bow down to Aqua Buddha, Paul became visibly uncomfortable and avoided answering the question:
CAVUTO: What do you make of this story? [...]
PAUL: No, I never was involved in kidnapping. No, I was never involved with forcibly drugging people. [...]
CAVUTO: So, they’re characterizing it as a kidnapping type of deal. It might have just been just playful fun? Is that what you’re saying? You might have had incidents like this, but it wasn’t deliberate kidnapping?
PAUL: Well, I — I think I would remember if I kidnapped something — kidnapped someone — and I don’t remember, and I absolutely deny kidnapping anyone ever.
CAVUTO: Apparently she said, they blindfolded me and made me bow down to Aqua Buddha. That might have been just a college prank, but you don’t even remember that, right?
PAUL: Well, I’m not really going to try to go back 27 years and remember everything that happened in college.
I was watching John King's show tonight and they had a Republican "strategist" on there and after they ran part of this clip he was literally horrified. He said Paul's campaign manager needs to put some duct tape on his mouth and shut him up. Paul also seemed to be wanting to distance himself from being labeled a Libertarian.
CAVUTO: While I have you here, everyone is a buzz about something you wrote and that concerned the Libertarian label that sticks with you that you say is not quite the case. You don't like to see yourself described as a Libertarian. What did you mean by that?
PAUL: Well the label I use is Constitutional conservative because I believe very strongly that government should be restrained by law and that we've gotten away from that, and that's a part of the mess, it's really a big part of the mess we're in now with this debt is that we don't obey the restraints. The Constitution enumerated certain powers. That's all the Federal government is supposed to be doing. Those not enumerated are left to the states and people.
Oh yeah, that's completely different from being a Libertarian. Thom Hartmann always describes Libertarians as Republicans who want to smoke pot. If Paul's college stories that were published in GQ are true, I'd say he fits the ticket.
UPDATE: Here's the entire transcript via LexisNexis.
CAVUTO: All right.
This is a good opportunity for me to raise this "GQ" story that`s come out on you, Rand. I just want you to respond one way or the other, the charges that a woman you went to school with at the time you were a student at Baylor, you and a buddy abducted her, blindfolded her, and had her then forcibly pay homage to an Aqua Buddha god.
I can go into a lot of the details. "GQ" doesn`t name her by name, but just says that she`s a...
PAUL: Oh, please spare us.
CAVUTO: I just want to be clear here -- that she`s a clinical psychologist today. She`s alive and very well today. They say they have the proof.
What do you make of that? What do you make of this story?
(LAUGHTER)
PAUL: What I say is, please spare us the details.
They also have pictures of me with an alien. They also are now saying that I could have been abducted by aliens at one point in my college career. So, I mean, this stuff is just outrageous and ridiculous. No, I never was involved with kidnapping. No, I was never involved with forcibly drugging people.
I mean, the thing is, is, do we live in an era where people can come forward anonymously and accuse of you things and then, all of a sudden, I`m supposed to spend the rest of the campaign defending myself against anonymous accusers who say I kidnapped them?
CAVUTO: So, you say the story is not true?
PAUL: I think that just borders on ridiculous.
Absolutely untrue.
CAVUTO: Not true.
PAUL: Absolutely...
(CROSSTALK)
CAVUTO: So, what are you going to do to "GQ"? What are you going to do to "GQ"?
PAUL: Well, I think they deserve a lawsuit.
The problem is, is that, in our country, they make it almost impossible for politicians to win anything. Now, in England, it`s easier to win a libel suit. But to produce someone anonymously, and then I`m supposed to somehow respond to a anonymous person from 27 years ago who in the end says, whoever this person was, says we didn`t do any harm to them and it was all in fun, and we didn`t do anything wrong, and yet it`s being characterized as kidnapping, it`s kind of a craziness.
But the thing is, is we used to have journalistic ethics in our country, that you wouldn`t report something from one anonymous source, particularly accusing somebody of something like that. It`s so ridiculous, that I don`t know where to start.
(CROSSTALK)
CAVUTO: I`m sorry, Rand, but I just want to be clear. So, they`re characterizing it as a kidnapping type of a deal. It might have been just playful fun? Is that what you`re saying? You might have had an incident like this, but it wasn`t deliberate kidnapping?
(CROSSTALK)
PAUL: I think -- I think I would remember something and I -- kidnapped someone -- and I don`t remember, and I absolutely deny kidnapping anyone ever.
CAVUTO: So, but it sounds like you`re not suing "GQ" over this.
PAUL: No, no, we have not ruled out the possibility on it, because the thing is, is that we now have 100 different media outlets, some who pretend to be real media outlets, saying I kidnapped someone.
CAVUTO: Yes.
PAUL: I don`t even think that`s the words of the woman. I think that`s the title that they put on the words where she said we didn`t do anything to her. And we don`t even know who she is.
So, it is kind of crazy.
(CROSSTALK)
CAVUTO: Yes. Well, apparently, she said, they blindfolded me and made me bow down to Aqua Buddha.
Now, it might have been just a college prank, but you don`t even remember that, right?
PAUL: Well, I`m not going to really try to go back 27 years and remember everything that happened in college.
CAVUTO: Understood.
PAUL: But the thing is, is that I don`t think that really politicians should be asked to answer anonymous accusers from 27 years ago.
CAVUTO: OK.
PAUL: But I will categorically deny that I ever kidnapped anyone or forced anybody to use drugs.
CAVUTO: All right.
While I have you here, everyone abuzz about something you wrote and that concerns the libertarian label that you sticks with you that say is not quite the case. You don`t like to see yourself described as a libertarian.
What did you mean by that?
PAUL: Well, the label I use is constitutional conservative, because I believe very strongly that government should be restrained by law, and that we have gotten away from that. And that`s a part of the mess, or really a big part of the mess, we`re in now with this debt is that we don`t obey the restraints.
The Constitution enumerated certain powers, and that`s all the federal government is supposed to be doing. Those not enumerated are left to the states and people. And it`s still a big issue. This is not an old issue. This is a new issue.
Obamacare. Right now, you have the attorney general of Virginia and 13 other attorney generals saying, where do you get the constitutional authority for Obamacare? My opponent says, oh, well, the Constitution doesn`t say anywhere in it that you have a right not to have insurance.
He completely misunderstands the Constitution. If the right is not given to the government, it`s left to the states and people.
CAVUTO: All right.
PAUL: So, I think it`s a very present argument and something we need to keep discussing.
CAVUTO: Rand Paul, always good having you on. Thank you very much, sir.
PAUL: Good to be with you, Neil.
"i borrowed her and shared drugs with her, while she was on loan... and then of course she wanted to worship a false god in the form of a bong... and of course this happened so freaking often i can't recall which weed mama they are talkn' about at my hardcore Christian college... hell man, i just admitted i inhaled and loved my bong shouldn't that MAKE me president??? hell man... pass it over dude.
"Don't Galt the bong, duuuude."
"I'm sorry...but...I can't just "give" it to you."
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
In the Air Force, I used a bong
Sinsemellan laced with Afghani hashish followed by 3/4 gram of rock coke and Dark Side of the Moon.
Sometimes it be Jerry Falwell, with the sound off, and Alice Cooper singing Sick Things and I Love the Dead...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ70gnEC-mc
me-oww!
Paul also seemed to be wanting to distance himself from being labeled a Libertarian.
Maybe Rand will say he's a progressive. Then he can shit all over the Administration and they will proclaim their love.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Like I've always said, Libertarians are just Republicans that like to smoke pot and look at porn.
Let me guess
tweety's a fellow worshipper of Aqua Buddha...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
i heard that ayn rand paul is going to sue GQ, and I wonder why rand paul doesn't let the market work this out? why does rand paul feel a need to get the govt involved in the affairs of private business?
human being could EVER forget that he worshiped the Aqua Buddah....Dude!
Well, I guess there's the answer.....bonged out of his mind.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
So the liberals want to smear someone for something they may or may not have done in college?
Perhaps Gibbs is right, some of the vocal left need to be drug tested.
At least Paul - either of them - has never voted to send someone's kids off to a war that wasn't constitutionally declared, nor trumped up on a phony pretext. Seems a lot of liberals and republicans can wear that shame - but oh no... a college prank... now that deserves scorn.
Reminds me of the scene from "And Justice For All" where John Forsythe's character is talking to Al Pacino trying to come up with a plausible excuse for being charged with a violent rape. He said the woman was justifying a bad relationship with an "angry boyfriend". Pacino looked at him and said "She was brutally raped, beaten, and sodomized-that goes a lot further than an angry boyfriend." Good to know your perspective.
to show up and the defend the kidnapping of women. Didn't take long.
what Rand Paul did in college 27 years ago, but when you hear him speak, its hard not to come to the conclusion that he's still crazy after all these years, and not in a good way.
I never did drugs and kidnapped some random girl to worship a water sprite...speak for yourself.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Oh.. I got the impression that the Aqua Buddha was a bong in the shape of Buddha...
I may have bowed down to a few of those in college. :-)
you must have been asleep during the Clinton Administration. Although he WAS guilty of a little extracurricular activity in the Oval office, they accused him of dealing drugs and murder, along with rape and siring a baby out of wedlock with a black woman.....all of which were never proven.
Oh, yeah, they went after him for draft dodging and "not inhaling" in college, when it was SOP for George Bush, who disappeared for 8 months when he was an officer in the Champagne Unit of the Texas Air National Guard....and whose cocaine use in college was an open secret.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
nothing will come of this. If Paul was a Democrat, the right-wing would be clamoring for his head. But as someone else said before me, IOKIYAR. Or, in this case, republican light, aka libertarian. Or worse, tea-bagger.
Paul is an idiot.
Ohh..if only it was a Democrat and the white girl was missing.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Missing what?
Don't tell me the Democrats are into stumpies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgsUUFYLSoQ
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
not true.
where was the right wing media when it was revealed that John Kerry is a Skull & Bones member alongside his frat brother Bush Jr?
Silence. Omerta.
Try to stay on topic.
Unless your positing that Rand Paul kidnapped a woman but didn't rape her?
really, two wars, almost 10% unemployment, states having to cut teachers, police and firemen, issues of race and immigration raging, and this is an issue? GQ?
When the right was all over Obama for admitting pot and coke use, the left was just "ah, c'mon - it was a long time ago and college - who didn't party?"
This actually allows the right to avoid talking about their actual policies - answering questions about Rand Paul's college days. Not they would, anyway, but crap like this just feeds them even more.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
have you been listening to Newt and his ambitions? Considering HIS background, I wouldn't even attempt to go there if I were him.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
He looks goofy and nutty.
goofy and nutty
No. Those are his drinking buddies.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
..
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
like the box turtle Cornyn claims wants to get married.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Once anybody goes on Fux Noise propaganda and lies they have absolutely NO CREDIBILITY anymore.
Rand Paul tells Fox News we used to have journalistic ethics and not report from one anonymous source. Easy Rand Paul you on thin ice sayin that to Fox.
It's hard to recall what you did in college when you spent the years stoned out of your mind.
reading Ayn Rand.
This chaps my ass. I've seen clips of this all morning all over the "librul" media. If Rand Paul would like to deny some bullshit that's been said about him, he should have to deny it to ALL media, not just the propagandists at Faux. MSNBC shouldn't show a clip of him denying it on FAUX, they should force him to show up on a real network. That's how these wingnuts are getting away with not talking to anyone but "friendly" media. It both sucks and blows and needs to stop.
agree to go on someplace besides Faux Noise.
Rachel Maddow has literally BEGGED for Liz Cheney & Sharron Angle to come on her show, and I haven't seen them on there yet.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
...I'll put my liberal creds up against anyone here, but if it's true that GQ ran an article on the basis of ONE, ANONYMOUS complaint about college pranks that led to no harm, then this is rediculous. I mean come on, this is the kind of crap Clinton dealt with for years because the right absolutely refused to vet sources during its 8-year witch hunt. No MSM should have reported on this, and GQ should be ashamed of itself for its pathetic attempt to be relevant.
Bash me if you want, but sooner or later our media has to own up to the fact that they are little more than gossip mongerers if they're willing to run such unsubstantiated stories. At least call the other guy who was supposedly involved and see what he has to say.
Beware of anyone promising a future full of yesterdays.
Matt Drudge made himself into a cottage industry reporting this way.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Faux Noise network!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
If events went down as claimed, I'm sure the girl that was kidnapped would disagree with you that no harm was done. Hell, I'd say many women who could sympathize with how scary the experience could've been would disagree too.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
read the GQ article youself for the woman's opinion before you say you are sure what she would say. She said exactly that no harm was done.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Rand Paul's Kooky College Days
She said on one hand, they never hurt me and in her opinion, they did nothing wrong (but kidnapping is a crime), but as a clinical psychologist, she states in the same breath that it was sadistic, and that they were messing with her mind.
Kind of a mixed message, don't you think?
me-oww!
Are we sure she said Aqua Buddha and not Aqua Velva? Not that it would make any difference, just wondering.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
My mother used to worship Aqua Net Hair Spray. :)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
and I'm sort of ashamed to say, so did I as a teenager...and then I saw the light--pump spray (save the Ozone!)
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
the University of Texas who was named Aquanetta.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
I mean, hell, he can't even remember that he DIDN'T graduate from Baylor, so why should he remember hazing people after all these years?
Actually like everything else, he got the question ass-backwards,
He thought they were asking him about napping when he was a kid...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
You can't seperate the Bat-Shit from the Crazy
That's funny!
Beware of anyone promising a future full of yesterdays.
Michelle Bachmann?
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
I played with "fun stuff" over 27 years ago and I can promise you if I had done what he is accused of I would remember it. I remember doing some silly stuff over 27 years ago but none as bizarre as this.
If his memory is that bad does he really deserve an elected office?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
was an accurate recollection?
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
But with all of Clinton's activities, the women went along voluntarily.
I don't know since I wasn't there. Hell maybe he faked inhaling it so he could look cool to the other students. Did any of the students there with him ever come out and say he inhaled?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
was so truthful, you're right, he probably didn't inhale.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
the point eh? None of Bill's dalliances involved kidnapping-they all went willingly.
where Paul was charged with kidnapping? A few women accused Clinton or rape, but they were just that, accusations, years after the supposed event occurred. So, if Paul is "guilty" of kidnapping, so then Clinton must be guilty of rape.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
I never said he was GUILTY of kidnapping. These allegations need to be investigated with the same enthusiasm as those against Clinton. The sexual abuse allegations against Clinton were THOROUGHLY investigated, in case you forgot about the impeachment circus. Clinton's accusers were found to be bimbos, gold diggers, and paid liars. Maybe Randy-Rand can have the allegations against him investigated by that paragon of morality, discipline, and family values, Newt Gingrich. I mean, he's got the experience: look how he made Clinton look good by comparison.
stay on topic.
"I think I would remember if I kidnapped something - kidnapped someone - ".
Keep on digging, folks! There's more to this story.
"Dammit! I said, 'Right?' I'm giving you the answer here, Randy! Shut the fuck up and agree with me. You don't remember that, right? Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge."
That depends on what your definition of drugging someone is, doesn't it? If smoking pot, forcibly or not, doesn't meet Dr. Rand's definition of 'drugging someone,' then, wow, he didn't drug someone. Just like George W. Bush skated on, "The SEC says there is no case."
And, really, what's with the flaky memory? The only reason you wouldn't remember such an incident is that it's one among a whole damned lot of similar incidents. "I don't remember what I had for breakfast on July 18, 1983."
Come on, Rand. Let's hear an explicit, definitive denial.
Can anyone say Polygraph?
I think Randroid should be tested.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
That was only after the parrot was ratted out by the stool pigeon.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I mean, Look at this guy. He's got "Pervert" written all over him.
Always something ferakish, always something crmiinal with these Christian Republicans. Always.
Hilarious choice of words. "A kidnapping type of deal"?
Good thing it wasn't a molesting or murder type of deal.
Very reassuring.
and this just doesn't sound like something two baked dudes would do. they would talk about it, they would "plan" it, they would definitely laugh about it, but actually do it? it flies in the face of all conventional pot wisdom.
It's disgusting the way these Fox News pigs so brazenly treat stories differently, depending on political affiliation. When a liberal does something wrong, I've no problem recognizing it as such. These scum just embrace the hypocrisy.
Yet another smarmy lookin' evil bastard of priviledge, complete with the shrubya smirk...
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Has it occurred to you guys that this may just have been horsing around while stoned, and NOT some serious weird kidnapping thing?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
How's this: 'I was just stoned and having a goodtime with my buds so wee got to talking and agreed this girl was hot!
So we went over to her house and broke in and blindfolded her ..."
Now tell your girl friend that shit.
It's funny to watch a liberatarian argue that politicians should have more power to sue magazines for writing about them.
Louisville Lawyer
This woman was a classmate of his, was on the Baylor swim team with him, and is now a clinical psychologist. Are you telling me he doesn't know who she is... or hasn't found out who she is? And now he's pretending he doesn't know who she is. What a dolt.
And why don't they ask the question all Democrats have to answer: Did you use illegal drugs in college?
Louisville Lawyer
...and abducted (being nice here and not saying "kidnapped") a woman while I was in college, regardless of whether I made her do drugs or bow down to an Aqua Buddha (whatever the f#$% that is), I definitely would have remembered it... and in my case it was much longer ago than 27 years.
I guess college was pretty boring for me.
And if I were a patient of his, I would damned sure expect him to remember back to what he did in school.
You know, I liked it a lot better when they were trolling public restrooms for creepy anonymous sex. At least, that was consensual.
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